/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Have you done your reps yet?

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't done anything for a week.
Now I am afraid to start

[Anonymous No.]

Yes.
I noticed the robotic voice of my flashcards sounds a lot like KOSMOS.
``targetto rocku shimasu'' *le blank face*

[Anonymous No.]

5000 cards mature. And in the process of doing them.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't done it in 2 and a half weeks. I'm terrified that I fucked it forever.

[Anonymous No.]

How about, instead of making foreigners do this, the Japanese just use roman letters? 26 reps and they're done.

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>>10718939
Most people here are already past the writing system.

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>>10718939
It's more fun the way it is now. Because that way you have higher brag rights and can pull your dick in front of people more.

[Anonymous No.]

jacking each other off about how high your numbers are: the thread

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>>10718939
What if instead of writing, Japanese goes back to being a vocal language like it did before Chinese letters were introduced.

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>>10718939
Jap's should seriously do this. The italians recognized that roman numerals are inferior.

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>>10718976
Japanese use arabic numerals, too.

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>>10719007
Your point? They shouldn't have stopped absorbing better systems there.

It would only take few decades for everyone to get used to or die for the new system.

They would suck so much on english anymore either... You know, that language, that pretty much every siviciliced person on this planet understands.

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>>10719030
Is this suppose to be ironic?

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ITT: butthurt failures that are too lazy to learn japanese and blames the writing system

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>>10719046

The writing system is pointlessly complicated. I realize learning its ins and outs his a key part of your self-esteem but insulting people doesn't change this.

[Anonymous No.]

Acting like a retard is only funny when it's actually funny.

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>>10719054
Do you play easy mode on Touhou too?

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>>10719066

The point of a game is to be a challenge. Things in real life should be simple if possible.

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>>10719039
I just aren't a native english speaker, so I made a few mistakes.

Learning english was easy though, unlike this archaic moon rune language.

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>>10719076
It is simple when you get use to it. In fact, Chinese letters are more effective in expressing the meaning of each word than Latin characters are.

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>>10719089
Everything is simple once you're a master at it. I heard this about Chinese letters before though. How do you mean?

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>>10719030
Even if you want them to drop kanji (god knows why), kana is already a better writing system than roman letters. And if they really wanted something even better than that, they'd use hangul.

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>>10719101
Each radical within a character can be thought of as one letter, and the compilation of these letters forms a character. Each radical has their own meaning that contribute to the meaning as a whole.

For example:
女 means woman.
石 means stone.
together, they form 妬, which means jealousy.

As you study, you will find patterns like this one, like 女 within a character usually will mean that the character is some sort of emotion such as 嬉, 嫌, and 好, but sometimes the character may also be some sort of woman such as 嫁, 婦, and 娼.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know. Removing kanji would make stuff even harder. At least that's what I've noticed grinding vocab.

I always have problems with memorizing kana-only words. Always.

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>>10719127
Whatever. Any alphabet is fine.

>>10719142
I appreciate the time you took to write that all out but surely in a lot of cases the radicals have nothing to do with the kanji they're in either in terms of pronunciation or meaning and that's got to be confusing. Not to mention that English has plenty of phonemes which essentially have the a similar function to the reoccurring characters you mention their at the end.

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>>10719127
>you're baka gaijin writing system will never be as sugoi as magnificient nihon writing

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>>10718922
Try a couple months, anon. Do it now.

I could recognize about 1000, but now I'm not so sure. I need to get on that...

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>>10719076
English grammar is anything but simple. There are natives who can't even get it right.

[Anonymous No.]

This is how I remember lonely,
enjoy

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>>10719232
English grammar may or may not be simple, but that is not the issue here. Latin writing system is simple, and that is what we are discussing.

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English "grammar" is not even the main problem. It is that english pronounciation rules are not consistent with the way that words are written. There should be only one whey to pronounce the letter "a", yet there are multiple.

Languages like finnish (and japanese syllabaries) are consistent in the pronunciation.
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>>10719285
>idiot that hasn't spent enough time with japanese to realize that kanji makes things easier and pulls shit out of his ass

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>>10719290
Every newbie to Japanese.

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>>10719290

You can learn to read English, in a fashion, in less than a day. How long does it take to be literate in Japanese?

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>>10719285
>English grammar may or may not be simple, but that is not the issue here
That's my bad, I thought you were talking about adopting the language. And grammar is part of the problem. English grammar rules are just as inconsistent as pronunciation rules.

Now to address your actual point, the Japanese cannot adopt a simpler alphabet without their written language devolving into a mess. If you have ever tried reading romaji transliterations, you'll know it's incredibly difficult to read due it's syllabic nature leading to excessively long words and even harder to understand due to homophones.

>>10719298
>You can learn to read English, in a fashion, in less than a day.
Lol, what? No you can't. If you think familiarity with characters constitutes "reading", then you can knock kana out in a day as well.

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>>10719290
Can you please elaborate?

> pulls shit out of his ass
No really, please elaborate. I'm waiting.

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>>10719303
By read I mean pronounce. I shouldn't have to clarify that for you.

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>>10719308
>I shouldn't have to clarify that for you.
Actually you should because knowing the pronunciation of a character is completely different from literacy. And if that's your argument, kana is easier to learn to pronounce.

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>>10719290
Pretty much this. Everyone that think this are fucking morons.

Good luck memorizing a billion homonyms in a clusterfuck of roman letters or kana. Kanji exist to split these apart to some degree and making it easier for gaijin to learn the language.

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>>10719308
>By read I mean pronounce.
You cannot do even this in a day.

