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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post a thread like this, but I know for sure its not /a/, since it got deleted after like 5 replies.

Anways, my Japanese teacher is forcing me to do a presentation on anime (in Japanese) tomorrow. How do I do this the right way? How do I avoid being "that guy" who -chose- anime as his presentation topic? I wanted to do something else, but he insisted on this, and I want to make the best of it and seem as classy as possible. What do I talk about? Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Pic related: Its anime.

>> No.10094416

Start by not waiting until the last minute to prepare your presentation.

>> No.10094417

Reported for crossboard invasion.

>> No.10094415

don't ask /jp/ to do your homework for you

>> No.10094423

>>10094415
I don't want you to do my homework, I'd just like a nice topic that doesn't make me seem like an idiot.
>>10094417
That's ridiculous.

>> No.10094439

1st stop slaking
2nd just do anime history from 1960-2007
3rd gtfo and go ask /a/

>> No.10094440

>>10094433
I was thinking of something like that. Is there anything you know of that I could read, paraphrase, and translate?

>> No.10094433

Just do something boring like the history or cultural impact of it.

>> No.10094445

>>10094439
>go ask /a/
And get my thread deleted again?

>> No.10094481

>>10094445

Yes

>> No.10094487

経済に与える影響。

>> No.10094491

>>10094440
Why are you in a Japanese class?

>> No.10094507

>>10094491
Well, I took it in high school, and I'd rather those 4 years not go to waste.
>>10094487
I guess I could try that, but it might be a little too boring, even compared to a brief history.

>> No.10094514

>>10094409
>Pic related: Its anime.
Go to the fucking anime board then.

>> No.10094520

>>10094514
Once again, that didn't work out the first time, and I'd rather not piss of /a/'s janitor any more.

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>Taking a Japanese class

You already fucked up far beyond /jp/'s help.

Drop out and do your Anki reps like a truNEET.

>> No.10094526

>>10094520
tough shit then, go to /b/.

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>>10094507
>Well, I took it in high school, and I'd rather those 4 years not go to waste.

It's called a CLEP exam you bumbling retard.

>> No.10094524

>>10094520
>of
*off

>> No.10094523

>>10094520
So you'd rather piss of ours?

>> No.10094527

Just do the way a normal would.

Cover Ghibli, Disney influences, Iconic shows (speed racer, Astro boy, etc...), general affect on Japanese society, economy, whatever.

>> No.10094530

>>10094527
I'll probably end up doing this for 5 minutes, and then I'll move onto its impact stateside. Do you know of any good resources I can paraphrase and translate?

>> No.10094537

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A1
Fucking use that and get out. It took me 5 seconds to google that shit.

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>>10094525

>> No.10094539

>>10094533
Fair enough.

>> No.10094540

>>10094530
christ, look for them yourself

>> No.10094533

>>10094530
No, find your own damn sources.

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>>10094538

>> No.10094548

>>10094545
I plan on it.

>> No.10094544

>>10094537
Oh wow, I didn't even think Japanese wikipedia. Could be a good test of what I know already. Thanks!

>> No.10094545

>>10094530
Do your own homework.

>> No.10094551

even though i really want this thread to be legitimate there's no way it is

the stories about people doing lewd things with their sisters are more believable

>> No.10094552

>>10094551
Did you get lost?

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>>10094542

>> No.10094561

>>10094552
how do you even get lost on the internet

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>>10094553

>> No.10094565

>>10094561
I don't know. Ask him.

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>> No.10094569

>>10094565
sorry which poster is it that i should ask

>> No.10094572

Do a presentation on JoJo, while do fabulous poses while talking.
Simply turn it into a comedy, if you don't have the balls you can just skip classes until the teacher stops pestering you about it.

Or you can stop being a filthy crossboarder and fuck off.

>> No.10094574

>>10094569
This one >>10094551

>> No.10094577

>>10094574
that's me

i'm not lost

i was asking how it was even possible for someone to conceptually be lost on the internet, since you were implying that i was

>> No.10094578

>>10094572
I think an incredibly flamboyant friend of mine might do that for his sentai presentation. I'd look like a cheap imitation most likely.

>> No.10094580

>>10094561
I sometimes start watching porn and end up in wikipedia, reading about international treaties regarding chemical weapons with a hand on my erect penis.

>> No.10094596

To avoid being "that guy", make your presentation academic in tone.

Talk about otaku subculture as a postmodern condition of post-war Japan. Talk about moe as a contemporary aesthetic and the narrative elements that compose it. Talk about anime history and how it has changed over the decades. Talk about how ancient Japanese culture influences contemporary anime in theme and style.

Honestly, it's easy to avoid being "that guy". In fact, I'm sure most of the students in your class don't give a fuck. I know I wouldn't.

>> No.10094607

...if you have to do anime you can go three different routes

1. Economic - talk about the economic impact and influence of anime. Showing how it was of economic importance in post war japan (during this period Japan was selling off pretty much every artisan wear they could and anime was no different) then slowly switching it to an example of how the rising value of the Yen lowers the profit from exporting anime to other countries lowering the profit margin and forcing Japanese Producers to slash production budgets and focus on the obsessive fan market.

