STG/Touhou

[Anonymous No.]

Old thread:
>>10946176

The usual. Chat with fellow players, ask for help on problematic spots, blog about your progress. Share scoring strategies.

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Streams: http://stgrillz.appspot.com/

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Keeping up the old challenges for now since the old thread passed by so swiftly.

Scoring challenge: Score in DDC Normal/Lunatic
1. Every shot-type is welcome
2. The run must be done within the thread, no old scores.
3. Replays or screenshots will be required for posts with scores.


Special challenge: Gather as many lives as you can in DDC Normal as quickly as possible
1. All shots welcome
2. Replays required for submissions
4. The runs will be ranked by amount of lives > progress done in the game.

You have time for until this thread ends (i.e. it hits the bump limit)!

[Anonymous No.]

>Streams: http://stgrillz.appspot.com/
>bjw_ streaming Mega Man X2

What the fuck?

This nerd is advertising a non-STG stream and he's getting away with it. Even if he plays Touhou soon, this link will be on the front pages for the hundreds of hours he's playing Metroid or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you advertising a stream that has nothing to do with STGs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959155,1
are you a bad enough bruh to do something about it

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>>10959194,1
I would be if I wasn't muted into the stratosphere for posting a greentext story in an off-topic thread.

[Anonymous No.]

GAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959155
>Keeping up the old challenges
>>10959229
>GAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>10959296
>imblyyyyinng

[Anonymous No.]

Let's get started. I can't into DCC scoring but I will post it anyway.
Also, this should qualify for the second challenge - I maxed on lives after fight with Kagerou. Sp where else can I upload replay beside gensokyo.org?

[Anonymous No.]

Let's get started. I can't into DDC scoring but I will post it anyway.
Also, this should qualify for the second challenge - I maxed on lives after fight with Kagerou. So where else can I upload replay beside gensokyo.org?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960185
I really don't like Reimu's bombs for scoring. B deals too much damage and A confuses the fuck out of me as to how to properly use it.

[Anonymous No.]

Normal scoring 161 million.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, please. I've been trying to figure out why this isn't working for DAYS now. Please help me out?

I got rid of the chinese characters in the directory. Just what do I do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960959

Try to remove every single chinese character there is. Rename the folder to "th14" and change the web link so that there are no more characters ever.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't even clear easy mode on any of the games. How the fuck do I get better at this?
Been practicing for weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10961086
Practice for more weeks.

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>>10960959

Same guy here. I finally figured out what the problem was. Thanks for your help, >>10960988

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>>10961101
>>10961086
Also I've gotten worse as I try more. Should I just quit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10961124
Only quit if you're not having fun and you feel like you're forcing yourself to play. If you keep playing you will eventually get better though.

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>>10961086
Have you gotten any better compared to what you were at say 2 or 3 weeks ago?

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>>10961154
Is there some kind of other strategy besides dodge bullets, shoot targets, get power ups?
I feel like I'm missing something.

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>>10961124
You can quit after at least 2 years or more.

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>>10961124

I do the same, just take an hour break or so and you'll be fine.

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>>10961159
Went from dying and using all continues by stage 3, to dying 1-2 times by stage 4 on normal.
Now I can't beat easy without using a continue or 2; let alone beating normal.

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>>10961086
You're just practicing wrong.

Something idiots fall into is thinking "if I play more I'll get better". And don't actually attempt to get better. They don't reflect on their failures, don't try to work on what they're actually lacking, and fail to actually plan for anything the game throws at them despite butting their heads into it repeatedly.

If you can't even clear easy mode, then that means you're getting hit by bullets.

Slow and sparse ones in comparison to the ones on higher difficulty. You probably move around needlessly and make spastic twitchy dodges. Your primary instinct is probably to dodge, not go through gaps. You probably waste bombs.

Also, you ask an incredibly vague question that indicates you haven't thought about it at all yourself.

"How the fuck do I get better at this?"

By learning to not suck. I'm not saying that to insult you. That's literally the answer to that vague question. If you die, learn/figure out how to not suck/die where you do. That's the most basic gist of survival.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an (official) encyclopedia/dictionary of bullet hell techniques? I feel like it generally just lingo.

Most popular is probably "streaming", where you nudge across the screen in one direction to graze homing bullets while leaving yourself plenty of room to dodge.

Another is "baiting", where you switch over quickly to one side to "bait" a line of homing bullets before quickly moving to your original location.

Seriously, there must some library of this.

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>>10961325
>Another is "baiting", where you switch over quickly to one side to "bait" a line of homing bullets before quickly moving to your original location.

I don't think I've ever heard misdirection called that.

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9665

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>>10961335
Thanks for the link. But how acceptable is that glossary? For all I know, it could be just one guy making up his own terms, like me.

[Anonymous No.]

Now left hand positioning has been asked a few times here, but what about your right hand positioning?

Currently I use my middle (sometimes index) finger to press the down key, alternating between the up (or left) key, but lately I'm feeling delays, especially when doing circular movements. I wonder if using the middle finger joints is actually better?

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>>10961359
I did not look at every one but it looks like all terms people actually use or understand.

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>>10961470
I use the side of my thumb for down arrow.

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>>10961477
Well, he calls misdirection "jerk" and puts jerk and streaming under a category called "herding". First time I've heard either.

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>>10961483
That sounds really uncomfortable.

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>>10961485
I've seen bullet herding often enough.

[Anonymous No.]

How I see it:

Misdirection/Herding - Using your movement (or lack of movement) to direct a burst of bullets to make dodging easier, for graze, for cancelling, etc.

Streaming - What you know it as. Related to "herding" in that it's somewhat like long-term microherding.

Cutback/Jerk - A sudden movement while streaming to create a hole for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow I actually beat Koishi with three lives on Normal in SA, seeing improvement is fun. The only other time I beat her was when I barely won with one life and death bombing the entire time but practicing her stage about 30 or 40 times I was finally able to keep up with her last spell card for the most part. I missed about four life pieces through my run so I might've gotten farther in the fight with Orin but oh well. Now that I've seen her stage I know what to expect instead of like the last run.

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>>10961532
I wouldn't lump misdirection and herding together. As a counterexample, consider midboss Youmu's non. The way this is typically dodged might be described as misdirection, but definitely not herding.

Pro tip: all the words mean exactly what they mean in standard English, applied to bullets. yes, even streaming

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>>10962097
Do you mean Satori? SA stage 4 right?
Orin is hell, though. Don't feel bad if you take a long time getting past her.

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>>10962124
Nyaa!

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>>10962124
Ah yeah I thought I typed Satori and not Koishi, I've been stuck at Satori for so many months that I wont mind that much. I really want SA to be the first game that I clear because I just find it so damn fun.

