STG/Touhou

[Anonymous No.]

Discuss about shooting and dodging bullets.

Let's take it easy with this thread.
Start with the pattern that gives you a hard time recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>Start with the pattern that gives you a hard time recently.

None in Touhou, that's for sure.

Superior CAVE shooters, on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.]

I'm currently learning to master TH14. Stage 1 and 2 are done, but stage 3 boss - especially the first spellcard - seems too random to dodge.

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>>11475108
Touhou destroys me far harder than any CAVE game I've played. I don't usually miss/bomb+reset until 1-5 or 1-6 in DDP, and I can usually chain up until 1-4 before I choke and have to stop chaining. In Touhou, I die or bomb on Stage 4 or 5 just about every single run and just reset instantly.

I'm nowhere near a Lunatic 1cc, whereas I can actually see myself looping DDP, but only if I were to stop dying like such a dumb piece of shit in 1-5 and 1-6. One death near the end of 1-6 is acceptable for me, but anything before that is a garbage run, reset that shit, we're going back to 1-1.

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This is stupid, Okuu exploded, everything went slow-mo, why the fuck bullet still hit me afterwards? I only stopped dodging because I though it's finally over.
I guess I can still count this as 1cc. Too bad I recently downloaded score.dat with opened extra stage, I wanted to see how much time I've spent on this game. I think it's around ~15 hours of in-game playtime and around 4 months of real time.

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>>11475506
Bullet clearing is weird. It starts at the boss and moves outward. I've never died in slow-mo though.

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>>11475391
Touhou is all memoshit so unless you watch replays you're gonna suck balls at it.

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>>11475938
Yeah, that's why nobody has ever 1cc'd any of the games on Lunatic on their first attempt.

Oh wait.

[Anonymous No.]

Playing with an arcade stick is pretty fun.

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>>11476301
Too awkward to use and not precise enough.

[Anonymous No.]

One of the songs from the Imperishable Night house set fits perfectly with these lyrics;

JUST ONE DREAM COMMUNICATION
Nandokizutsuite mo
Egaku yume waeien ni
Iro asenaikokoro ni SO BRIGHT!!
Hashiri tsukareta yoru nimadobe ni motarete
Furisosogu hoshizora wosotto mitsumeteta...
Chinmoku ga itai hodofutari wo tsuranuku
Tadoritsuke nu ashita wooki sari ni shite...
Soredemo tashika na kodou ga kikoeru
Iki nuku chikara woataete kureru...
#JUST ONE DREAM COMMUNICATION
Nani mo akiramenai
Ichizu na hodoseishun wa
Tsuyokuhikari kagayaku...
JUST ONE DREAM COMMUNICATION
Nandokizutsuite mo
Egaku yume waeien ni
Iro asenaikokoro niSO BRIGHT!!
Asa ga kuru made zuttoyorisowatte ita ne
Tsunai da te no muku moriima mo shinjiteru...
Ano koro to kawaranaiyasashisa ga areba
Kitto mada tatakaerumatahabatakeru...
Hageshii jounetsukedakai manazashi
Dare ni mo kesenairisou wo daite...
JUST ONE LOVE COMMUNICATION
Ai ni mayo wa nai de
Wakariaerushunkan wo
Mamoritai yokono mama...
JUST ONE LOVE COMMUNICATION
Kaze ni fukare nagara
Kakenuke youazayaka ni
Haruka kanatamezashite SO BRIGHT!!
JUST ONE DREAM!!
JUST ONE DREAM COMMUNICATION
Nani mo akiramenai
Ichizu na hodoseishun wa
Tsuyokuhikari kagayaku...
JUST ONE DREAM COMMUNICATION
Nandokizutsuite mo
Egaku yume waeien ni
Iro asenaikokoro ni SO BRIGHT!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11476377
It seems like a more authentic experience though.

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>>11476380
I don't think Touhou was ever meant to be played on an arcade system.

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>>11476301
Using an Xbox styled gamepad feels nice too, but its much harder to do the precise movements that you need for some bosses

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>>11476301
did you build one from scratch or bought one of those hori sticks?

i've tried the cheap sf4 hori stick when playing mushihimesama on the 360, but it didn't feel precise.

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>>11476432
Fight sticks are pretty bad for shmups as the engage/throw distances are pretty long in most stock configs. Most people stick with an LS-32-1 for shmupping as it's much more suited for precise movements.

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=30602
I beat my phantasm score again.

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>>11475955
I dislike those who can 1cc Lunatic on their first attempt without prior shmup experience. It makes me feel like all the work I've put in was for nothing, the months spent restarting the same stage until I was sick of it, the replay watching, the upsets both from the game and from myself.

It feels like shit. The amount of times I've had to grind every stage, only to see somebody blow through it like it's nothing on their first try. It's disgusting, not because of how good they are, but because of how bad I am compared to them after playing for so long.

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>>11476589

I also dislike liars

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>>11476589
No one has ever 1cc'd a Touhou game on Lunatic on their first ever attempt with absolutely zero shmup experience before.

Stop measuring yourself up to non-existent beings.

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>>11475506
An intentional mechanic. Her gravitational pull becomes another step stronger during the death animation, requiring the player to most likely unfocus for a bit to survive.

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>>11475103
Does anybody have that picture that shows how to pass Rin's spell cards?
She's been giving me a lot of trouble recently.

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>>11476652

[Anonymous No.]

Since apparently arcade stick is out, gamepad or keyboard? Or hell, even touchscreen

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>>11476713
Keyboard. Ultimate precision.

[Anonymous No.]

I started playing 2hu the other day with Perfect Cherry Blossom (just picked at random) and it's pretty fun.

I mean, I usually use all my continues and get my ass kicked at 60% through the game on normal. How do I git gud?

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>>11476728
You just keep playing and don't rage restart. (unless you screw up right at the beginning of the game)
Also watch a few videos if a certain boss is giving you real trouble. You can get an idea of what you should be doing that way.

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>>11476728
Honestly the only way to improve are:
play more
watch other people play

[Anonymous No.]

>>11476676
Thanks.

>>11476713
I prefer keyboard, but that depends on if you have a good one.

>>11476728
Play more, maybe try starting with an easier game. IN may be a good one.

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>>11476713
Can you have more than two speeds and 8 directions if you aren't using a keyboard?

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>>11476713
keyboard seems the most natural.

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>>11476728
play more, and remember to take breaks!
it isn't fun when you rage, it becomes more of a chore.

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>>11476778
No.

Note: there are three speeds. Moving diagonally means you are moving more slowly in each axis than you would moving purely vertically or horizontally.

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>>11476728
Keep playing again, stage practice to get better at troublespots, watch others (replays etc.) and ask questions if you need help with a particular attack or anything.

Good luck!

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>>11476791
Yes, but unless you're hugging a wall, the module of the speed is the same.

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>>11476791
Hmm, actually 4 speeds?
Non-focus, Focus, Non-focus diagonal, Focus diagonal?

