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[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys, i`m from another dimension.

i was playing Touhou Hopeless Masquerade (the new Soku)
it was a good gameplay and wow!
ZUN really bring back Satsuki Rin and Mima
there are total of 35 characters in this game also background characters can be playable characters too.

[Anonymous No.]

Ha ha ha, very funny!

[Anonymous No.]

Nice stage, will download.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sure when a new fighter is released people will complain it's not as good as the older ones (including HM), same with people complaining that touhou is declining everytime a new game comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11383995
100% True

History repeats itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11383995
not 100% true
People complain more because of small roster.
If the next game has more characters people will certainly think it's better than the last.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11383995
>>11384013

A mix of both.

Cutting anyone from the roster = fuck you

Same game + bigger roster = fuck yes.

The weird thing is that the mechanics in this game are severely different from the prior Touhou fightans.

I'm not looking forward to that whole alternate wincon via popular actions bullshit.

Time out or damage only please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384017
You must not have been around when everybody was bitching about the changes made from SWR to Soku.

Also the Suika butthurt after 1.07

[Anonymous No.]

>Popularity system
>No ground combat (at all)
>Actually need better than scum specs to run it for once

#Intel Core 2 Duo (2.6GHz or higher)
# 2 GB RAM
# 512 MB VRAM
# 1 GB free disk space
# Pixel Shader 2.0
# DirectX 9.0c

>Only 19 tracks, suggesting small roster

I am not hype

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384043
this is touhou discussion, not homosexual discussion

[Anonymous No.]

>>11383995
The problem with HM is that it's not SWR/Soku.
>The only characters that come back are Reimu and Marisa
>No characters earlier than MoF which frankly, are the bulk of touhou popularity
>Buddykes and Taohoes aren't really that popular
>Nitori and Koishi aren't exactly the most popular characters
>pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384051
What's the difference

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384135
Why character's popularity should matter?

It's like you love sucking on dicks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384162
Newsflash: People like playing as favourite characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384162
Non sequitur

[Anonymous No.]

Ur mom...r lol
>>11384168
>>11384167

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384135
I don't want to keep seeing Cirno, Remi or Aya

>>11384167
It's good when a game doesn't cater to people.
Just because it doesn't have a characters you like doesn't mean that what makes the game bad.

I like seeing the newhus got a spot, rather than keep re-using old/popular characters, especially for the sake of pandering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384178
If it doesnt have at least 5 EoSD chicks it is not worth playing. That goes for all spin offs

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>It's good when a game doesn't cater to people.

That doesn't make any sense at all. If you're not attempting to cater to a particular group of people, you're failing to make a good game for them. Even if it's "You might not know you like this, but you will after you play it!" catering, at least you believe you're trying to match their tastes.

Making something for the sake of making it is art. Making something to be enjoyed, played, and sold is only partly art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11383961
holy fucking shit where is mima!?

give me screenshot!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384183
I admit my statement has a fallacy.

I'm only regarding the characters, though. Of course you have to observe what people enjoyed to make a good game, but for characters you can put any Touhous and it doesn't have to be popular characters.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwbqK5xIbFI

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>11384198
If the characters involved were a separate issue from enjoyment, then that would be fine, but two issues that you have to consider are character suitability, where you can create a fighting style that meshes with the character's aesthetics and is fun to use, and character following, where people want to play that character because they're attracted to them.

There's a reason Ryu is still in Street Fighter, and it's not because people like Ryu. There's also a reason certain fan favorites always return, even if their win rank is subpar vs. other characters and they are gimmicky to play as.

Aesthetic is not separate from "catering."

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384216
At least 4 characters stay for two frames.
Improve yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384235
I see Luna Child, Star Sapphire, Orin, Mokou, Yuugi, Wriggle, Youmu, Satori, Elly, Aya and Remilia

[Anonymous No.]

I would say the biggest disappointment for people was both that people were mad that their touhou wasn't in it and that the game isn't soku. It's like with music when fans are mad that a band doesn't make more of the same stuff or that the old stuff was better and when they do make only same stuff people complain about that.
personally I don't mind the choice with the roster but the game lacks in variety and presentation. Music and character portraits are mostly meh.
soku on the other hand is flawed in the gameplay, but I can enjoy the music but I don't really like it's RNG gameplay, soku is a game that wouldn't be played if it wasn't touhou.

I hope they are going for a small remake, remove the popularity system and boost roster and variety a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384200

[Anonymous No.]

>>11383961
any link to download the whole package? 35? is that all of them so far?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384256
HM's story itself is revolves around popularity. If the next fighting game adopt the same gameplay with different story, they will certainly remove the popularity system.

Unless somehow they keep it and gave it a different name to suit the story or using another/adding more shitty system, that'd be shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384275
Don`t believe him, he is a liar.

i doubt he is playing Mugen

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384277
popularity system is still better than the weather and card system that is too RNG. That popularity decides who wins when the time runs out is a major annoyance and apart from that the system doesn't do much for most cases. It could be improved but to scrap it is likely the better solution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384312

I agree that the weather can be bullshit, but when you can build your own deck of spell cards, it's not exactly RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384370
The order in which you get the cards is random, which can be a problem. That you need a card to change your standard attacks is annoying, but my biggest issue with the card system is the way you get them to be usable. Some characters have it much easier to spam danmaku than others, so they have an advantage in cards.
A lot of from the card system could be done better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384293
I saw how the characters play in Saltybet. I hope someone just made a collection of just the touhou monstrosities into one mugen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384277
Well, the weather system was back in soku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11384264
awesome!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11383961

I wish you were for real