/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Oops I put the subject in the name field again.....

What a boring image. You're boring.

>>9988866

Pixiv?

nice OP you should do more of them

>>9988872
That is so moé!

>>9988873
I'm sorry I just wanted to put up another one because I saw the last one fell off i'll draw something cute later.

New
youtube.com/watch?v=FRpiY_XQHZE

Reworked, again
youtube.com/watch?v=-XzXMIe120Y

My arduinoboy still hasn't come so still no boops from the gameboy. I hate international mail.

>>9988878
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=5155124

I I actually just started using my pixiv page so there isn't much content

Tried using SAI instead of MS Paint this time. Still quite hard getting used to the way the curve/line tool works though.

Anyway, trying to make an anime short. Don't know if I should finish it or not.

I suck.

>>9988927

I see some potential, work on proportions and try not to draw limbs with for shortening until you've got a good hand on the basics first

>>9988927
Not at all, I think It's beautiful.
Just don't give up on trying.

>>9988927
No one is born drawing well, keep practicing, is not that bad.

The eyes are misaligned

Loli anatomy is too hard. The limbs end up looking like tubes because low musculature.

From where can I download child idol videos? I need to understand the anatomy of grade schoolers. Just for educational purposes.

>>9989198
i never understood why people always go straight to drawing lewd stuff

>>9989208

I'm sorry.
I was trying to draw him dancing but it somehow it ended up like that.

Got the hang of drawing with Sai after a while.
Still, colouring is a pain

2/3 designs for my super chicks completed. Sassy girl here. I know it's kinda wacky that she cut this tree with her hammer, but she really is that strong. Drew the trunk in my sketch but left it out this scan.

>>9989224
>him
noooooooo

>>9989198
Just go to a stock photography site, like Getty images, and search for photos of kids. Less bandwidth wasted than downloading an entire video just for reference.

>>9990140
Current WIP in CS. Painting is hard and this is taking me a while. Well I'm already getting both neater and faster with my basic ass techniques. For being my second paint job, I'm pretty happy with it.

>>9990193
and a bonus chibi

>>9990200
If you had made it hold the last frame for a little bit it could have been cute.

>>9990193
and a bonus chibi

>>9988913
That looks cool as hell, why not finish it?

I want to make 16-bit music with a /jp/ twist but I don't know what that means

>>9990224
>16-bit music
An odd choice, most people go with 8-bit because that's obviously retro-sounding.

>>9988866
Is there a reason his right eye is so low.

Something I did last Halloween

>>9990280
Cute. Do you have more stuff?

>>9990210
You were right. It looks a little better now.

>>9990314
Tried to emulate Vofan style, but failed. So is the perspective.

>>9990381
It looks silly if you just stop on the last frame. Redraw the last frame a couple more times and bounce back and forth so she stays in that pose but the .gif is still moving.

>>9990251
Jesus fuck I can't stop laughing. I won't even post my high grade art in an OC thread with such a ridiculously funny and bad OP image.

What is with these idiots who can't properly make a thread?

>>9990406
post it

>>9988866
Here OP, fixed for ya.

>>9990894
Ah thank you...to be honest I actually didn't even see it....

Also I'm sorry for making a bad thread but I just couldn't find the other one....

>>9990894

Thanks, Bahi JD.

One day I will nail down my style(s). There's just so many directions I could take that it's still slowing me down...

>>9991691
Not yet. At least one I recognize myself.

>>9991663
You...you have your own style?

>>9991663
Do proper anatomy studies. Draw from reference. Your style is inherently unique as is your interpretation of reality. Style isn't something you force yourself into. It should be something that emerges naturally out of the way you do things.

>>9991696
I dunno man, I think like >>9991709 says that style is inherent. I can always tell you apart from any other drawfags even if you try to emulate another style. You pretty much inherently have a style of your own, in my opinion. I can't see it any other way than that.

>>9991663
Clearly two years was not enough for me to draw as good as its there. Talk about practicing more...

>>9991663

>random OC character
>OC character

Original character character.

>>9991754
original content, you stupid fuck

>>9991787
Original content character?

Who the fuck even says that?

>>9991796
not this guy, obviously:
>>9991754

>>9991754
>>9991787
>>9991796
Now, now.. let's not fight about pointless things like a filename.

The only good thread on /jp/ has come yet again. This thread was a relief after seeing the front page.

Concept sketches for some vn. The author decided to hire different illustrator, so these designs were scrapped.

>>9994163
That girl in the middle is so faaaaaaat.

