Loli thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Discuss loli related stuff here. Keep it clean, let's not get deleted.

No pedophilia/paedophilia discussions, please. There's already plenty of those discussions in the archives, go there if you want to read about it.

Loli is not for everyone. If it doesn't appeal to you, please spend your time elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

Lolis are alright

[Anonymous No.]

i can understand lolicons being on /jp/, but not discussing lolita on /jp/.

why don't you go to 7 chan? they need the traffic anyway and have a specific board for what's ultimately a fetish.

[Anonymous No.]

I have been hooked on loli for literally more than a decade.
Pretty crazy when you put into perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

i want to help a loli fix her twintails.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I was a loli

[Anonymous No.]

dresses for little girls really need to come back in fashion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414644
Too bad twintail IRL isn't that good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414643
i'm kinda jealous. i only discovered it a couple of years ago.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>10414643
Its hard for me to think of a time when I was not in love with loli in any of her drawn forms. Before I did not even fap to 3D until I started watching anime like cardcaptor sakura and angelic layer. Then as I got older I found anime like Ichigo Mashimaro.

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>>10414658
long hair kinda does hang too limply. but if her hair has plenty of body/volume and is midlength, it still looks adorable, i think.

[Anonymous No.]

Kill yourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414662
It all started with Sakura.
I can have his cons or problems but I am set for life, I can't wrap my mind around leaving my affection and attraction towards idealized younger girls.

[Anonymous No.]

thinly veiled anime thread

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone read this

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>>10414673
Those thigh-highs, and shoes are so cute on her it makes me want to die. Even the little things that come down from the garter belt are there. Why do I find this picture more erotic than the whole of anything produced in the 3D world?

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when it used to be called religion threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414686
Because that kind of illustration is tailored to perfectly fit one's desires, where in 3d theres bound to be something that will turn a person off.

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>>10414682
in my case i started on the dirty end with tsukimi manor, which i found through le 4ch meme and such. but back then i thought it was a joke and i laughed at it more than anything. though i distinctly remember as109's stuff being the point where i crossed over.

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>>10414708

...please tell me that doujin isn't mai-chan's daily life with nanako as the MC.

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>>10414685
thought that was just an original pic -- don't see it associated with a doujin.

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>>10414709
>3d theres bound to be something that will turn a person off.
I find personalities to be my issue with 3D people. That and the emotional baggage they bring. But it does not help I am a 28 year old autistic manchild virgin I guess.

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>>10414716
dunno. haven't read it.

haven't read mai-chan yet either.

[Anonymous No.]

What's your favorite thing about a loli?

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>>10414729
Oh, it's an absolute joy. Those aren't garters and panties, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414733
She will never want me to be anything other than what I am. And that hot ass of hers.

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of parent lets their daughter dress like this?

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>>10414743

parents who let their children illegally gamble with mahjong at the age of 6.

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>>10414743
The ones that are not real because they are drawings. Your question kind of makes no sense.

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>>10414686
3d has already sacrificed cuteness and innocence by definition. she's doing it for the money and/or camwhoring because she loves it.

drawn lolis can still have that innocence because they're doing it just for you. so to speak. and yeah, some lolis aren't "innocent", but they're still childlike.

[Anonymous No.]

You people are the scum of society. Worth less than the shit of a dog.

You know who else fucked little girls? Muhammad. You're just like the sand spooks you so desperately hate. Kill yourselves.

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>>10414751
speaking of mahjong...

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>>10414733
That she does not judge people according to the arbitrary rules of our society.

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>>10414783
I have been meaning to watch Saki just for her.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way aside from having a sister or daughter to get a loli to crawl into my bed at night?

[Anonymous No.]

>hey guys let's post drawings of little girls in skimpy outfits!
>we're not pedophiles, honest!

Do you honestly think you're fooling any of us?

[Anonymous No.]

I saw you delete that post, janitor. You're a pedophile and moot hates pedos you know?

[Anonymous No.]

I sure love lolis

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414797
worth it.

you can even skip the early eps with mc and oppai-san yuri without missing much, if you want to get to where she shows up.

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>>10414803
LSD

>>10414797
do it. she shows up somewhat late, but she's very much worth it. also, make sure you aren't wearing yuri goggles for the series unless they're shatterproof.

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>>10414803
relatives, perhaps.

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>>10414820
Lovely kyouka.

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>>10414820
>LSD
nice. that made me think of lucid dreaming too, if what they say about lucid dreaming is true.

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>>10414807
>Do you honestly think you're fooling any of us?
How am I fooling you? I am a creepy person in the face of 3D people. But luckily its all in my head so you don't need to worry about it as much as you do. I can keep my fantasies in check Have been for 15+ years.

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>>10414807
I never denied I'm a pedo. There's nothing wrong with it.
Yes, lolicon = pedo. Stop denying it, guys.

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>>10414807
It is possible to like the stuff and not be one, if its just a fetish among many.

[Anonymous No.]

healthy exercise.