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>>10962124
>>10962142
It was my first too, I never get bored of playing SA.
If Orin is way to hard and you really want to go through her fast you can clear her stage without shooting, it's a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10960185
royalflare
http://moriya.ca/threp/
any file hosting site

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>>10962124
Eh, I found Orin to be rather simple. Appart from her midboss spellcard, and that spellcard where she sends those whirling blue-white shit it's really straightforward.

Okuu is a major bitch. Her spellcards are unfunny, dialog is boring and music is bad. SA's earlier stage are much more fun.

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>>10962254
I think Okuu is HILARIOUS

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>>10962254
Really? Okuu's theme is one of my favorites in the entire series.

[tali !!ocVZbi+qjEr No.]

Thanks for your help in one of the earlier threads. Helped me a lot in progressing, even if I think I am still far away from beating it Imperishable Night on Extra.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I seriously supposed to bomb my way through stage 4 hard in EoSD? I can barely get to Patchy even if I make it with 5 lives
>>10962254
Nuclear Fusion is my favorite theme, I don't know how you can think it's bad

[Anonymous No.]

I managed to get to SA stage 5 on my very first Hard playthrough! I feel so proud, even though I know I shouldn't be.

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>>10962490
With or without continues?

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>>10962495
Without continue. I died at Orin though, as expected.

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>>10962498
I meant continued at Orin.

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>>10962498
That's pretty good though, keep progressing

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962142
You may want to try out the boss rush patch for SA, where Satori uses all of her spellcards for all the shot types one after another, all in one fight.
So instead of 4 you'll be dodging 17.

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>>10962244
>royalflare

Do they even accept gaijin replays?

[Anonymous No.]

How do I teach myself to start bombing. I always die instead of bombing and end up having to continue with anywhere between 5 and 7 bombs.

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>>10962596
Practice, practice, practice. Eventually you'll get the deathwindow down so you only bomb when you really have to. Just remember that it shortens (or is that only in EoSD?) every time you do it

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>>10962596
If you think you're about to get hit, use a bomb. There's also a few frames after getting hit where you can still use a bomb.

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>>10962596
How about instead of bombing you teach yourself how to dodge and not get hit in the first place?

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>>10961196
What if I'm trying really hard to fix my mistakes and actually improve, but not really improving anyway? I've been stuck trying to chain 1-3 in DOJBL for the past six months, even after studying superplays, making notes of where I'm fucking up, and actively trying to fix the mistakes. I actually wrote down all of my problem spots in notepad in an attempt to get it down.

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>>10962604
Ooh, look at this big shot survival player. He's so cool.

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>>10962649
I actually thought he was pretty cool.

[sage No.]

>>10962623
I haven't played DOJBL, but you might just be aiming for a goal that's too difficult at your current skill level. Go 1-all some other games or something for a while, then come back to it.

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>>10962432

No, you're not. First wave of faeries, focus and try to kill as many of one side that come down as possible, then you'll have less kunai to worry about. First wave of spokes, move from one side of the screen to other to make sure bullets go in one direction. Second wave do the same. The next part is obvious until the books that shoot green bullets. There's no real method to it, but you can make your life easier by staying in one spot for as long as possible and firing at a book,. Just remember the bullets are dense, keep an eye on which ones are likely to cluster and trap you. The next part is Koakuma. Try to see only the purple centres of the large bullets since that's where the hitbox is, the white part won't harm you. It is possible to get completely trapped by kunai here, if you are, just bomb. The next part with the books that shoot blue bullets can also be difficult. What I do is to stay on the left side and fire at the book and destroy it as quick as possible, so then I've only got one stream of blue bullets to worry about. If you do that, the lasers become easy. Finally, the waves of spokes. These are pretty easy, just remember that the bullets are targeted and to direct them and then move and that you can use the top of the screen as well as the bottom, and you should be OK. The rest of the Stage is pretty easy. Stage 4 is all about preparation and making life easy for yourself, do a lot of practice runs and it will become second nature.

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>>10962673
That could be. I've had that problem plenty of times before in IIDX, mostly playing songs that are way above my level and it ends up being mindless panic mash and flailing the turntable all over the place.

I'll try going back and playing something more simple. Maybe DoDonPachi or something. Judging by what I've been doing in 1-5 of DOJBL, I don't think I'd even be able to 1-ALL it. Went no bomb no hyper in practice mode and used about thirty or so lives before the 1-5 DDP midboss alone.

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>>10962705
Alright, thank you very much

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>>10962710
1-5 is actually not all that bad once you get used to it. As long as you kill things quickly, there's always room to dodge.

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>>10962717

You're welcome. Just remember to keep one step ahead, the spokes can often block access to the side of the screen you want to be on with their bullets if you forget to direct them properly. Also, try to get aggressive, Stage 4 can be a nightmare for people not comfortable higher up on the screen, but there will be times when you need to use that space.

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>>10962723
The part that took most of my lives is the part after the boxing match with the 1-4 midboss. Those turrets and spinny guys were just murdering me. I'll need to make note of where they come from so I can kill them as soon as possible.

I think that in total, my death count was probably in the triple digits. It really feels like a long stage each time I reach it in a real (bomb spam with A-S) run. Furthest I've ever made it is past the 1-5 midboss in that stage.

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>>10962738
The spokes are usually the worst part for me, I'll try your advice

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>>10962755

Really? They're the easiest for me because they have targeted bullets. If they're really bothering you, you can go to one side of the screen and focus whilst shooting, that way you'll kill a fair that won't even get the chance to at you before the other side's bullets force you to move.

[Anonymous No.]

I'v been playing a year now and only games I'v 1cc'd on normal are IN and MoF.
Why am I a bad player, /jp/?
Is it something you're born with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962783
get good shmup fundamentals

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962783

if you are using a keyboard use a pad. if you are using a pad, use a keyboard.

Either way, you can't get good at shmups if you aren't planning your runs.

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>>10962812
>Either way, you can't get good at shmups if you aren't planning your runs.
That's the only way I can 1cc anything in the first place. I can't play for shit, I can only memo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10962783
Practice. One year doesn't mean anything if you don't practice.

But yes, you're probably just bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, time to PLAY TH14 FOR SCORE!

...goddamnit, I'm dying trying to border collect things.

Wait a sec, I'm SakuyaA, I can make the bombs come to me!

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>>10962744
The part's hard. It helps me to do it unfocused except while killing the big popup turrets and sweep aggressively at midscreen. I can't chain it for shit though.

[Anonymous No.]

Ugh Firefly Phenomenon too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

touhou wine mouse frozen after quitting pls where to get help

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>>10962124
>Orin is hell

heh

[Anonymous No.]

I still don't see how IN is considered the easiest Touhou game, Marisa and her stage in general always rocks my shit off and I think I've captured like one spell card from her ever. If on the rare occasion that I make it past Marisa I can beat Reisen but that almost never happens.

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>>10963779
Stage 5 is easy, Reisen is a gimmick, Stage 6 is easy, Kaguya is pathetically easy (outside of her last words).

If you beat Marisa with 4+ lives it's practically a free 1cc.