>>9994178
It's a VN about Americans after all.

>>9994211
Here is the outline of it. I wouldn't normally post this, but I felt the colouring really didn't live up to whatever potential it may of had. Sorry if it clutters the thread.

>>9994215
It looks very nice. Good job.

I want to draw all the yukkuri now

(Ignore the caption, it was drawn as a reponse to someone else' s drawing)

>>9994322

>>9990212
Not sure if I could maintain my inspiration long enough and well, drawing frame by frame with a mouse takes a hell lot of time.

>>9990212
Not sure if I could maintain my inspiration long enough and well, drawing frame by frame takes a hell lot of time.

>>9994240
Thanks, dude.

>>9994329
sexy

It's been awhile, but I'm still working on my game~

>>9994772

good job and good luck

>>9994772
awesome

do any of you guys saved that pic posted on the recent OC thread? its that girl riding a broomstick, its very well drawn

>>9994858

Ah the guy some asplord was crying it was too lewd ( think that fucker is in this one too ) Alas I did not it didn't have that certain something that made me want to save it but it was good

not really a big fan of holiday pictures....

why don't you save you own work or have a Pixiv/DA account or something you know if people like you enough they'll want to follow you and maybe one day commission you step up sempai

>>9994858
Try foolz

It may be a hive of scum and villainy but it saves the pictures for a time

>>9994868
>Ah the guy some asplord was crying it was too lewd ( think that fucker is in this one too )
My god, your incapability of dealing with someone expressing their thoughts is amazing.

Well, nothing to be expected from someone saying 'asplord', 'sempai' and unaware of punctuation usage anyway. I love how people demonstrate how stupid they are.

>>9994935

You seem mad, I find it ironic you complaining about someone having an incapability with dealing with someones expression when you yourself basically did the same thing.

Well, nothing to be expected from someone who gets butthurt so easily and uses sage. I love how mad they are.

>>9994993
>nothing to be expected from someone who gets butthurt so easily and uses sage
Hi.
I just scrolled by this thread and decided to post here to tell you that your opinion just became irrelevant

>>9994993
>uses sage
Ohohoho, things are quite clear now.

>>9994993
No, it's not the same thing.

There's a big difference when you insult other people for no reason at all, and when those who were insulted comment about your pitiful behavior.

Yeah, I think it's quite obvious what kind of person you are now, based on your posts alone. So good luck in your little fight.

Decided to try colouring but it didn't turn out so well.

>>9995162
I think the eyes turned out pretty well.

I don't like these kinds of threads on /jp/, they attract a bunch of people who don't ever post outside the thread and become these insular little communities for people to pimp their wares.

Sure, it seems harmless enough, but it really lowers the tone. I also feel the same way about the touhou game thread and all the streamers there.

>>9995194
Sure it's a downside, but I still like to keep these threads running, because they are still the best threads on /jp/ most of the time.

>>9995194
>they attract a bunch of people who don't ever post outside the thread
GOOD.

This is what every good minority in their little ghetto on /jp/ does. The kigs post in their thread and leave us the hell alone. The MMD/Miku guys post in their threads only. The doll people post in their threads only. And so on.

The people who can't keep to this become the annoying ones, like touhou fans that make a thread for every new Touhou image that comes into existance, iM@S fans spamming pointless threads about single idols, and idolfag stalkers who occasionally escape their ghetto and post some thread about some bitch group no one cares about.

It's been a while since I've traced an image, but after reading Deardrops, I decided to give one a go again. It's not particularly -original- content, I guess. Also, I continue to take way too long to make these, I'll probably post the finished one later today or tomorrow.

>>9995194

I feel you're referring specifically to me. I am in these threads all the time, when a new one is made, I go to it. I post anonymously and when I post my art I do it only occasionally and I don't namefag so I don't attention whore. I feel if I posted more instead of "posting and leaving" it'd create a worse problem.

>>9995162

my hero, ilt's beautiful

>>9990967

who's Bahi JD?

>>9995638
Some up and coming japanese key animator from Europe.

Pretty amazing in my opinion.

>>9995638
http://bahijd.tumblr.com/

>>9995694

godlike, good mah boi this is what all artist should strive for

>>9995694
Hot damn.
Those artworks.... so fluid OTL

>>9995694
Everything there is his creation? Even the anime clips?

>>9996021
Yup

>>9994858
here.

