/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

>horrible gimmicks for the last two stages
>abysmally easy game on Normal and lower once you've seen them once
>Extrastage boss has little to no bomb immunity, and the stage is easy as Stage 4

How is DDC better than Ten Desires?

Don't get me wrong, I like DDC, too, and I agree that trance was bullshit, but I want someone who can honestly tell me that DDC is any more challanging than TD in any way.

[Anonymous No.]

2hu is shit since UFO, It just keeps getting shittier.

[Anonymous No.]

People have been complaining about Touhou going to shit and the fanbase declining ever since SoEW. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

challenging =/= better

I think the game is very fun. I like all the new music, and most of the new characters are cute.
Just enjoy, anon. Touhou games have never been a pinnacle of gameplay. Just enjoy the atmosphere, cute girls, and the fanworks that come along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296310
He can't even maintain a proper atmosphere. It doesn't feel like an eastern wonderland anymore. Werewolves and dulahans? Come on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296280
>How is DDC better than Ten Desires?
We all know it's worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296335
What is touhou 6, no wait, what is touhou 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296310
I am aware of that, and I am enjoying the games to the fullest! Though that's what bothers me about the fandom, I know many people, not only here on /jp/ who hate on anything TD with little to no reason.

I personally find the backgrounds of the characters very appealing.

Calling ZUN unoriginal for just taking a real life historical figure and making her into a Gensokyo Persona as the Final boss in Ten Desires can be now claimed for Shin as well.

Again, I don't see how this is a bad thing at all.

Japanese history and mythology is full of things that can find their way into Touhou and add to the whole story around Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296343
See, that's exactly what I was saying. TH2:SoEW was the best Touhou game and they all went downhill from there, anyone who disagrees with that is a casual secondary fag.

[Anonymous No.]

So now that Touhou has gone to shit, where is the next game/thinly veiled excuse to stare at little girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296356
Hilarious troll /b/ro.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait until TH15 so DDC can become good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296359
Kancolle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296363
DDC will be like UFO. It will never be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296361
You're missing the point, which is that it's pointless to whine about the latest game being "bad", because all other games are equally "bad" when they come out, and you all end up liking them anyway once enough time has gone by.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296375
That's Stockholm Syndrome. You shouldn't force yourself to play a shitty game just because it has Touhou in the title.

[Zack No.]

hey someone could tell me where can i download th14? i wanna complain too and i cant find it, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou ended with IN like Pokémon ended with G/S

[Anonymous No.]

I liked Raiko's theme and the gimmicks were at least refreshing but the entire second half wasn't memorable, I have a hard time even remembering who was in the 4th stage and the final boss was about as threatening as Kokoro. I just hope the excessive powerups and reduced death penalties are a one time thing as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296383
If you're just gonna complain then there's no point in giving it to you.

Such negativity all the time form this place, I don't know why I even come here anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296350
Everybody parrots the IRCfags who get the highest scores. Everybody just assumes they know everything about shmups because they're the so-called best in the west for a few certain games.

The first impression of a big name player is usually what the opinion of the game will be no matter how good or bad it is. I'm sure if some WR holder came into IRC and said that chaining was a shitty scoring system stop playing the pachis, they probably would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296384
But Black and White were really good. In some ways they were even better than Gold and Silver.

[Anonymous No.]

Uh...I don't like it. TD was much worse though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296400
Read his e-mail, I don't think he was serious in either of the cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296293

Games are going to crap, but fanbase is actually still growing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296293
>fanbase declining ever since SoEW
Bullshit. EoSDfags are fucking everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296381
I just want to do like other people.

[Anonymous No.]

Just to remind you that ZUN's wife thinks the game is too hard for her.

[Anonymous No.]

Things are pretty dire when I can 1CC the game on Hard Mode after not playing a shmup for almost a year.

Get your shit together ZUN.

[Anonymous No.]

TD was challanging because it was shit and boring as fuck to play, there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296768
Lunatic 1cc on my third try. Game is almost as piss easy as TD was in my opinion, possibly because of ZUN's wife telling him it was too hard. :V

Demo had promise, but the full release... Ugh.

[Anonymous No.]

DDC is the best Touhou game since Imperishable Night, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296403
I fucking hate chaining and medals.

>>11296280
1CC first try on normal. It's pretty easy, but at least there's no trance trivializing the game and fucking up the music. Also I like the gimmicks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296834
>Also I like the gimmicks.
This. It's better than the same shit over and over again. My favourite boss fight ever is Sakuya in EoSD and that was filled to the fucking brim with gimmicks.