Read this: >>10719285

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>>10719312

You can't just learn kana and use that to read out whole sentences. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>10719317
That's why I said after a fashion. Even if your pronunciation is slightly off chances are you can still be understood

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>>10719314
>>10719303
>You cannot write japanese with latin characters.

Every language can be expressed with latin characters.
This is just a fault of the popular, yet stupid, romaji system. I'll make a better system. I'll call you when I'm done. Here hold my beer.

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>>10719333
Just put it down somewhere. It'll get warm if I hold it.

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>>10719333
>Every language can be expressed with latin characters.

That may be the case. It isn't going to make it any easier though.

[Anonymous No.]

>You cannot write japanese with latin characters.

Every language can be expressed with latin characters.
This is just a fault of the popular, yet stupid, romaji system. I'll make a better system. I'll call you when I'm done. Here hold my beer.

>>>10719335
sry the edit bro.

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>>10719156
That feel. I have to come up with mnemonics for all of those. Thank god for kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the CorePlus so shitty after getting to around 7000 words?

Tons of dupes and weird readings.

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>>10719156
>>10719345
Many of those "kana-only" words actually have kanji, just unused in regular writing (or, in many cases, used quite often ever since computers with their IMEs and unicodes came along and made them viable again). You could try learning those. Helped me quite a few times.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Genki

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>>10719416
I guess I shouldn't be surprised this exists.

I kind of want this, but more of it and better.

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>>10719341
There are those click-noise languages. I don't think you could express those with latin characters.

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>>10719420
I'm surprised that even it exists but fortune summoners porn don't

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty cute that NEET blogshitposting gets thrown out the door but /lang/ blogshitposting gets to stay.

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>>10719428
Use apostrophes and shit

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>>10719435
How the fuck would that help?

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>>10719439
They would denote where you'd click. Bungo bon'go 'ambino.

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>>10719434
NEET: 0
Otaku: 1

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>>10719454
Whatever the score may be at the end of the day, hypocrisy wins.

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>>10719452
These are languages that consist entirely of various click noises. Not just one, not in combination with other noises, just click noises, and lots of different ones too. Experiment a little, see how many different noises you can make with your tongue and mouth that doesn't invole your vocal chord. It's quite a lot.

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>>10719463
Oh well fuck em. I'm sure they have their own system.

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>>10719434
It was for the board's own good.

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>>10718939
hahaha have fun with the homophones

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>>10719046
>japanese too hard
>kanji too hard
>et cetera....
the usual

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>>10719157

Its true that they often dont have anything to do with the kanji they are in. but like RTK told you you have to make stories to remember them.

Woman + stone is jealousy. I remembered this kanji with the following sentence: If a woman sees another womans big (jewel) stone she becomes jealous.

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>>10719482
this retarded argument every single fucking time

how do they communicate when speaking, genius? do they need to write down everything they say to each other because it's impossible to go by context?

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>>10719498
He's talking about the vocab grinding process. It's harder to push through without kanji.

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>>10719491
I don't think anyone in this thread has said the language itself is difficult

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>>10719498
intonation

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>>10719494

Whereas in English you just need to remember how the word sounds to write it down. Telephone is going to be written tellyphown or tellifone or something like that and if you're typing it will autocorrect to what you need anyway. No mnemonics required.

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>>10719498
They write it in their heads and telepathically transmit each sentence into the other person's mind.

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>>10719472
And keeping language blogshitposting is good for the board how exactly? Both themes era equally harmful.

>>10719506
Indeed. Everyone is entertained talking about other languages An off-topic thread that's gone off topic. Lovely.

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>>10719526
Both themes are* equally harmful.

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>>10719513
>intonation
how is this related in any fucking way

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>>10719526
Get a load of this sperggeneral. Maybe you should just ignore this thread if you don't like it.

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>>10719323
Yes you can. Especially since kanji will often be simplified into their kana readings. There's a term for it, but I've forgotten what it is. With hiragana alone, you should be able to "read" children's books. Of course, without grammar, you aren't actually reading anything.

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>>10719526
Go back to /q/ if you must whine. Or didn't anyone pay attention to your previously made thread on the matter?

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>>10719543
A thread with no place in /jp/ with people telling me to go back to /q/ to say the obvious. I don't know how many layers of irony your post has but I think I can't penetrate them.

>>10719541
Why are NEET threads not equally ignored then?

I'm not even NEET. I just don't like hypocrisy.

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>>10719542
Reading a children's book all written in shit doesn't cut it. I'm talking about newspapers and websites.

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>>10719498
do you even read Japanese?

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>>10719554
Again, most things concerning the public will have both the kanji and the kana pronunciation. I just remembered, it's called furigana.

Even if you knew all of the alphabet, you wouldn't be able to read newspapers and websites. English is notoriously inconsistent in its pronunciation and anything above children's books will likely contain words that are too difficult for someone who has "learned english" in one day. Kana will be pronounced the same way (except in particles) every single time. Face it, Japanese is an easier system to learn by your definition of "reading."

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>>10719568
yes

now elaborate

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>>10719553
It's because NEET threads attract /r9k/ and /soc/ shit, while Japanese threads are only really appropriate for /jp/ and /lang/, but /lang/ is practically dead.

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>>10719569
>English is notoriously inconsistent
That's true but it's always exaggerated during these arguments.

>Japanese is an easier system to learn by your definition
If everything is written in kana which we know it is not

I'm going to bed now we'll resume this tomorrow.

