Romance of the Three Kingdoms

[Anonymous No.]

So I did some internet searching on the ROTK series and it seems that each one is different from the other, which one should I play, and what are the strengths of each title?
I do know that 12 is a casual piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Read the novel instead.

Anyway, the novel goes to >>>/lit/
the games to >>>/v/
and /jp/ is not Chinese Culture.

[Anonymous No.]

Just go with 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvmIqks5wqI

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469229
Isn't this related? I would assume so, it's a niche Japanese video grand strategy game that deals with an awful lot of statistics.
>>10469230
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469285
No, it really isn't.

Games don't belong on /jp/ just because they're Japanese.

Especially if they're not about cute girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469292
Okay thanks, didn't know that, just that anything goes as long as it's japanese.
Won't pester you guys any longer then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469298
Don't feed the trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469302
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469218
10 is God tier. 7, 8 are great. Fuck 9, 11,and 12.

[Anonymous No.]

they're all different, but they fit into either games where you control an entire nation (which are closer to grand strategy), or games where you control a single officer (which are also very close to grand strategy, but tend to have more RPG elements).
so with that in mind the only 2 worth playing are XI and X, since they're the best of the two categories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469336
>>10469332
Ah, thanks.
XI = EU3
X = CK2?
What are the differences from X and VII, because those are both rpg-centric from what I understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469292
You can create a custom cute girl officer.

[harmless bug No.]

Funny you should ask
Dug up XI a few days ago, and been playing that a lot. Pretty fun if you like strategy and don't mind some micromanagement.

[Anonymous No.]

I remember playing RotTK XI all day and all night at one point last year. Really helps that it was on the PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469379
Love micromanaging as long as it doesn't need Aurora levels of learning.
>>10469404
Yeah, did that with EU3, CK2, M&B:W, Fists of Fury: Beatdown, and a whole lot of other games. But grand strategy games always seem to suck me in for the longest periods of time.

[Anonymous No.]

play Taikou Risshiden instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469412
I'm playing paradox games all the time ever since elementary school. I never get bored of them.

[Anonymous No.]

I can only find X for the ps2.
Has the pc version been translated?

[Anonymous No.]

What does /jp/ think of Sousouden Eiketsuden

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469437
lol, no. Like anybody gives a shit about Koei's PC titles

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469444
It's not that I mind emulating the ps2 one.
Controls on the pc are bound to be more comfortable
Thanks for the information.

[Anonymous No.]

Making touhous in the default game is fun, but I really wish the mod tools were translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469416
>Taikou Risshiden
Looks pretty fun, from what I gather, and the limited video presence on the internet, it's a historical free roam RPG, other than that I don't know what the gameplay is like.
Also, there seems to be no english translations unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the guy with that halberd such a shit?
His dickery pretty much led to his kingdom's downfall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469557
Guan Yu or Lu Bu?
Guan Yu was awesome take that back bitch.
Lu Bu was awesome too, he had to conquer the Heavens as China was too boring for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469565
Guan Yu a shit
For realz
I mean he's a good warrior and all but damn he is supposed to be calm and wise unlike that other brute brother. He lost crucial province and died due to his arrogance and it was gg from there. Fuggin kongming was suposed to win

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469585
He was jewed by schemers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469585
No.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ - Chinese Culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469636,1
they all look the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469636,1
This thread reminds me of the girl whose bangs cover her eyes from Kuragehime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469636
Yes, also letting Cao Cao go free lol wtf?
Isn't he supposed to be a man of loyalty? He should have fuggin known he can't be loyal to two men at war. He should have brought Liu Bei Cao's head

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469704
He didn't know if Liu Bei was alive, he was seperated. He only served Cao Cao to save Liu Bei's wives and save his men.

[Anonymous No.]

del pls Benlisquare

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469715
Naw nigga, I am talking about after Guan was united with his bros. At the Battle of Red Cliffs as Cao was fleeing north, Guan Yu caught him because he gave him MLP

[Anonymous No.]

I've never played one of these Japanese history games, which one is ideal to play on a PC either through normal use or emulation?

My favorite part of Japanese history was when the Chinese states were warring and in videogames. But really that was a serious question.

