/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Love Carnival in my ass

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So I live on modern earth. Still.

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Fragments of Time in my ass

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>>11039693
That's what you get for playing "slice of life" VNs.

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>>11039695
It was an incest impregnation nukige

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>>11039703
Well, you occupy the same physical space as those kawaii bishoujos.

Go get 'em, tiger.

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True remembrance

If only...

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>Katawa Shoujo
>effectively, I'm back in high school

NO

NO

NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONONONONONO

... on the other hand, I could take a crack at Yuuko.

YES. YES. YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES

>shit VN you westaboo pig, get taste

working on it, fellas, working on it

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I'm on a slightly supernatural Earth. Fantastic.

I think I'll just turn a blind eye to the other idiocy in this thread.

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>>11039764
>>>/v/

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>Ai Suru Musuko no Shitsukekata

Could be worse

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Cool, I guess.

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>>11039788
Why do you talk about "them" like you aren't one of them?

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>>11039764
Instead of working on it, kill yourself instead.

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I re-read FS/N recently. I can now satisfy my chuuni fantasies! Fuck year!

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>>11039770

The fandom of that game is so horrible I won't even contest that. I don't want them here, either.

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>>11039788

We don't want anyone on /jp/, pls leave.

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>>11039688
This is just disgusting.
Never post like this again.

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>>11039786
>kill self
>Yama tells me to get the fuck out of her afterlife

There is truly no escape for me.

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>>11039788
But you are one of them. This is self-evident from your posting style.

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He's just trolling because he objects to the format of the OP. But instead of voicing that objection directly he's putting on a fancy dog and pony show for us. It's too over-the-top to be anything else.

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>>11039808
If that's true, I admit he is high leveled.

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>>11039790

Because I'm not.

If you have the stomach, check out the Katawa Shoujo threads on /vg/ sometime. They literally have nothing to do with the actual fucking game. Its a self-perpetuating community that powers itself off of things people that were attracted to the game have in common, and since it was a /v/ project to begin with... and the majority of people are horrible... oh, jesus, christ.

The game itself actually wasn't that bad; in fact much of the writing was surprisingly mature; but the people who make up the "4chan community" about it are just... I don't know which fandom would be the best analogy. Not even ponies. Nothing really matches the disconnect between the source work and what the actual community revolves around.

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>>11039801
>posting style

You mean "misusing the quote feature?"

This is why I love /jp/. I always laugh at those posts, the faux-serious-autist-policing-4chan... but sometimes, you slow down and think, "is it possible that there's actually people that autistic? That actually mean that in all seriousness?" And the best part is, even if 90% of people are playing it for laughs, there has to be at least a few serious autists that really believe it.

/jp/ is always going to be fun, but you never know exactly how. It's actually one of the better boards on 4chan because of this.

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>>11039822
>since it was a /v/ project to begin with

Crazy Anon trying to rewrite history again.

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>>11039822
>The game itself actually wasn't that bad; in fact much of the writing was surprisingly mature

The writing was really bad. It was all over the place and the majority of it pretended to be "Japanese-like" (weeaboo) but then it turned to a Western style. The same applies to the plot elements, characters and places.

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>>11039841
This. The main problems are that they were trying to write in a Japanese-translated-to-English style ("Some people might say, 'It can't be helped', but then there's that guy? Even at a time like this?!") and that the writers clearly had no coordination. The MC acted one way in one route and a completely different way in another, because they were handled by different authors.

It's really a shame. I like the art and music, and a few of the routes, but the lack of coordination ruined it.

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>>11039833
I mean being a clown in general, as evidenced by these quality posts:
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>>11039867
It would have been far more interesting and refreshing to read a VN with no connection to Japan.

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>>11039822
just to humor myself i popped on over to /vg/ a while back and their KS general was on the 1200th~ thread
thats pretty fucking sad, I mean /jp/ is too but that doesn't even compare

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>>11039867
>This. The main problems are that they were trying to write in a Japanese-translated-to-English style

That could throw you off sometimes, yeah.