The Focus-Diagonal is pretty useful when dodging very tight clusters of bullets whilst hugging the bottom of the screen (just keep the down button held whilst you dodge left and right and your movements will be very slight)

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>>11476791
So your component-wise velocities might be a little less, but your speed is still the same?

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>>11476818
Yes.

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>>11476728
Learn what does and does not kill you. Figuring out the hitboxes of the bullets and mechanics of attack patterns will let you dodge a lot more confidently.

Try not to focus on your hitbox all the time. Depending on bullet speed, you'll be leading leading the bullets and dodging enough to miss them. Faster the bullets, further out you'll be looking.

And play the hell out of the games, but take breaks when you're tired or frustrated at something.

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>>11476595
>>11476604
I might have exaggerated a little bit, but there are people out there that have 1cced Lunatic only a month or two after playing. I spent two or so months with Normal alone because of all my restarts, and I've probably taken nearly a year and a half for my first Hard 1cc. I've only started playing Lunatic earlier this year. On a daily basis, I'd say I play around three or so hours a day. I've only come close to getting a 1cc of EoSD Lunatic, which is supposedly one of the easier games to clear.

I'm just frustrated because I'm still no good at STGs even after playing them so much.

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>>11476918

>I've probably taken nearly a year and a half for my first Hard 1cc.

That's a totally different extreme.
Those people aren't prodigies, you just suck.

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>>11476918
>there are people out there that have 1cced Lunatic only a month or two after playing
Yes, people who have played other STGs.

I had trouble clearing hard when I stopped playing Touhou. When I came back I could clear it with ease. What did I do in the interim? I kept playing STGs.

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>>11476949
I honestly believe I have a learning disability for being unable to nmnb the first loop of DDP. It's all okay up until 1-5 and then I end up dying or panicking and bombing, it makes me really mad with myself for being so stupid.

>>11476952
I play other STGs way more than I do Touhou, but I still suck at Touhou. I mostly play CAVE shooters, but I'm wanting to start with Psikyo soon. Not gonna lie, I have way more fun playing arcade STGs.

The furthest I've made it was ST5 in EoSD Lunatic, which unsurpisingly enough, ended on 2/1 because I died to something stupid. Most of my runs end before I even run out of lives because my deaths are caused by my own stupidity, which frustrates me further. Not using a bomb and then instantly mashing alt-q is probably what ends most of my runs.

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>>11476713
All of the superplayers use gamepads.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do people like bullet hell games? I mean, seriously, they look stressful as fuck. I want to try and play them in a smartphone, which games can i get for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11477264
Nothing good.

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>>11477264
because it looks cool when you're dodging and grazing things.

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>>11477264
I got "danmaku death" recently. it's okay.

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>>11477141
You used to play IN Hard on Marisa solo only and never cleared back in 2011, right?

Oh how have I missed you, learning disability-kun.

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>>11477818
No, learning disability-kun actually made something of himself. He's one of the top IN players in the West now. He runs circles around Lunatic after dropping Marisa solo for superior shot types. His scoring is flawless, he hardly makes any mistakes, and he can control Youmu solo very well now.

I'm not sure where he was able to get all of that skill from. I find it hard to believe that he was bad in the first place, so it was probably all just sandbagging and joking to help bad players on /jp/ feel better about themselves.

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>>11475955
Those people either
A) studied what the best routes would be from telling how the bullets worked (from watching their own replay and watching the bullets, and then remembering what happened)
or B) got lucky on their first attempt of Looney 1CC, which is easier than it sounds since most Touhouges are babby's first STG.

Memoshit is still memoshit even if it's easy to read. That's why so many high-scoring replays are so same-y.

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>>11476604
I have. Stop calling me a nonexistent being.

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>>11478124
>Memoshit is still memoshit even if it's easy to read. That's why so many high-scoring replays are so same-y.
All STGs are memo when it comes to scoring, so calling Touhou memoshit based on that isn't exactly saying much.

[Anonymous No.]

One day I will get as good as you guys.

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>>11478099
Absolutely none of this is true.

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>>11478175
Post 'em.

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>>11478175
You don't exist!

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I direct download this Touhou shit?

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>>11480402
Stop being lazy and at least try to google search, there're a dozen links on the first page when you search "Download Touhou".

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>>11480402
What's an direct download? Do indirect downloads exists?

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>>11480425

Work blocks torrents, which are not direct.

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>>11480244
http://replays.gensokyo.org/replays/th08/th8_udha14.rpy

Do you know Youmu's 10 desires?

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>>11481782
How are you planning to prove that this is your first time ever playing a shmup?

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Wow, Touhou is still harder than Batrider and DDP. It could just be that I play those two games a fuckton more, but I find myself bombing and dying a lot more in any Touhou than I do in either of those games.

I can't even think about scoring in Touhou

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>>11481782
I'm confused by a lot of the decisions you made during that run; however, I am stunned by your performance on Hourai Elixir.

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>>11484657
>Touhou is still harder than Batrider
It's not even the same genre, what's the point in comparing them?

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>>11485076
what

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http://replays.gensokyo.org/replays/th11/th11_udAs53.rpy

I beat SA extra for the first time. I almost restarted when I died to Koishi's first spell, but I am glad I decided to play on. I made a few more mistakes but all of them were minor except for a foolish death on Philosophy of a Hated Person. The victory doesn't feel as satisfying as I thought it would be but that is probably due to me bomb-spamming through Subterranean Rose. I had never faced the later stages of it and I wanted to win.

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>>11485971
Congratulations

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>>11481782
>>11483019
>>11484823
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28139

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>>11485971
Congratulations anon-kun!! I hope I will be able to beat Koishi someday too!

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>>11486411
I suspected as much during the first few stages but had forgotten it by the end. My memory is very bad.

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>>11484657
>It could just be that I play those two games a fuckton more
Shmups are 98% memorization, so here's your answer.

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>>11485076
They are completely different games, I know. I've heard tell of people getting good at Touhou by playing completely different games anyway, like those who played Gradius as kids should be able to demolish Touhou on Lunatic, so I hear.

>>11487121
Yeah, but what about the so called fundamentals? The skill is supposed to transfer over to other games, but I'm still dying like to easy patterns in a so called easy game.

I'm having bad flashbacks from my DOJBL days now, the hours spent grinding those super easy cheese graters every single day until I figured them out. I can still see them falling when I close my eyes. The three sided bastards.

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>>11486368
>>11486427
Thanks! I hope to soon have a much better run where I don't make disgusting mistakes like dying on Ancestor Standing Beside your Bed and Youkai Polygraph. Perhaps luck will smile on me and I'll capture Rorschach in Danmaku.
Does anyone else feel like Rekindled "Embers of Love" was meant to be a survival card?

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>>11488374
Considering SA Extra already has two survival cards, I really doubt ZUN was planning on making a third one.

Also, the mechanic of the card is rather simple, and while it does get slightly dense later on, so do most of attacks in Touhou. It's just your regular spell card, as far as I'm concerned.

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>>11488374
Making sure every aimed wave is targetted at a certain location (under the boss, for example) creates a overall predictable pattern. Won't get too dense either assuming you maintain full power.