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>>10414833
I am a different anon but I have something for you that I do. First you need a Dakimakura of your loli. Then you will get one of these.
http://www.mybeatingheart.com/

Its a pillow that beats like a human heart. It has a algorithm that simulates one perfectly. When you hold it to your chest long enough your heart beat will sync with it. Its quite strange actually. You take that heart pillow and put it in your Dakimakura. That is the heart she will love you with. Now for heat.

My mom uses bags full of beans or rice that she heats up in the microwave to stay warm while in a car during winter. It lasts for around an hour. You heat one up and slide it between you and her. That is the simulation of body heat.

Then you get this. But I made one.
http://www.soundpillow.com/

What you want is to get a good recording of someone breathing while sleeping. I got my clip off /a/. Its the one of yuno from hidamari sketch. You play that while you're falling asleep and its creepy how you can blur the lines of the 3D world.

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>>10414862
holy fuck, that seriously sounds like a good idea.

fortunately i have some loli dakis already, so first step accomplished.

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>>10414871
The final step for me is to find a way to put an onahole in her. So far its just me holding it with one hand and her to my body with the other. I want my other hand free to give more credence to the fantasy. The whole heartbeat pillow thing takes it to another level when you're fapping with it pressed to your chest with a daki of your waifu staring at you. I like to keep my fantasy world in check as much as possible but I started to question reality a little after I came.

I am a special kind of freak I guess.

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>>10414886
pic related might work, perhaps. it's flat on the back and was designed to lie on top of those inflatable bodies and be hands-free. though with a daki it might still work if the pillow were firm enough. thinking about trying it myself eventually.

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>>10414817
>>10414820
Will do, downloading at the moment.
Thanks Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Um, I hate to be "that guy" but is there a VN focusing on lolis that does not involve rape?

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>>10414895
...since the one downside to actually installing an onahole in a daki is that you would have to cut the fabric.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414898
Most don't, usually the loli is willing,

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>>10414898
You're not that guy anon. Some people love to protect the loli and love her and not hurt her.

If you dont have issues with your loli being part dog you could try playing Wanko to Kurasou. Mikan from it makes me feel on cloud 9 every time i see her. pic related

And if you dont mind doing a little work you can always search the tags here...
http://vndb.org/

And try to find something of your liking. Most of the stuff is untranslated but it will link to a translation project if anyone knows about it most of the time. But I will tell you now that you wont find much.

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>>10414903
And they are all 18+, too.

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>>10414895
Wow do you have a link to that one?

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>>10414913
>And they are all 18+, too.
I chuckled.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread shouldn't be allowed. It just ends up turning into a shitstorm everytime.

And if this is allowed surely I can make a shota thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414831

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX0-hp9Hw

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414920
>And if this is allowed surely I can make a shota thread?
You are allowed to make any thread on 4chan. The question on if you will be banned or not is up to the caprice of the mods.

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>>10414911
just to add to what anon said, bear in mind that there are several non-lolis in that game too. but you do get plenty of time with mikan.

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>>10414916
dunno if you're in the states, but:
http://www.queencatadulttoys.com/tubomiasturbator/

otherwise, en-nls.

[Anonymous No.]

just missing a plushie globe for her to hug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414930
I have ordered loli things in the past but I am always paranoid about it. Thanks anon you are a kind and just god.

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>>10414920
You could, but I don't think shota is as popular as loli is on /jp/.

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>>10414930
At a risk of blowing my cover. That queencat place is only like a 20 min drive away. It would be way too awkward if I did a local pick up for it to save on shipping I bet.

[Anonymous No.]

This janitor is a fucking pedophile.

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>>10414957
don't see why it would. they are a sex shop after all, they've probably known weirder people than you. but they may not even give the option of local pickup anyway since they're an online shop. suppose you could always ask, tho.

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>>>/b/453995795
>>>/b/453995795
>>>/b/453995795

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414997
/b/ loli threads suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415000
they're usually pretty boring.

[Anonymous No.]

Kill yourselves, fucking worthless pedos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414943
i wonder if /jp/ would like traps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414997
Posting loli on /b/ gets you banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414628
>Discuss loli related stuff here. Keep it clean, let's not get deleted.
>No pedophilia/paedophilia discussions, please.

I don't understand. What sense do you mean "loli related stuff" that excludes pædophilia?

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>>10415031
but /b/ is the only board where posting NSFW loli isn't explicitly against the rules!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415021
>>10415035
Haha, oh shit.
Get a load of these two faggots!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415036
It's also the board where the mods don't have to follow the rules either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414943
>You could, but I don't think shota is as popular as loli is on /jp/.

Little girls are cute, but little boys are cuter. That's why the cutest girls are tomboys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415044
I was a cute little boy once. I was even short for my age. I can't feel attracted to what was basically me as a child.

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>>10415044
and me without a tomboy loli pic i can readily find.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415051
Me on the left.

