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10429926 No.10429926 [Reply] [Original]

>he thinks Liar-soft is better than Key

>> No.10429927

But it is.

>> No.10429935 [DELETED] 

hu u qt

>> No.10429937 [DELETED] 

who are you quoting?

>> No.10429958

>>10429935
>>10429937
hive
fucking
mind

>> No.10429969

>2011 + 2
>not being able to read riaL titles

ISHIGGYDIGGY

>> No.10429982

>>10429969
I just fell out of my chair and can't stop laugh.

>> No.10429983

Clannad is better than Sekien no Inganock and Shikkoku no Sharnoth combined

>> No.10429992 [DELETED] 

>>10429983

The art for Shikkoku no Sharnoth is better than all of Key's titles - excluding Planetarian - combined.

>> No.10429998

>>10429992
Art over story? You must be one of those graphics over gameplay guys too.

>> No.10430004

>>10429998
>gameplay

You must be one of those /v/ guys too.

>> No.10430005 [DELETED] 

>>10429998

There's this hilarious thing ugly nerds do where they perceive themselves as 'unattractive visually but mentally deep,' and they project this onto games with shitty art. Here's some news for you dorks: Key games are as bad as they are ugly, and you're as stupid as you are ugly.

>> No.10430014

>>10430004
>>10430005
Yet you probably slurped 07th Expansion's cock for more Umineko episodes.

>> No.10430024 [DELETED] 

>>10430014

I have never interacted with any piece of Umineko media. Swing and miss, junior.

>> No.10430030
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10430030

your tearing me apart

>> No.10430036

But it is?

>> No.10430098
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10430098

nice try op, but your not going to win this round!!!!

too bad for u

but youre buttflustered as HELL turbonerd

>> No.10430103

>>10429998
>>10430004
Are there people who actually care about gameplay when it comes to VNs?

>> No.10430112

>>10430103
no

>> No.10430129

SnS is horrible.

They should have made a League of Extraordainary Gentlemen VN or something.

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>>10430098
Clannad is the 43 ranked novel on vndb. Sekien and Shitkkoku aren't even on the first page.

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10430140

>>10430098
Clannad is the #4 ranked novel on vndb. Sekien and Shitkkoku aren't even on the first page.

>> No.10430153

>>10430140
Most of the top 30 on VNDB is shit

>> No.10430156 [DELETED] 

>>10430140

It makes me giggle that people let vndb decide whether or not they like a VN

>> No.10430167

>>10430156
That wasn't implied at all

>> No.10430169
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10430169

>>10430153
> 2011+2
> Not agreeing with VNDB and /a/ that Muv-Luv alternative is the most epic visual novel of the ages

>> No.10430180 [DELETED] 

>>10430167

Do you think vndb is a better judge of VN quality than a player?

>> No.10430209 [DELETED] 

>>10430180
Yes

>> No.10430215

>>10430140
and cripple girl is in the top ten to right ;)

>> No.10430220

Sephiroth could beat Goku.

>> No.10430221

>>10430129
>They should have made a League of Extraordainary Gentlemen VN or something.

You seriously must have been expecting something entirely different from Sharnoth.

>> No.10430222

>>10430220
no way man, my fav majikois could because they're moor epic

>> No.10430227

>>10430222
NUH UH, SEPHIROTH IS MORE EPIC.

YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OPINION IF IT PARALLELS MINE PERFECTLY.

>> No.10430241

I might be an English-only pleb but in my eyes you just compared the bestest eroge company 5ever to the shittiest shit on the planet, therefore it is imperative you yourself go acquire some taste before making shit threads.

>> No.10430244

>>10430241
BUT WHICH ONE IS WHICH?>!!!!!!

>> No.10430250

>>10430241
The one you this is the best is shit

>> No.10431906

>>10430140
Why would you even care about VNDB. Even EGS has shit taste. They gave F/SN an 86 or something close to that.

>> No.10431955

they call themselves liar, how can you trust them anyway.