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>>11488374
Not really. Maybe it'll seem like it if you do wacky movements all over the screen and aim them in weird spots.

>>11489131
It won't ever get too dense because the heart bullets disappear after a while.

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>>11490188
Oh right, my bad.

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>>11485971
>>11490188
Now that I've watched this, yes, you move way too much. Not only on Embers, but on things like Paranoia and Genetics too. You spend way too long on Genetics because you aren't hitting Koishi enough.

[Anonymous No.]

I played I think a little bit of TH9 a long time ago, but now I want to get into it properly.

Which one should I be playing and since I have an arcade stick, should I be playing with that or would a keyboard/xbox 360 controller work better?

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>>11490946
Whatever feels the most comfortable in terms of things like smoothness, turning around quickly, small tapping, general control feel. 360 controller isn't usually recommended because most people don't like it, but there are many good players who use one whether by choice or force.

In my opinion, Perfect Cherry Blossom has a very strong aesthetic and appeals to newcomers for various reasons, so I would recommend it to start. PCB does commonly have latency issues though (the earlier ones all do), so I would recommend getting the Vsync patch for the game(s) as well.

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>>11490990
Thanks, dude.

Funnily enough I have the PCB soundtrack and listen to it often while playing games. Touhou music is amazing

[Anonymous No.]

I just beat Suwako with Marisa B(ugged).

AREN'T I GREAT?

[Anonymous No.]

I just beat Suwako with Marisa B(roken).

AREN'T I GREAT?

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>>11488996
>>11489131
>>11490188
>>11490879
Sorry, I meant to say Genetics of the Subconscious. Embers of Love is easy; I only moved around so much that time because I was still flustered from my death on Ancestors Standing Beside Your Bed.

[Anonymous No.]

I just grinded the same stage for 11 hours straight, starting at 10PM last night, ending at 8AM today.

It doesn't feel like I'm improving much at all anymore, but that might just be because I've went from pad to stick to 360 pad to keyboard to pad, back to keyboard, and now going back to an okay pad again.

[Anonymous No.]

feelio u try 2 poc and run into a pattern cuz you hajvent played the game enough to know when its safe and not fuck u zun

[Anonymous No.]

All shot types cleared within two weeks, ending with no less than 3/3 in each run. Now I'll stop playing EoSD and UFO for a bit and check out scoring in DDC now that I've gotten that out of the way.

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>>11491011
You are great! MarisaB is a fun shot type... If you use the vsync patch fix.

All right so, I have a choice between Saturn pad, Dualshock 2, or a very cheaply made Chinese stick. I plan on modding the stick within the next few months, but for now, it's stuck with stock parts.

Which would be the best to use?

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>>11494538
Keyboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11494538
Saturn Pad no doubt.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone like eXceed?

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>>11494548
I would use keyboard, but I can't find a comfortable setup. I don't like to use my right hand to control movement in games, but I did like it for MAME when I tried using wasd for movement instead. Making super tiny taps is really easy to do on keyboard, so I can see how superior and precise it is compared to pad in Touhou.

>>11495690
I'll probably go with this until I can get some replacement parts.

[Anonymous No.]

Keyboards without numpad are the best. Very comfortable, great looking and precise. Also saves desk space. I just did my second 1cc of Blue Wish Resurrection Plus. Any other fans of the game?

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>>11498494
But what if you want to enter in a bunch of numbers quickly?

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>>11498524
1234567890
Just did it without numpad.

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>>11498494
Which difficulty and settings?

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>>11498585
Original difficulty with auto guard. To be honest auto guard really makes it easier. It doesn't feel that challenging but I'm still happy about my 1cc. Once I clear original with all ships I'll go for hell without auto guard.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm grinding for an NB run, but I keep missing on the same stupid shit over and over again. It's only Hard mode and I really suck this badly. Dying to the same pattern three times in a row, dying to easy patterns, dying trying to cross through gaps in bullets. It's been like this for a month now, I'm seeing no improvement in my play at all.

My improvement overall has been quite shitty, I think I've been at the same level for nearly a year now. I'm not having fun anymore.

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>>11498762
Just quit then. Quitting makes everything better, I've always found.

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>>11498762
I know how you feel. Try playing and practicing on other STGs, maybe even clearing a few.

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>>11498494
>>11498559
>>11498524

It figures that you /jp/ers wouldn't like numpads as they are very useful for fast data entry with one hand.

You know something you might have to do in a JOB?

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>>11498765
One of the better players in the West told me that quitting is a good idea and all the best players did it. I don't want to quit though.

>>11498769
Yeah, I should stop playing for a week and just focus on stuff in MAME. I'll probably fire up a few games and try to get 1ccs instead of reading up on it right away. Dying on Stage 3's and 4's won't be nearly as heart breaking because I won't know how easy they are until I try to play more seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

3 miss LNB in SA.

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>>11498837
>One of the better players in the West told me that quitting is a good idea and all the best players did it. I don't want to quit though.
Who?

If you don't want to quit, then don't.

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>>11500699
Pretty good, are you going for the perfect SA? I want to start doing LNB, but I don't even know where to start. The best I can do is a cheesy shit clear of EoSD Lunatic in which I bomb everything hard and call it scoring so I don't get laughed at by better players.

>>11500759
I don't want to namedrop, but to give a hint, he doesn't play Touhou and plays mostly cave stuff instead.

I'm not going to quit. It's just irritating you're trying for months to accomplish something, studying replays, grinding stages, and generally making no progress. Out of nowhere, somebody just picks up the game you're playing and accomplishes way more than you in a fraction of the time, but without all of the grinding and studying of the game.

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>>11498837
They're obviously not the best if they quit. Don't give up. I believe in you.

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>>11501053
The old players quit one by one, but new ones start every day. The best players are constantly changing, Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there some place where I can find PC-98 replays?
I'm trying to do SoEW with one initial life and no initial bombs, but I keep losing.

[Anonymous No.]

So, now after about two weeks of semi-intensive training (paying about 1 or 2 hours daily), I've managed to clear 4 touhou games 1cc on normal. UFO, TD, IN and MoF, in that order.
Couple of months ago I could not have even dreamt of something like this, so I guess hard work really pays off in the end

Anyway, what game should I try clearing next?

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>>11501806
EoSD or PCB.

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>>11476431
I just switched to this is anyone having trouble play SA with it. SA won't recognize my Xbox style pad but will recognize me other controller. Only happens with SA

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>>11501051
No. Extremely lucky run. There was only one legitimate death to Peta Flare, which I have an abysmal capture rate on. Same with Cat Walk, which I luckily managed to capture on that run.
>>11501806
Congratulations! If you can handle the newer games and their mechanics, all the older games should be no problem.

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>>11502166
This is a known problem. I can't recall any particular solution.

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>>11502278
I wouldn't call it a lucky run, you're obviously good enough to consistently LNB the game without much effort, just gotta work on a few parts and you'll be set for the LNMNB run.

>>11501806
Good job, you're making progress a lot faster than I ever had. You'll probably be seeing Lunatic in a few weeks if you keep it up.

