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I see no Koishi thread. Let's fix that.

Happy (late) Koishi's Day everyone.

>> No.10888104

I hate Koishi so fucking much.

So fucking much.

And all of you as well!

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>>10888104
She will always love you.

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Koishi day?

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My favorite so far.

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>>10888212
Koishi day.

>> No.10888275

It isn`t koishi day anymore

>> No.10888283

>>10888275
Read the OP.

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Not much for being her day.

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It's always Koishi day in my heart.

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Sometimes Koishi makes me very "happy" indeed.

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>>10888355
There's just something about Koishi...

>> No.10888383

>>10888355
>>10888365
cute socks

>> No.10888395

>>10888355
I don't get what you're saying. Could you elaborate?

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I always thought Koishi was one of the warmest touhous, but also the most tragic.

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>> No.10888446

Ah, yes, Koishi, the poor man's Flandre.

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>>10888395
I'm sorry, for that we would have to change the color theme of the board.

>>10888446
I lol'd

>> No.10888458

>>10888446
flandre's the worst touhou

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>>10888421
Koishi really does have a tragic backstory.

Which is why I find it really damn jarring how there's all these sweet family doujins where Satori and Koishi just get along swimmingly completely glossing over Koishi's closing of her third eye.

Thinking about it from their points of view, it seems something akin to well...

Think of a racial minority of some sort. This person was hated for what she was and got so depressed, did something to entirely change who she was in an attempt to get accepted by white people, but ultimately missing the mark and performing something close to a lobotomy on herself. Now imagine that person had a sister who was weathering the hate and then learned her sibling had mutilated herself into something that she could barely conceive or even remember.

It seems downright horrifying from Satori's point of view and extremely depressing. Hated by the world and her only family was not willing to stand with her. Maybe even wracked by guilt from failing to prevent Koishi from closing her third eye.

Koishi's situation however seems even more terrifying. I think, sometimes I hate that I think, but generally I find it useful. I cannot imagine what it is like to not think. Would it be similar to being dead already or maybe just a non-comprehending animal? Like a human being that goes through the motions of living, but failing to think about any of it?

Well, whatever Koishi is. It's really damn philosophical.

>> No.10888489

>>10888467
Anterograde amnesia mythologized, I guess. Someone should make a compendium of 2hu myths, not a wiki per se, but a coherent volume, like the Metamorphoses by Ovid.

Interesting post though, good read.

>> No.10888503

>>10888489
Anterograde amnesia, huh. That does seem similar. Something like this guy's case which is also really sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62C_yTUyVg

>> No.10888507

>>10888467
I wouldn't pity koishi. She doesn't pity herself.
In the same vein I don't feel sad for yoshika, since she doesn't care either.

Satoris probably depressed about it, though.

>> No.10888567

>>10888507
But Koishi isn't even capable of pity thinking about it.

Though this brings up something to think about. What would the Koishi from before her closing of her third eye think about how she is now?

Yoshika before her turning into a zombie as well?

>> No.10888562

>>10888507
Yoshika's consciousness is so weak and so thoroughly controlled by the ofuda that we don't know what she thinks about her current state.

>> No.10888585

>>10888489
Far, far away, where sing a flight of flinches,
while the mushroom grows it's silent inches,
lies Gensokyo, land of insincere truth,
May my song of ye not be so uncouth

>> No.10888628

>>10888503
A classic case of it, no doubt. Thank you for the link, enjoyed it greatly.

Derek Parfit has some interesting insight into the philosophical side retrograde amnesia and the metaphysics of identity mingled with memory, which Koishi's story is concerned with, if you're interested.

(I would definitely recommend a book to go along with this simple overview.)
http://mind.ucsd.edu/syllabi/06-07/Phil285/readings/parfit-personal-identity.pdf

Of the readily available links via google: http://dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~snichols/Papers/MemoryandSenseofPersonalIdentity.pdf is not too bad either.

The Atlantic recently published a short biographical story on this sort of thing:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/amnesia-and-the-self-that-remains-when-memory-is-lost/266662/

I know there are some interesting ideas dredged up in courtroom studies about homicides committed by people with amnesia, but I can't suggest any books. In general personal identity studies eat up a lot of this territory non-specifically, so go there I'd say.

>> No.10888644

>>10888585
It'd be nice to organize the writers of /jp/ to make some fables, myths, what-have-you about 2hus.

