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10232557 No.10232557 [Reply] [Original]

Is the cat in the box dead or alive?

>> No.10232571

dead

>> No.10232573

alive

>> No.10232575

I'm not sure, did the poison vial break?

>> No.10232587

There was never any cat to begin with.

>> No.10232626

Who says that it's a cat and not a dog?

>> No.10232627

There's no cat in the box to begin with, this is all a trick!

>> No.10232639
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10232639

In reality

>> No.10232768

>>10232639
Is she dead or alive?

>> No.10232773

>>10232639
Shit, sorry, I don't know how she got out again. Mayuyu, time to go home, kiddo.

>> No.10232785

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxO9PG6l_Dw

>> No.10232792
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>>10232768
Dead

>> No.10232840

no anon... you are the cat

>> No.10232843
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>> No.10232878
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10232878

alive

>> No.10233481
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10233481

who witch here

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>>10233481

Me.

>> No.10237902

Translate episode 3, weeaboos.

>> No.10237908

>>10237902

You already posted this on /a/, you need to ask this to WTDND.

>> No.10237920

Both

>> No.10237923

>>10232587
>>10232626
>>10232627
>>10232639
>>10232840
the cat was a lie..?

>> No.10237941

The cat can't be seen without love

>> No.10237946

invisible cat?

>> No.10238155

>>10237946
>>10237941

mienaiNeko no naku koro ni.

When the invisiblecats cry.

>> No.10238157

Anything I want to imagine can exist inside the box.

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>> No.10238177

Both at the same time, duh

>> No.10238220

>>10232557

If you think there's a cat in that box, then I'll just have to destroy that illusion of yours!

>> No.10238223

R07 doesn't understand the Schrodinger's cat thought experiment.

Battler uses it to try arguing that two mutually exclusive possibilities exist but the lack of an observer doesn't reject either. But the actual thought experiment was just Schrodinger trying to give an example of exactly why you can't apply the principle of superposition in the macroscopic world.

>> No.10238242

>>10238223
No. It was a simile so it could be understood in an easy way.

>> No.10238247

>>10237920
>>10238177
>>10238223
The only ones who get it.

>> No.10238301

>>10238223
Battler misunderstood a lot of things, and in the end that got his brain scrambled.

>> No.10238312

>>10232557
dead because realistically a cat can't survive for long without air, and you have been talking about that cat in a box for 8 episodes so it's ran out of air by now and is dead. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant to the effects of a lack of air on a living being.

>> No.10238315

>>10232557
that's a trick question. the cat is holding the box.

>> No.10238318

>>10238312
Who said the box isn't big enough? Or that there are plants with a light bubble that works on a generator that works on the irradiating material that will, eventually, kill the cat?

>> No.10238323

>>10238318
well if the box is that big then the cat could roam around forever and avoid the poison and is alive idiot.

>> No.10238337

>>10238323
Man, if the box is that big, then the venom sprinklers would be all around the box, so the cat wouldn't be able to scape. Or you could put the cat inside a cage (or chain him), so that it's unable to move, and some fans so the air moves around. You're being unimaginative.

>> No.10238345

>>10238337
That would cost a lot of money, and no one wants to kill a cat that bad. Realistically the cat would be dead if so.

>> No.10238357

>>10238345
Man, it's not expensive, because it's a though experiment. As you said, no one wants to kill a cat that bad, and even if they wanted, they would just, you know, kill it. Realistically speaking, there is no venom that could kill a cat instantly, no box that could hide the signals of the cat being alive/dead from outside, and a lot of other shit.

>> No.10238365

>>10238357
Therefore the cat is dead.

>> No.10238367

Battler: "Is the cat in the box dead or alive? I've been wondering about that for a whole day, I can't find an answer! Damn it! How can I solve this if I can't check what's inside?"

Kyrie: "I can make it easier for you."
*loads gun*

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10238376

Is God dead or alive?

>> No.10238382

>>10238365
>Therefore there never was a cat.
There, ftfy.

>> No.10238383

>>10238376
We'll see soon

>> No.10238404

>>10238383
you won't see shit, everyone on this planet is doomed at least for limbo.

i wonder if the planet'll explode. i wanna see the fireworks.

>> No.10238426

>>10238357
>no one wants to kill a cat that bad
Psychopaths exist, also "for science" several animals are killed everyday. That's routine.

>there is no venom that could kill a cat instantly
I think there are venoms that can do quickly enough, also "instantly" isn't a mandatory requirement for the experiment. Alternatively you can create other automated methods dependent on quantum events to kill the cat, such as electrocution and other other shit.

>no box that could hide the signals of the cat being alive/dead from outside
Well I think it can be feasible but I guess it would become more like a big heavy cube rather than a box. That thing should also include vital supports for the cat to be able to survive, mainly oxigen.

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Let's open the box!

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>> No.10244001

>>10243987
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1giVzxyoclE

>> No.10244007

I may as well ask here. Is there anywhere I can download Umineko prepatched with the graphics tweaks before I start the long and irritating process of doing it all myself?

>> No.10244012

>>10244007
I may as well ask you. Why are you such a faggot? Half of Umineko's charm comes from R07's unique facial expressions that no shitty art remake could ever hope to replicate.

>> No.10244020

>>10244012
Deal with it, nerd. I'm going to play it with the graphics tweaks and there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.10244022

>>10244020
Fine. But don't expect me or any self-respecting /jp/sie to help you.

>> No.10244037

>>10244007
The only one I see is on KickAssTorrents, which may or may not be kinda sketchy, but that's your call I guess.
If it doesn't work, it doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to apply the patch manually.

>> No.10244039

Dead

>> No.10244042

Considering Bernkastel's power wouldn't it just ignore the basis of the thought experiment entirely and just guarantee that the cat is alive?

>> No.10244082

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat#Interpretations_of_the_experiment

>> No.10244096

>>10244042

But Bern is asking you if the cat is alive or dead.

>> No.10244131

The real question is "What is the box made of?"

>> No.10244149 [DELETED] 

http://youtu.be/pNTMYNj2Ulk

This will explain it to you in an understandable way.

>> No.10244173 [DELETED] 

>>10244149
This is actually very depressing to watch if you mentally blot out the laugh track.

>> No.10244185

>>10244131
Am I the only one who sees the box in OP's image and thinking of that one guy in Neuro that turned peoples insides out and made boxes out of them? Shit was creepy, man.

>> No.10244297

>>10244149
That was horribly bad. Please don't post stuff like that again.

>> No.10244429

>>10244173
So is any sitcom with a laugh track really.

>> No.10244941

The cat, when originally placed in the box, is a conscious observer. The detector (debatably) qualifies also.
Consider this wave function collapsed.

>> No.10245079

lol ～_ノ

>> No.10245164

>>10244185
Nah, I was also reminded of it.

I liked that character, though.

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>> No.10245205

>>10232557
But is the cat truly in the box or is it the only one outside and we're the ones trapped instead.

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