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>>10719577
Language learning threads attract people with translation requests and other weeaboos who don't know a single shit about the language and will demand you spoon feed them every information and resource they want. Meanwhile there's enough of a /soc/ part to these threads since everyone is enjoying a good old blog festival about their cards like they're in some tarot convention.

>while Japanese threads are only really appropriate for /jp/ and /lang/, but /lang/ is practically dead

At least don't be a retard and lurk the board before spouting fake nonsense. /lang/ is alive and kicking with a japanese language discussion right on top. Last reply on April 7th. Or will you miss the image feature that is always here to allow you to post reaction images, anime girls and screencaps of your progress no-one cares about? You should be used to slow boards since we're on /jp/, but considering there's a sister thread on /a/, I sometimes wonder about the origin of some of the posters in these threads.

Why are my off-topic posts in an off-topic thread getting deleted when there's tons of off-topic discussion going on in this off-topic thread?

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>>10719523

>joining a discussion in an anki thread
>think the jap. language is stupid

just let us alone

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>>10719645
Please do not misuse the quoting feature.

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>>10719641
Because Janny is buttfrustrated.

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>>10719571
you don't

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>>10719641
And they're here to stay. You whining or expressing your opinions in this thread isn't going to change anything. Deal with it.

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>>10719703
Why are you so sure that they're here to stay? Are you perhaps the OP who happens to be the janitor?

My opinion is fact: these threads are off-topic. There are boards dedicated to this topic's discussion (and if you really need images to bloat your ego, I advise you to go back to /a/ where these threads in their current form origina from). They have no place in /jp/. You dismiss all proof and tell me to deal with it. You and whoever else feels entitled enough to be on your side do not belong here. Yet you damage /jp/ to accomodate your shit instead of either adapting to the board or leaving it.

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>>10719718
(originate* from)

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>>10719703
Who NSJ/a/Y here?

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>>10719718
This nerd is on fire!
Nah, but really I wouldn't give two fucks if lang threads were to be banned from /jp/. And as you said there's /lang/(which is a hundred times better than these threads). I'd still rather have this thread instead of something that's even shittier.(NEET threads).

[Anonymous No.]

Japanese isn't hard. It's just that it requires a lot of effort. Some things are hard because they are difficult to understand. Others are hard because they require a lot of work, but the work itself is simple.

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>>10719794
Something being allowed just because it's one notch less shittier than other shitposts is not enough reason to let a thread stay.

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>>10719794
>And as you said there's /lang/(which is a hundred times better than these threads).
Japanese /lang/ thread is actually good? I thought everyone was just trolling to get people to go away.

[Anonymous No.]

Anki is awful, still can't understand how it gets so much praise

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>>10719827
I'm curious.
Would you still dabble about NEET threads if the official rules got updated with it being removed from the list?

>>10719847
They're awesome.

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>>10719849
edgy

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>>10719849
Try Memrise. It broke when they updated the site, but it might be fixed now, I'm not sure.

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>>10719849
Obviously it doesn't work for everyone, it's definitely better than flash cards though.

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>>10719849
Why are you blaming anki that you're an idiot?

[Anonymous No.]

H-how am I d-doing, /jp/-sama...? ど。。どうもありがとう。。すみません。。。

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>>10719983
>anki in english
doing wrong

[Anonymous No.]

has anyone tried just studying a bunch of cards in like a day and then reviewing them over another 2 days, or should I just stay steady?

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>>10719992
I don't see anything wrong with that, especially for a beginner.

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>>10719983

i should really delete old cards.

[Anonymous No.]

What is a good grammar deck?

[Anonymous No.]

What they could have done is leave a bunch of kanji lying around for the homophones and get rid of all multi-kanji and non-homophone words, using kana instead. AND introducing fucking spaces into their language, which would make a jumbled mess of kana readable unlike when you write everything together. You'd be left with a perfectly readable language with two alphabets and at most 600 simple kanji, and you could forget about their different onyomi because each of them would represent a word with an unique reading, since all the words where they appear with different readings would now be either represented by another kanji or written in kana.

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>>10722347
Tae Kim Clozed deck. I really recommend going through it once if you haven't already and then from the examples trying to form and create your own sentences. I learned a lot from that.

Or you could create your own deck as you learn.

After Tae Kim you could go through something like Dictionary of Japanese Grammar. Highly informative and is overall more complicated as it uses linguistic terms.

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>>10722348
But I already know about 1000 characters. Are you trying to waste all the effort I already put into the language just so you can be lazy?

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>>10722348
Grinding kana only words is a pain.

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>>10722348
Kanji doesn't actually make japanese harder to learn, and anyone who thinks it does isn't far enough into their studies to have an opinion that means anything.

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>>10722371
meant going through the written guide before going through the clozed deck*

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>>10722372

I am in the process of learning it, that's why I'm complaining. Shit gets really confusing after the first 600, and that's where I'm at. Yeah, at this point I can recognize absolutely all the radicals in the new kanji, but that doesn't make them any easier to learn. It might be wasted effort but it would be better in the long run.


>>10722374

No more than grinding words in any other language, kanji is just an extra liability.

>>10722381

Yes it does. I can watch anime without subs most of the time but I can't even read manga without having to look up shit every panel, much less VNs or books.

Why are you guys against something that would make learning and using the language faster and optimized?

[Anonymous No.]

Wouldn't it be easier if they just replaced every language with esperanto?

[Anonymous No.]

Kanji isn't even hard to learn.

Learning 贔屓 is easier than say pennsylvania. Once you've reached a certain level, all you need to really know is 貝x3 & 尸+貝. It only looks "hard" if you have no idea what you're doing.