[yukkureimu No.]

niggas b dense as fuck. There wasn't a touhou fanbase during the PC-98 days that's just crazy talk.

[Anonymous No.]

better than MoF at least

[Anonymous No.]

Call it a gimmick all you want, stage 5 boss was probably the most fun I've had playing a Touhou game ever.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it me? or is the EX stage itself harder than the Boss herself?

Freaking giant faeries ejaculating odd hitbox bullets all over the screen are a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300225
It seems so. I died to most of her spell cards on my first try, but they are more puzzles than actual dodging.
For example, the one where an array of barrels come at you. Once I found out that you can stay close to her, let the barrels fly past you and shotgun her inbetween barrel arrays, the whole thing is trivial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296310
The atmosphere in this game is kinda messed up, inconsistency between western 2hus and Isshun legend. Maybe I just don't know much about Isshun-boshi.

Even UFO has great atmosphere and TD has nice concept, both have nice stories. The characters are much interesting.
It feels like ZUN try to back on japanese folklore but kinda messed up. Just hope the next game will be better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300294
My sentiments exactly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300294
>Just hope the next game will be better.
Protip: it won't be. ZUN is running out of ideas, as evidenced by how desperate DDC is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300225
What the fuck? You find an EX boss easy but have trouble with the easiest stage ever made?
It's like 90% aimed shots with no stray rounds, AKA easiest streaming of my life

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300356
it's overall easier in comparison to other stages, but right after the mini bosses, the giant faeries with their huge wad bullets always get me. And after that the swarm of aimed faries. I haven't gotten their patterns down, so i'm going all around the stage then appear right next to where another swarm rushes in. I waste atleast 3-4 bombs on them.

>>11300352
Speaking of which, what the hell are the last two bosses supposed to be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300294
Issun-boshi's legend plays little role other than to introduce the mallet. The true villain is Seija, an Ama no Jaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300294
The first demo was promising and I have high expectation but then it was just went really downhill from there, concept wise, at least.

though the gameplay was great. Maybe now ZUN is more focused on gameplay than story/concept, but it feels just wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300394
I find it a lot easier than stages 5 and 6, personally. More forgiving too. You can tell it's designed to let you PoC between waves.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought the final boss might get better if one reads her profile, but 90% of it are not even about her, just the hammer.

[Anonymous No.]

Jaimers:
>So Touhou 14, I'll just say holy fucking crap. The Lunatic in this game is absolutely bonkers insane. This is way, way harder than UFO Lunatic ever hoped to be.
This is not Lunatic anymore. This is Ultra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Iy6ucY2mlI

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300456
Harder than any of the other lunatics, I wonder?

[Anonymous No.]

Ugh, so much of the music in this game is to rocky for its own good.

[Anonymous No.]

DDC is taoshit free

that's why it's better

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300482
not harder than Lotus Land Story Lunatic, of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300402
Then what about the Tsukumo sisters and Raiko? What's their relation to Isshun-boshi and the plot of this game?
As soon as this things get cleared and maybe some extra info and backstory from printworks and manga maybe this game will be much better.

[Anonymous No.]

I liked how the mastermind was an asshole. She's cartoonishly contrarian and doesn't want to have tea and be friends. It was interesting to see a stage 6 boss who was a pawn of someone else, as well as the extra boss using the outside world to save her and her kin's lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300535
Dont lie to me, son, Seiga is in the extra stage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300394
>Speaking of which, what the hell are the last two bosses supposed to be?
6 and Extra, or 5 and 6?

Boss 5 is the mastermind Oni who convinced the lesser beings to start a rebellion. 6 is Issen who was tricked into the rebellion because he thinks being small he was being mistreated. Extra is the Drums of the Thunder God and the Lute of the Goddess of Music both striking out on their own to, again, try and rebel and take power for themselves because they don't want to be tools anymore.

All because the Oni of act 5 tricked them. There is a reason they are considered of lower class, despite their immense power; they aren't very bright.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300626
Geez, another oni? And a scheming, tricky oni at that? Hmmm...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300626
The stage 5 boss is sadly not an Oni, and is explicity described as not being one.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like the problem with DDC is from stage 4 and onward, they feel kind of rushed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300626
So it isn't really about Isshun-boshi legend and she was just there being manipulated? Why the hell she became 6th boss?

[Anonymous No.]