Also what about Nobunaga's Ambition series?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469752
OP here, from what I'm gathered through research,
X is available only for PS2, so obviously emulation.
XI DOES have a Windows version, unfortunately it does not include the expansion, and the translations that do exist don't really satisfy my requirements, they're all minimal. The PUK is only available in Asian markets, so we're stuck with Vanilla.
Maybe. I'm having difficulty finding torrents for either of those games

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469752
Nobunaga's Ambition is deeper than ROTK gameplay wise, but doesn't get as much exposure in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469785
X is available for the PC, but only in East Asia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469799
Yeah, unfortunately can't read moonrunes and the translations are never 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om6u5umPidM
The PC's UI is so much better than the PS2s, why is Koei so stupid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI_Ojja6wro
Look at that low res shit.
Idiotic, they translated it for the PS2, surely they could use their assets on the PC version?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn now I'm in an ROTK mood. So many hours are about to be lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469853
10 is overrated somewhat, historical events ALWAYS happen unless you do something super major like killing someone, so if in history your PC lost a city, you'll lose it no matter what.
Very frustrating if you want to play the game to do whatever you want, but good for those who just want to observe the game's "history" play out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469882
I liked that aspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470113
Well yeah, sometimes it's cool, but it pisses me off that I would work so hard for a city then have it zap out of possession for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>Three Kingdoms mythos and representations in modern media
>not a part of Japanese culture

Sure. Confucianism wasn't either, I bet, just because it originated in China.

Anyways, ROTK XI was good for the standard strategy fare.

ROTK X and VIII are good if you want something more like an RPG, where you gradually bring an officer (any of your choosing, rather than just a ruler) to greatness. I was personally very enamored of ROTK VIII. I played that one to death in a variety of different scenarios. VII is similar to VIII but overall worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469788
I haven't played too many NA games, but I did like Iron Triangle for the technology system it had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469785
> XI DOES have a Windows version, unfortunately it does not include the expansion, and the translations that do exist don't really satisfy my requirements, they're all minimal.
What's wrong with the official translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470522
>/jp/ related because I like it it's part of Japanese Culture!
Why don't we allow anime too, while we're at it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,1
Excuse me but why are you bumping this shit above my currently hijacked thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,2
You want to shut your fucking mouth please? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,3
Hahahaha. Oh boy.....

You did not seriously just do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,4
Stop talking. Don't even reply to this. Just keep your mouth shut and go back to wherever it is you came from.

[Anonymous No.]

Now that we're back on topic, I've sent moot an e-mail regarding this thread. If you want to talk about Chinese shit, make a China board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,5
And another one bites the dust.

See you in hell, kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,7
I'm pretty sure I told you to keep your mouth shut. Would you like me to do it for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,8
Shouldn't you be hiding in a closet somewhere?

It might give you a few more seconds to remember your shit pile of a life before Satan is using your scrawny ass as a particularly shitty back scratcher.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, are nerds ever getting shitcanned in this thread. Holy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,9
>2013
>believing Satan exists

I've schooled dozens of Christians on /r/atheism, would you like to be next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,11
Are you really going to spend your last minutes cementing your judgment to Hell?

You should read up on Pascal's Wager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,12
>Pascal's Wager

HA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager#Criticism

Suck it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470613,13
>Voltaire

Clearly you're the one who should be sucking here, fagwad. Preferably satirical French dicks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10470522
Oh, alright, 8 is worth a try then.
>>10470613
The PUK is not translated, so I won't be able to take advantage of it.

[Anonymous No.]

I would say that if an English experience is wanted, it's best to play the console versions of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

I will bump this once before checking in a couple hours later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10471125
>The PUK is not translated, so I won't be able to take advantage of it.
I see. Is it possible to install a Japanese PUK onto an English version and have everything translated except for the stuff added in PUK? I would not mind that since figuring out only the new stuff is much easier than figuring everything, especially if you already know some Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10471555
I do not know, I would expect not from what I've read, as the Japanese PUK was made to be compatible with the Japanese version. Maybe they have different checksums?
I just installed XI, so we'll see how it holds up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469332
yeah man, fuck 12, that game's not even out yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>10471599
Yes it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10471575
I also decided to try out English ROTK 11 w/o PUK. I don't have a console nor do I own a PC powerful enough to emulate one, so it seems like the most reasonable way to get into the series for people without solid Japanese. Thank you, OP and other posters for whetting my interest in the series.

My last question would be, how much of a story should I expect? Is this strictly a strategy game or should I expect I some decent amount of dialogues and descriptions of historical events?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10471664
From what I understand, 10 is certainly the best from a consistent view, many events are surefire to happen, in other games, not so much.
8 is also good, because you have a much more "involved" sense of what's going on.

[Anonymous No.]

It's been 6/7 years since PUK was released.
How is there not a full translation yet?