You just need to brute memorize each spelling for every single English word with weird as fuck spellings from fuck knows where in Europe.

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>>10722348
We need 漢字 to write 漢語. It's as simple as that. We can't really reduce the number to 600, or any other number for that matter.

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>>10722391

Nah, it would devolve into an unrecognizable mix of unintelligible dialects.

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>>10722399
Not with the internet and worldwide media.

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>>10722390
Get back to me when you've grinded at least 5000 words and tell me if you think memorizing vocab using kana only is any easier than words using kanji.

You'll probably change your opinion about that when you get there.

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>>10722392

Come on, in japanese you need to brute memorize each spelling for every single japanese word with weird as fuck spellings from fuck knows where in China. And there are more radicals in kanji than letters in the english alphabet.

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>>10722404

I will, I'm just bitching to reset my frustration meter so that I can keep on grinding.

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>>10722404
>grinding words
fuck off
>>10722390
Those have harder vocab. If you know the words already, you should be able to read them after seeing them in kanji once or twice, and therefore should learn to read very quickly if you actually put some effort in. If you don't know the words yet, then you can't really blame it on kanji then, can you?

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>>10722390
Can we trade places? I find reading and writing in Japanese to be much easier than speaking or listening to it. If I come across a word I don't know, I can always infer on the kanji's meaning to know what the world means when I'm reading, but I can't do that when I'm listening to someone. It's like trying to read with only kana. It makes my head swirl.

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>>10722404
>tfw 7000 words and 80% of your word resets are kana only words

[Anonymous No.]

What are some good drugs for motivation and improving study capacity? I'm always afraid of studying because I think I'm wasting my time if I am not doing it with 100% attention, so I need some medicine.

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>>10722408
> in japanese you need to brute memorize each spelling for every single japanese word
Are you serious? Are you some retard brute memorizing 今年、来年、今週、来週、今月、来月？How much simpler do you need it to be?

>fuck knows where in China.
China is one country, one language, one set of root words to learn. Europe is a clusterfuck of different shit.

>

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>>10722417
Maybe you have a learning disability?

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>>10722422
not really. 7000 words in 4 months is pretty good

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>>10722421
ことし isn't the best example to use there.

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>>10722421
>China is one country, one language, one set of root words to learn. Europe is a clusterfuck of different shit.
Not really, there’s a ton of different dialects that are about as different from each other as European languages from one family are.
And the Chinese words got to Japan in waves, so the Japanese pronunciation for kanji does differ from when and where the words were loaned.

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>>10722421

>今年、来年、今週、来週、今月、来月

Oh come on, those hardly count as an example. You do have to brute memorize what 今, 来, 年, 週 and 月 mean.

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>>10722431
>Not really, there’s a ton of different dialects
Yes, really. Ancient written chinese is all Classical chinese no matter what part of china you were from. Hell, classical chinese was used in Japan, Vietnam, and every other shitting country in the region with the same set of characters, meaning, and grammar for centuries.

Only verbal languages are dialects, and Japan doesn't give a fuck about Chinese spoken dialects.

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>>10722430
I bet your statistics are shit though. Post your chart.

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>>10722435
You have to remember what next, previous, week, year and month mean in English too.

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>>10722438
>and Japan doesn't give a fuck about Chinese spoken dialects.
Japan does. The pronunciation of a character in Japanese is often traced back to the time period it was loaned in and where they got it from

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>>10722438
>and Japan doesn't give a fuck about Chinese spoken dialects.
Where do you think the onyomi came from?

[Anonymous No.]

As much as I'd like to shit on onyomi, japanese would actually be much more confusing with kunyomi only.

[Anonymous No.]

Uh, this is almost certainly the wrong place to ask, but could an anon get help starting off? I really don't know where to begin.

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>>10722440
inb4 ppl whine about the number of crams the first/second month

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>>10722451
anki.com

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>>10722444
>>10722445
It doesn't matter, they're all set in stone in 2013. You learn them, you're done.

泡包砲胞 is all hou.
令冷齢玲 is all rei.

It's the easiest shit in the world.
If you just stop bitching and used that time to actually study the language, you'd be much further ahead by now.

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>>10722451

The kana. Don't even get started on other shit before you can read kana as fluidly as you read roman letters.

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>>10722456

>If you just stop bitching and used that time to actually study the language, you'd be much further ahead by now.

Isn't this true for absolutely everything in life?

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>>10722456
What makes you think I‘m bitching? I’m just telling you that the readings of kanji in Japanese are definitely based on various locales in China depending on which wave the character got to the country.

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>>10722462
nice post

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>>10722467
thx bb

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>>10722454
>inb4 ppl whine about the number of crams the first/second month
well, you've stopped now, so it seems like you've learned the lesson, no sense in complaining now

[Anonymous No.]

How do I completely delete decks? I have a couple of them lying around that I never used and it's bothering my autism.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way I can add in the missing jouyou kanji that is shown in kanji stats? I've got about 115 left and its a pain manually adding them in. I just want them all added at once and I'll make a mnemonic on the spot when I go through them.

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>>10722691
http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html
>You can click the gears button to the right of a deck in order to rename or delete decks, or customize their options.
refer to the manual next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10722392
>貝x3 & 尸+貝
exactly, radicals.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any deck with the radicals only? I'd like to study them separately before I get into more complex kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

What are you guys studying Japanese for? VN? LN? Manga? Anime? All of the above?

Personally, I started out studying for manga and VNs, but as I got more advanced, I branched out into all of the above + regular Japanese novels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10722877
I just thought it was something more interesting and worthwhile to do than sitting around masturbating all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10722696
Why does it matter if they're jouyou or not? Just add kanji when you see them.