My advice is to simply practice stage 4, and spell practice any of her spells you may have trouble with. You'll find the gimmicky spells like stardust reverie and earth-light-ray are very simple once you learn the patterns.

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>>10963779
Everybody says that DDP is piss easy garbage that even a one armed down syndrome monkey can 1-ALL, but I'm really not seeing it aside from the huge amount of bombs you get. It's quite discouraging that I can't 1-ALL, and even more so when people are constantly mocking me for my inability to clear the damn thing.

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>>10963779
It really impresses me how people call IN the easiest game and clear it without any effort. It only pains me to imagine how hard the actually difficult games are. I wish I wasn't absolute shit at this.

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>>10962623
What do you mean by chaining 1-3? A full chain from start to finish, through the midboss? If you can't 1-ALL the game then you definitely should not be attempting that.

I like to chain the first half of the stage normally, saving up 4-5 hypers for the popcorn rush after the midboss, then chain everything afterward.

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>>10963879

Its not that easy, compare it to EoSD's (which people say is hard despite it really not being) 1st, 2nd and 3rd stages and its really not that bad. Its just a little below average difficulty. I haven't played Normal mode yet though, I jumped straight in to hard so I would think Hard is Normal and not get any mental barriers.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit I feel so dumb, my last run of TD I pressed C three separate times thinking I was going to death bomb but instead died. I think that really could've been the run that I finally 1cc'd the game because even with those fuck ups I made it to Miko with two lives but fucking hell. I'm only going to play TD until I beat the game so that doesn't happen again.

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>>10963910
Speak of the devil, I 1cc'd IN! Yay!

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>>10964347
Congrats! Who did you use?

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>>10964462
Looking at the picture you can tell he used ghost team.

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>>10963820
>Kaguya is pathetically easy (outside of her last words).
You meant Kaguya is a very difficult boss with pathetically easy last words right?

>>10963879
Use C-S, bomb through any sections you find hard. Game becomes trivial resource management. If you can't 1-ALL it it's either because you played a couple credits and called it quits because you didn't clear, or you're just not very good at STGs in general and need to put in a bit more effort learning the game.

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>>10964525
Isn't it Youmu solo actually? The bar looks like it goes up to 50% on the Ghost Side.

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>>10964578
I used C-S a lot before switching over to A-L, now I'm having troubles with just about everything that I found easy with C-S. Which is just about the entire game!

The teleporting ship section was mindless on C-S, but now that I actually have to think with A-L, it's much more difficult. Believe me, I've put a lot of effort in since I've started playing A-L. Mostly scoring efforts and consistently rage restarting on 1-2 and 1-3 because of dropped chains. In the rare case that I do have a perfect run of 1-1~1-4, I end up panic bombing at the 1-5 boss five times in a row, and then go on to rage restart because of my general incompetence on the, "piss easy you shouldn't be dying to this easy garbage slowbrain fuck agh ;_;" first loop.

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>>10964462
Thanks! It's Youmu solo. Youmu is lovely.

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>>10964613
You're right. I didn't notice that. For some reason I thought the bar had full size.

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>>10962589
The things I'd do for patches like that to exist for EoSD and PCB.

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>>10965354
Please elaborate on the things you'd do.

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>>10964578
>>10963820
Kaguya is piss easy on Normal and under compared to other stage 6ers. Hard and Lunatic? Ha, good luck.

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>>10965455
>good luck

good joke

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>>10963820
>>10965470
Do you have any NMNB or scoring runs against Reisen/Kaguya of your own to prove your claim?

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>>10965436
I'd suck a dick for a boss rush patch.

[Anonymous No.]

I always die with a fucking full stock of bombs. I don't know what it is, but I can never bring myself to press that button. It's like I'm saving them for a situation that never comes.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the problem, it mainly happens to me on EoSD, but my character will start moving left for no reason, and it just sticks that way like I'm holding the button, and then I'm just fucked. Tapping left doesn't fix it or anything.

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>>10965637
Make sure you aren't pressing left when you launch the game.

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>>10965616
just play no bombs, it's not even that much harder than clearing the game without them.

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>>10965616
Play shit like MoF or Pink Sweets, games you have to bomb to do anything in.

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>>10965436
>>10965585
If someone made an EoSD boss rush patch, I'd be happy to suck his dick.

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>>10965777
I'd suck dick for the ability to play all of Patchy's cards in the normal game. Boss rushes are kinda meh.

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>>10965637
Pause the game and press the offending key on the numpad. It should release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10964662
The "DDP is easy" stuff refers to getting a no score C-S bombspam 1-ALL. You aren't doing that, so tell your brain to shut up.

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>>10965637
That happens to me sometimes when I forget that I have a controller plugged in / on the floor or such.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone find that you can play a couple runs relatively fine, then after 5 or so you start playing like a complete tard and running into trivial projectiles? Is this normal.

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>>10966575
It's normal, your brain and eyes are just getting tired from the constant stimulus so take a break.

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>>10966575
This is happening very often to me in DDC. I've 1CC'd it today in lunatic and after that I started dying to Cirno repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.]

118.7mil on DDC Easy w/ Sakuya B. Likely could have broken 125 if I didn't botch up three spell cards.

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>>10966924
>Easy

[Anonymous No.]

Where is there a download for the full trial of DDC? I've looked but haven't been able to find it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967127
go be stupid somewhere else. like your homeboard, for example.

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>>10963910
People also call PCB the easiest game. Or MoF the easiest game. Or SA the easiest game. Or really any game except EoSD or UFO the easiest game, and this is assuming they aren't trolling. All the games are difficult to learn and have an extremely high skill cap, so don't feel bad if it takes you a long time to reach your goals :)

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>>10966956
My ability to score on Normal and higher is embarrassing to say the least. Had the same problem with TD.

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>>10966213
Speaking of controllers, I recently acquired a sega saturn controller, and was wondering how you guys would recommend configuring the buttons. Right now, I'm using right shoulder for shoot, A for focus, and B for bomb. It's reasonably comfortable, but I'd like to get some other opinions before practicing it too much.

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>>10966575
no this is easy

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>>10966956
Hey, don't talk shit about easy scoring. You have to be basically perfectly optimal to get a respectable score, and that's extremely difficult.

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>>10967217
Mess around with it until you find something that feels comfortable. Shmups are trial and error, might as well apply that to what kind of input you use.

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>>10961122
>posting an image with self-identifying information showing evidence of piracy
>calling me a crossboarder for using greentext
please

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967199
SA is all about memorization, you can't really just jump into it and expect to clear it even with some experience because the patterns Rin and Okuu use are utterly impossible to beat without knowing that they'll come

[Anonymous No.]

How would you rate the difficulties of the PC-98 games from lowest to highest?

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>>10967457
I'm not going to count 1 and 3, but for me it goes

Hardest: Lotus Land Story
Mid: SoEW
Easiest: Mystic Square

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>>10966956
Post your scores.