>>11502166
I've never had a problem with the 360 pad in SA, but I dropped that pad within a week of using it and forced myself to play keyboard until my new pad arrived. You could probably just use xpadder if you really wanted to use it.

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>>11502166
Try this:
Open Control Panel, search for "game controllers" and click on Set up USB game controllers in the results.
Click on Advanced and set the Preferred device to the one you wish to use.
I don't know if this will work for everyone, but at least I was able to use my controller with SA again when it bugged out.

[Anonymous No.]

where can I dl any touhou game? never tried

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>>11504821
Type in "Moriya Shrine Download Touhou" on google, it should be the first result. The website has all the Touhou games, including the decimal games, and their english patches to download for free.

Please at least google before asking.

[Anonymous No.]

Five deaths in a row to HNB Kagerou. My incompetence amazes even myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11505380
Keep on practicing. The worst thing's getting hit by a first fucking enemy bullet that appears on the screen, and I'm ashamed to admit how many times did that happen to me in various STGs.

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>>11487886
>like those who played Gradius as kids should be able to demolish Touhou on Lunatic, so I hear.

Where'd you hear that? I played the shit out of Gradius and I'm still pretty bad at Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you will never clear a 1cc normal

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>>11505797
I want Reimu to beat me.

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>>11491011

Okay so I managed to clear an extra stage other than MoF's extra stage a few days ago. I had originally thought that I would clear EoSD's extra first, but apparently not(farthest I've gotten was 5 seconds away from Q.E.D.).

...I'm surprised that I managed to beat Mokou despite my horrible stage run which had caused me to start dueling Mokou with only 4 lives and no bombs.

What should I try and clear next? I've 1CC'd EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, SA, UFO, TD, and DDC on normal and I've also 1CC'd EoSD on hard.
...by the way am i at least average yet /jp/?

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>>11505905
You're better than me for sure. Try 1CC on Hard mode with games you played and memorized more than others.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm >>11501521, still can't find such a place.
Replays on youtube are scarce and I can't find what I'm looking for in those. I'd appreciate any help.

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>>11505905
You're better than probably 95% of the fanbase. Congratulations!

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>>11476676
well, fuck you too.
I thought i could play that shit.
Also, do you guys know why touhou isn't popular on /b/ yet?

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished normal for the first time in EOSD and PCB. With continues, so it's more of a half achievement.
My goal is no continues, of course.

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>>11506179
I mea /v/

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>>11506179
>>11506209
there's loads of /jp/-/v/ crossboarders. it's just newfags and westaboos on /v/ who dislike 2hu.

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>>11506202
>TH06/07 with continues
Is this your first few days with the series, or are you one of those strugglers?

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>>11506209
nice freudian slip. /v/ is so infested with the cancer that came to 4chan through /b/ that they may as well be interchangeable.
My favorite is when they get all anal about reddit. I'd into various subreddits any day over /b/.

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>>11505905
Not bad at all. You did well enough.
I was inspired to take on a run myself and I cleared it too. Still struggling on some spells and botched this run a bit, though I'm quite happy with the way I handled Hourai Doll and had a few lucky dodges on Immortal "Fire Bird -Flying Phoenix-".

[Anonymous No.]

>>11505905
>>11506299
Congratulations, Anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11506299
Why would you need lucky dodges on Flying Phoenix?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11506314
Hopefully I can improve by another 300-400mil if I survive everything.

>>11506332
The way I handle it is probably shit. Sometimes I end up in the middle of a bunch of bullets and have to move out quickly. Or I end up getting cramped at the wall and almost being hit by a phoenix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11506348
Probably. Just watch a few replays of people who know what they're doing. It's just a 'memorize and plan' spellcard.

[Anonymous No.]

If I was to pick one game and grind it for a long period of time, which one would improve my general skills the most?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11506910
Imperishable Night, due to various types of danmaku patterns and Spell Practice.

Or the Shoot The Bullet/Double Spoiler because it forces you to improvise and dodge while your camera charges.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally beat Nue.

Only Flandre and Marisa left and I'll have beaten every Extra stage boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11506910
PoFV/PoDD. If you only play one game you'll just become used to all of the patterns and so your overall skill doesn't really improve all that much, unless the patterns are sufficiently random so that your memorization doesn't help you much. PoFV is mostly random dodging and quick reactions to get you out of precarious scenarios and is more focused on surviving than it is destroying things. I don't particularly like it very much, but that would be my answer. StB/DS, UFO and EoSD would be next.

I would advise against IN, as its patterns are slow and the large deathbomb time spoils you. Spell Practice will help you learn only IN's patterns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507008
Flandre is pretty easy for an Extra boss. Harder than Nue for sure, but if you've beaten say Mokou and Koishi then Flandre shouldn't take long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507024
Mokou is much easier than any of those.

I would rank them in order of hardest to easiest:

Marisa > Koishi > Nue > Mamizou > Raiko > Flandre > Suwako > Mokou > Yukari > Ran

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507052
Well clearly there's going to be some sort of personal subjective ranking, I don't find Mokou very hard either, but the underlying point was that if all they have left is Flandre and Marisa, Flandre shouldn't take very long to beat.

[Anonymous No.]

I always thought Flandre was pretty hard. Nue was the easiest.

[Anonymous No.]

First clear:
Marisa > Koishi > Nue > Mamizou > Flandre > Mokou > Suwako > Yukari > Raiko > Ran

NMNB: (All spells must be captured in case of Mokou)
Marisa > Mokou > Raiko > Yukari > Suwako = Mamizou > Ran > Flandre = Nue > Koishi

Scoring:
Mokou with a youkai/Youmu/Team > Ran = Yukari > Marisa > Mamizou > Koishi > Flandre > Suwako > Nue > Raiko > Mokou with a human.

These are, obviously, my opinions. Yours may differ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11506110
Really? That's cool!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507052
I think Mokou is only easy because IN has Spell Practice, and because her stage is easy. If you couldn't play her spells in practice to figure out the tricks, I think she would be near the top in terms of difficulty.
For example, Nue is easier than most of the Extra bosses but her stage is so difficult I never reach her with enough resources.

Obviously this is just personal preference. For example, Koishi is one of the easier ones for me since I love that extra and have played it to death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11506260
First week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507022
Not him, but I only have Normal and Hard unlocked for EoSD and UFO. Should I still bother playing them? I assume that you're speaking for Lunatic since it's the standard nowadays, most definitely the standard for PoDD and PoFV because any other difficulty is boring in the Phantasmagorias.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I play PoFV? Normal mode, survival.
I've read the touhouwiki article, but I still don't get how this game works at all.
The game looks pretty easy until stage 7 when suddenly bosses just stop dying at all. But the problem is the lack of lives, sometimes I don't even get the 2nd extend when fighting with Shiki.
So what's the general strategy? How can I get spell levels quickly? What's the difference between charging spell by holding Z and just pressing X? When should I kill those ghostly things - before they move in focused purple field or after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507705
I mostly agree with your opinions here, except for on the scoring part since I don't really have enough experience there, but I would definitely put Flandre higher up than Koishi and probably Mamizou. For first clears, I think Mokou is probably the easiest, you get a lot of resources, the deathbomb window acts as a shield, and most of the patterns aren't hard for beginners (at least not if they use spell practice)

For NMNB, they're all around the same except for Mokou (who is a tad harder than the others) and Marisa (who is the hardest)

>>11506910
No matter which game you choose to play, keep in mind that your skills will only noticeably improve at just that one game. If you want to improve more in general, It's better to play a variety of games. Switching back and forth a bit also happens to be more fun, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11505973
Am I not getting answers because nobody knows?
I searched through the archive and came up with nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509119
Nobody knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509055
If you press X you use all of your gauge, whereas holding Z uses the gauge up to where you charge it minus your level 1. X should only be used when you have no other choice.