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>>10415051
boys that actually look like boys are better than tomboys AND regular lolis

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>>10415049
>I was a cute little boy once. I was even short for my age.
Same here
>I can't feel attracted to what was basically me as a child.
wheres your hedonism and narcissism? you must have an unpleasant existence

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>>10415054
so you're a girl, i take it.

something i find fascinating, even though i shouldn't because it's just a matter of taste -- girls who like loli. it's just one of those things i would think would be boys-only. but, everyone has their taste.

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>>10415068
I'm the guy you linked.
I wish I was a girl, sadly I'm not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414733
Pureness of heart; and a love that can be matched by no one else.

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>>10414803
try lucid dreaming. i always wanted to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415066
It just isn't in my personality to be hedonistic or narcissistic.

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>>10415071
ah. well i have heard of girls who are into loli, elsewhere on the internets.

and i wish i was, too. i'd be about 7. and wear lots of cute things.

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>>10414733
>What's your favorite thing about a loli?

Due to their young age, the errors in their genetic code have had less time to manifest: their skin is smooth and nearly free from blemishes. They also lack the various permanent wear-based injuries that you see on the bodies of adults. There may be some adults with flawless bodies, but they would be exceptional.

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>>10415044
>That's why the cutest girls are tomboys.
Speak for yourself, please. There is nothing cuter than lolis in Victorian dress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414803
Steal one?

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>>10415094
You mean that thing with the apron so they don't get themselves dirty?

[Anonymous No.]

What is your favorite outfits on a loli?

I really like cute frilly dresses like this. I also really like buckle shoes and long socks.

Oh and sundresses. Sundresses on lolis are so nice.

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>>10415094
obligatory

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>>10414803
>Is there a way aside from having a sister or daughter to get a loli to crawl into my bed at night?

Live somewhere cold. Kidnap a little girl, and don't give her other blankets. She might spend the first night or two huddled in a corner, but she'll eventually climb into your bed for warmth.

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>>10415117
Or she'll just take your blankets while you are asleep.

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>>10415109
No. Laces, ruffles, long hair. You know the deal. >>10415114
has the right idea.

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>>10415112
indeed. sundresses.

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>>10415119
I refuse to believe that lolis are that conniving.

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>>10415124
Oh, you mean a Victorian style of dress nobody actually wore in the Victorian era.

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>>10415130
You clearly don't have much experience with children.

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>>10415125
Aren't they nice?

[Anonymous No.]

>Matsu Maeda
>Age of Mother-11 years, 11 months
>Matsu Maeda, child bride of the samurai Toshiie Maeda, gave him a son, Toshinaga, just before her 12th birthday in 1559.
>Though they were part of a feud against the Tokugawa shogunate, Matsu Maeda delivered herself to their enemy at her husband's death in 1600 to protect their son.

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>>10415137
very.

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>>10414803
You can purchase a little brown girl for less than a few hundred dollars in Haiti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415145
meanwhile, at approximately age 11, akarin was--

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>>10414803
search for one who is a real loli and likes older guys - kids arent asexual

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415170
Even the ones who are interested in sex aren't really interested in having sex. They just like to tease.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415170
How do you identify vulnerable youth?

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>>10414846
That means you're a pedophile.

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>>10415186
They like adult attention. They'll have sex if it means getting it.

[Hatsune Miku !MIKUiqnw0. No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1992648どや！

[Anonymous No.]

I once saw a tanned brown-haired twintail loli wearing a white dress and to my surprise, she wasn't 3DPD, it was the closest I've ever come to seeing a perfect loli.

Mythical creatures they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415186
orly? sounds like you already asked for a lot of children to have sex with you, which i doubt very much

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>>10415191
i never liked adult attention as a kid - i liked sex though since i was about 6 or 8

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>>10415200
There are cute 3d lolis but they are rare and hard to find.
On my part that was that time on the bus on summer where I was questioning my inclination towards loli, and just that instant a blonde little girl on a green summer dress enters the bus.
I couldnt believe it.

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>>10415222

>I couldnt believe it.

That is the exact same feeling I had. It was as if I'd seen an Easter bunny or a flying reindeer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415222
>>10415233
welcome to the real world 3dpd freaks

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>>10414943,1
This janitor is a fucking joke, seriously.

Somebody take this thread to the IRC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415222
I could find cute 3D lolis simply by going to a store on a weekend. What's the point, though? You just end up looking like a creep staring at them, and you might as well just look at 2D loli in the comfort of your own house.

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>>10415283

But we are talking about 3D lolis that aren't 3D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415219
I'm not talking about all children, I'm talking about the ones who flirt with grownups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414708
I never understood why everyone likes that girl from P4 but no one likes the loli from P3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415324
so just because you flirt with adults means you are grown up? mkay... if you say so... i already had 9yos flirting with me though

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415330
She greets you every day when you come home and has a greater role in the main plot.

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>>10414898
There seem to be a lot of loli dominatrix VNs out there, which would certainly seem to satisfy your criteria.

This one (M-Sensei no Koto) caught my eye on VNDB recently; I'll probably pick it up.