Like if someone made a chart listing out the whole lot of them and people would "roll" for a character to write on, well, that'd be a moderately redemptive project.

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>> No.10888694

Thanks, Tom.

>> No.10888752

>>10888628
Thanks for all the links, interesting to read.

The Parfit stuff has me pondering my stance on identity and when death of identity occurs.

The most workable one I can posit is that to identity, change is death, but that change in itself is life and that no change is true death.

From our experiences, we constantly change ever so slightly, some experiences change us more than others and cause us to say we aren't the same person we were before. We never are exactly. We're a part of a constant stream that we call a life and when that stream/life ends is what we truly consider death.

The complex division case would be the constant division of streams into multiple lives. B-30 isn't A, but neither B-2, but they're a part of the same life, the same stream.

>> No.10888794

>>10888752
> but that change in itself is life and that no change is true death

I feel that.

Piero Scaruffi (who I think is much more interesting as a philosopher than the one-trick pony of a music critic that /mu/ casts him as) has some provocative essays on "equilibrium as death" and a lot of his work is a swarm around the nagging feeling that, "[w]e're a part of a constant stream", which he frames by co-opting the phrase "you can never enter the same river twice". That is to say, that flux is the essence of life, not a series of axiomatic gestures that philosophy likes to suggest it is (which their whole enterprise subsists on; there isn't much to say if every analytic maneuver dead-ends in uncertainty). To those ends, there's definitely something interesting to anterograde amnesiacs whose lives are largely unchanging and yet experienced newly every period of relapse.

I hope you enjoy the links and live a fuller life because of them.

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olev

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>>10888446
what?

>>10888458
no

>> No.10892156

bump~

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>>10888644
I'd be interested, I've a story about Iku causing a crew member of a Strato-bomber to lose his grip on reality.

>> No.10892243

>>10892198
please post or upload to pastebin

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>>10892243
Uhh.. it's not quite finished yet, but when it's ready I will post it.

>> No.10892285

>>10888669
That's not kawaii at all.

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It would take 6 threads to post every Koishi image I have.

>> No.10892323

>>10892266
Not an acceptable answer. Finish it now.

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>> No.10892463

>>10888467
Michael Jackson turned white and his family didn't care.

>> No.10892594

>>10892266
Will you post it in the OC thread?

I'll keep an eye out for it when I'm around.

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>>10892594
Sure, didn't know writing was allowed in those threads.

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>>10892711
Writing, programming, whatever.

Speaking of Koishi and OC, still awaiting for that drawing of Koishi riding an Ultralisk that someone mentioned. It sounds too adorable.

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>>10892308

thats a lotta koishi!

>> No.10892764

Whoa! Koishi is ugly!

>> No.10892816

>>10892746
Never underestimate a man's love for his 2nd favorite 2hu.

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>>10892728
That does sound cute.

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>>10892816
my image was swallowed by the void.

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>>10892817
Almost as cute as Koishi herself.

>> No.10892830

>>10892824
What the fuck did she do with her eye and cords?

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>>10892824
Though there is something kind of sad about how she's cute, like you would only see her for a second, and by the time the brain registered it, she's gone.

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>> No.10892906

>>10892842
Truly a sad fate for any friend of Koishi.

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>>10892906
But she'll live in the edge of the mind forever, a permanent background character in their dreams.

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>> No.10892947

Damn, I came in this thread for Koishi. I didn't expect to get a side of feels too.

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>>10892925
She's really the best friend you never had.

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The reason that Koishi is attractive is her state of semi existence. She could really be in the room with you right now, and you would never know. She barely exists, and acts in pure impulse, making her almost a feature of nature then a living thing. She is like a mountain, stong and standing, but not directly affecting it. She is always on the side of your vision, and when you feel like you have to walk a different way for no reason, that could be her simply wanting to walk by your side for a bit longer. She could be the reason why some days you just smile and laugh, you dont know right? If she hurts you, there was no malice, it was simply chance, like an atom decaying and the gamma ray it emitted giving you cancer. Koishi could be standing right behind you right now, in fact, you might even feel her hand lightly resting on your shoulder. The taoists call this "acting without doing" and Koishi is an embodiment of this.

>> No.10893087

>>10893073
Man...I wish I could write well...

That was really moving. Thank you for taking the time and posting it on /jp/, of all places.