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>>10723042
Maybe he's preparing for JLPT or something.

Though, I have to agree the jouyou list isn't worth crap. You have shit like 揃、呑、闇、闖、and 睨　being all over the place.

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>>10722877

I started almost 8 years ago. My original intention was for use in watching raw anime, but it became an entity in itself.

I study Japanese for the sake of studying Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723058
So what's wrong with either of them, exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723147
They're non jouyou (except 闇) and commonly used.

[Anonymous No.]

402 cards in 35 minutes.

Maybe I should add 1-2 more decks.

[Anonymous No.]

へ へ
の の
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[Anonymous No.]

>>10723250
>>>/jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>Have you done your reps yet?
5x5 squats
5x5 OHP
1x5 deadlifts

[Anonymous No.]

>>10722877
I want to live in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723304

Then go live there. You'll actually learn it much faster if you are forced to live surrounded by it. You will also learn actual japanese instead of anime and vn talk that will make you sound like a little girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723230
>They're non jouyou.

Oh, right.

Not knowing this piece of information (and assuming they are) made me interpret your post as the exact opposite of what you were trying to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723319

>You will also learn actual japanese instead of anime and vn talk that will make you sound like a little girl.

This is a myth.

The problem isn't that anime, and VNs don't speak Japanese, the problem is that they won't teach the cultural associations in language, before the words are learnt themselves.

A problem from the other perspective may be a Japanese not understanding the concept of swearing - they have heard "shitty" used as an adjective in a show, then use it liberally at a business lunch with an English speaking client, without realising the social faux-pas they have committed.

Giving advice like that is relevant to only those at entry level, and is somewhat damaging to anyone beyond that. Anime and VNs are fine learning media, provided you learn what gendered language, and humble and honorific forms are first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723361
People who tell others not to learn from anime et al. are probably the same people who insist on teaching verbs in their polite forms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723319
>sound like a little girl.
I don't think that calling yourself 俺 and the others お前 or てめえ sounds like a little girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723390

>people who insist on teaching verbs in their polite forms

I took a brief course in college, but dropped it almost immediately due to this.

It is so deconstructively backwards that I cannot fathom why this became the norm, aside from an assumption that students would emigrate enmass midway through courses and offend an entire nation.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty well done with kana and I've decided to get into kanji but I'm pretty confused... If I see the character for child, do I pronounce it shi or ko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723487
こ

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723490
Ok, so ko. Why? What difference would it make to pronounce it shi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723487

This is why you learn words, with their kanji, not learn kanji on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723487
It's simple: Onyomi for compound words, Kunyomi when it's used in a word by itself

Nah, I'm just kidding about it being simple. There are exceptions EVERYWHERE, but the basic method is sound

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723500
I don't understand. Isn't ko the word pronunciation of the character child?
Am I just retarded here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723507
But what's the point of pronouncing a word two different ways?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723500
Just as an aside to this... What do people actually do to learn a new word or kanji they come across? Write it down a bunch of times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723487
Let's put this this way: if you see the character "o", how do you pronounce it? /oʊ/? /ɑ/? /a/? /o/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723515

子 is ko, yes.

Within a compound, it may be ko, go, shi, ji, or even other exceptions.

There is no rule to this, which is why kanji should be learnt with the words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723528
/o/ because i'm not a dirty anglo scum

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723528
But that's a letter. The character for child represents an idea... Right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723515
e is a letter, it doesn't mean it's a word by itself.

For words go to jisho.org

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723541
http://jisho.org/words?jap=*%E5%AD%90*&eng=&dict=edict&common=on

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723540
If a letter, which represents a sound, can be pronounced in a multitude of ways, why are you expecting a kanji, which represents an idea, to be pronounced in one way only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723562
I... I feel like I'm missing something. In english, the object we call a child is pronounced in a specific way so that when communicated, the object to which itself sis understood. Calling a child both ko and shi sounds seems to me the equivalent of calling it both child and rake sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723581
The object itself*

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723581
Nobody ever said it was pronounced し. Did you even click on that link I posted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723581

There is more than one word for child, in English, is there not?

Some words even have multiple readings, in English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723581
In English, the idea of child is not always pronounced the same way. For example, in the word "child" it is pronounced "child", but in the word "pedophile", it is pronounced "pedo", in the word "pediatrics", it is pronounced "ped", and in the word "kindergarten", it is pronounced "kind".

[Anonymous No.]

Only easy kanji has a lot of irregularities, like 子

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723058
>闖 all over the place
what the fuck are you reading. I've only ever seen like one word with it, and I think I've only seen it once in some ultra-hipster-kanji nitroplus VN

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723607
A better example would be how child is pronounced completely different in "children".

Btw, does everyone else find the new 4chanx update to be as shitty as I do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723983
What are you talking about? It's even in shitting OreImo, for fucks sakes. It's not some super-duper-hard shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724001
Being rare doesn't mean it doesn't show up. It just means it doesn't show up frequently. Even if one author uses it in a relatively easy work, it can still be rare if most authors don't use it at all. Especially compared to things like 闇 which show up like twice a minute even in easier works.

[Anonymous No.]

I-I haven't even finished learning Katakana...I'm just so unmotivated. I don't even know how to use Anki.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth it to learn the kunyomi of each kanji, or is the onyomi almost always used due to jukugo?