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>>10967550
Thanks. I've seen some people have mentioned LLS as the easiest though. Are they trolling? Are you trolling? Sorry.

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>>10967576
I dunno, I suck at Touhou and I can consistently get to the 6th Stage in MS but I get destroyed by Reimu in LLS on the fourth stage. I guess people just find different things easier or harder.

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>>10967580
Okay, thanks. I guess I'll have to try for myself then. Those retro feel is really sucking me in!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967604
sometimes when I have sex it is like their vagina is sucking me in

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>>10967604
Since MS has some of my favorite music in the series and I do better on that I'm biased in saying you should try that one first. SoEW is going to feel a little weird compared to other Touhou games because there wasn't any focus shooting back then and it doesn't show you the bosses health

[Anonymous No.]

>Try out EoSD on lunatic just to see the difference from hard
>Cirno's nonspells
Holy fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967580
I know Reimu's hard, but the thing that makes LLS easy is that it throws so many resources at you that you can literally bomb through every single thing Reimu does.

[Anonymous No.]

weird, th11 keeps crashing whenever I play practice and doesn't achieve a high score. has this ever happened to anyone else? is the game telling me to try my best and get as high a score as I can? t-that's kawaii nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967788
It's telling you to go play a good shooting game.

Like Hotdog Storm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967457
easiest to hardest
LLS > MS > SoEW > PoDD

don't know about HRtP sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968310

HRtP is pretty easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967576
PoDD>MS>SoEW>HRtP>LLS

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>>10967557
0 because i'm not secondary enough to play easy mode

#rekt

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968357
Wow you suck big time if you can't even get score from shooting on easy mode.

[Anonymous No.]

So, I've still never completed one of these games, is it better to just restart every time you run out of lives, as I've been doing, or just worry about completing it first, and worry about 1CC later?

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>>10968594
I always restart in touhou but I feed til the end in battle bakraid (I can't 1cc either yet so don't listen to me)

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>>10968594
You probably want to unlock all stages for practice first, so feel free to use continues until you complete it first. Then you can practice and go for a 1cc later.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay /jp/, I grew out my hair, reached 300 pounds, disowned everything I had that wasn't japanese, and cursed my non-japanese heritage.
Am I ready to play Touhou?

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>>10962812
> Either way, you can't get good at shmups if you aren't planning your runs.

What a load of shit. I just fire up the game and go with it. No planning is needed at all.
Stop talking about other Touhou games and start talking about DDC.

How hard do you think Kagerou will be nerfed in the final release? She is flat out bullshit on lunatic right now. I wouldn't call any of her spells or even non spells easy. Just when I think I've got them figured out, they end up throwing out some near wall-like pattern to fuck me over.


Oh and Sekibanki is the best character in the new game.
I feel her mid boss spell needs to change, or just needs something to make it at least a tiny bit threatening. Her boss fight is fun and I don't have much complaints about it besides her first spell card which also suffers from being too easy. I think a lot could be done with the first card to make it more challenging though, so here's to hoping for that.
First stage I have started to dislike. The fairies have too much hp and Cirno's midboss card is probably the hardest thing in both stage 1 and 2. I catch it about 60% of the time, more if I'm on a decent shot type but still, I prefer my stage 1s to be mostly harmless.
Stage 1 boss has some decent patterns and I like her as a whole. Her first spell can get nasty though. Her last spell is just a treat to dodge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968789
>Stop talking about other Touhou games and start talking about DDC.

>STG/Touhou thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968797
The other games are old and shit. They've also been discussed to death already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968789

Cirno's is difficult until you figure out what to do. Have you noticed that some of her kunai patterns get filled in and some remain unblocked by bullets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968789
My only problem with DDC is Kagerou's spell cards as a boss. Everything else can be dealt with easily.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a question for the Easy players, what is the absolutest easiest Touhou game? Imagine a person that has never really played video games before and he wants to try out one of the games, which one would you recommend? Just so he can have some fun with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968789
MaZe you're as obvious as ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968904
IN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968904
LLS is the easiest PC-98

IN with max lives is the easiest Windows

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968904
Ten Desires. A normal person will get great satisfaction out of trancing and blowing things up mindlessly, and it's nearly impossible to not 1cc the game on Easy mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968904
>Imagine a person that has never really played video games before
>which one would you recommend?

Why don't you try Mario or Tetris first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968863
Yes I've noticed. I still die to that attack more than anything else in stage 1 and 2 though.
>>10968889
I wouldn't say her nons are easy. They're not insanely difficult either, but I'd say they're far from simple.
>>10968907
What. I wasn't trying to hide who I was.
Or are you implying that my post is trolling?
>>10968904
UFO. You'll be max lives near the start of stage 3, so you can fuck up as much as you like and still have no chance of getting a game over.
The patterns are a joke though so you probably won't need most of those lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968940
Yeah, I did have quite a hard time, but seriously, her spell cards are ridiculous. The amount of bullets is just plain retarded. If I at least had spell card practice it would be (relatively) alright, but this way it's just too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968907
MaZe. Why does that sound familiar?

Wasn't he a former IaMP player? That would explain why his posts give off such an elitist vibe to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968965
He's the best player in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand people who claim EoSD is easy. I've 1 cc'd IN on normal but can barely make it to Patchouli in EoSD.

I haven't even seen Sakuya yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Reposting here:

Are you supposed to slowly whittle Sariel down while avoiding her attacks? No tricks to it? I'm having a really hard time lasting against her (newbie).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969064

Its easier than IN, all you have to do is know what to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968310
HRtP is a completely different can of worms, since it's as much like a breakout game as it is like a danmaku STG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969064
>Normal

I found your problem :V

[Natsume No.]

>>10969141

No, you need to end it as quick as possible, because after Sariel there is another, short health but difficult boss. You need to master the first few attacks and remember that you can use your shot to destroy her bullets. You should be firing constantly, if not to get rid of bullets, then at least to nudge the ball into her. If you're feeling cheap, you can get her health down and then spam bombs when you're on your last life. Just make sure you don't waste them all on Sariel's first incarnation, because there's a second, weaker boss afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969064
You gotta be kidding me.
You mean got past Marisa/Reimu and Eirin, but you can't deal with Patchy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969170
Thanks. I've been waving the wand at the bullets all this time, like a retard.

[Natsume No.]

>>10969231

How the fuck did you even get that far?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969246
Tenacity, I guess.

[Natsume No.]

>>10969254

That is tenacious, although I suppose you would get really good with the wand if didn't know about the shot. I used the shot since day 1, so I never really got good with the wand, I only use it when the ball is flying towards me and a shot just won't do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969185
Pretty much, yeah. Granted, I haven't had much practice, but this isn't my first time playing EoSD. Years ago I had hard time getting past Meiling.