Basically you want to kill fairies methodically and often so the meter in the top left doesn't empty. Once that number hits 100k and 300k it sends a level 4 spell to the opponent and a level 3 + 4 at 500k. Sending this also gets rid of a level 4 on your side if there is one. You also get more points and therefore extends by keeping the chain high.

Because you send free level 4 spells to the opponent so often, using level 4's with your gauge is basically useless.

tl;dr spam level 2's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507024
I've actually managed to "defeat" Flandre, but I died right then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509055
Play as Aya, Eiki or Medicine if you want to beat the A.I. fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509055
Spam level 2, chain fairies, practice on Lunatic in match mode, don't restart if you get hit 30 seconds in.

Is it even possible to get good grinding single stages? I play through a single stage and restart it from the beginning whenever I die, but I don't know if I'm practicing right. I've seen some people using SpoilerAL to freeze boss timers and give themselves invincibility in which you still get hit, but don't actually die or anything. It seems like a good way to practice midbosses or games without spell practice, but maybe a bit cheesy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507705
There is scoring when fighting Mamizou, Suwako, Nue, or Raiko? What.

[Anonymous No.]

I had my first 1cc on TD
I always thought TD was harder so I never played it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509564
Mostly in the form of speedkills, Mamizou more so than the others mentioned. Yes that does count as scoring.

[Anonymous No.]

Help me /jp/, this game is too hard for me, too many bullets and my ADD doesn't help either.

How do i become good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509564
Why wouldn't there be?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth trying to get better at the game on normal? I've been playing for like a month, should I just bump it up to hard and get better at that before I get too used to normal and hit a wall when changing difficulties?

The only games I've managed to 1cc so far is Imperishable Night and Cherry Blossom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509580
Keep playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509584
Hilarious how low the standard of scoring has come with Touhou, isn't it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509584
Mamizou is a majority of the scoring in TD Extra. Chaining white spirits and skirt sniffing are incredibly important.

Bullet cancel timing can be significant for Suwako, often moreso than straight speed killing.

With how optimized UFO Extra tends to be, the few million point difference between regular play and intention speed killing can make or break a WR run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509592
Depends. Do you want to get better at Normal or Hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509639
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu50NdRawfI&t=5m50s

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509665
Bit scoring well in Garegga is 10x more difficult than Touhou, mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509065
>I would definitely put Flandre higher up than Koishi and probably Mamizou.
Yeah, so would I. It was an understatement of her difficulty, and I had forgotten most of it considering it's been years since my last credit in EoSD Extra. Thanks for notifying it out for me, though.

>>11509564
While I was including stages in the listing (which I should have pointed out in the first post), Mamizou is a scoring fight, Nue and Suwako less so, but still have some things of importance. I should have left out the new boss considering I only played it a few times.

Hope this clears up the confusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11509176
That's ok, thanks anyway. I'll figure out things myself.

[Anonymous No.]

Taking a break sure did help! Now I have to learn how to chain to the midboss all over again, but at least I pulled it off once in the two hours I've played. I am so glad for being able to speed past that beginning screen in MAME, restartitis would hurt so much more without it.

Here's hoping I'll be with 1-4 again by the end of the week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11510381
>>I would definitely put Flandre higher up than Koishi and probably Mamizou.
>Yeah, so would I.

For real? Flandre's stage is more difficult, and restarting in EoSD is a bitch compared to SA or TD, but Flandre herself is not particularly challenging...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11511169
good luck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DETUV4tCHMc

[Anonymous No.]

>>11512308
I'm fairly sure they were speaking about scoring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11512550
I don't think >>11509065 was talking about scoring but the other poster might have been.

[Anonymous No.]

I was 2-3 seconds away from beating Flandre.

What is this pain that I'm feeling, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11513200
495 years worth. But do press on, you will be so happy when you manage to beat her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11505905
>>11513200
>>11513226

Okay the pain is gone now since I just beat Flandre.

I managed to get to Flan without dying during the stage. I even captured her Secret "And Then Will There Be None?" which lead to me starting Q.E.D. with 3 lives and no bombs. Capturing Flan's survival spell also allowed me to deal a lot of damage to Flan for the first few seconds of Q.E.D. However I died once during Q.E.D. and died again after Flan exploded, thanks to a lingering bullet. Nonetheless, I'm feeling rather euphoric right now.

That makes my second fair extra clear and third extra clear overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11512325
Thanks, I'm gonna need it.

Played for about three hours last night, made it through to 1-6 after butchering the 1-4 chain because fuck it I need practice on 1-5 and 1-6 with both survival and scoring. Broke down and made save states at the beginning of 1-5 and 1-6 as well, but now I just feel really guilty for doing so. I actually feel bad for having fun practicing those stages with save states, but it's just so much more fun compared to restarting after 210 hits in 1-2 and having to be prosecutedt to the full extend of the jam.

It just feels like only the best of the best should use save states to practice, and I'm far from being even half decent at the game, so it feels like I should just do runs to practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11507705
Why would you consider Mamizou harder than Koishi when scoring? I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I was consistently good at these games. I'll have days where I'm doing amazing (for me) and getting past every part that was giving me trouble before, and then I'll pick it up the next day and start hitting random bullets in stage 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11515397
As some anon stated earlier, most of TD Extra's scoring happens during Mamizou. The strategies for not breaking your spirit chain can be quite difficult, while Koishi is mostly about speedkills and a few grazes. The noncards where you spin around her are rather difficult (for me, at least), but Mamizou simply has more attacks during which you have to do something for scoring.

Again, just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck optical illusions fuck event horizon.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, I'm still a bad player even with keyboard, but I think I'm slightly more consistent with chaining whenever I do play on keyboard.

The only issue is that I'm absolute garbage when it comes to survival if I'm not on pad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11501806
Took it's time, but fiftht one down.

Whoever said that EoSD is the easiest was lying trough his teeth. I always die at Remilia. Usually during the first spellcards.
Or maybe it's just me. i can't seem to get used to the clunkiness of the controls.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck super ego.

That is all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516676
What, that thing you can beat by alternating left and right every half-second?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516665
Reimu feels like she's slower than she is in other Touhou games.

>>11516676
You aren't good enough to be playing an Extra stage, go and play an easy CAVE shooter until you're good enough to play Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516676
it's just that other spell but backward

[Anonymous No.]