Also, thoughts on the Kanjidamage method?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724061
Might as well give up now as you will not succeed and it will only be a waste of time. Goodbye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723630
plus 良 and 来

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724077
I-I'll prove you wrong! I'll keep learning, and fucking show you, random anon! JUST YOU WATCH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724086

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724086
お前みたいな口先だけの無為無策の馬鹿じゃ無理。

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724086
No but seriously, I wasn't trying to do that. You should really just give up now. You'll thank me later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724144
I'm not going to give up! I will show you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10724154
Good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>大変なことしちゃったよ。

can someone explain what does this part mean:
>しちゃった

[Anonymous No.]

Which order should I do, Tae Kim for grammar and then vocabulary grinding, Tae Kim for grammar and then straight into VNs and similar and learn all the vocabulary on the go, or study of radicals to search for individual kanji with ease and then grammar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10725665
Casual version of　てしまう=ちゃう combined with the verb 「する」 conjugated to past tense resulting in 「しちゃった」.

Used to express an action that's done or happened unintentionally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10725681
It seems you don't know your kanji yet. I would start with kanji if I were you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10725760
You're an idiot.
>>10725681
Whatever you do, make sure to learn things one at a time! You wouldn't want to get overwhelmed right?

[Anonymous No.]

I have two questions if anyone could help

1. Do the words 近くて and 遠くてindicte direction of movement or just position?

2. Is 切り離す残酷な夢 present tense or future?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10726076
>近くて and 遠くてindicte direction of movement
>direction of movement
W-What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10726076
2 is not even a sentence, it's lacking a verb

[Anonymous No.]

>>10726076
Position. There are verbs for that reason like （近づく） as both of those you listed are adjectives meant to be used for describing things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10726076
>1. Do the words 近くて and 遠くてindicte direction of movement or just position?

Just position. As far as I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10726076

2 is non-past.

Present tense isn't really a thing in Japanese.

Even ている verbs are just ongoing actions.

[Anonymous No.]

Gone through all cards from JLPT 5 to JLPT 2. Having more trouble memorizing JLPT 1 vocab for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it bad practise to learn words as kanji if they are mostly spelled with hiragana? For example, 内輪 has easy kanji but it's spelled with hiragana most of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10726472
>>10726473

Ok, thanks. I had a feeling but I just wanted to make sure.

>>10726463
>>10726515

I believe 切り離す would be the verb. On that note, is a "cruel dream" doing the cutting or is something cut "like a cruel dream"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10727558
The opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10727558
I do that all the time, I always write 有難う but I mostly see it ありがとう

[Anonymous No.]

>>10727569

Verbs before nouns like that are equivalent to adverbs.

走る人 ≡ person that runs

食べてる猫 ≡ cat that is eating

切り離す残酷な夢 ≡ cruel dream that detaches*

*I assume this is detachment from reality, or dispelling an illusion, but I don't know the context.

A sentence doesn't need a verb or copula, >>10726463 is wrong. That's probably a little too much to go into right now.

An example of a real verb would be:

残酷な夢が切り離す≡ for the cruel dream to become detached

Read up on transitive, and intransitive verbs to find out why it would be "to detach the cruel dream".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10727621

>why it would be

*why it wouldn't be

[Anonymous No.]

>>10727569

Verbs before nouns like that are equivalent to adverbs.

走る人 ≡ person that runs

食べてる猫 ≡ cat that is eating

切り離す残酷な夢 ≡ cruel dream that detaches*

*I assume this is detachment from reality, or dispelling an illusion, but I don't know the context.

A sentence doesn't need a verb or copula, >>10726463 is wrong. That's probably a little too much to go into right now.

An example of a real verb would be:

残酷な夢を切り離す≡ to detach the cruel dream

(sorry if someone saw the other version - I make a lot of mistakes and get easily confused)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10727639

I see, thanks alot.

[Anonymous No.]

u-um where is a good starting point?
I keep lurking in /jp/ but I always miss the links...
any kind anons wanna help?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10728264
I don't usually link cross-board but /a/ has a decent guide for self-learners.

>>/a/83202187

[Anonymous No.]

Oops.
>>>/a/83202187

[Anonymous No.]

>>10728284
I got 404
and the reason I was asking was since the last reps thread I saw (about 2 days prior) had links/guides in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10728292
Could've just used the archive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10728312
I tried searching, apparently my google-fu isn't strong enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>10728317
What? The thread I linked is still up.
>>>/a/83202187

[Anonymous No.]

How many new words can you add each day without getting too much to review? I'm thinking in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731053
I was doing 30 kanji per day(+words associated with each one) at my height, and I felt like I could do more. I gradually slacked, going to 20, 10, and now 5. It's not a really super important for me to learn them at such a high pace now that I'm at around 2600-ish now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731053

Depends how powerful you are.

Some can manage 500 reviews a day, some will struggle with 50.

If you do add too many, you can always stop, and spend time working down the reviews, then add more cards when you can handle the rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731054
>>10731061
Thanks. Yeah, I think between 50~100 reviews a day is enough for me, so I'm trying to figure out how many new words I can learn every day.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731071

Mine says "studied 95 cards in 75 minutes today". Maybe I'm just retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731071
You must be very powerful, being able to handle 600+ a day (assuming they weren't just piled up).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731076
for just reading/recognition? not really. I was writing every single kanji at least once when I had 400 reviews a day,I imagine 600 for just recognition isn't much worse.

I just do it as soon as I wake up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731070
50 new cards a day equal to 300~ reviews a day on average for me. So around 20 would be optimal.