>An amanojaku who plots social upheaval.
>Amanojaku aren't oni, but just a particularly twisted type of youkai.

Also 6 is a descendant of Issun-boushi, who isn't aware about the history of the artifact she weilds, and was given a fake story by the stage 5 boss to rebel against the system

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300659
>The stage 5 boss is sadly not an Oni, and is explicity described as not being one.
Really? Curious...
>>11300673
>So it isn't really about Isshun-boshi legend and she was just there being manipulated? Why the hell she became 6th boss?
As was explained by others, there are a lot of over-powered idiots in Gensokyo. The reason they weren't major players in society was because they were idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300456
That seemed to be the case to me too. But the V crew didn't notice because they just bombed through it first time with MarisaB or SakuyaA and declared it easiest game ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300685
天邪鬼 is described as a kind of Oni by Wikipedia. But I guess ZUN's definition of Oni is not the same as wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300685
I wonder if there's a connection between Cirno's inclusion and the later bosses idiocy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300725
>I wonder if there's a connection between Cirno's inclusion and the later bosses idiocy?
Cirno, as a fairy, is rebelling all day every day. So it made no difference for her to be tricked by anybody. She only showed up because of the lake location.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300735
No no, not like that. Not a plot connection, just a theme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300694
My own theory is that in ZUN's world to be called an Oni you had to be very powerful. But with the Amanojaku, she specialises in manipulating other people, and not that powerful on her own. So maybe that means she couldn't be classified as an Oni for being weak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300659
But she's got horns!

[Anonymous No.]

Sound like stage 5 boss is mischievous and needs a good dicking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300753
>But she's got horns!
Guess the difference between her and a true Oni is like the difference between a Goblin and an Orc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300758
Also, ZUN oni hate trickery and lying of all forms, which sort of goes against what the stage 5 boss is all about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300755
But she will only feel happy if you dislike fucking her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300755
Do you see that face she makes when you beat her? She needs it badly.

[Anonymous No.]

In case anyone hasn't noted it: DDC has the same bug as TD. You can unlock stages in practice mode via spell practice. Once you have seen a card it is unlocked for all characters, and once you played it with a character the respective stage gets unlocked, even when you never played with that character in the normal game mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300690
This is official cheat-mod. Play no bomb, and DIE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300755
Well to bad. Touhou porn doesn't do karma. All the cunts go around dominating and molesting people and all the good girls get raped.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm getting black stuff in textboxes instead of dialogue
how can i fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300782
TD has spell practice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300790
>limiting yourself means the game is harder

Shut up retard. Go fap to your lolis and think easy games are hard just because you give them artificial difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300626
I believe the final boss would die or meet any other horrible fate when the plot of the stage 5 boss would be succesfull. The final boss has an item which can grant wishes but "punishes" you for it.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Shinmyoumaru_Sukuna
Expand the omake.txt
The new "prismriver sisters" would turn back into normal items after the power of Sukuna has faded. Raiko (extra stage boss) has replaced her original body with outside world things. BTW, she likes to get beaten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300796
Yes, it has.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires
>The game also features Spell Practice mode. At the time of its release, Ten Desires, together with Imperishable Night, were the only games to include this.

>>11300800
Are you using this auto-updating translation patch, perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300824
i used the auto-updating translation patch but i have tried it without it and it still shows up like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300770
If someone rape her, will she be happy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300840
Only if you really hate raping her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300860
>haterape
sounds interesting

[Anonymous No.]

So is Seija confirmed as the most evil 2hu?

Also, she's the first 5th boss who isn't a servant. She can't belong to the 5th stage party

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300878

She's the mastermind. It's quite strange she's stage 5 boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300885
We had 4th stage bosses who are actually the superior/mentor of latter bosses.
Seiga and Satori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300878
>So is Seija confirmed as the most evil 2hu?
According to people here, she is the only 2hu to have refused to join the end game tea party. That's a pretty nasty sign of evil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300885
Shou is kinda like the mastermind of UFO. Byakuren also worships Shou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300878
masterminds are like that because they're not strong enough to simply take what they want and need easy-to-manipulate strong people to do it. any mastermind shouldn't be end game material it should be whatever ogre they found to order around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300885
What if 5th stage bosses are actually the masterminds ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300878
It's not her fault she was born with bizarro emotions !