>take 1 month to 1cc EoSD for the first time (Normal)
>try PCB,IN and TD
>1cc them in literally 2 or 3 tries each

did I just get gud or is there like, a HUGE difference in difficulty between games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517392
Sorry, I don't understand your post. Are you quoting something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517392
Hmm...
PCB's border system gives you more chances at survival. You could even cancel them before the end if you wanted to refund cherry.
IN allows for better deathbombing.
TD lets you skip pretty much half the game with bombing and trance.
They're easier than the others in terms of survival, to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516972
>but backward
Yeah, that's the thing. I have a hard time with bullets that come from behind.
>>11516855
Nice edge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516972
>but backward
That's it. Bullets that come from behind are annoying.

>>11516855
>You aren't good enough to be playing an Extra stage
I apparently am though, since I 1cc'd normal and the game lets me play extra.

I don't even know what CAVE shooters are. Calm down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11517392
It's been many years now so I can't remember how long it took me to 1cc EoSD, but I ended up having a harder time with PCB. Fuck, I struggled to even 1cc PCB Easy. I wound up skipping the game and playing IN (which is indeed easy, on top of having spell practice to make it even easier) a whole lot before going back to PCB. To this day I'm not sure I've ever 1cc'd PCB other than using SakuyaA and spamming bombs against Youmu and Yuyuko. I might have managed it once with ReimuB.

Having started with EoSD I always found it the easiest on Normal (I was never a Lunatic player so things would be different in that case).

[Anonymous No.]

Since everyone else did it, I played some IN Extra on this weekend as well.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally did it /jp/.

I know the score is shit but this is a great moment for me.

2 down, many to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519634
Nice! Care to upload a replay? I need to step up my game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11520399
I usually do, so looking at the uploader would've saved you some time.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=30809

It's nothing much to look at, though. I'd suggest watching the WR instead, in case you wanted to steal a route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11519634
Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I need to get 100M before the end of the month, but my survival in the later stages is just so horrible with keyboard. My chaining is pretty much spot on now that I've switched, but 1-5 and 1-6 are wrecking me harder than ever.

The worst part about dying in the first loop is knowing that anybody with half a brain can at least 1cc it with only one or two deaths throughout the entire loop, but here I am, bombing and dying a gazillion times like an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11523068
>I need to get 100M before the end of the month
Is this some sort of shmup rent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11523080
Nah, I just need to prove to somebody that I can do it or else he'll forever brand me as the worst shmup player alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11523068
I have half a brain but I still can't 1cc DDP without many dumb deaths.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone try this game before?

Been playing it a bit lately. Really fun.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the most impressive world record ever? Is there a video of it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11525453
Objectively speaking: WTN's 748m in Dodonpachi because of the game's immense popularity. It attracted all of the most talented players in Japan and they fought tooth and nail to claim that coveted #1 position.

Other notables:
WTN - Donpachi
SPS - Ketsui
HFD - Daioujou
Kamui - Garegga
NAK - Futari

[Anonymous No.]

>>11525453
Hishozame/Flying Shark
World (JPN ver): JIN.K - 100.000.000+α - 182-4

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>11524029
I have it, it's pretty neat. I hadn't realized it was the sequel to a free doujin game until I stumbled upon the latter sometime later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11525715
Is there any video of WTN's run? The best one I have to look at is 600m.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11525834
I'm pretty sure his 748m run was never released due to him being really secretive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11525453
Gus's Bug Princess Two 1.5 Ultra mode Ultra run that is the world records. It's on youtube as well so get yourself some popcorn and check that out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11527683
>Bug Princess Two

[Anonymous No.]

>>11527683
counter stops are less impressive than wr's in games that have infinite potentials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11527683
The commentary is hilarious, I can guarantee that.

[Anonymous No.]

Just bought Dodonpachi Resurrection and Saidaioujou. How different is it compared to 2hu?

Are shmups hard with an xbox controller? I've always used a keyboard for 2hu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11528762
>How different is it compared to 2hu?
Harder survival and harder scoring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11529059
>Resurrection
>harder survival
Not really. Hell, I've 2-ALL'd it and I'm a dirty casual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11529069
Ura 2-ALL with Power

[Anonymous No.]

Is anyone ever going to upload the superplay that came with Ketsui PS3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11529240
LNMNBNV, being able to place restrictions on the way you play doesn't change the difficulty of a base clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11525453
Donpachi - SOF-WTN - 84.170.530
Great Mahou Daisakusen - KDK-Takeyuki - 99.999.990
Ibara - ACR - a.010.010
Pink Sweets - YOS.K - 20.614.480
Triggerheart Exelica - PELA - 768.067.269

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530595
Any videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11528762
Seemingly impossible at first, but you get used to the piece of shit after having to endure playing with it. There are some really good players who play on 360 pad, by choice or by force, and they can still score very well.

Stick and keyboard is still a lot more fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530600

Nope, but poseurs love to pretend that they know what's "the most impressive WR" even though they haven't even watched the runs they mention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530540
Clearing the hardest loop with the style made for advanced players is not an artificial restriction, unlike that mess of letters you just wrote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530540
LNMNBNBB is still easier than LNMNBN:V.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530600
Sadly not, ACR has a V score run up on youtube from the (harder) PS2 version. Clover YMN has a run just under 90M out and there's a 550M Exelica run out, it has some notable mistakes that would've made it 600M, still an impressive run.
>>11530613
Most impressive run is always opinionated those where my opinion based on time spent with the games, understanding of scoring systems and what I've seen other players achieve in the games. I'm sure other player have different opinions based on things like those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530616
I never called anything an "artificial" restriction, learn to read fuck knuckle. And yes choosing to play the hardest mode/loop with the hardest shot or not using certain resources are restriction.

>>11530649
Everything is easier than N:V ^_~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530668
I called it an artificial restriction because that's exactly what LNMNBNV is. The highest difficulty in Resurrection, as intended by the programmers, is a power style ura clear. Touhou's equivalent is lunatic mode.

[Anonymous No.]

Any recommended arcade sticks for shmups?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530881

kinobo usb gamepad
10 dollars, is a stick/d-pad hybrid and best of all allows you to keep your thumbtip over the bomb button while shooting with the knuckle of your thumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530881
I'd recommend any Hori Real Arcade Pro. You'll want to swap parts out after a while no matter what you get, so just choose one that's comfortable for you.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still quite bad at touhou.
Oh, my.
I will continue, none the less.
Perhaps I will return here as a "lunatic" some day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11531198

I'm pretty horrible at the games. I wind up dying at the stupidest things in the early stages

I can only really play the photo games

How embarrasing

[Anonymous No.]

http://blog.eternicity.net/2010/02/23/5-tips-to-help-you-stop-being-a-secondary-touhou-fan-and-start-dodging-bullets/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11535497
1. Hold shift to focus

[Anonymous No.]

>>11535497
Where are his scores?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11530881
Anything with a Seimitsu LS-32 or LS-58

[Anonymous No.]