>>10731076
Not really. It's just that I'm much more productive during public transits compared to doing them at home. At home I usually take hours to complete them because of procrastination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731053
Something to note is that if you add say, 50 words per day, you'll average at around 500 reviews a day. It mentions this in the manual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731083
This was exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731075
Why would you be retarded? His screenshot is completely out of context of what he is studying, how he is studying, how old of a deck that is, how long overall he has been studying, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

So, do you guys plan/ever plan int he past how much you'd want to finish within X amount of time?

I found telling myself "I'm going to finish jouyou kanji in 3 months" gave me the motivation to channel my autism powers into anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731105

4189 cards for review.

For the first time in months I'm reviewing more cards than are becoming due, per day, so I should eventually clear this, which is my current goal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731105
10000 words within 7 months, doesn't have to be 10000 mature though.

131 days in and at 6923 with 5000 words mature.

I might drop CorePlus though after finishing JLPT1 as that's the only JLPT deck I have left and just add words from material I read instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731105
10000 words within 7 months, doesn't have to be 10000 mature though.

131 days in and at 6923 with 5135 words mature.

I might drop CorePlus though after finishing JLPT1 as that's the only JLPT deck I have left and just add words from material I read instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731108

Actually, scratch that.

I am abandoning the deck and starting a new one based on words I actually encounter - not what is in newspapers most often.

I should have done this 3 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731168
3 years to learn 4000 words? I learned 4k in like 3 months and I wasn't even trying that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731293
Y-You too buddy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731293

I have been going for 6 years. I meant that I should have stopped 3 years ago when it became apparent I should change, but I ignored it.

There's no point comparing my timescale to anyone else's, as I am inept, but will persevere.

[Anonymous No.]

I can never find the motivation to study. I just get overwhelmed after awhile and fall behind until I just stop doing it only to try again a few months later with renewed hope.

How do you keep on it /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731358
You just get used to it after a while. It becomes a routine basically. If you've even invested a month's worth of time there's no way you'd want to give all that work up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10731358
Stop listening to ankitards and go read an easy eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

So Anki allows me to sort by a chosen field in its browser but won't let me sort the actual viewing order of the deck? What kind of shit is this? Is there an easy way to do this?

I just downloaded a 3300 四字熟語 deck that has a graded (A, B+, B etc.) frequency field so I want the most frequent cards first. For some retarded reason the shared deck didn't come that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10732260
Freeze everything beyond A, finish that, unlock B, finish, unlock next, etc...

[Anonymous No.]

What's the deal with という? I was reading the grammar guide and this thig is all over the place, and each time it means one thing. At first it was for quotes but it seems it can be used for just about anything. What exactly does it mean and when is it used?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10732826
Just as you already realized, its meaning is dependent on its context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10732835

Then I should assume half of the time it's a generic verb you throw in when you don't want to use any other verb, for the sentence to make grammatical sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10732826
Seriously, someone explain it to me too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10732864

download proper grammar books like A Dictionary of [Basic, Intermediate, Adanced] Japanese Grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10732279
good idea, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723401
No it just makes you sound like a masculine prick

[Anonymous No.]

>>10723319
>anime and vn talk that will make you sound like a little girl.
I want to be a little girl though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10734421
masculine prick == alpha

[Anonymous No.]

Can you translate this please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10734494

Hello, my name is ken, and this is my story:

Once when I was a boy in middle school a young Japanese girl came to our class from glorious Japan and intended to teach us about her rich and glorious culture but I was an immature foreigner and I thought I was too cool for that so I acted like an idiot. But she was still kind to me and treated me like a friend. I was moved and from that moment on I decided I would learn Japanese and fly over to glorious Japan so I can thank her for changing my life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10734494
First, nothing prevents you from looking up all the foreign words yourself. Second, this text won't be funny if you read it without having studied the language yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10734524
It's not funny even if you do understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10734591
Well, I chuckled reading it.

[Anonymous No.]

I read the guide that's usually up on /a/, and do people actually use kanjidamage? Do you find it effective? Maybe I'm just inept, but it seemed to make things more confusing for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10736412
It really helps to read the How To guide if you haven't already

I like it. It's a very bare bones approach to Kanji, but it works

[Anonymous No.]

>>10736412
I don't use it. English is not my native language so all the slang goes way beyond my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10736412
I just read that "guide" out of curiosity, and it's a pretty long and convoluted way of saying "choose a method you like and practice a lot".

[Anonymous No.]

>download old pokemon ROM for nostalgia
>start playing
>fuck this is in Japanese... wait a second.
>continue playing, looking at dictionary occasionally
>learn a lot of words just from dicking around/seeing them again and again

I've learned more Japanese from just playing this game than in any of my textbooks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10736727

Bleh, I envy your ability to keep going even in the face of having to look shit up in a dictionary.

I don't think I even finished a single chapter of Yotsuba& because having to look up a word every other speech bubble broke the flow and took fucking ages.

Maybe I'll try Sweet Home in Japanese. I actually like that a game a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

Which advanced japanese textbook do /jp/ recommend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10738247
Visual Novels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10736412
I used it. Mainly because of lack of experience. Turned out well in the end even though I probably dicked around with kanji too long. Doesn't really matter now because I'm done with JLPT1 soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10738263
But it isn't working for me.
I read eroge every day without any problem but I can't read even a 2 sentences wikipedia article.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10738288
Read DOIJG or DOAJG. Make sure to form and create your own sentences from the examples given to get the most of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10738288
that doesn't make sense

work on your vocabulary or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>10738288
If I were you, I would pick some interesting article from wikipedia. Then I'd sort out all words and grammar that I didn't know and add to anki. Just make sure to pick something that has vocab you're interested in.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know where I can find a list of words in F/SN sorted by frequency?