>The MC acted one way in one route and a completely different way in another

Exactly as he fucking should! Like personalities tend to attract, so depending on which girl the lead ended up going for, his personality in that route was written to make the relationship make sense. That's one of the things I really liked about it. If you don't believe me, consider the event where Hiaso receives a letter from Iwakeno (or whatever she's called;) this event happens in every route, and his reaction to it in every route is different. That's deliberate, a single touchstone that you can directly compare from route-to-route. The story choices are actually about defining who Hiaso is as a character; which makes a lot more sense then some VNs where its treated as an odds/analysis game, play your cards right and win the waifu.

It def. doesn't read like a Japanese VN, but that's entirely due to cultural gap; some things just don't, and probably never will translate well. By filthy weeaboo gaijin, for weeaboo gaijin: it is what it is, I don't hold that against it.

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Oh, it wasn't a /v/ project? That'd explain a lot, I always wondered how /v/ of all places managed to do so well and actually follow through.

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>>11039898
just to add their bioshock infinite threads were in the 150~ range
I can't even fathom how you have a general about a 10 hour game

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>>11039882
>quality

11/10, you're pretty good.

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Kagetsu Tohya on Colombia.

Shiki can deal coke discuss.

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>>11039901
>Exactly as he fucking should! Like personalities tend to attract, so depending on which girl the lead ended up going for, his personality in that route was written to make the relationship make sense.

It's nothing like this. MCs should have a standard personality and set of values even between different routes, otherwise they become paper-men. You can't be a pussy-ass bitch in one scene and a "fuck you gurl I dun give a shit bout you" in the next.

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>>11039890
>It would have been far more interesting and refreshing to read a VN with no connection to Japan.

Heartily agreed. America, Europe, Australia, Russia, China - it's a big world out there, and there's plenty of stories worth telling in all those places.

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>>11039901
>Like personalities tend to attract, so depending on which girl the lead ended up going for, his personality in that route was written to make the relationship make sense.

But then he's not the same person. And the style of writing was different, which is jarring.

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Meh, could be worse.

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>>11039917

But if they're the same man in every route, then it's kind of hard to make relationships with several different kinds of girls work - certain personalities just aren't going to mesh that well. The only real options are to skimp on characterization and get the "route" established very quickly (which is what KS essentially does) or establish some strong, basic traits of the lead character, and have the rest of his personality determined specific to each route (which is very hard to do and requires some real finesse and skill from the writer - multiple writers could probably never pull it off.)

>You can't be a pussy-ass bitch in one scene and a "fuck you gurl I dun give a shit bout you" in the next.

You're conflating scene-to-scene with route-to-route. Each route is effectively its own story, and no two can co-exist - literally divergent realities. But, you do make a good point - that's exactly why a romance-route based VN needs to diverge very quickly into a "route," lest you get consistent characterization through 40% of the game and then suddenly get "I actually like X type of girl to the exclusion of others."

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>>11039925
>not the same person

That's the entire point - and why the lead's personality remains mostly undefined until the choice that launches a specific route. You might not notice it per-se, but the whole early part of the story is "Hiaso's life took a huge shit on him and this made him depressed and bummed out," which would be true of damn near anybody in his position.

You don't HAVE to do that, though - some VNs tell a much more subtle kind of tale where there's just one "story," and the story is more about how very simple choices and twists of fate can lead to very different outcomes. But that's a much more subtle and pernicious kind of tale, and it takes a lot of skill to pull off well.

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>>11039934
>certain personalities just aren't going to mesh that well
Actually if you had read any VNs apart from KS you would know that it's very easy to do with proper writing. And relationships depend on a lot more things that "personality compatibility". Good writers regularly make it happen.

>You're conflating scene-to-scene with route-to-route

No I'm not. The writing was bad an inconsistent in-route.

>>11039945
>That's the entire point - and why the lead's personality remains mostly undefined until the choice that launches a specific route.

That's a poor way to write a character, and no good writer does it.

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>>11039931
Nah, I personally think MLA is as bad as it gets.

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>>11039960
>Actually if you had read any VNs apart from KS you would know that it's very easy to do with proper writing.

No, it's not. In those VNs the personalities of all people involved are within the "plausible relationship" threshold; which is why you have one "story" with multiple possible outcomes, and the impacts of each choice are usually a lot more subtle. That subtlety requires the greater skill. I'm not surprised that KS didn't do this, because they were amateurs, and with one writer making each "route" the co-ordination would have been damn near impossible. What KS is, is about as good as it could have been given how it was made.