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, so I played the tutorial up to gain 500 TP, that was taking too long, I got max order and will in every city, dunno what I was supposed to do, but was pretty fun! I could see how it could get tedious once you have a lot of cities, is there an "auto govern" function? And where exactly do I create officers?

[Anonymous No.]

This really doesn't belong here, and I fucking love Koei strategy games. Goes in /v/ or /vg/. Try the Grand Strategy General threads or the Musou/East Asian Genocide General threads.

>>10473485
You create officers in the main title screen, and can import them into your scenarios during selection and options. There is an auto-govern function that works fairly decently and has the advantage of starting it's own AP pool so you can issue more commands as an overall force. The only downside is you're leaving decisions to an AI.

>>10471691
No one actually plays these games, and the people that do nearly all understand Japanese or Chinese.

>>10471683
10 and 8 are RPG ones, and those are really up to personal taste. Many people rave about how the RPG ones are superior, but the reality is that you get less flexibility to rule your domain that you would in a ruler only one like 11. All of the games are vastly different, so it's really up to personal taste. I actually like 9 as one of my favorites, which is one of the most criticized online for the battle system.

>>10471664
The story more or less follows the novel (versus the actual histories) of Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but it sticks to it as strictly as a Paradox game the more you play. Certain famous scenes get a heavy amount of dialogue, and how personalities interact with each other is heavily based on their historical interactions. Basically, characters tend to gravitate toward who they did historically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473636
How do I set it to auto govern?
And what is "wrong" with 9's combat system?
I was watching some of 10's and it looks pretty cool, standard turn based strategy combat, I think that the fact it's so close to the story is both a flow and a plus.
What is different from 7, 8, and 10? They're all RPG centric from what I understand.
And why isn't Koei more consistent?

[Anonymous No.]

It bothers me that some characters's portraits are different from how they appear in the DW series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473723
You can set "Districts", which will automatically create a separate AI governor to control all of the cities you set in the district. All officers in the district will go under AI control (unless you recall them) and the governor/Viceroy will be chosen from the highest Leadership out of all the officers there. The AI is decent when they're not bordering an enemy, but I still prefer manual control.

9 had a combat system that didn't allow you to control the actual units, but instead placed them in control of the commanding officer. Their AI was determined by their historical personality. Most people hated this since it gave the player less control, though I loved it since it felt just like the novel. Certain fuck up officers like Zhang Fei near always managed to fuck up unless you sent an advisor with them.

All of the ROTK games are close to the story. I would say that 10 even has the potential to diverge further from the history as an RPG. The traditional ruler-only games are grand strategy games that allow you to (only) select a warlord and play as them, whereas the RPG games allow you to play as any officer from the time period, with a large variety of options (but with the strategy elements toned down).

Koei changing the formula consistently is good. Each game has a fairly unique gameplay experience.

>>10473742
The DW series is fun, but the costumes are completely anachronistic and should stay as far away from a historical simulation series as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473798
Ah, 9 sounds cool, you can still control YOUR pc and forces right?
So the AI is different for each officer? That sounds awesome!

[Anonymous No.]

But Xiahou Dun's portrait isn't one with an eyepatch. I thought he was that kinda fat, but not fat guy with a beard and club at first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473822
Yeah, you control everything else outside of battle. The officers are divided into different personality types (Calm, Brash, Cautious etc.) and yu give the officers specific orders each turn. Generally they follow them, but certain personality types behave differently in situations: Cautious types try to retreat quickly if outnumbered, Brash types will sometimes attack hostile units even if ordered to avoid them, etc.

9 is a lot of fun, but the gameplay itself is pretty different from the standard to. It's a ruler only game, but done in a pseudo-real time style. During the Planning Phase, each ruler takes turns issuing orders, and during the Action Phase, all of those orders are carried out simultaneously. Each turn, as usual, is 10 days.

If you're interested in playing it, you'll have to go with the PS2 version. The PC versions are only in Japanese or Chinese.

>>10473829
He only gets the eyepatch in ROTK11 is he actually loses his eye like he did historically. It's not hard to activate, he just needs to be fighting against archers. A few officers have dynamic portraits that change under certain conditions, most of them with age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473889
THAT'S AWESOME!
Do you know if I can control the PS2 emulator with a mouse and kb? I imagine I won't be doing a lot of camera rotation with an analog stick, so it should be fine.
What I don't understand is if they have the translation for the PS2 version, surely they can use those assets for a PC version? I am talking about both Koei AND translators. What gives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473913
Yes. You can configure the analog stick to work with the mouse if you want, too. It's completely playable on emulator, though getting a physical disc second hand is usually fairly cheap since the series is so niche.