[Anonymous No.]

What to put on the front side of cards, the english meaning or the kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10738563
Depends on what you want to memorize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10738572
Well I figured I'd mostly want to read stuff, so I've been putting the character on the front side...

[Anonymous No.]

I just tried one of those Gung Ho shots. Managed to study for like 6-7 hours.

inb4 ステマ

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw circles are easier to draw but the made the sun a stupid square

[Anonymous No.]

Which online dictionary should I use if I want to search for kanji and words by components? I was told to use jisho here, but I've found the radical system to be a mess. I can't just copy and paste the characters because I want to read from an eroge, so I'm stuck with searching for the with radicals. However, half of the time the word I'm looking for doesn't appear even when I'm sure I've selected the right radicals. Should I just switch to using some text extractor instead of looking up kanji by radicals?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10736731
>Bleh, I envy your ability to keep going even in the face of having to look shit up in a dictionary.
>I don't think I even finished a single chapter of Yotsuba& because having to look up a word every other speech bubble broke the flow and took fucking ages.
>Maybe I'll try Sweet Home in Japanese. I actually like that a game a lot.
I'm having a similar problem. I feel obliged to add any word that pops up in the text to my deck so that I could read it later without having to slow down anywhere, so I can't read more than a few speech bubbles or sentences at a time. The same thing used to occur earlier when I was studying English, also. I wonder if this can be considered a manifestation of OCD. By the way, I found 苺ましまろ to be generally easier to understand than よつばと without a dictionary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740717
Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740717
There is also this thing:
http://jisho.org/kanji/radicals/
However, I think you are right that it will be more efficient to use a text extractor. You don't need to machine translate extracted texts, so everything should be fair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740758

Yes. What's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740769
http://jisho.org/kanji/radicals/

I use it sometimes, what >>10740765 suggested might be a little more comprehensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740773
>>10740765

I see, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740769
http://www.saiga-jp.com/kanji_dictionary.html

I use it sometimes, what >>10740765 suggested might be a little more comprehensive

[Anonymous No.]

>>10718966
Sounds like a good idea to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740717
I like zkanji. It has tons of features.
You can look up kanji by radicals or by writing the character correctly. You can also find complex characters through simpler characters.
Has animated stroke orders for each character. Example sentences for most common words which are broken down into clickable indvidual words you can look up.
Very convenient dictionary which can deconjugate words for you.
Even a built-in srs thing and a test mode which I use for vocab.

But you may also want to just use a text hooker+any dictionary you like in your situation.

[Anonymous No.]

When i try to download a shared deck, i am "unable to connect to server" anyone know how to solve this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10741444
update your anki

[Anonymous No.]

I've just updated, and i find this new layout confusing. Where do i look at the different cards already in the my, what you did in the old anki by pressing browse?

[Anonymous No.]

How do you download shared decks with anki 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10741507
You click on the decks tab and on the bottom it should say "Get Shared" click on that and it'll open up your browser then you simply pick a deck and download it

[Anonymous No.]

How do i make the japanese plugin work with anki 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10741591
anki.com/faq
fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

Im using 3 decks for anki.
1 for vocabs
1 for kanjis
1 for listening comprehension

Last one is very important imo.
you will learn a lot new words this way

[Anonymous No.]

>>10743164
>Last one is very important imo.

Could you recommendations for a shared deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10743174

Im using this for a few days now. Never done a listening anki set before, but I already see how I get better at understand the words, and especially where one word ends and beginns.

ankiweb.net/shared/info/1465706065

[Anonymous No.]

>>10743191

Thank you. Much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

Does online syncing work properly in anki, these days?

In the past, I had a several thousand card deck all reset to new cards when I used a second computer - is it safe to use it on multiple computers, now, or should I not risk it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10740821
Thanks for this. Looks very handy.

[Anonymous No.]

違える [ちがえる] v1,vt
(1) to change/to alter
(2) to mistake/to make a mistake
(3) to fail to keep (e.g. one's promise)
(4) to dislocate (e.g. one's neck)

>dislocate
>neck

Have you dislocated your neck today, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10743228
I've found it pretty dangerous. My Internet connection isn't always very reliable and if it gets tangled in the syncing process the whole deck gets corrupted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744680

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744680
I'm not sure what you're trying to say or what you're amused by

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744694
woah! is that a feel?!

[Anonymous No.]

Is cramming bad or something? Why do you guys hate it so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744687
Same thing here. My WLAN connection isn't particularly good, and will crash with an 90% probability each time I sync Anki. Doing a full sync of a 10MB deck is very annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10719312

this

all the characters have clear cut pronunciations (besides は and へ when used as grammatical particles) in Japanese.

but in English, pronunciation is a fucking dragon that you have to slay with your bare hands

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/, is it true if I only listen to niconico streams for listening comprehension I will sound like the nico robot when speaking Jap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744754

Isn't cramming a technique where one reads a huge amount of information, for an exam the following day, then completely forgets it?

That's the opposite of space repetition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744762
>>10744687
>>10743228

I have no problems with syncing my PC with my iPad. Once you synced all your decks you only need to upload and update a small abount after each finished deck.
lets say I have finished all 100 repetitions for my kanjis. I close anki on my PC and he syncs in like 3 seconds. very unlikely that the wlan connection will be interupted in this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744780
Yeah but kana isn't the only character set you learn in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10744880
There's nothing wrong with cramming words you learned for that day or forgotten words or something.