It doesn't help that it's almost impossible for me to use bombs. I always die with at least 3 of them left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969263
I've been dodging and taking my time a lot too. Starting at the first stages, I felt really vulnerable when only throwing charms at the bullets, so I naturally fell into this dodging-wanding way of playing. It also feels as if you'd need a ton of finesse to actually keep the ball bouncing in the air while avoiding the bullets.

The most fun boss fight so far is Elis. I've only reached stage 15 in Hell, though.

[Natsume No.]

>>10969303

I usually slide-dodge when I'm going for a point item. Usually, I stay in one spot until the bullets reach me and then dodge. The wand is useful for when you want to get the ball moving fast, but bullets are useful for controlling it or making it stay in one area.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969325
Because it doesn't have cute girls, thus it's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Why aren't you faggots playing Dodonpachi Saidaioujou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969329

I was going to say exactly the same thing. Sometimes I feel guilty because someone makes this awesome thing, but it doesn't have any cute girls, so I disregard it.

This is why I can't make a game, because it basically be Touhou but with different characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969325
>not 2hu
>no play

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969329
you talking shit about operator-san?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969321
I slide-dodge frantically and constantly try to find a good angle to smack the ball at. I guess that I'm wasting a lot of time this way. My impression is that I must, as you say, speed up my damage dealing, or simply become really good at avoiding her attacks. Avoiding her attacks flawlessly seems super hard, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969272
And what exactly are you having a hard time with this time?

[Anonymous No.]

Are there eng patches for the PC-98 games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969419
There's one for SoEW.
I don't know that there are for the others.

[Anonymous No.]

Recently beat GFW extra after the longest time, definitely had the most trouble with Marisa out of all the extra bosses. It seems a bit lenient with the extra lives though, since i died 10 times and still managed to win.

Also 'Open Universe' is a dick spellcard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969377
No idea. I just tried again with Reimu A and made it past Patchouli. I lost quite a few lives in the process, though.

I guess I ought to stick to practice mode for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969428

Beat the game using continues and then focus practice the problematic stages, You'll be 1ccing it in no time,

[Natsume No.]

>>10969375

You can deal damage quickly with Sariel if you're fast and accurate by making the ball hit her, and then when it rebounds creating a "wall" of sorts by firing lots of bullets straight up. If the ball hits it at the right angle it will hit her again, and when it rounds move closer and create another wall. Just be careful, because the ball can start bouncing about or rebound of her quickly and land on you if you get too close. You don't need to do it flawlessly, that would take a long time to be able to do, using bombs in that game is different to the later games. They only damage the boss if you're on your last life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968357
Post your scores outside Easy, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968904
IN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969502

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969512
>easy
not impressed

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969563
Scoring on easy is the hardest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969887

[Natsume No.]

>>10969894

It is. You can finish the fist level of EoSD with one life in Hard mode, most of the time you can barely scrape 450000 in easy, mainly because of the lack of blue bullets Rumia fires during Demarcation. Whether it equalizes later or not due to the ability to easily get to POC and capture spellcards, I don't know.

[Natsume No.]

>>10969913

By one life, I mean gaining a life, not losing all your other ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969913

[Anonymous No.]

which touhou do you respect most?

I (only having played perfect cherry blossom so far) respect Alice Margatroid and Lily White the most, they don't just fight with intensity they also make sure their attacks are always beautiful. Also you can tell they have to take on a lot of rubbish because they have a little "hello" fight which is easyish to get past before they take you on seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969937
It's like you don't even play Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969913
It's not that hard to get over 450k

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28566

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the maximum amount of resources someone can get at the end of stage 1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10968594
Play full runs, so that you'll be familiar with later stages. Don't force the 1cc, just let it come to you.

>>10968357
I know this is a troll post, but I can't stand this type of attitude that some people do have. As in, you aren't playing or are secondaries because you're not at some arbitrary (and always changing) level. Safe to assume you guys aren't superplayers, so you don't get to talk shit.

>>10969064
EoSD was my 3rd Normal 1cc, then again I was familiar with the game, you might not be.. Unless you're used to playing sans hitbox it's pretty easy to lose lives by clipping random shit.

>>10970606
Pretty sure if you want max lives Marisa B is the only way to go. What you posted isn't anything different than what I have (or used) after stage 1 with Sakuya B.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970606
No.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello /jp/

My first experience with touhou has been with TH8 Imperishable Night and I have a few questions.

Am I destined to be terrible forever? I've played for about two weeks now and I still can't beat normal without using continue. And I have an immense amount of trouble with Reisen's spellcards. I can't clear two of them no matter how many times I try on spell practice.

Is this particular Touhou game any harder than the others? Are there easier ones I should play first?
I use Reimu/Yukari team by the way.

Thanks for any replies in advance

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970810
Giving us a count in hours is much more useful than giving us a count in days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970816
I'd say about 40 hours all together in a span of two weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970828
maybe you're playing too much. i get really flustered when i can't complete a certain part in any game, so i usually take a break if i ever get that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970810
You've been playing two weeks and already writing yourself off as being shit. That's a bad attitude to have really. Setting goals is fine, but starting off with a Normal 1cc seems a bit much. How far can you normally go? Set goals that are just outside of your grasp.

Also Reisen's cards are gimmicky shit. Watch a replay and never have trouble with them again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970840
You guys are talking about goals and bad attitudes when this guy is talking about playing Touhou. When did this e-sports wankery start? I swear me mums I didn't see this kind of talk before the streams appeared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970828
Good lord, that's like 4 hours a day every day. How do you people do this? I've never gone for more than two in a single day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970856
Yes because e-sports invented having goals in a game

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970840
I usually get a game over around the time Reisen uses the spellcard that creates two shifting walls of bullets.

>>10970839
That could be a reason. It seems like the more I try to practice a spellcard in practice mode the more I mess up

Thanks for the answers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970856
Could have sworn this was the regular attitude for people that wanted to get good at difficult skill based video games. I did this while picking up Beatmania about 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970871
The ones that move up and down? That one's easy. Use the shift time to find a gap near the middle of the screen and tap down with the flow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970873
I wish beatmania and stepmania packs were still being made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970883
I wish IIDX CS versions were still being made. Well... tricoro is easy to run from what I've heard.

And maybe I should get back into writing step charts. Haven't done that since last Tournamix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970873
FPS people just play and I've just played STGs. I know I'm not good or competitive but getting excited with goals would have pushed me away from these things years ago. What do you guys do in education? Don't you get tired of setting goals everywhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970930
>Don't you get tired of setting goals everywhere?
Don't you have any ambition at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970937

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970930
The concept that I can set my own goals and repeatedly challenge myself is what drew me into the genre and kept me in here while my general interest in gaming has faded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970930
People who play FPS set goals for themselves, even if you don't notice it. In Quake 3 Arena, there are plenty of top players who play outside of their best matches in an attempt to achieve a higher goal. It can be anything from making bridge to rail consistently in a real match, to increasing their overall accuracy with the railgun, practicing to track them better with the lightning gun if needed. If they aren't putting any thought into improving with a goal, they aren't going to improve at all.