The PC versions and PS2 versions have some differences (there are more scenarios and characters available in the PS2 versions) but Koei probably doesn't translate the PC versions because of concerns over piracy. They release of ROTK11 didn't do particularly well because it was heavily pirated, so most future released will likely be console only. As far as fan translations go, the series simply isn't popular enough to warrant that sort of effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473948
Thanks.
I think the reason why ROTK11 was pirated 1) no expansion 2) not on steam 3) shitty advertising.
Paradox Interactive is fairly well off, they are the kings of gsgs, so Koei needs to stop being stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

Three kingdoms is otaku culture like sengoku, trains and mahjong.

[Anonymous No.]

What is Dynasty Warriors Empires? A casualized version of ROTK?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473990
Koei used to me much like Paradox, making all sorts of fun games, mainly grand strategy, for a small, very dedicated, niche audience.

After the massive success of early Dynasty Warriors games, the company as a whole shifted their emphasis to more Musou games. If it doesn't make Musou amounts of money, it isn't worth the time to bring over. The only reason they probably still make strategy games is that the original founder of Koei is still president of the company.

>>10474055
Pretty much. Casual strategy with less politics and tactics, and more fighting.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like a chinese playing these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474137
Aw, I was thinking Empires would be a perfect balance.
It's a shame really, when I was playing Warband, I realized the ROTK setting would be perfect for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474055
it's dynasty warriors, but levels are spaced out by a world map where you can do some token things like recruit troops and engage in diplomacy

[Anonymous No.]

Bump because the janitor hasn't deleted this. Which means, it doesn't break the rules.

How does that make you feel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474629
Pretty well. Enjoy your ban.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474629
Nothing because ROTK is a common otaku subject.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474651
How exactly does a videogame about Chinese history relate to anything in this picture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474653
Because it is Otaku related. It's own subject matter doesn't factor into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474653
I don't see any Touhou in that image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474664
"How does X become Y?"
"Because it is Y."

Fuck off. Taking a shit is also otaku related because all otakus do it.

>>10474666
Touhou wasn't invented yet, but Chinese history books were

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474653

I don't see any idol pictures in that image,

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474668
That's how most people justify idols being Otaku related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474653
How exactly anything in this picture relates to /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

Alright guys, gonna go out and buy 7,8, 9, and 10 for ps2 if I can find them somewhere. Maybe I can haggle.
What Dynasty Warriors things tie in? I have some old saves from forever ago, and I may do some more to get any bonuses.
Also: I haven't played DW in so long, whichever the next one is (8?) do you guys think it'll be fun and what features are gonna come?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10473948
>They release of ROTK11 didn't do particularly well because it was heavily pirated
I honestly tried to find a digital edition I could buy and, guess, what, I couldn't. Ordering it on a physical medium will mean waiting for it between two or four weeks and paying extra for shipping. I'll do it if I like the game, but for now the choice is obvious. It's a shame, really, I hope they start publishing them on Steam or selling DL versions directly at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10474653
That's a picture of /a/ you superdork.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't played Dynasty Warriors since 4, but the last one I LOVED was 3.
What happened?
I know there's a bunch of filler characters, and apparently Lu Bu is now a pussy.
Anything GOOD?
What are the changes in gameplay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10475491
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A2H-ZuOS8rI#t=683s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcdTMUWquaw
Wow what the fuck is this retarded shit?
My fucking hell, stupid as hell.
Screw getting the new one.
This looks easy as hell and fucking stupid.
I'm pissed.
Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

ROTK not DW thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10475603
Killing grunts has always been easy, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10478383
But at least it require some finesse to be good at it.

[Anonymous No.]

Not on chaos mode with a new/mid character, LuBu was actually unstoppable on chaos.

[Anonymous No.]

My favorite was 10.
The strategy elements of the series are fine and all, but what I really love is playing as some nobody officer and working my way up the chain to a point where I can actually kind of influence things indirectly. It makes me feel like a small but important part of a bigger story and that's something cool that you don't see in a lot of games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10480662
Do you like Warband/CK2?
Are there any other JRPGs like them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10480598
I remember chipping away at him in one game where you are meant to hit him with fucking artillery to get him to piss off. After a while I got careless and gave up, but I wonder what I would have got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469218
ffs this is not otaku culture at all. let people just have any thread up. okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10481943
It is otaku culture, there are a lot of so called Romance of the Three Kingdoms otaku out there, if the mod lets train threads stay up, which he does, then this is perfectly fine. And the same goes for idol threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10482006
and lady gaga otaku too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10469292
But Diao Chan is very cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10482016
I don't know about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10482024
Personally, I prefer SSX

[Anonymous No.]