>>11528762
I think one of the top scorers on the XBL leaderboard for Futari 1.5 uses an Xbox controller, if that means anything to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11536161
you can git gud with anything as long as you put in the time because game knowledge is 10x more important than input device

but on the other hand, you may be able to git gud faster with more accurate controls

[Anonymous No.]

>>11535286
I've never been, but aren't the photo games supposed to be even harder?

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/, is playing with an arcade stick the key to getting good at Touhou?
I've been keyboarding my entire life and 1ccing in normal is my limit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11537072
Theres no difficulty setting, but the first 3 stages are about on par with easy-normal mode.

Plus you get to retry instantly as much as you want without having to go through a whole stage again. Makes memorizing the cards easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11537076
Various Japanese players seem to play with a Sega Saturn pad.

The best Touhou players on /jp/ all used a keyboard, as far as I'm aware.

You can get good and manage well on pretty much any input setting, it's more about practice and learning how to control yourself with the said tool, not selecting some tools over others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11537363
PC gaming pretty much overshadowed consoles where I grew up, so I never had a chance to be exposed to input devices other than keyboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11537083

Yeah being able to retry instantly makes it easier but it can still take me awhile to clear scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

Full moon tomorrow night. Who is going beat their IN high scores with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11538993
Heh, maybe I'll play a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11538993
What a coincidence -- it was just this morning that I thought, "I should beat my hard score."

[Anonymous No.]

I finally 1ccd futari maniac. I feel like a god even though Im not even good. Now Im gonna move on and play some Ginga Force.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11539868
1.5 or black label? 1.5 is pretty hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>11539876
1.5

[Anonymous No.]

I captured Kaguya's last spell without practicing it at all!

[Assreaver No.]

I know this isn't a dump board but I finally got ahold of Raiden DX's ending images (Because uh, it took me forever to figure out Arcade mode simply loops forever) and wanted to post them somewhere FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS (Yeah, what am I thinking?).

I'll also provide some specs too, just because.

BOSS 0: BLACK GRORER
TYPE: HEAVY ARTILLERY VEHICLE
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: HIDDEN ARTILLERY CANNONS
WEAK POINT: CENTRAL CRYSTAL

[Assreaver No.]

Hey guys, I know this isn't a dump board, but I recently 1cc'd Raiden DX on Normal with the sole intention of unlocking the ending images (Because apparently, if you try putting it on any Arcade setting, it just loops forever. Bah). So I'm going to post them here FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS (Pah, posting for future generations on a 4chan board. What irony).

I'll also provide specs for the bosses.

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 1: WALKERS
TYPE: WALKING TANKS
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: 60mm VULCAN
WEAK POINT: ROTATING TURRET

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 2: ALBATROSS
TYPE: SMALL AIRBORNE AIRCRAFT CARRIER
ARMOR: NORMAL
WEAPONS: 40mm VULCAN, GLIDERS
WEAK POINT: WINGS, MAIN GUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>11516665
You're just a weirdo, EoSD is the third easiest after MoF and TD which are also the only games i've beaten + PCB - I don't know how you cleared UFO and IN, those games just destroy me

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 3: BATTLE AXE
TYPE: SUBMARINE
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPONS: 40mm CANNONS (23), HEAVY FIRE TURRET
WEAK POINT: HEAVY FIRE TURRET

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 4: THUNDER TEMPLE
TYPE: ARMED BASE
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: HEAVY ARTILLERY CANNONS
WEAK POINT: MAIN STRUCTURE

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 5-1: BLACKBIRD
TYPE: SPACE SHUTTLE
ARMOR: LIGHT
WEAPON: 40mm CANNONS
WEAK POINT: MAIN REACTOR

BOSS 5-2: AIRWEAR
TYPE: ARMORED AIRCRAFT
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: HEAVY ARTILLERY CANNONS
WEAK POINT: CENTER

BOSS 5-3: GERMES
TYPE: PROTOTYPE FIGHTER
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: 40mm VULCAN CANNONS
WEAK POINT: CENTER PART

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 6: GRAPHITE
TYPE: HEAVY ARTILLERY TANK
ARMOR: NORMAL
WEAPONS: 120mm MOBILE CANNON, 60mm HEAVY CANNONS
WEAK POINT: CENTRAL CANNON

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 7: BUSY SATELLITE
TYPE: TRANSPORT VESSEL
ARMOR: NORMAL
WEAPON: 30mm CANNONS
WEAK POINT: CORE

[Assreaver No.]

BOSS 8: MASARHEUN
TYPE: ARMED BASE
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: 60mm CANNONS (7), GIANT ENERGY CRYSTAL
WEAK POINT: CENTRAL CRYSTAL

[Assreaver No.]

TRAINING LEVEL BOSS (LEVEL 0): BLACK GRORER
TYPE: HEAVY ARTILLERY VEHICLE
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: HIDDEN ARTILLERY CANNONS
WEAK POINT: CENTRAL CRYSTAL

[Assreaver No.]

EXPERT LEVEL BOSS (LEVEL 9): GRAY NOSUL
TYPE: HEAVY ARTILLERY VEHICLE
ARMOR: HEAVY
WEAPON: HIDDEN ARTILLERY CANNONS, CRYSTAL DEFENSE
WEAK POINT: CENTRAL CRYSTAL

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no! I learned how to chain 1-4, but somehow forgot how to do the bullet cancels in 1-3. Yeah, I don't think I'll be seeing 100M before the end of the month.

[Anonymous No.]

Hullo /jp/
How do I into Touhou game?
Which do I play first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11542310
>How do I into Touhou game
Press directional keys to move/dodge, Z to shoot, X to bomb and hold shift to focus.

>Which do I play first?
Mountain of Faith.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11542265
Do your best, Anon-kun!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11542310
Don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11542310
you play The Touhouvanias

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck this shit!
i`m using 2hu jesus right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>11541731
IN "destroys" you?

...Excuse me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11542265
I had a night of runs where I got 1-4 several times but got 1-2 maybe once. I would also forget the parts of 1-4 I'd already learned once I learned a new part.

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>>11542666
Excuse you?

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>>11542785
IN is hands-down the easiest game.

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>>11542766
I've been dropping the 1-2 chain more frequently now too, along with dying on 1-3, but now I'm getting 1-4. Two deaths in a row on 1-5 really just makes me feel like shit though, especially considering how "easy" the game is.

My worst was when I could perfectly do 1-2 and 1-3, but somehow forgot how to do 1-1. It doesn't feel like I'm getting any better, and it's quite heart breaking when I think of all the time I put in without making much progress. Only 80 hours of playing isn't much when you think about it, but I should at least be consistent with 1-1 1-2 and 1-3. I also should have no deaths on the first loop at all, but I still have deaths that shouldn't happen anyway, probably because I unconsciously just give up after dropping a chain.

Still better than constantly restarting like I used to do.

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>>11542800
Maybe if you're a total secondary. Try playing the game properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11543302
He's talking about survival. IN is pathetically easy compared to say, UFO.

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>>11543384
>playing for survival

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>>11543425
Why are you quoting me?