How did you first start seeing Koishi in this way? Did it take a long time to develop these thoughts? I'd like to be able to intellectualize 2hus a little bit...or at least make them sorta poetic.

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>>10893087
How about a haiku?

Ghost in Netherworld
Eats a useless rabbit girl
Youmu, I'm hungry

>> No.10893107

>>10893073
I'm going to cry, fuck this thread. I can only take so much heart failure.

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>>10893073
Hold me now, Koishi, you with the dazzling, empty presence.

Hold me now.

>> No.10893171

>>10893104
Who the fuck eats carrots with the stems still on them

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>>10893087
it just kind of is. Koishi closing her third eye is nothing major when you first see it, but when you are laying awake at night thinking, you realize how major that is. She was so hated, so tormented, that she obliterated herself. It was the closest thing that she had to suicide. She pushed away all of her loved ones, more or less betrayed her species, and gave up one of the only thing that defined her. From Satori's spell cards and dialog, we can guess that the satori's relay almost exclusively on their third eye. Koishi destroying hers would be like an artist going blind and cutting off his hands, or a chef cutting out his tongue and nose. It would mean giving up all that you know. Imagine how much hate she must have felt to commit such an action, how bullied and despised. The Satori are the hated among hated, and she was driven to the edge to escape it. I wonder as the eye closed and her mind slipped away, if she thought of her sister that she was leaving behind, and then it was too late.

And yet, she still exists, wandering around, probably crossing the border into the human world and back again. Walking along side a lonely man walking his groceries home in the rain, following him into his empty house, and as he drifts off to sleep, maybe whispering a joke or a old story into his ear before wondering off to the next destination.

>> No.10893187

>>10892947
>>10893159
epic feel meme guys

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>>10893073
>>10893087
>>10893107
>>10893159
It's a shame since we will never be able to know her or comprehend her truly. One has to be an interesting being on the same level as a player character to attract her interest and know and interact with her for even a bit.

Thinking about it, it's really damn complimentary towards the player character that they make Koishi's closed third eye twitch.

I wish I were a player character like Marisa or Reimu.

>> No.10893213

>>10893187
Bitter, cynical mememetaposters don't get ghosted by loving Koishi.

Please be kind and let people genuinely express themselves over the topic.

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>> No.10893234

>>10893073
>>10893181

These the same poster? Brought tears to my old eyes man.

>> No.10893266

>>10893073
>>10893181
Fuck, man. You're pulling my heart strings here.

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>>10893181
>>10893073

weeps softly

>> No.10894408

Couldn't she have just covered her eye or something?

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You've thought lewd things!

>> No.10896152

>>10896140
I'm thinking them right now.
Directly about you.

>> No.10896239

>>10896140
My fetish is to mentally abuse Komeiji with lewd thoughts about her. Then, when she started to get angry I would thought how cute she is and how much I love her.
That would make her blush and become dere-dere...

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>>10893289
Nice view.

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Going to dump this old doujin.

Pure Jade Anthocyanin by Red Sight.

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>>10901352

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>>10901361

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>>10901365

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>>10901369

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>>10901375

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>>10901373

>> No.10901386

thank you for sharing so far

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>>10901379

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>>10901395

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>>10901407

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>>10901404

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>>10901409

>> No.10901412

This is actually a pretty interesting read.

Are there any similar ones out there for when this is over?

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>>10901411

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>>10901415

>>10901412
This doujin was always one of my favorites since it's one of the only ones that took on the Komeiji issue directly. I don't really recall any other doujins like it sadly.

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>>10901422

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>>10901424

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>>10901426

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>>10901427

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>>10901458

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>>10901469

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>>10901465

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>>10901470

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>>10901474

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>>10901472

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>>10901479
And done.

Download link.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tjwmiyyzwqt/RED-SIGHT_-_Pure_Jade_Anthocyanin.zip

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>>10901477

>> No.10901482

Thank you for posting that.

>> No.10901484

>>10901481
Whoops, appears that link is dead.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vc1xj8con4k179f/RED-SIGHT_-_Pure_Jade_Anthocyanin.zip

>> No.10901489

>>10901481
damnit I saved each one on its own. Thanks for that, shmuck. Oh well, it was fun refreshing and waiting for each page. Thanks for the dump.

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>> No.10901631

>>10901481
You are credit to team.

>> No.10901643

>>10901481
Holy shit, that was great. Thanks!

>> No.10903815

Thank you for the dump and link.

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