[Anonymous No.]

I want a loli friend. Whenever I'm doing something alone, I always imagine how it'd be with a cute loli at my side and I feel really warm and my mind runs wild with all the fun things we could do. Even being able to have a loli as a friend on the internet would be nice just to have someone to be silly with or play games with.

All my friends have either moved away or have gotten jobs and don't want to do anything ever. Even if I found someome my age who wanted to do stuff like that, it wouldn't be the same. I think being friends with a loli would be something special. I feel like I could be myself.

Something like that can never happen though. It's one of those things in life that I'll have to live with never having experienced. Thinking about this is one of the only things that makes me feel sad.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll soon create a formula for perma-loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415566
You made me cry. I'm going to lie in bed and wallow in my sorrows now.

I wander if getting into that gaia thing them kids are doin' these days is a good way to meet a loli... I was a cute little shota for an older girl when I was younger on WoW, I didn't realize that she was coming on to me until way later, I just thought role-playing skinny dipping and catching her masturbate role playing were common friend activities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415566
>It's one of those things in life that I'll have to live with never having experienced.
You could have a daughter, anonymous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414644

>tfw you used the term twintails before other gaijin knew about it

same went for -tan

I guess its good that more gaijin are understanding the correct Japanese terms

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414658

It can be good, but it doesn't look good on everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415712
I think that would be a bit different. It'd be fantastic if I could live as a stay at home father, however. I like to cook and do house work after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415618
This.
We should find a way to stop physical aging first because no matter how cute and pure that loli you love is, in a few years she will grow up into an adult woman.

[Anonymous No.]

Really into Otohime lately. The art style is simple, yet really lovely. It literally lets the viewer feel the softness of the loli.
Unfortunately the pictures involve old and fat men almost all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

I've looked through all pictures in this thread and didn't find a single erotic one.
>>>/c/
Disgusting pedoscum.

[Anonymous No.]

Just a reminder that graphic lolicon is against United States law and you shouldn't be downloading it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414895
>>10414901
>>10414916
>>10414930
>>10414936
>>10414957
>>10414983

I don't know if you guys are still here, but I want to say that hole (TUBOMI) is perfect for dakis. I just put it on the daki and it pretty much sticks.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Is hugging a loli nice? Reading this thread kind of got me feeling somehow a bit lonely. One way to reverse this feeling is probably to hug a loli. I could probably hug one of my relatives and only realized now have I realized that I've never hugged any of them. The next time I'll see them is maybe on St. Patrick's day.

Can someone please explain what hugging a loli feels like? Does it brighten a person's day?

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>>10414943,1
What's wrong with that? I think it fits for /jp/ to have such a janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414895
I wish I was a guy so I can put my dick inside one of these

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416106
btw im a girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416106
Sent ;)

[Anonymous No.]

I'm at my wit's end.

Need a source on this image. Google, iqdb and exh return nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416125
lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415995
>I've looked through all pictures in this thread and didn't find a single erotic one.
Uh, isn't that kinda the point? If I'm looking for erotic pictures I'll go to /e/ or /h/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414628
>No pedophilia/paedophilia discussions

thats racist OP

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-slim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illeg-sex-girl-13.html

Why haven't you converted to islam yet /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416140
for god sake pal

thats a well know and popular manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416187

I never read KnJ. Thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416201
every lolicon shoudl read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415131
Yes actually they did wear things like that, just not that length.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416201
How are you in /jp/ if you never read Kojika?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416406
>Kojika
These nicknames you guys come up with keep getting dumber and dumber.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416411
That's how it's usually called when not using the full title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416419
It's still dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414898
http://vndb.org/v/all?q=&fil=tag_inc-15tag_exc-84~513.tagspoil-0.lang-en

Mad skills, I got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416422
Blame the Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416430
>Double Phase - The Asou Twins - Anal and Pussy Enlargement

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416433
>Showing 1 out of 9 screenshots. show/hide NSFW

It has quality writing.

[Anonymous No.]

Too much lewd talk.
Not enough cute girls being cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414807
I laughed too, good one OP! You almost got me there.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I like cute, pure little girls being cute
But I also want to do lewd things
I feel conflicted

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416556
why is she sittting on a potty

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416564
isnt it a loli thing to do

[Anonymous No.]

How do ero loli artists know how a little girl's body looks like? It's something that's always bothered me. I mean, I know how a loli body looks like because I've been one, but most men haven't had any direct contact with naked little girls and yet they still make such good depictions of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415068

For me it was at first putting myself in the place of the loli, then my veiw slowly shifted. Now I love loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416616
A nude photo of a loli isn't necessarily breaking a law. After that, it just takes some imagination.

Why, are the artists accurate in their depictions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416616
>>10416626
I'm pretty sure it involves a basic understanding of human anatomy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416553
it's ok. sometimes they want to be lewd, too.

[Anonymous No.]