[Anonymous No.]

Any of you doods play cho ren sha?

I always fuck up choosing my power up.

[Anonymous No.]

I get to the easy part and I drop it again and again and again. Zero bombs by the 1-2 boss because I instantly waste them the moment I drop a chain, no point in even trying at that point, but at least it gives me a reason to practice instead of being a retard and panic bombing through everything.

Don't ask about the power up. I'm too afraid to grab it half of the time until I drop the chain since it breaks my chain nearly every time I grab it, the only time I actually get it is when I'm on top of the flower carrier after the second tank.

[Anonymous No.]

>LYX deleted his Th14 Normal SakuyaB score off Royalflare
Looks like he could be making an improvement to his previous upload. It's definitely possible to achieve 1.5 billion. Maybe 1.6 or more with additional resources and better spellcard handling on Stages 5/6.
It looks more difficult to get enough extends for Sekibanki than the other shot types, though he handles this very well.
The research that has been put into DDC has been interesting so far.

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>>11544065
Don't choose. Get all three.

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>>11545650
That's probably what he meant, that he fucks up getting all three. It's not too trivial, especially if there's enemies around.

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>>11545251
Grab it while shotting popcorns if you want to be absolutely sure. My bee route picks that one up immediately though.

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>>11543425
If you read the quote chain and derived the context, you'd know the start of the convo was a guy talking about clearing normal modes and that IN gave him a rough time and the next anon was like lolwut? IN normal is easy

To give my 2 cents, it is 'easy' in the sense that you get a shitton of bombs to just blast through any troublesome cards.
Once you try actually clearing cards from stage 4 and beyond during a playthrough though, it gets pretty intense.
And then you look up half the cards that give you trouble and realize the tricks to them are retardedly simple.

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>>11545888
I'm using what I believe to be an extremely outdated route, I believe. Then again, the last time I actually watched a superplay was a year ago.

From what I can recall, the run actually had dropped before he even hit the midboss.

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>>11546662
I misremembered since it's sort of unconscious. I only pick it up there if it happens to float down. I'm doing something similar to K.O's run.

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>>11543384
>survival
Try playing the game properly.

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>>11549545
Wow man, talk about MAXMIMUM AUTISM. Try reading my post properly next time champ, and maybe we'll get somewhere.

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>>11549562
If you can't see the point: playing for survival is not playing the game properly. Hence why he said "try playing the game properly."

>maybe we'll get somewhere.
Don't kid yourself. You know these discussions get nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

> Actually wasting time by scoring in these games.
> Being that much of an autistic faggot.
Ahahaha.


Pic related. It's the face of autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11549851
GameTV is pretty hot.

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>>11549859
4chans standards of what they consider hot never cease to amaze me. If that is hot, then I am perfection personified.

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>>11549830
He said "try playing the game properly" to someone who wasn't playing for survival in the first place just because that someone MENTIONED survival. That makes him sound like a retard.

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>>11549830
Saying, "Try playing the game properly" is superfluous when the discussion is of survival.

[Anonymous No.]

I play pad in fighters and platformers, but play shmups with keyboard.

I'm bad at them with both pad and keyboard, but this surely can't be a good idea.

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>>11550711
Keyboards are more precise than pads. Just don't use a crappy keyboard.

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>>11551100
Ghosting isn't an issue, but it is an old rubber dome keyboard.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll be buying a new keyboard soon and I'm planning to go mechanical. What colour caps do you guys use? I was thinking of getting brown but red seems to be popular with STG players.

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>>11551346
All of the best players in NA use reds.

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>>11551346
Red or Black for gaming, Blue or Brown for typing.

On a scale of best for games ---- best for typing:
Red----Black----Brown----Blue

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>>11551394
I'm pretty sure some American players use Blacks, like Heartbeam.

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>>11551394
That SA guy uses blacks.

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>>11551409
>>11551419
Is it even possible to be good if you aren't using blacks? Should I just give up trying to be good and sell my soul to just credit feeding and fucking around?

I'm forced to use a rubber dome because I can't afford a mechanical. I'm stuck with this keyboard, ps2 pad, or a 360 pad until I can afford one. I want to know which is the best to use so I don't fall into the loop of being a shittastic failure of a player.

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>>11551394
>>11551402
Thanks for the info. I guess I'll go with the browns because (from my experience) the reds are stupidly light, and the blacks don't seem like they'd be enjoyable to type on.

>>11551488
Rubber dome can be fine for non-dedicated gaming. I've managed to 1CC EotSD on Hard despite it being my first shmup and I was using a shitty logitech rubber dome, so I'm sure you'll be fine unless you're a highscore fanatic.

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>>11551652
Red being light is the point. I love the fast keypresses and to me it feels good to type on but maybe I'm strange. If you are very into STGs I caution you to reconsider red or black.

[Anonymous No.]

I played a lot of IN again recently. I can 1cc on hard by now.
I loved the concept of the last words in IN so it became a kind of goal for me to finish all of them. In the past few days I managed to beat the 4 out of the 5 I was missing. (222, 216, 214 and 212 in this order)
The only one left is 215 (Fantasy Heaven) and I can't seem to get a decent run. I can get to about 15-10 second most of the time but I don't have a 100% working strategy for even that part. I think I can manage getting down to about 10 seconds 90% of the time if I play a bit more but it seems like the card gets exponentially harder from there. Are there any good strategies?

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>>11551394
>>11551488
>>11551652
I use an SK-8115 keyboard and have set multiple Touhou world records. Ganbatte.

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>>11551652
I've set some Touhou world records using Logitech K200.

As I said earlier in the thread, you can "get good" and manage well on pretty much any input setting, it's more about practice and learning how to control yourself with the said tool, not selecting some tools over others.

You guys are way too focused on input devices.

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>>11552695
This is probably true. I switched from rubberdome to reds. Still about the same.

[Anonymous No.]

Is eXceed 3rd considered easy? It feels easy.

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>>11555041
I haven't played it but Bullet Children felt really slow and easy. Are the other two better? Does Bullet Children get better? I'm always too bored to continue.

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>>11555213
Nope, it doesn't, and the only character that doesn't move at a snail's pace is the blonde if I recall correctly but for some stupid fucking reason her "slowdown" renders her completely immobile; although I don't suppose you'd need it considering how sloppy the bullet spam is.

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>>11555226
How disappointing. I merely want to take it easy and play magical girl shooting games.

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>>11555226
Wait, no it's the girl who uses fire attacks that's the fast one, and the slowdown immobility only seems to happen when I'm firing at the same time so the problem might actually be my keyboard.

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>>11555213
I'd say 3rd is worth a try. I dunno what it is but I can do all the ambitious shit in 3rd that I can't do in other stg's. Maybe its the controls or the hitboxes are just super generous, but I can steer that loli through the eye of a needle. Also the kill everyone point-blank scoring system is nice as well.

[Anonymous No.]

I love playing on keyboard, but I'm absolute trash with it. At least I'm learning KB a lot faster than I did pad, but still, dying to the streaming hell section in 1-5 three times back to back is pretty idiotic.