If you do not have a goal, you will always just be wandering aimlessly. Do things that are in your own skill range and move up when you feel necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970963
Yeah, but isn't talking about it kind of gay? Moving up with video games? I feel old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970976
Thank you for your insightful comments on the matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970947
>by Pythagorean Theorem
Confirmed for babby math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970983
You're welcome. You just got bullied by an autismal NEET on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971022
Is it actually bullying if my jimmies remain very unrustled? This is very 1/10 material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970976
You don't need to play any more than 30 minutes~1 hour a day to improve at video games. There isn't anything gay about wanting to improve.

That is, if you want to improve. Some people are perfectly fine with flailing around and credit feeding through games multiple times. They just enjoy blowing things up, and I'm okay with that. Hell, I've even seen some people credit feed through a game multiple times in one day for hours on end. Just do whatever is fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971042
Epic /v/ meme, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971049
>There isn't anything gay about wanting to improve.
Training to be the best Touhou player in the west so that your unknown buddies on /jp/ can give you a virtual pat on the back and write "no homo".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971118
i do it because i have nothing better to do. im playing the game so i might as well try to improve while doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971118
Whenever I shoot somebody with the railgun in Q3A I like to imagine that it's my dick going inside of them

This is why I am gay and this is why improving at video games is for gays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971118
I just like to do things that at one point felt impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970857
40 hours in 2 weeks is nothing m8

I play for 12+ hours a day when I go full autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970930
>What do you guys do in education?
implying we didn't drop out when we were 15

get out of /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971208
This "we" stuff is getting out of hand.

[Anonymous No.]

Get good shmup fundamentals

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971208
You're trying just a little to hard to not sound new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971208
To use "implying" without greentexting to fit in is pathetic and you miss the point entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971208
Why would I drop out of high school? It was free and easy as shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969560

[Anonymous No.]

This is about the highest I've gotten my graze and point value So early in the playthrough. What does everyone else sit at around this time?

[Anonymous No.]

Kagerou's last spell card is bullshit on a blind run

How are you supposed to know shes gonna run down the bottom

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971786
Who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971786
Did you complain when Youmu randomly decapitates you in PCB, too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971815
she didnt and doesnt

[Anonymous No.]

>>10967217
You might want to stop using your thumb for the ABC buttons, and instead use your left hand fingers while laying the controller on top of your leg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971118
>no homo
every good STG player i know is openly gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971815
To be fair, the slowdown charge makes it pretty obvious. All of the previous attacks she has make the same horizontal slash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971838
If you've chilling at the bottom of the screen, she will cut you in half with one of her spellcards. She also randomly cuts you up in StB many times, although most people don't give a shit about that since you don't lose a run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971859
Thinking properly during your first run is too hard ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970697
How did you do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971786
It's only bullshit if you do a single run and never play the game. The second time around you know better and it doesn't kill you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971758
What shot type?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971937
Sakuya B

I still have failed to finish the 3 stages while specifically score running. Keep clipping and stupid deaths.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971815
Youmu warns you about slashes; Kagerou gives no such warning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971934
>on a blind run

[Anonymous No.]

What stream/play-through is /jp/ watching? Link in OP is nothing atm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10970810

It took me five months to 1cc my first 2hu (EoSD) on Normal. I didn't play constantly during all that time, but that doesn't change facts.

Once that was done, though, I 1cc'd every other integer Windows Touhou game (other than 9 because that's different and I don't like it) within a month, cleared all the Extra Stages of those games within less than a month, 1cc'd all of the games on Hard except UFO in two weeks, took a couple of weeks off, then 1cc'd UFO on Hard in about a week of serious effort.

I think that anyone can get good at Touhou if given enough time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971893
Marisa B's bomb eats bullets and spits out power items, and gathering 60+ items always gives you a life piece. Lunatic has a lot of bullets.

[Anonymous No.]

So SaiDaiOuJou was Cave's swan song.
Fuck this gay earth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972048
In the case there are no streams online, the link in the OP tends to be empty. Wait for a while and someone might start streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10969325
my copy won't arrive for 2-3 weeks ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10971786
Did people really get caught by that? Even in my blind first run I had enough awareness to not stay put when she started jumping all over the place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972782
I accidentally ran into the 1-4 boss when he came down for a boxing match. I didn't know what he wanted to do to me, so I tried to fly away and ended up running into him. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972819
You have a strange concept of 'away'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972844
I tried to get behind him because I was expecting something crazy as HELL like the Ketsui 1-4 boss, but no. He just tries to punch you with his lasers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972048
livetube.cc/tag.STG

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, I just tried to play IN again, but it runs a little bit slower than it usally does (50fps). Any way to fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972924
Install Gentoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972953
>>>/g/

>>10972924
Are you running the VPatch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972113
Where did you hear that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10972971
No, maybe I should try it, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973035
4gamer.net/games/999/G999905/20130518005/

tl;dr CAVE going full online/social

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973053

As if it's any surprise. Perhaps if more of you faggots had actually bought CAVE's 360 shmups instead of

>hurr durr 360 is for baka gaijins, where mah PS3 shmups lel

teh CAVE wouldn't of gone the way of Raizing. All most of you fuckers did was download the roms to play on a emulator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973075
The 360 has simply been an awful console in most aspects. I'm not sure why anyone would want to own one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973075
It's a big part of the problem I agree, J360s are cheap and have been for a long time time now (even just flipping burgers for a month is enough to buy a console and a bunch of ports) but most people still tried using region locking as an excuse.
It's a shame but hopefully a new group step up to fill the void.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973053
>tl;dr CAVE going full online/social
>social
Wii U is social
Ibara for Wii U confirmed

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973041
I did install it, it didn't work. Even if I set it on 120fps the game will just stay on 50fps at best

[Anonymous No.]

I'm finding DDC harder than PCB on normal. Is this ordinary?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973209
I find Touhou(except PoFV) on Normal harder than most first loop CAVE games. I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973209
It seems to be in the upper tier of Touhou difficulty, at least from the levels we have. Definitely feels up there with SA and UFO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973227
Its stage 1-3 is definitely top tier in terms of difficulty. If the full release follows suit to that, then I have no doubt in my mind that it will be the hardest Touhou game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973248
>>10973227
It throws resources at you though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973264
So did UFO, that doesn't make the patterns more manageable without spamming bombs.

[Anonymous No.]

DDC being a Touhou game with difficult patterns and having spell practice makes me happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973132

Thing is though that most of their releases were region free. Deathsmiles was localized for the west and Deathsmiles II was released on GOD in America unlocalized. The only game that was region locked and didn't receive a western release was the original Mushihimesama (not Futari). Also the 5pb games were region locked but Ketsui is getting a PS3 release. DDPDOJ for the 360 used stolen code from the PS2 version so they won't be releasing that again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973217
Feels like pcb on lunatic where I had difficulties on Chen's last card and with Alice the hardest boss of the game. In DDC, Kagerou is pretty much the only difficult thing with flying head's last card.
At least, I find it way easier than SA and UFO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973292
J360+DOJBLEX isn't all that expensive if you actually have money.