Any of you guys give this a shot yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416642
Ah fuck, forgot the image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416616
That was seriously the dumbest and most unnecessary post ever and just made to proclaim that you're a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10415566
Make a tulpa.
You already kind of doing it anyway if you are imagining what you would with a loli friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416616
iirc, there was a time when softcore 3d wasn't illegal in japan. dunno if that's still the case, tho.

>>10416617
if only there were more girls like you. i'd love to be able to share my loli obsession with a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416677
He never said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416616
Possession of CP in Japan is legal. They can download, but can't distribute. That's first, so they have some basis. I've seen some shit and I know that these images are not far from reality, although they do differ, depends both on the artist and real loli, they all differ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416616
Despite the /jp/ paranoia, nobody cares if you have photographs of a little girl for artistic anatomic reference.

Hell, you can buy nudist videos of little girls because they count as art/documentary. A similar thing happened about fifty years ago when filmmakers made nudist exploitation films (even silly ones like "Nude on the Moon").

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416677
There most likely are other loli girl lovers.

I think it's a hard thing for a girl to admit, that she's an utter lolicon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416718
I am a female and I love loli. When I still lived at my parents' place I used to ask my little sister to cuddle with me at night. The sweetest feel ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416718
Why do you use 日本語 depiction ロリコン when you can just say pedophile? From my own personal experience I very well know that ratio of woman-man pedophiles is at least 50%, I find it funny how people think it's impossible because of all the feminist propaganda, and how most people think women cannot be molesters (I'm not implying pedophile means molester though).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416730

I did the same thing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416706
also there's this. from what i've heard, contains scenes of full nudity with little girls. available for purchase at several popular online retailers.

[Anonymous No.]

btw im female (that means a girl) and I also like loli
don't group me with you disgusting pedophiles, though

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416616
I've never understood what a girl can like about loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416753
I like loli, but in an innocent way. I love little girls in general. I love how they come to me asking to play and call me their older sister. Pure little creatures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416732
because lolicon means your a gentleman that loves little girls, pedophile is more complicated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416732
I find it really fucked up too that women no matter what they are will always be seen as only innocent and pure because they just happen to have a vagina. Feminist propaganda has had much more of an effect than people realize. By the way most of the time on the internet lolicon is just a cover word for pedo, hard to use the real word anywhere else online unless you're someone with balls of steel to openly say you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416771
no it doesn't
lolicon is literally the japanese definition of a pedophile

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416718
yup, as a girl in western society, you're supposed to be disgusted by porn of any kind -- unless you're in the business. 10x more so for loli porn. and never mind that there's no small number of lolicon artists who are female.

[Anonymous No.]

If only Kodomo no Jikan was mandatory reading in schools. We could get a better world where less idiots roam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416805
best artist happens to be girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416815
>sample

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416730
>>10416736
that's so adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any 3D eroge featuring lolis? The only I know is Rapelay...
Also, does anyone know some good loli hentai animation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416840
Shoukoujo the animation 01 has a nice loli scene

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416815
Girl artists tend to focus more on the cute aspects of loli rather than on the lewd ones. I wish males could just dissapear from earth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416840
When it comes to hentai animation I thought that 'Suki de Suki de, Suki de The Animation' was pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416840
Considering the amount of loli doujin it surprises me how few of loli H series we have animated.
Why does this happen, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416877
There is quite a few loli H-series actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416852
I watched Shoukoujo and Suki de but I don't remember those girls in the pic.
All I remember is a pretending-to-sleep-imouto.
I guess they released more?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416888
They released two episodes. Sounds like you didn't watch the latest one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416855
>I wish males could just dissapear from earth.
Video for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLPDBGZ54

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416888
>>10416897
>>10416866
Is Shoukoujo and Suki de from the same author?
Because their art look similar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416852
>>10416866

Check out Shoujo x Shoujo x Shoujo. Same company. The girls are a little older and the manga is better, but its still very worth a watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416840
http://vndb.org/v10601
I'm the Hero (Ore ga Shujinkou) has a great 3d animation

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416919

> 3DPD

I admit the brown loli and the arabian scenes were hot, but the game as a whole let a lot to be desired.

[Anonymous No.]

You want to see /jp/ burn?

Use this thread as proof. Loli isn't allowed anywhere and all janitors have an obligation to delete it. Email moot and watch the janiturd shit bricks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416935,1
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>loli feet

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416877
because lolicons are content to jack off to magical girl shows.

[Anonymous No.]

is loli illegal in us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417235
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417235
Yes, in fact I've already reported this thread to the FBI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417235
I know for sure it is in New York.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417243
It probably isn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417235
No, free speech protects loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416075,1
Shut up you pedo scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417263
Pedophiles aren't protected by law.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10416877
It's easier to have an artist be a pedophile than an entire animation studio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417270
Yet nobody on /jp/ has been arrested for looking at loli yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417263
I think it's actually illegal under some law but no one ever gets arrested for it so people probably don't care.

I think that law was to prevent people from converting actual CP to drawings or something to get away with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417261
It's true, Google it!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417292
I googled New York and loli and I got, "a New York Lolita convention named Loli-con!"