>> No.10432193

>>10431906
because who you're replying to a le epic trollzors

>> No.10432233

>>10429926
>Key

Jun Maeda is a terrible writer, all of his female characters are cliche'd pity cases as opposed to people you can actually empathize with. His prose is so flowery that it would make the shittiest of landwhale fanfiction writers vomit. And the art is pure eye cancer.

>> No.10432281

>>10432193
I'd doubt that. I'm pretty sure people take VNDB seriously.

>> No.10432370

>>10430140
Sekien is fucking great, and I'm a KEYfag (although it was my first Liar-soft game, so I might be biased).

>> No.10432428

Sakurai and Jun Maeda write very different things so it's natural a fan of one wouldn't be a fan of the other.

It all boils down to taste in the end. Inganock was the WAB title I liked the least (not saying that it isn't good), and the Refrain section in Little Busters along with flashes in Rin and Saya's routes were the only things I've liked to come from Jun Maeda or Key as a whole.

>>10432233
This probably being the main reason I don't like him. His treatment of the heroines are so unnerving to read. They're usually what, sixteen, but act as if they're ten. Nagisa being a prime example here. The other Key writers aren't that better. But there are people who like that sort of thing, so more power to them. I'm a fan of Sakurai but there are people who no doubt can't stand her writing due to quirks like the repetition and characters going all introspective during h-scenes.

>> No.10432438

Liar-soft isn't only Sakurai.
And even Rewrite was done without Maeda

>> No.10432440

>>10432438
I take it when most people (like VNDB-kun) who read in English refer to Liar-soft they only know of the WAB series. Maybe Meteor's Forest and Kusari-hime, at a push.

>> No.10432447

>>10432440
Has 腐り姫 ~euthanasia~ been translated to english yet? Pretty sure it's a famous title of them but I haven't heard much about it from english VN readers.

>> No.10432463

>>10432447
It hasn't. I've admittedly only read about an hour of it so I can't really comment on its quality, but it's one of the definitive horror titles in the medium. It even served as an inspiration for more well known titles like Higurashi and Fate's Heaven's Feel route.

>> No.10432552

>>10432438
>Rewrite was done without Maeda.

That's probably the reason I've been liking it so far (going through my first play-through as we speak). The only other Key works that I've liked were Clannad (but only because I could related to the main character due to daddy issues) and Planetarian.

I really wish that I could get into VNs and eroge that aren't from major publishers, but I don't know nearly enough Japanese to read one.

>> No.10432751

>>10429983
horrid...

>> No.10432843

Not trying to be an elitist or moogyish, but you don't have the right to criticize Liar titles if you only read the translations. Ixrec shouldn't choose titles with an elaborated writing style if he can't deal with it. Yet, he always does.

>> No.10432849

>>10432843
Doesn't this apply for any VN that isn't pretty much moege?

>> No.10432868

>>10432849

I wouldn't say that. Take ML/A for example, the writing really isn't that important and Ixrec hasn't done much harm to it except for the famous 'noble confidant' accident.

>> No.10432898

>>10432868
Why was this an issue, outside of how it became some overused /a/ meme? I believe Takeru originally called her a dear friend?

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10432905

OP's opinion is objectively wrong.

>> No.10432920

>>10432898

Takeru called her "尊い存在" which literally translated means "precious being". Ixrec's translation might be a bit bumpy, but I don't think it's worth all the fuss.

Still, he's a subpar translator and it really shows when he lays his hand on writing-oriented titles like Sekien no Inganock or Cross Channel.

>> No.10433036

>>10432463
Kusarihime is all atmosphere. It does some really interesting things with its cast, which as first glance is horribly one dimensional and even annoying, they all have a certain depth that really makes them feel human. Kiriko for example did a full 180 for me.
The ending is a bit of a clusterfuck in concepts, but the execution is not that bad.

>> No.10433140

>>10432920

Why not have just said "special person"

>> No.10437047

What a shitty /a/-tier thread

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