Alternatively, you can probably just mod a cheap na 360 and import it, saving a lot of money. I'm still not entirely sure if you can import directly from CAVE. If you're rich, you're probably just better off getting a pcb instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973132

Reply to my own post

CAVE Games people can play without a Japanese 360

>Deathsmiles
(region locked but it got a western release)
>Mushihimesama Futari
(region free)
>Espgaluda II
(SE was region free, LE was locked)
>Deathsmiles II
(Region locked, got a GOD release in the US unlocalized)
>Dodonpachi Dai-Fukkatsu
(Region locked but got a western release)
>Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets
(Region Free)
>Akai Katana Shin
(Region locked but got a western release)
>Mushihimesama
(Region locked, NO WESTERN RELEASE)
>Dondonpachi Saidaioujou
(Region free)

5pb's games

>Dodonpachi Daioujou
(Region locked, NO WESTERN RELEASE
>Ketsui
(Region locked, REGION FREE RELEASE ON PS3 COMING OUT)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973292

Reply to my own post

CAVE Games people can play without a Japanese 360

>Deathsmiles
(region locked but it got a western release)
>Mushihimesama Futari
(region free)
>Espgaluda II
(SE was region free, LE was locked)
>Deathsmiles II
(Region locked, got a GOD release in the US unlocalized)
>Dodonpachi Dai-Fukkatsu
(Region locked but got a western release)
>Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets
(Region Free)
>Akai Katana Shin
(Region locked but got a western release)
>Mushihimesama
(Region locked, NO WESTERN RELEASE)
>Dondonpachi Saidaioujou
(Region free)

5pb's games

>Dodonpachi Daioujou
(Region locked, NO WESTERN RELEASE
>Ketsui
(Region locked, REGION FREE RELEASE ON PS3 COMING OUT)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973248
>I have no doubt in my mind that it will be the hardest Touhou game.
Overstatement of the century, congratulations.

[Anonymous No.]

When I start the Touhou DDC demo it crashes on startup and gives me this error. I've already changed the name of the folder where I've installed it and changed my computer to japlocale but it sill gives me this. Anyone knows what it is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973359
lower the resolution.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20998629
Wait until the boss fight. I can't stop laughing.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you guys get motivated to play STGs? A few days ago I did some practice mode and a couple of runs which ended horribly. Despite the runs in practice mode being really good, I choked pretty hard during the full runs. It's just really hard getting myself to actually play the games, even if I am noticing improvements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973430

Go back to your shitty JRPG's, they don't require any skill so you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

rip cave

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973440
I wish that all shitty players would go back to playing JRPGs so the competition would be more lively.

Instead, we get these faggot scrubs like planktrouser who complain about being SOOOOO BAD. Boo fucking who. Cry me a river and drown yourself in it if you aren't going to start taking these games seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973448
These threads could use some "Would you suck it? Yes or no."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973438

Why is someone burning their CAVE complete collection?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973430
Take a break and play something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973438

That shit wasn't cheap and it's now out of print. What the fuck were they thinking and why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973461
>>10973467
Why would you want the console releases when you have the glorious pcbs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973364
yeah it's the casual mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973323
How is that an overstatement? It clearly has the hardest stages 1-3. None of the other games had a stage 3 bosses with patterns anywhere near as difficult as Kagerou's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973565
I found Ichirin's patterns to be a lot tougher than Kagerou's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10973565
I have far more trouble with UFO's early game, personally.

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>>10973565
It has the hardest stage 3 survival-wise, but not the hardest stage 1 or 2. Headless girl is a joke, compare her to Kogasa. Kogasa is almost as hard as Kagerou anyhow.

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>>10973430
I have an Eroge open on my 2nd monitor, reading a little between runs stops me from getting frustrated, so I don't really loose motivation. Try something like that.

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>>10973565
When SA demo came out people bitched so much about the difficulty that it was actually lowered when the full version came out. Not sure if this will happen again. So far i'm not seeing too many complaints.

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>>10973430
Call yourself shit all the time. Never expect a good run, never expect progress or improvement. Just anticipate failure and get over it. If something good comes you'll feel happy. That will be your motivation for the year.

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Why do shitty players feel the need to post their opinions?

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>>10973584
Ichirin was really difficult for me at first as well, but mostly because of my phobia of needles. I was literally blinking and wincing away from the screen when I was fighting her, shit was horrible, and it took me a lot of try in DS to get over that fear.

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>>10973584
>>10973585
>>10973586

You're all shit then. Don't even waste my time by posting anymore unless you can actually prove me wrong.
I took 2 minutes out of my precious DDC time just to show you how pathetic Ichirin is. I don't even play UFO either.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ebi4brz542a7k45/th12_02.rpy

You need the boss rush patch watch that I expect.
I'm hardly going to waste my time going through a boring and easy stage section just to prove a point. Oh and that took all of one attempt.
Your turn now, feel free to show me you getting anywhere near a perfect Kagerou run. I already know you can't, because she's leagues ahead of anything the other games throw at you at least up until stage 5.

>Kogasa is almost as hard as Kagerou anyhow.

This comment made me piss myself with laughter too, thanks.

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>>10973744
>mediafire
>posting fanart along the text
>no sage
>>>/new/

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>>10973744
Get good shmup fundamentals

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>>10973776
who are you greening

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>>10971229
>>10971344
>>10971364
>>10971373
look at all of these pathetic non-hiki falseneet normies

/jp/ has fallen

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>>10973776
Deal with it faggot. I'm still right.

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I just played Ten Desires for the first time. I can 1cc IN on hard and EoSD on Normal, but I can't clear stage three of TD without game over. Is this particular game more harder than the others, or does it just take some getting used to? The feeling of the game seems a lot different to me.

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>>10973817
It takes some getting used to, but once you do it should come pretty quickly.

Two things to consider: scarce resources and wisps that spawn on top of you.

Trance at the right time to get extra resources (often when you kill fairies that drop orbs quickly extra ones will appear) and bomb on top of bosses to quickly refill trance.

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>>10973817
It's actually considered the easiest game in the series.

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>>10973824
Alright, thanks. It's the only "traditional" touhou game that feels almost completely different than the others to me, so it threw me off pretty hard when I first played it

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>>10973675
Why do good players call themselves shitty all the time? Even world record holders are always calling themselves really bad at their best game. "Oh, I have the WR in a bunch of games, and I can last 30 minutes on average in PoFV, but I really suck colonv"

>>10973688
because they aren't irc overGODs

>>10973744
>>10973811
MaZe why are you so good at shooting games ;_; please make me a good route for DOJBL and Garegga so I can be good like you please thank you I will be extra happy if you do it for me thank you.