>>10482024
Super slut on Lu Bu's side in 7xl was better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10482077
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10480710
>>10480662
Play Raijin7 then.
Same thing except it's an space opera eroge so you can actually NTR the faction leader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10482077
Diao chan?

[Anonymous No.]

I spent a whole summer playing ROTK 2 and nobunaga's ambition on the NES when I was little. I never touched the older ones though.

[Anonymous No.]

7/8 are the best ones for open-ended gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck off assholes

[Anonymous No.]

>>10485633
>play 7/8 as a ruler
>only have enough action points per turn to barely do anything

Oh man, this is about as much fun as playing a Paradox game and only getting to control 1 slider. Well, at least I have the fun of playing as some historical nobody who wasn't good enough to actually become a warlord as consolation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10485570
This game man, sure you can NTR the faction leader, but chances are he will NTR your bitch first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10485408
>>10485623

[Anonymous No.]

They need to make a perfect mix of Musou and ROTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10487352
I'd seriously cry if that occurred. It would be beautiful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10486097
But that's part of the charm!
Also he can't NTR you if you don't have a waifu/gf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10487352
>>10487417
They already have that, it's Empires.

Koei tried to do it again with ROTK12. At this point they should stop while they're ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10487835
That doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.]

Man all this historical japanese language is killing me.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got 8. What's the funnest way to play?

I did a game with Cao Cao and got to where the Han empire started to break away but I don't want to go much further.

So what's the best character and "level"?

[Anonymous No.]

Koihime Musou has completely ruined the Three Kingdoms history and novel for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10485667
You can't micromanage every single detail in real life too. Leave most cities to the governors and lead a main army.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the novels worth reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10487352
What about Kessen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10497022
If you get the right copies yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10497041
The Kessen games had a lot of problems.

There wasn't a whole lot of depth to Kessen 1 and it was pretty easy, even if you played the loser Western army side. The characters and cinematics were fun though.

Kessen 2 was probably the best in the series but also had a lot of flaws. You couldn't play on hard mode until beating the game on both paths. The normal mode was way too easy. The formation system was too poorly explained and certain cutscenes were repeated way too often (example: Ma Chao's riders, Sun Li's female corps, Zhao Yun has arrived, etc.). But it was a fun game and you could tell Koei put some major effort into it. The story on the other hand was goofy as fuck.

Kessen III had a pretty good story but was basically just a Dynasty Warriors game disguised as something else. The gameplay was very sub par compared to Kessen II, which in of itself wasn't fantastic to begin with. Instead of building off the potential of Kessen II, Kessen III threw the baby out with the bath water and gave people something that wasn't even really a strategy game.

If Koei were to make a Kessen IV and build off of what made Kessen II good (while addressing its flaws), I think they could have a really solid game on their hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10494174
If you're just learning the game, you'll probably want to play any character from Cao Cao's kingdom/Wei in one of the middle or later scenarios where Cao Cao's force is fairly strong. Wei is basically ROTK's easy mode which historically makes a great deal of sense.

After you've played the game a bit, it can be fun to try things a bit harder like Zhuge Liang's Northern Campaigns from the Shu-Han perspective, playing some average officer like Yan Pu of Zhang Lu's force or unifying the land with Kong Rong. These are some things I've done in the past and had fun with. I also had fun trying out Cao Xiu at Chi Bi. In that scenario, when you fight with Wu your forces have a morale disadvantage in every fight and therefore the campaign can be a tad harder for Cao Cao's forces/Wei than in some other scenarios.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10497043
What do you mean by that. What are the right copies?
Can you hook me up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10497089
The most frustrating bit in Kessen 2, to me, was how you could never kill any enemy soldiers yourself. Although running around whacking people and charging them do help you out in the battle, the fact that they were invincible meant you'd never really get any feedback showing that to you.

I hope another Kessen game plays something like Kingdom Under Fire with larger troop counts, I could get behind that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10497089
I would love to see Koei revisit the Kessen series, but they seem to not care about any game without "Musou", "Three Kingdoms" or "Nobunaga" somewhere in the title.