That doesn't sound like a place where loli is illegal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417306
Oh shit is /jp/ going?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417235
>>10417283

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S102085#p10209524

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417317
Aren't "lolita conventions" fool of fat old women in lolita fashion?

[Anonymous No.]

Little girls need love too.
Why is the world so unfair with them, /jp/ ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417326
Little girls need love and attention. Just not semen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417321
If something with a name like that hasn't had an absolute shitstorm of angry normals protesting it then I bet it most likely is. Probably not the loli we all expect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417326
The US in particular hates children, I can't get my head around it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417335
What if it ends up being a giant convention about lolipops?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417361
You mean the country that created the world's first child starlet and whose most famous opera has a child as one of the main characters for the the first half? US loves children (sexually).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417300
what if as soon as you enter you get arrested

the sting that gets fathers who dont pay child support works like this
they get invited to a party saying they won something
they go to the party
as soon as they enter they get arrested

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsmKSWrmA

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417377
Back in the day, yes, we liked children, but as our obsession with efficiency increases, our hatred of those who don't work/contribute (children and elderly) has gone up dramatically.
The level of child brainwashing is also at an all time high.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417389
That could also be true, I wouldn't go to a loli exclusive anything even if I could because that's mostly what they probably are in one way or another. I mean do you honestly think something like an event like this if it is what we are thinking it is would publicly fly at all without getting shot down somehow?

[Anonymous No.]

typical lolicon

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414733
Pure is the first word that comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.]

Loli-con was a poorly organized lolita fashion convention that never got off the ground.
/jp/ should organize a real loli-con and invite Rustle and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417465
rustle probably hates americans

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417476
Probably not. He even released one of his works with English translations written in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417465
>Breaking News: A terrorist attack was carried out at the XXX Convention Center during the Loli-Con Loli Convention. The group was seen attempting to set off a large nuclear weapon. Several drones were sent to destroy the building. Tragically, there were no survivors.

I'm quoting the future news broadcast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417484
>terrorist attack
>at a lolicon
WE UR LEEJUN MORALZ R GUHDD XD XD XDDDDDDDDD ANONYMOOSE XD KIL DA PEDOS JUSTICEEE IS OURS XDXDXDXDDDDDDDDDDD

>Fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417523
Every time I hear the word anonymous come from any news source I cringe and just think "here we go again!".

[Anonymous No.]

I like DFC, but I'm not particularly fond of loli.

Am I gay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417539
Do you get turned on by pubic hair and hips?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417484
>Opinion: Loli-con in XXX a step in the right direction?
>Loli-con's third day wrapped up last Sunday, with an impressive showing of over 6,000 attendees. There was live music from a chorus of local elementary school girls and plenty of cake. One con go-er said "It was great, we all had alot of fun, I'm glad to see that we're finally opening up about it." And while some praised Loli-con for being a tasteful look into the lolita complex world, some XXX bloggers are complaining that the convention was blahblahblah......

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417551
I like hips. Hair I'm neutral on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417551
Hips are awesome. I refuse to believe people can get turned on by pubic hair. Even normalfags hate pubes.

>>10414733
petit form and stature.

Hips without being giant wide load hips, small breasts and not giant saggy abominations, nice proportions without the gangly limbs of taller humans or the stubby limbs of little kids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417552
When i read this it made me happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414733
I love little girl bums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417592
>I refuse to believe people can get turned on by pubic hair. Even normalfags hate pubes.

Of all the sexual fetishes you could refuse to believe, thats the one you pick?

[Anonymous No.]

What age do you like lolies to look? I like them to look to be around 4~8 years old, before their face starts getting longer and they hit a growth spurt.

Sadly, hormones in food is only going to make this magical window smaller and smaller over they years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417652
I like 4~8 too, unless the 9/10 year old looks young for her age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417639
Pubic hair fetish is some borderline shit in the west. pubes are like something you deal with, like if a girl didn't shave her armpits or legs in a while. You don't just typically go "OH BOY I LOVES ME SOME PUBES" and those who do are the types that make images with hair up to the navel armpit hair fling out all wildly and other gross distortions of the body.

It is at least as weird as rolling your dick up in hair and jacking off with the hair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417652
Whatever age she "looks like"

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone know when is Somersault 3 by Ootsuka Reika going to be released?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417676
Any younger idols would recommend?
I love Ai but I am not really knowledgeable on the subject and there is a lot of material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417665
I don't know, hair-fapping is pretty hot in erodoujin. Especially if the hair is silky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417713

Sumire Kawai is a personal favorite of mine.

ICBD - 35003

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417713
That birthmark is really distracting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417652
I really like girls 5-9. They just looks. I really like when they're a little pudgy from baby fat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417713
Mizushima Maria

[Anonymous No.]

>>10414840
Lolicon = Pedophilia = "I find kids hot and their personalities turn me on."