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>>10973817
It just takes time getting used to. Since the later games (UFO and on) have a shitty gimmick where your resources aren't guaranteed, you'll need to learn to bomb (and trance in TD's case) at the right places. Survival can be heavily route based, so screwing up one or two trance spots for example, can leave you behind on resources and unprepared for later parts of the game. Earlier games (EoSD - MoF) have score or point item based extends, so it's more static and less dependent on changing your play style. You might need to watch a replay to know the most beneficial trance spots in TD.

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it's okay guys cave aren't actually dead (yet), the 4gamer article was merely suggesting the route cave might take in the future

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>>10973950
I have $150 right now, should I buy SDOJ?

Is there any way to buy from CAVE directly? I feel bad because the only CAVE game I've ever bought is DOJ for my Japanese PS2 some years ago as a side game, and that was from eBay.

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>>10973960

buy it, as soon as I get money I'm buying it too. You can't buy anything direct from cave at the moment.

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>>10973960
Buy SDOJ and the Cave Shooting Collection from any one of your friendly neighborhood online retailers.

You alone have the power to save this company.

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> CAVE consumer division closed, going full online/social.

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>>10974026

That's not true, they've restructured and moved to a new office. The company has less divisions and is slighter smaller but they're continuing as normal for now.

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Cave being done with consoles might be a good thing. Now they can go back to releasing two new arcade games a year.

Deathsmiles 3 incoming

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>>10974048

who MUSHIHIMESAMA 3 here

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>>10974000
I'm considering saving up a lot of money and buying the complete collection just for the hell of it. I'm guessing the DVDs that come with it are just superplays?

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>>10974032
It is true, it's what the article says. All signs point to social from here on. Everyone thinks it's written from Cave though.

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Is TH6 with no hitbox mod the hardest extra stage?

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>>10974572
No. UFO is the hardest extra stage.

As for how hard Flandre is? Koishi is the hardest extra boss.

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>>10974655
>UFO is the hardest extra stage.
Except no, it isn't.

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>>10974712
Then why didn't you tell me which is? Could it be because there is no harder stage?

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>>10974733
SA / EoSD / TD
All of them are easily harder than UFOs extra. Nue is pathetically easy.

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>>10974744
I find IN extra harder than all of those

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>>10974744
Why are you discussing the bosses? He wanted to know about the stage.

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>>10974753
Many people say that mokou is one of the easiest. I guess it is all preference.

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>>10974572
hitbox patch doesn't really make the game easier imo

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>>10974762
I think she's the easiest when learning time is adjusted for spell practice mode, which dramatically accelerates things.

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>>10974762
If IN had no spell practice Mokou would be considered a lot harder.

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>>10974758
"Extra stage" implies the whole thing, unless specifically mentioning leaving the boss out.

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Wow, lot of people streaming at this hour

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I played Touhou games like crazy all last summer, and ended up being able to 1cc all of the integer Windows games on Hard (except PoFV because I never tried because I didn't like it when trying to 1cc it on Normal).

I didn't play Touhou for the longest time, and now I just started playing EoSD on Lunatic. It's weird how some parts aren't changed at all from Hard mode, but other parts absolutely tear me limb from limb.

Regardless, on my first attempt that used continues, I managed to make it all the way through the game, ending with 3 Continues used, no lives left, and one bomb remaining. I panic bombed a lot, so just a bit of practice should let me 1cc this game on its hardest difficulty. I'm excited.

I don't see how Scarlet Meister is possible to clear, though. Fucking solid walls of bullets.

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>>10975050
Spells like Scarlet Meister are a bit tough on games like EoSD since there is no spellcard practice. In a game like IN, you could practice it hundreds/thousands of times until you perfect the spell and can do it on muscle memory. That's why a lot of people say that EoSD is one of the hardest of the series.

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>>10975103
>That's why a lot of people say that EoSD is one of the hardest of the series.
But everyone I know, myself included, tends to rate it near the middle.

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>>10975050
are you using the vsyncpatch?
otherwise just dodge better. Meister is not hard once you get used to it.

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>>10975103
>EoSD is the hardest

what lol
no
UFO is the hardest

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>>10975559
There is no set in stone hardest game.

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>>10973644
>So far i'm not seeing too many complaints.
I'm not complaining, but I definitely think wolfbitch is difficult. As she is right now on Lunatic, she's easily harder than any other Stage 3 boss of the Windows series. Every single one of her bullets is fast, random, and additive blend to top it all off.

>>10973842
>Why do good players call themselves shitty all the time?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>>10974572
I consider IN Extra to be the most difficult to NMNB.

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>>10973810
See >>10971344

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>>10972089
Could someone upload a replay of this? I'm too stupid to figure out how to gather this much.

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>>10975933
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20993690

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>>10976010
Okay that's fucked up. Thanks.

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Reimu A is seriously too strong compared to B.

There's no reason to use B.

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>>10973227
>>10973209
I only find DDC Normal harder than PCB if you try and get greedy. Other than Kagerou's 2nd last card, it seems about the same.

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>>10973075
>bought Resurrection and Akai Katana
>RSG failed
>bought Mushi HD and SDOJ
>Cave closing shop
I did what I could. If I ever win the lottery I'll throw a few million Yagawa and Ikeda's way for Ibara 3 and SDFK.

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Since DDC is about score bombing with constant resources, it better be hard in order to compensate. If ZUN changes Kagerou or makes stage 4 a step down I'll be mad.

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>>10973950
IIRC Ikeda had to basically beg repeatedly to get SDOJ out the door. I'm not holding my breath.

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>>10976789
Why would he change kagerou


Only her last spell is hard

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>>10977260
Try something other than Normal, hun.

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>>10977260
:V....

Normal mode playing scurb. stay out of these threads

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Good morning

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how do i 1cc a touhou game

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>>10978396
Don't lose all your lives.

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>>10978400
that's really hard.

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Which girl/shot type are the absolute strongest in SA and IN?

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>>10978417
For SA, Reimu A has great DPS from any range and the Yukari border jump gimmick lets you completely circumvent large portions of a lot of the stages.
IN would probably be Youmu solo.

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>>10978417
As is, straight highest DPS or actually most usable?

In IN Malice cannon and Youmu's shot (provided you line up myon) are about equally powerful, but the border team is by far the easiest to use.

In SA, Yukari's shot is the strongest "generally" (also the easiest to use, arguably), but you can kill things quicker with some tricks with Patchouli's options or using Alice unfocussed shotgun (not very practical).

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I recently got my harddrive wiped, so I had to lose my data on TH7 in which I had beaten Yukari multiple times. Now, trying to unlock the extra stage, I can't 1cc the game on normal. Give it to me straight, am I gay?

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>>10978928
Sometimes

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My Google is failing me here. Anyone know where I can download Crimzon Clover?

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>>10979012
underground gamer