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You're accumulating a lot of bad karma /jp/.

Repent now, or suffer for your sins in lives to come.

>> No.11068606,1 [INTERNAL] 

fuck u

>> No.11068622

But bad things happen to me all the time. Isn't that punishment enough?

>> No.11068625

How?

>> No.11068630
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The eightfold path will be your key to salvation /jp/.

>> No.11068631

Repent? Hell no, I'm having too much fun.

>> No.11068637

What am I doing wrong?

>> No.11068666
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>>11068622
No.

>>11068625
>>11068637
How much time have you spent meditating today?

Now go pray some sutras, and as always be mindful of the five precepts.

>> No.11068682

the problem with the 5 precepts is I am really good at breaking them. Like, its my job.

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relevant

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If you don't shape up /jp/ you'll be spending some time in one of the Buddhist hells.

We'll see how much you like that!

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>>11068727
I'm not buying it. I just told you that I enjoyed doing sins and you didn't even bother to give me a reply.
You didn't try to save me, so your karma is as bad as mine. I'll now post a lewd picture and continue to have lewd thoughts.

>> No.11068763

I don't know, I think I'm doing pretty okay.

Unless masturbation is a sin.

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This is hell. That's why nothing good ever happens to you.
Things that make you happy are only there so you can feel despair when they are taken away from you.

>> No.11068772

>>11068763
If you've taken Buddhist vows then anything sexual is off limits. Otherwise probably not, depending on which Buddhist you ask I guess.

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Compassion is the greatest of all virtues /jp/.

How can you have compassion for others, when you shut yourself off from them?

>> No.11068788

But I help people whenever I can... as long as it doesn't make me waste my free time.

And I indulge in Eiki pornography periodically, like clockwork.

>> No.11068796

>>11068786
Shutting myself off from them *is* an act of compassion. A beast most twisted and foul is not worthy of their company. I am not worthy of their company.

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>>11068796
You have no compassion for yourself then. You are not a beast.

Do no harm anon. Not to others, and not to yourself.

>> No.11068824

THe most vile energy emanating from this thread..

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I wonder if this manga is any good.

It was good enough to be made into an OVA, wasn't it?

Also isn't there a manga about Buddha's life?

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>> No.11068881

>>11068771
You sound like a shitty teenager.

>> No.11068878

>>11068867
>Also isn't there a manga about Buddha's life?
Yup, by Tezuka. He also did one about Hitler.

>> No.11068886

>>11068874
translit it weebs

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Yama pls

>> No.11069428

>>11068666
Sutras? Five precepts?

>> No.11069433

Meh.

If I was reborn as a fly I'd be perfectly happy cuz I peek on girls

I think me rampant pedophilia is punishment enough for my sins

>> No.11070023

Bad karma is a direct result of increased shitposting on /jp/. To truly repent for your sins we must instead shitpost on /v/ instead.

>> No.11070225

>>11069433
Wouldn't be that bad either, what with the horribly short lifespan of a fly

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I thought Buddhists were supposed to be easy going and enlightened as fug?

>> No.11070236

>Sins
>Hell

Shinto Buddhism really got fucked up when those Christian missionaries came in.

Why do they still practice a belief that has been so polluted by a foreign religion?

>> No.11070265

>>11069433
Wouldn't your vision be all fucked up, though?

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>>11070236
>Shinto Buddhism

Shinto and Buddhism are two entirely different religions retard.

And sin and hell were Buddhist concepts long before the Jesuits showed up.

Fuck's sake you're one of those dipshits who think that Buddhism is a "philosophy not a religion" right?

Fuck.

>> No.11071773

>>11071731
Calling them two different religions doesn't seem quite accurate, they've been put through the blender so many times by theologians and the government...

>> No.11071779

>>11069178
I always liked this picture. For all her judgments of others, Yamaxanadu is still a person who thinks and feels.

I also like to believe she has no hatred or prejudice in her heart. Her judgements are objective.

>> No.11071786

>>11071731
>Fuck's sake you're one of those dipshits who think that Buddhism is a "philosophy not a religion" right?

I really don't understand where this whole idea came from. I mean, sure, secularists can live according to Buddhist principles without actually believing in karma or the afterlife or anything, but that can be done with any religion. Slavoj Žižek calls himself a materialist Christian because he lives according to Christian principles even though he doesn't believe in the supernatural. That doesn't make Christianity any less of a religion.

>> No.11071787

>>11071779
My sentiments exactly.

