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Why don't Japanese use Romaji in writing and save us the trouble?

>> No.11111573
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>> No.11111583

>>11111568
HOMOphones as an excuse

>> No.11111587
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Why don't we all just speak Lojban?

>> No.11111633

>>11111568
do your reps, bitch.

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>> No.11111710

>actually using iconographic written language instead of syllabic written language
>literally pictures for words so without a kanji recognition program there's no way to decifer a kanji

lowest peasant tier shit writing

>> No.11111752

>>11111710
Who are you quoting?

>> No.11111831

>>11111752
I'm using the meme feature. Can't you tell?

>> No.11111840

>>11111710
Then again, the british perverted their syllabic language to such an extent that you pretty much need to learn to pronounce each word individually anyway.

>> No.11111847

>>11111831
What is a meme?

>> No.11111903

>>11111573
I don't get it.

>> No.11111939

>>11111568
If you read the titles they add on e-hentai, you'll realize that looks awful.

>> No.11111962

Just learn basic Hiragana and you'll realize how terrible is Romaji. This shouldn't even be allowed to exist.

>> No.11111974

>>11111568
ほんとうに、おにいちゃんってばかー！

>> No.11111975

OP, I asked this same question here on /jp/
(except I wasn't quite as retarded and asked why they don't use hiragana and katakana and not use kanji)

and I got an answer which satisfied me so I'll share it with you
They said that Japanese was _intentionally_ made difficult to learn for outsiders, to preserve their culture.
Or something like that.

>> No.11112045

>>11111903
This
Can anyone explain?

>> No.11112091

>>11111903
>>11112045
I actually use that website to learn grammar. I've seen that comic there..

and I still don't get it.

>> No.11112114

>>11111903
>>11112045
>>11112091
I think it's twofold.

One: people misspell or mispronounce words because they sound similar to English, e.g. people calling it "romanji":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Japanese
>sometimes incorrectly transliterated as romanji or rōmanji.

Two: it's kind of ambiguous, especially with "o" vowel sounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C4%81puro_r%C5%8Dmaji#Phonetic_accuracy
(some systems, like Hepburn, use different but awkward-to-type characters to resolve this)

>> No.11112126

>>11111587
I'm learning that as well.
By the time I'm done I will know English, Japanese, and Lojban

>> No.11112131

>>11112126
the fuck is the last one, a dialect of klingon or some shit?

>> No.11112137

>>11112114
It is still bullshit.
I know how bad it would be to only use romaji, but if you stick to a proper romanization there is no real difference with kana. You just have to learn how to pronounce it properly, same for both.

>> No.11112146

>twitter kids get destroyed in the sticky
>make threads to lick their wounds

holy shit...!

>> No.11112154

>>11112131
It's a logical language. Designed to remove all grammatical ambiguity in speaking, and also to eliminate effects that natural languages have on your mind.

>> No.11112166

Why don't shitty old-fashioned countries start using the roman alphabet and change a couple of words so they'd make sense? It will be easier for everyone.

>> No.11112170

>>11112166
Because they don't want people to learn their language if they aren't willing to put in the effort.

It's a filter.

>> No.11112177

>>11112170

No, it's definitely not that. They're just lazy and stupid like humans tend to be.

>> No.11112184

>>11112137
Well, how do you distinguish between the different "o" sounds?

Hepburn has "o", "ou", and "ō".
Kana spelling has "o" and "ou", the latter can be "o + u" or a long o.

And people still disagree. Is it Gensokyo, Gensoukyou, or Gensōkyō?

>> No.11112196

>>11112194
Meant to quote
>>11112184

>> No.11112194

Make up new letters that have that certain sound, it's still easier than still using old alphabets.

>> No.11112208

>>11112194
Or you can use Hepburn. It doesn't make up new letters, it uses fairly standard diacritical marks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepburn_romanization#O_.2B_U

But really, who wants to write "Tōkyō" instead of "Tokyo"?

>> No.11112210

>>11112184
I don't see what's the problem here?
After learning it, I can clearly see how Gensōkyō is pronounced, whatever the system. Same goes for kana or kanji.
You just learn how to pronounce it, and the logic behind it. It's the same shit.

>> No.11112228

>>11112184
幻想郷 is げんそうきょう in Kana, Gensoukyou in Romaji, what's the problem?

>> No.11112289

>>11112210
The problem with Gensōkyō is typing it.

>>11112228
But is "ou" pronounced /ou/ (o + u) or /oː/ (long o)?

>> No.11112303

>>11112289
>But is "ou" pronounced /ou/ (o + u) or /oː/ (long o)?
Just like おう

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