They still haven't made a new Genghis Khan or Uncharted Waters game for a decade or so, and those were actually popular series during Koei's golden age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10497220
>Uncharted Waters
;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10485570
How do I even play this, it's so confusing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10497220
I would love to see Koei revisit all three of those series. I was a great fan of Uncharted Waters 2 (which, however, also had some fairly noticeable flaws).

Koei has made a lot of strategy games and simulations with great potential but in recent years they've just thrown all their money and development effort into warriors games. The warriors games might appeal to some, but to me they are just way too shallow.

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>>10497131
There is the unabridgd books and the abridged books.

You want to avoid the abridged books and then there is the C.H. Brewitt-Taylor translation and the Moss Roberts translation, you wan the Mos Roberts translation.

[Anonymous No.]

Unless you know mandarin, skip the books and just watch the tv series and read the Yokoyama Mistuteru mango.

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>>10497927
Thanks.

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>>10497927

Yeah the Moss Roberts one is very nice. He's even a pretty cool guy, I once emailed him after I read his version thanking him for his hard work (I can only imagine how many years it took him to translate the whole damn thing so it only felt right) and he got back to me within a day expressing his gratitude.

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>>10497480
I'm honestly surprised Kou Shibusawa is still allowed to make Nobunaga's Ambition and Romance of the Three Kingdoms games to be honest. He used to pretty much produce every game singlehandedly until Omega Force eclipsed the main studio.

>>10497933
Is the Yokoyama Mitsuteru Sangokushi anime adaptation faithful to the manga? It looks pretty nice.

>>10497944
There's a four volume Moss Roberts translation available from Foreign Languages Press that used to be one of the most popular versions of Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but for some reason Amazon has stopped selling it in the United States.

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>>10497964

It's right here

http://www.amazon.com/Kingdoms-Chinese-Classics-Classic-3-Volumes/dp/7119005901/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361112593&sr=8-1&keywords=Foreign+Language+Press+%2B+Romance+of+the+Three+Kingdoms

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>>10497969
Note how you can't buy it directly from Amazon and have to use third party sellers, though. I don't really understand why they no longer keep it in stock, since Amazon.uk still has it.

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>>10497220
If you're talking about the last game is UW:NH then I have a news for you, there is third and fourth series of the game.
If not, it's not decade ago please include the remake of the 4th as it was released in 2006.
Learn japanese (or mandarin) to play :P

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>>10497975

Yeah I know what ya mean but it is at least there and $25 isn't too bad for the 4 volume paperback set.

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>>10497976
I don't really count Rota Nova since it was just an update for PSP and DS of Porto Estado from 2000. Even with updates I can't really count it as a totally new game. The series was actually pretty popular, so it's a surprise that Koei just left it hanging like that.

Then again, you could say the same thing about Genghis Khan, which never got another game after the bizarre experiment that was Aoki Ookami 4.

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>>10498005
Shit, PSP version?

[Anonymous No.]

Shame the /vg/ general is one big circle jerk, it also seems to be filled with women.

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>>10502164
There really isn't a /vg/ general for Koei strategy games. The Musou general has the most people who play them, but mostly the posts are just waifu wars. The Grand Strategy general is mostly Paradox games.

This topic still really isn't relevant to this board at all, but there's realistically just not enough interest to actually start a thread on /vg/ about non-Musou Koei games.

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Is it bad that I love the music in these games more than the games?

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

I was playing the latest Nobunaga's Ambition game. I think my favourite part about it was the tutorial... it was rather funny.

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>>10504355
The lastest NA release (Iron Triangle) or the lastest JP release (Tendou)?

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>>10504355
The pokemon one?

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

>>10504361
Tendou.

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Related to Koei (and nothing else), I had such high hopes for Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War. Though the gameplay wasn't too complex, I liked the necessity of squad based combat as opposed to Dynasty Warriors Army of One gameplay , where you alone can wreck thousands of soldiers.

Then I found out it has absolutely no multiplayer. A Koei game without even Local multiplayer. What the hell?

More related to RoTK, I have 10 and 7 on ps2. I like 10 for the fact that you can be Random Dude the Adventurer, though I hear it lacks the marriage/descendants system that 8 had, to let you continue playing even if your starting character died?

Here, have Uguu Bu.

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>>10504429
I never got around to trying Tendou, it seemed really similar to the previous game but with roads. Even by Koei standards they usually change much more between Nobunaga games.

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>>10504447
Bladestorm is pretty much the slow evolution of the Kessen series into Dynasty Warriors. Compare it to Kessen III, it's a very short jump in terms of gameplay.

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>>10504460
So Dynasty Warriors is the end result of video-game evolution?

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>>10504756
Correct