2. Artistic - Compare and contrast the artistic influences of anime starting from Astro Boy - Walt Disney, then expanding it to Neon Genesis Evangelion - That post Renaissance art style with the high usage of shadows.... I forget the name because it's like 2 AM here. In general how it began to focus less on commercial art and more on high art as time went on ( It did loop right back around to commercial though)

3. Talk about something that relates tangentially to anime, that you're an expert on and how it relates to anime. Since it's due tomorrow I doubt you're willing to pull the research to make the other 2 topics interesting, so just go with what you know and hope for the best.
Heck you can do an entire presentation on how in Japan no one cares if the lips are synched to voice but in America and Europe lips are always synched to voice

>> No.10094614

>>10094596
I'd love to go in depth like that, but my language skills will probably prohibit me from expressing most of what I'd like to say.
>Talk about anime history and how it has changed over the decades
That's probably going to be my best shot.
>>10094607
Thanks! Yeah, I probably don't have enough time to write about anything with actual substance, so I'll probably just do a watered down version of the second.

>> No.10094622

>>10094607
Dude, seriously. Don't do this.

This moron needs to learn to think on his own.

>> No.10094623

>>10094607
>began to focus less on commercial art and more on high art as time went on
What? Anime has always been mass media. Pop culture. Some studios do experiment, but it's disconnected from the industry standard. Many consider anime to be an example of dissolution of the high-low dichotomy. Japan doesn't even really adhere to it to begin with.

>>10094614
That's a damn shame. They really are interesting topics. Here's another one: How a escapist subculture alienates the members of that particular culture and augments a state of hyperreality amongst the populace. The 2D > 3D deal is a good example of this.

>> No.10094629

4chan is not a place for you to get an advice (except maybe /adv/ but that doesn't apply to you).

Go and ask in the big anime forums and such. You might get a reasonable replies from there.

>> No.10094630

>>10094622
I'm completely lost. How is researching and writing everything myself -not- thinking on my own? A sentence does not a presentation make.
>>10094623
If I was writing a paper for English, I'd definitely do something like that. Maybe next year I'll know enough to deal with something that complex in Japanese.

>> No.10094631

Talk about how Evangelion changed the face of anime.

Also, Madoka is the Evangelion of anime.

>> No.10094632

>>10094629
You should've posted that before I got a bunch of reasonable replies.

>> No.10094633

>>10094631
and don't forget to throw in that alien nine is evangelion for kids.

>> No.10094641

I think you guys are being mean to OP, he/she is thinking, "sniff, you guys are mean, I will take my question and my money somewhere else I WAS going to send money to whoever helped me most." right? RIGHT?

>> No.10094644

>>10094641
Last time I helped a guy on here and he refused to send me $20 to my paypal like some kind of asshole.

>> No.10094646

>>10094641
Fuck off, anonymous.

>> No.10094645

>>10094641
I think this has been pretty constructive. I mean, I -did- get advice.

>> No.10094656

>>10094623
I meant that in a rather interesting way, since it doesn't matter what you get as a final product as long as you take your inspiration from a certain source. Like anime went from being inspired from a commercially successful product like Walt disney and Astroboy to being inspired by mis-mash of Hungarian, Japanese and English folk tales and a movie prop guide book (Excalibur) to make Berserk.

While commercial profitability is always going to be a mainstay of the industry the fact that they are taking risk on the source of the original idea is pretty amazing. Heck look at Banner of the Stars/Crest of the stars/Legend of the Galactic Heroes, they are all anime based on Political discourse and border policies. How does that even happen man! The rising value of the Yen definitely put a dent on what studios were willing to risk (We're never going to get another season of Bartender...) and as such anime went right back to focusing on vapid and stupid, yet commercially successful ideas, but that doesn't change the fact that at one point, it was better.

>>10094622
Dude, let me level with you, it's like 2 AM and I'm searching for an adamant Ditto in Pokemon White so I can breed it to get an adamant Rufflet, Axew and Medicham. I have long since lost control of my life.

>> No.10094654

>>10094646

Well in all seriousness, we will all need some sort of help one day with something.

>> No.10094673

Half of the reason why /jp/ is so bad is because /a/ janitors are so fucking bad, holy shit.

They deleted an anime related thread due to pure elitism and yet allow light novel, visual novel and touhou threads on /a/.

>> No.10094685

What year are you in? high school? college?

Because if your in college/university and your asking for advice for doing your homework, than I don't know what to tell you...

You might as well drop out if you can't even handle a simple task which can be done via researching.

>> No.10094698

>>10094656
>back to focusing on vapid and stupid, yet commercially successful ideas
It's always moving, and yeah some shows do tend to be formulaic, but that's par for the course. It was the same back then too. We still get some interesting/novel ideas, like say, Chuu2, but more than that, it's the execution as well. Something like K-ON, though arguably formulaic, is executed very well. It doesn't pretend to be anything more than what it is. I respect that.

I feel that you're cherrypicking. If anime uniqueness/creativity is distributed normally, than we see more because more shows are being produced. At any rate, as a whole, it has much more variation and integrity than western equivalents. In the end, these guys are making what they want to see.

>> No.10094700

>>10094685
Jesus fuck do you even know what I'm asking for? I just wanted to know how not to sound like "that guy". I don't need help researching or writing. I just wanted some idea that weren't "I'm going to talk about anime like a weeaboo for five minutes". In the end I'm still going to spend the next few hours looking shit up and writing.

>> No.10094702

>>10094673
Is this really that bad of a thread to have on /jp/?

>> No.10094708

>>10094700

Try going on youtube or yahoo answers?

>> No.10094710

Do some shitty presentation how tezuka took his inspiration for what became modern japanese animation from Disney. Done, not go kill yourself normal.

>> No.10094722

>>10094702
The premise of the thread is pretty retarded.

We can all go to school vicariously through him, though.

>> No.10094781

japanese cartoon vs american cartoons: which sucks

>> No.10094796

>>10094702
yes

>> No.10095024

>>10094673
This kind of blogshit doesn't belong on any board, outside of /b/. Potentially /adv/ or /jp/ (given a favorable response), but definitely not /a/.

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