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300917
Sakuya: maybe. Remilia is childish so Sakuya can coax her into it.
Youmu: hardly. She can persuade Yuyuko with foods but Yuyuko is deep.
Reisen: absolutely not. Tewi is more believalble to be the mastermind behind the princess.
Sanae, absolutely not. She's not interest in Gensokyo until UFO.
Orin: maybe. She's evil and Okuu is stupid.
Shou: could be. She is the leader of the ship.
Futo: hardly. She's still dead before the event starts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300901
She was just staying true to her character. In reality, she really wanted to have tea with Reimoo.

[Anonymous No.]

This spell card is such a nightmare, with random bullets changing direction and speed (also randomly, I assume).
The image doesn't do it justics... but I cleared it once after 80 tries. I guess I'll just bomb it every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300941
>She was just staying true to her character. In reality, she really wanted to have tea with Reimoo.
So... Does that mean the fandom is going turn her into a tsundere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300944
Blue are homing, i think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300945
Her character profile describes her as someone who doesn't want to please other people, and she gets kicks out of doing the exact opposite of what people like. I guess that's too difficult for the fanbase and they'll just make her a tsundere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300959
noice, I was getting bored of Alice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300959
>Her character profile describes her as someone who doesn't want to please other people, and she gets kicks out of doing the exact opposite of what people like. I guess that's too difficult for the fanbase and they'll just make her a tsundere.
More like once she became a regular character, the other characters would troll her into doing things by reverse psychology. You know, like telling her "You are forbidden to join us at the tea party and have fun! Don't turn up!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300928
I wouldn't call her a master of mind, but Reisen is kinda responsible for IN due to everything she told Kaguya/Eirin about current moon events.

>Orin
>evil

Just... just read the SA story again. Seriously.

>Shou: could be. She is the leader of the ship.

You'd think a ship's leader is pretty easy to spot. They're called captains or something.

It's explicitly stated that Minamitsu was the driving force behind the Makai expedition, too.

[Anonymous No.]

Even Parsee isn't jealous about the new characters.

[Anonymous No.]

Miko`s desire

[Anonymous No.]

Trance is the best feature added to a Touhou game since the invention of grazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11301115
>Just... just read the SA story again. Seriously.
Orin is described as malicious in SoPM.

[Anonymous No.]

TD was prettier
the last boss of DDC wasn't that exciting

besides, TD had a whole group doing bad things
DCC it's like the last two bosses only

[Anonymous No.]

>>11300904
>>11300928
It's in her profile that Shou wished to save Byakuren for a long time but only actually tried to do so after Murasa and Ichirin escaped from the underground and came to her for help.

So if anything Ichirin and Murasa are therefore the ones who technically triggered the incident happening, even if they in turn were led on by the happenings of SA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11301906

Says the guy who hasn't 1cc'd a game on lunatic, played for score, or played any other STG seriously other than touhou

[Anonymous No.]

Did everyone here buy the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11302955
I wanted to, but then I read /jp/'s opinion and just pirated it. I don't want to support bad developers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11301906
It could have been so much better if there wasn't a fucking 10 second invincibility. Why not just make it like hypers? And on top of that, the game is pathetically easy as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11302925
lolwhat. Who hasn't 1cced all of the games on Lunatic? I can forgive you if you haven't 1cced HRtP, the rest of the games should have been done with the massive skill boost everybody got in 2011. 2005-2011 was pretty much everybody being shit tier until people understood how to play these games properly.

[Anonymous No.]

What.

Is ReimuB supposed to slow down when shooting?
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11302955
I did, ordered it before it came out, like I usually do. Bought the HM OST as well, along with albums and books from all my favorite artists.

Some stuff sold out though, so I'll have to make a second order now that a lot of stuff restocked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11303119
You might have auto-focus on. It's a setting that forces you into focus mode whenever you fire. You can change it in config.

[Anonymous No.]

I've never been a good touhou player but is DDC just harder in general? It feels like a huge increase in difficulty in the later stages. Doesn't help that I'm complete shit at death bombing also

[Anonymous No.]

>>11303817
The danmaku is harder, but you get so many resources that it's not particularly difficult if you're willing to spam bombs.

It's a pain in the ass to play without bombs though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296280
>DDC is any more challanging than TD
Sure, you can bomb spam/trance your way through all of the threatening bits in both games, but (as far as Lunatic goes) DDC has generally more difficult attacks and stage portions. Try capturing spells or playing without bombs and see for yourself. I'm not biased either, I dislike both TD and DDC equally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11296283
>2hu is shit since after pc-98
ftfy