It's no surprise that people who've played the real good ones produced by the masters of the genre look down on it, when you consider that.

>And relationships depend on a lot more things that "personality compatibility".

Like what, exactly? I've done a lot of writing myself; over 200 pages worth in one of my stories alone; and I've read my fair share of published authors and even those same authors advice on writing, and I don't know of many who would agree with you on that.

If you mean "viable romantic relationship" however, then yes, you're entirely correct - the wrong event at the wrong time, or the right one at the right time can make all the difference. Momentum is crucial in a relationship, after all. Those are usually the devices VN authors use to tilt things one way or another.

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Katawa shoujo kusoge

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I call these threads 'smart shitposts.'

They're bad enough to contribute to the ruining of the board, but the janitor would probably get in trouble for deleting them.

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I'd be pretty fucked since the last VN I played was Umineko.

Fuck the witches. Fuck magic.

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>>11039997
>all people involved are within the "plausible relationship"

Not really. Seriously, read more shit before making generalizations.

>Like what, exactly?

Circumstance, mental bonding through encountering common situations, physical attraction (yes, it can compensate for personality friction) and a multitude of other things.

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So I live on modern earth, only there are also unaging lolis.

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>>11040032
Actually, nothing would happen to you.

Since witches don't exist, and we are in 2013. Rokkeijima now must be a giant resort. [\spoiler]

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>>11040029
They are called "thinly veiled recommendation thread" in others boards, if I can recall correctly. Im glad that the only /jp/'s approved VN is Katawa Shoujo.

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>>11040086

"Im" awful suspicious of the fact that you seem to know a fucking lot about other boards.

How about you go back to them?

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so it's basically just a normal ass world where an evil council presides over everything, how would that change anything

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>>11040029
I copied this from a a /tv/ thread ("Last film...").

I can't believe it has lasted this long, especially compared to some of the threads I've had deleted.

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>>11040029
After all the dumb shitposts and the unintentionally shitty posts about which 2hu u wud fuk, it's a refreshing breath of fresh air.

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>>11040145
Well, yes, because you took out of the off-topic part and replaced it with an on-topic part. You can do this with any thread from any board and get away with it. I don't understand why you consider this some sort of achievement.

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How the fuck am I not thrown from Yamaku? I'm in fucking college AND not a cripple!

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>>11039945
That's not how VNs work.

Your personality is pretty much set in stone from your teenage years (psychology agrees, don't bother them about it). You might have some choices to make, and those are the choices laid upon the player. But you're not going to be a different person if you decided to go with girl X instead of girl Y, and your thoughts aren't going to be in a vastly different tone.

If they wanted to try something different with the format, that's fine. But it just doesn't work. The character sleeping with Shizune is like a parallel universe version of the character sleeping with Emi, and I just can't relate to him that way. His decisions haven't just changed, his entire personality has, based solely on which girl he decided to settle with.

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>>11040158
You'd be surprised. I've taken plenty of off-board threads, given them a Touhou/VN spin, and had them deleted, because the janitor apparently thinks such-and-such a thread is good enough for /co/, but not good enough for /jp/.

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I wish someone would make a big image of an anime girl making a silly face with text captioned reading "EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS DUMB"

I'd use it a lot, especially in this thread. Someone please make it for me.

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>>11039934
Like other people said, you really need to play more VN before saying this shit.

Take White Album 2 for example (since I read that one recently): the protagonist has a very well-defined personality, and a very extreme one, that remains the same throughout the routes and his relationships with different girls work perfectly fine. The key is that the relationship dynamics are different in each route. That's how it's done with a good writer: the relationships between the protagonist and heroine change from route to route, not the protagonist himself.

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ks devs get out

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The last vn I played only had gay dudes, can I just live in the universe and not have the gay dudes in it?

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This is me and you. Me on the left.

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>>11040283
Obviously you're the one on the right Trevor, all you do is get owned.

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>>11039688
>DiviDead
I'd probably die horribly.

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Does Imouto Paradise 2 count as a VN?

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>>11040180
The janitor here has no say in what goes on there, and the janitor there has no say in what goes on here.

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>>11040351
No wait, fuck that. I'll bust this shit wide open. I'll be a goddamned hero while I smoke a blunt from the balcony of my dorm, and then I'll die horribly.