Pedosexuality = "I find kids hot and their personalities turn me on. It's not just a fetish/paraphilia because I can fall in love with them."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417798
Are you saying pedophiles can't fall in love with children?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417713

Nana Haruno was both cute and hot in that tickling DVD with the slightly older model. I particularly liked the part where she rides the rodeo machine.

I believe the video reference was SEA-198.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417300
>Crayons

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417813
I'm saying pedophiles shouldn't be called pedoPHILES.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417897
It does seem like it should be reserved for the kind of people who take artistic photos of little girls and write literature about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417897
I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon for those that only attracted as a fetish. That's just something were gonna have to live with. Pedosexual is a much better term. For the one's that just have it as a fetish I don't know what you would call them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417897
The etymology of a word doesn't complete decide it's meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417652
anywhere from 2 to 11. i'm pretty flexible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417919
Pedophiles or lolicons. If you just fap to them but don't feel happy being around them, it's a paraphilia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417933
>anything younger than 5.
Explain why, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417949
Did you seriously just ask that? Please fuck off before you start on the `I like them X years old and that's fine, but any younger is just SICK SICK SICK!' route. Actually, just kill yourself, hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417958
Wow. Calm the fuck down, dude. I'm not the think of faggot you think.

I was just asking what do you see in them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417988
kind*

[Anonymous No.]

On that topic, that always happens to me when I am searching for material, I find girls that are too young on the age range on loli that I find attractive and I am like 2loli4me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418026
You just gotta be very specific about what age your looking for I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418026
You will eventually become toddlercon after enough exposure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418026
It's the opposite for me.

I hate loli doujins where:

-The loli is 12 years old. The translators should localize her age and change it to 10. 12 in Japan isn't the same as 12 in the west.

-Elementary schoolers cumming. ALL of them. 11 years old boys and younger should just dry cum, for god's sake.

-The loli is either too mature (fuck my pussy, etc.) or too retarded (your pee-pee is getting bigger onii-chan!). I hate that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember, loli is a highly idealised caricature of children, and it's a good rule of thumb to avoidt replicating ANYTHING you see in loli h-manga.
You will end up disappointed and the child will end up hurt one way or another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10417949
i think it was about the same time i started liking diaper. they just went together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418054
Thank you, Dr. Faggot, for repeating shit we already know. Now you can feel good about yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418054
We already knew that. Except it isn't THAT disappointing.

You are probably that moralfag from the last thread. I know you feel the need to "warn" us so we don't rape kids, but it isn't necessary. You are just brainwashed.

Please, leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418067
>we already know
*most of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418036
yeah, i can agree with that.

>>10418039
Elementary schoolers cumming. ALL of them. 11 years old boys and younger should just dry cum, for god's sake.
on the one hand, it takes away from the fantasy somewhat. on the other hand, it becomes a fantasy of a whole other kind. i can kinda see it both ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418054
> idealized

I see it more as a renomralization. The distribution of beauty in lolis is a few standard deviations above that of 3D children, but there are still 3D girls who can approach 2D lolis in attractiveness, but these are only the ones at the top of the bell curve.

Also, yeah, I (and I suspect most people here) already knows that sex with real children will lead to trouble. Even if it's not the sex itself that causes the damage, the way society views it will mess with the kid's mind.

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>>10418104
yeah the way society views it, society will always do the damage because they'll just use fear to fuck with them like they do with everyone else in it besides just what we're talking about here since it applies to just about all control it has. Fear, shame, and guilt are it's ultimate weapons for ruining people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418183
Every society needs its scapegoats. It'll blow over, but probably after we are long dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418061
I only like diapers on older lolis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418061
>>10418271
Diapers are disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone hate the loli x fatoldman doujins?

seriously how do people get turned on by watching fat old people fuck a loli?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418307
Self-insertion and/or defilement fetish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418293
anything that reminds me of toddlers and below I don't like even if on someone a little older. Not attractive at all and disgusting because all you associate diapers with is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418293
>>10418357
Each to their own. You're not here to judge, lolicon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418307
I hate it so much. I hate fat old men in general. No. Just no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418307
I don't particularly care one way or the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418375
calm down, I'm allowed to at least have my own opinions right? I know I'm in no position to judge anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418036
I agree, but toddlercon is a stupid name. I don't see why kindergarten children are considered toddlers.

[Anonymous No.]

GOTH BLOCKED !

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418398
You right, but the body type is pretty distinct from regular loli and I don't know a better term for it in Japanese. "toddlercon" seems to have stuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418198
I've always wondered, what do they do when the kid says they liked it?

Do they say, "No, he brainwashed you into liking it, you actually hated it"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418412
They just say "kids know dick" and everyone believes that the kid was brainwashed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418412
I've never heard of such a situation, but yeah, I imagine it'd be similar to "no, you're wrong, he took advantage of you".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418412
I imagine it would be similar to rape victim shaming. "You are ruined, nobody will ever want you again."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418412
That's pretty much what they do, then they just continue harass about it them till they are scarred for life by the harassment done by them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418438
*them about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418438
That's just fucking evil.