>> No.11071793

>>11071773
>Calling them two different religions doesn't seem quite accurate, they've been put through the blender so many times by theologians and the government...

Yes but the Japanese have also made a point of drawing a distinction between the two, even if they've strongly influenced each other historically.

>> No.11071811

>>11068727
>Buddhist hells
Existence in 3 dimensions IS hell. You are experiencing it.

People hear the phrase "go to hell" and often consider what it means, whether it's an actual place, or if it's a scary thing made up to indoctrinate people. But you are actually in hell, it's your job to find the out.

If you've played DMC and seen the movie Constantine, you can get a good idea about what it looks like, the closer you fall in to it. Seeing it is on the precipice of visual perception which that movie got really accurate. Limbo mode in DMC is the same thing.

>> No.11071813

>>11071793
Some movements have, but at least as many have tried to convince the rulers, people etc that the other is just an inferior or hazy version of their own teachings. Eg all the fuss over whether kami were emanations of buddhas or buddhas were blossoms of kami...something like that, anyway. I'd say Buddhism has exerted the much stronger influence, with all the association with glorious China, rich theological tradition, comforting stuff about how your dead parents are doing. The government before Meiji was definitely interested in making Buddhism more important, stuff like classifying kami as devas.

>> No.11071832

>>11071813
Well at any rate I wonder what's so okay about Buddhism influencing the native Japanese faith when any sort of Christian influence is "pollution."

Fucking trendy white kid pop Orientalist weeaboo hipster pseudo Buddhists.

>> No.11071852

>>11071832
My understanding was that Christianity was okay, although the teachings on homosexuality and a few other things could cause problems. The main issue arose when someone (I THINK Nobunaga) realised that Christian monotheism sounded a lot like the single-focus (one sutra, or one boddhisattva) Buddhist sects of warrior monks and peasant collectives, which he was having a hell of a time suppressing. Obviously he didn't want MORE religious fanatics screaming about his injustness.

>> No.11071860

>>11071832
Because Buddhists were a very military power by the time Christianity reached them. They didn't want a group based religion messing up the minds of the faithful, you see.

IIRC, it took Nobunaga to take them down a few notches. Very bloody battle.

>> No.11071883

>>11071860
So...Nobunaga as the great liberating hero, destroying those evil peasants who didn't want to live under a feudal lord?

>> No.11071885

>>11071852
>teachings on homosexuality
What teachings?

>> No.11071894

>>11071885
The Hebrew Bible (what Christians call the Old Testament) explicitly forbids homosexuality.

>> No.11071897

>>11071883
No, he killed the buddhists because he saw them as a threat. He killed all those in his way.

Ever wonder why he is so often used as an evil character in media?

>> No.11071920

I'm a bit iffy on my Japanese history here, it was Nobunaga who finally broke the power of the Buddhist warlord temples?

>> No.11071921

>>11071883
Nobunaga a hero? The hell are you talking about?
He was a badass, but he was still a dick.

>> No.11071916

>>11071885
My teacher told us that when we were reading stuff by the missionaries, if they ever used the word "abominable" they were probably talking about men putting their penis in another man.

>> No.11071927 [DELETED] 

>>11071921
Give your sarcasm-detection model a kick, maybe reboot your system.

>> No.11071932

>>11071921
Give your sarcasm module a kick, maybe reboot your system.

>> No.11071929

>>11071916
Well, homosexuality WAS rampant in ole Japan. What with the groupes of performers/male harlots, the ladyboys and so on and so forth.

Heck, even the posters to boost morale during the Russia-Japan war depicted russian soldiers being ass raped by Japanese soldiers. Lewd.

>> No.11071935

>>11071894
>The Hebrew Bible
And. What does that have to do with Christ?

>>11071916
>My teacher told us that when we were reading stuff by the missionaries, if they ever used the word "abominable" they were probably talking about men putting their penis in another man.
Or snowmen.

New testament = Christ
Old testament = History and explanation of Judaism

>> No.11071934

>>11071921
>He was a badass, but he was still a dick.

Those traits go hand in hand quite often.

>> No.11071942

>>11071929
That war WAS a bit later...but yeah, and it ties in with a lot of the Buddhist ideas about women being spiritually inferior and polluting. Rampant among the bushi and monks, and the merchants seem to have copied them.

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>>11071935
Yeah, but people hold it as still valid.

Nevermind that Jesus saved the servant/lover of a centurion after he begged Jesus to heal him.

>> No.11071952

>>11071935
>And. What does that have to do with Christ?

Christians still place a lot of emphasis on the teachings of the Hebrew Bible. Jesus himself was a Jew after all.

Granted some Christians place much more emphasis on the Hebrew Bible than others. Specifically the Evangelicals, who are Biblical literalists. Hence Creationism and all that.

Biblical literalism is a relatively new development in Christianity. The precedent for Christians not taking everything the Bible says literally goes back at least to the fourth century when Augustine of Hippo said that was a dumb idea.

FYI anyway

>> No.11071956

>>11071920
throw me a bone here /jp/

>> No.11071964

>>11071956
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mount_Hiei

>> No.11071967

>>11071956
Yeah, but then he imposed his own brand of warlods. He sought to separate state from religion, even if he had to behead a few thousands in the process.

>> No.11071971

>>11071942
>That war WAS a bit later...but yeah, and it ties in with a lot of the Buddhist ideas about women being spiritually inferior and polluting.

Mhmm. What with suffering from the five hindrances.

>> No.11071993

>>11071987
8. Take a swig for every dumb pun and misunderstanding on the part of Yoshinaka. Two swigs if the author calls him boorish (but fuck the author, Yoshinaka is awesome.)

9. A sip for every poem. A swig for each reply to previously mentioned poems. Another swig if the poem earns its composer some ridiculous sobriquet (Who-gives-a-shit Chamberlain is especially notable.)

10. A sip for every exile. A swig if the process of escorting the exile is given vast amounts of unnecessary detail, two swigs every time we get back to the lives of previously exiled people.

11. Take a sip for every miracle. Twice if it was prayed for beforehand (in Japan you can order and pay for miracles.) Thrice if the god personally appears or possesses a spirit medium and names his price.

12. A sip for every time a precedent is mentioned. Twice if the author notes that a new precedent has been set and that it's a terrible event that has upset the court. A swig if the precedent in question is explained in full detail, two swigs if the precedent was from China.

13. Down the whole bottle and stop for the day after the battles where Genji completely crushes the Heike forces. Kurikara, Ichi-no-Tani, Dan-no-Ura.

>> No.11071994

>>11071987
Shut the FUCK up, Shii.

>> No.11071987

I love Japanese culture/religion/history threads. Here, let me share the Heike Monogatari drinking game with you.

1. Take a sip whenever a man cries, twice if he cries so much that his tears wet the sleeves of his robes. Take a swig if a large group of men are crying and their tears all wet their sleeves.

2. Take a sip whenever a samurai (or a concubine) becomes a monk (or a nun.) Twice if he threatens to be a monk as a bluff but goes back on it.

3. Take a swig whenever the Emperor does something "most awesomely" (such awesome acts include writing poems, shedding tears or giving the rank of a prestigious courtesan to a damn bird, complete with the yearly salary of some ridiculous amount of rice.)

4. Take a sip whenever someone drowns. Upgrade to a swig if people drown en masse and to a shooter if it's because of their own stupidity (Let's attack those boats on our horses! We cannot lose, the Emperor favors us!)

5. A swig whenever Kiyomori loses it and decides to wreck the Imperial family's shit. A shooter whenever he actually does it.

6. A swig whenever the author complains about how the days of Buddhist law are ending and how the world has become corrupt.

7. A sip whenever civilian houses (and the civilians inside them) are burned to begin a confrontation. A swig if a temple is burned in the process and the monks go crazy over it.

>> No.11072006

>>11071971
"Maladies that afflict the female mind are: indocility, discontent, slander, jealousy and silliness. Without any doubt, these five maladies infest sever or eight out of every ten women, and it is from these that arises the inferiority of women to men"

From Tokugawa period.

>> No.11072011

>>11071952
Indoctrinated Christians take it literally and focus on the old testament. It's sad that Catholicism is both the saviour and the enslaver at the same time.

>> No.11072076

Oda Nobunaga gets to be the bad guy in lots of Japanese media but not Taira no Kiyomorii.

And What's up with that?

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>>11068630
This.
Even Yama can't send Stream-enterer to hell and arahat is unfindable for her.

>>11071832
Buddhism and Shinto complement each other nicely and weren't excluding each other in principle, which cannot be said about Christianity or any other Semitic religion.

>>11071894
It's in The New Testament too. AFAIK St. Mark said that in one of his letters.

>> No.11072143

>>11072096
If you're including all the different regions of Buddhism, it's only fair to include all of Christianity as well...in some of them Gautama is a saint. Religion is so full of BS that it can accommodate just about ANYTHING new if it sees advantage in doing so.

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