I can't believe they don't realize how much damage they do to the children. And they view themselves as justice crusaders, it must be a mental illness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418357
But diapers actually makes things less messy. I don't like unclean things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418490
Diapers don't make things less unclean, they just make the whole thing easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418409
Alicecon, like Alice in Wonderland Alice who is 7 years old. It's under the Lolita age range of 9-14 but not suggesting that she's a baby either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418490
But you can get diaper rash from diapers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418543
Toddler: 3-5

Loli: 6-11

Teen: 12-14

Adult: 15-80

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418558
... You do know that teens are called teens because their age is *teen right? EightTEEN is still teen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418564
Look at this guy! Someone was trying to hammer their square definition into a round lexicon and this guy showed up and ruined the fun!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418564
I don't care about that. The Lolita age range is bullshit too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418574
>putting your hands anywhere near a dirty diaper

this is why I'm not a parent

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418549
>not changing them as soon as they have an accident

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418571
I'm just saying. Calling 15+ adults is kind of ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418564
yes you're right. it should be...

loli: 6-12

teen: 13-19

There are different levels of teens too that can be divided. the teens are a very large stretch of years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418577
It's all worth it when you see them blush and get embarrassed over having used their diapers, especially if you tease them about it by treating them like the big babies they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418558
>>10418592
Why is 6 such a important age?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418601
Because he doesn't like anything younger and must distance himself from the freaks that do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418601
its a really good looking number, not only is it attractive on the eyes but it's also an even number

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418601
That's when they enter elementary school.

CHECKMATE.

>>10418606
Also this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418606
yep just keeping it even, even though there isn't much of a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418605
5 is an ugly number. It looks like it's angry or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418586
>tease
ew

[Anonymous No.]

11 is the best looking number

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418631
You mistyped "9".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418618
What about kindergarten students? They should be included, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418601
6 is a perfect number.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_nuer

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418576
Physically, 15-year-olds are pretty much adults.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418650
But the brain doesn't finish developing until later, which is why schizophrenia takes so long to manifest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418650
Also, their brains are already adult tier, if I'm not mistaken. They just lack experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418666
>>10418671
Then just say fully grown or something. Adult implies maturity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418671
Your brain is fully developed at age 25.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418666
That list was for body-types, not mental maturity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418673
Most adults are really immature.

>>10418680
"Fully developed" doesn't equal "adult", though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418690
>a·dult
>/əˈdəlt/
>Noun
>A person who is fully grown or developed.

I'm quoting google.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like oblivious lolis. It's no fun unless they're getting flustered over lewd thoughts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418717
That's why 3D ones don't deserve so much hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418627
>ew
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418740
>why
unsee >>10418717

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418645
6 year olds are the perfect loli. Math proves it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418755
9 year olds are the best. I have a thing for single digits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418650
>Physically, 15-year-olds are pretty much adults.

Thats not true mentally or physically.

I think mentally is far more important though, although just because they are a certain age doesnt mean they are immature or mature. I think the law should say the age of consent is 15/16 like it is in most countries since thats when most people who mature mentally are going to be mature by, but actually put the circumstances of each case first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418803
> Thats not true mentally or physically.

They're close enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418803
The law should STOP peeping into our bedrooms.

Seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418821
Then anyone could sleep with six year olds. It wouldn't do well for our childrens' health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418755
>>10418795
11 is where it's at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418836
Only in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418839
Bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418412
If the kid liked it, no one would get in trouble unless they had a regular relationship and someone found out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418862
Kids can't lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418836
the 9-12 stretch is my sweet spot in general too and 13-14 at most maybe, it's pushing it for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418740
Because that's mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418877
The fact that they are unobtainable is one of the things that makes loli good. Teasing just emphases it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418905
I disagree. You probably love netorare, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418911
NTR represents having something and then losing it. Little girls are something you can never have no matter what. It's a bit different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418917
Both things make me feel awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418928
Do you not like tragedy at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418944
I love it, except when it involves people getting fat, people getting addicted to the internet/videogames, old people dying, animals dying, etc.

I also hate tragedies where a guy realizes that his girlfriend is cheating on him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418868
kids can and do lie. Kids are capable of keeping secrets and they are capable of lying to save their own ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418905
I think we got a little off course.

I think a girl wearing a diaper is cute like a girl hugging a teddy bear is cute. Humiliation doesn't need to get involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10418984
Why do I feel slightly horny when I see "kids" and "ass" in the same sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419000
because you like kid's asses?
was it really not that obvious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419045
I think it's because female kids don't usually talk about it.

They avoid that word for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419045
who the fuck likes kids? you sickos

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419306
so you're saying everyone should hate them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419713
If everyone hated kids, no one would care if you pedos fucked them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419993
Kids can be used to brainwash people, even if you don't care about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10419993
your way of talking sounds like you're some pedo

[Anonymous No.]

http://youtu.be/vmqNg-7QrDk

pls stay safe online