>>9995694
Shit I'm crying
why there's people like me in the world
look at this guy, and he's probably younger than me
why the fuck I even dare to dream becoming good
just
just fuck everything

>>9996030
Wow, that's very impressive. I really loved the animation for Sakamichi no Apollon.

>>9996151
He was 18 when he made this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc_y3eAgIcI

So he is about 20-21 now and the most inspiring part is that he is completely self taught after being inspired by stuff like GiTS

>>9995162
very cute. problem is iris position, not coloring.
>>9995344
nice lines, go on
>>9994772
...what game, the "world split in day and night" one?

>>9996193
If you call "another confirmation that you're scum and a reminder of your limits" inspiration
maybe I can still learn to work in constructions

w-well, I've made this in 9/9 with my laptop's pad, I think this belong here

>>9996230
I like to think more along the lines on of "He did it and you can too"

>>9996245
He did it when I wasn't able to draw a straight line. Actually, I still can't draw a straight line.

>>9996271
Then practice drawing that straight line until you can draw it.

>>9996297
I'm practicing.
Not because it affects anything but because I just like drawing.
I don't know why that other person is so depressed about it. It was pretty silly to think you could be anything in the first place.

>>9996271
Practice! He learned everything by online tutorials and books so the information is there you just need to learn how to apply it.

I actually want to learn more about animation and 3d at this time but I'm still struggling with body anatomy so it'll be a while.

>>9996245
"He did it because he's himself, and you can't because you're yourself"
that's how it works. why you didn't do something good in place that wasting hours masturbating and playing like if you still were 16? power of will can't make you go back in time. forcing unrealistic hopes on yourself is more pathethic than admitting your failure as an artist.
you remember that dream, when you were young, of being destined to be a mangaka? yes? itcould have happened...but your weakness of resolve doomed you forever! your destiny is dead and you murdered it! hahahaha, my fucking sides!

>>9996351
I have come to hate whenever someone says "my sides".

>>9996329
You speak of effort more something almost everyone on the internets is incapable of doing.

Eh, calling it done and moving on.

>>9996351
We will see about that.

>>9996479
Awesome. and such clean-ness.
signatures are a shitstorm magnet though...keep your head down.

>>9996479

Love it.

>>9997803

This is pretty good I guess

>>9996212

Yes

>>9997803
Lewd from you? I didn't expect this.

hi /jp/ i drew my favorite 2hu for you

>>9998693
Get the fuck out.

>>9997803
Waiting for the day you draw some porn for us.

>>9998693
I like your 2hu kawaii

>>9998693
posting jbcschan

>>9998860
Not going to happen

>>9995344
Just worked on this some more, it's currently 5 AM so I'll finish it tomorrow. Well, technically today, I guess. I'll do some basic coloring right now.
I think some of the lines are bit off weight-wise (as a result of doing it all manually), but I'll fix that tomorrow as well.
>>9996212
Thanks!

>>9999116

Take your shit to /i/ tracer

Minor update, rest's for tomorrow.
>>9999129
No.

age

I'd like to hug a warm slime girl basking in the sun.

WIP before I get back to painting >>9990193

Gonna detail it and try to make the cabin kinda dark. Probably try to make the guys look cooler too.

>>10000579
2western4me

>>9999509
honest question

why would you trace? all its doing is crippling you in the long run

Origin Caricature Donut Steel.

I need to try harder.

>>9996032
yes, this is it, thnx

>>10000790
>>9999129
I don't get why guys refer to it as tracing, essentially it is but this is usually called vectoring and some people like to have clean vector pngs instead of pixelated lines.
Wallpapers and such often use them
and there's some demand for good vectors

>>10000872
fuck, you should've said vectoring in the original post. i didn't realise you were upscaling the image, since you referred it as 'tracing' in the first place

>>9995658

wow, found an interview about this guy too:

http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/interview-with-bahi-jd

Isn't this a dream all NEETs should strive for? to work in animu industry?
fuck, I'd even settle for a job as an inbetweener

Having 8-digit post numbers here just feels wrong.

>>10000930
Rejoice, brother, /jp/ is coming of age. Our figurative balls have dropped, we are men now and ready to have our voice heard.

>>9995178
>>9995499
>>9996212
Thanks guys. I'll duly take note of the positioning of the irises in the future.

>>10000790
Because I don't want to put the effort in actually learning to draw properly. It's the first time in several months that I've opened an image editor for more than five minutes and it'll still work out in the end. If I drew an image from scratch every few months without any practice in between, it would be useless.
>>10000872
>>10000889
Because I'm not actually vectoring it. Well the outlines can be scaled up indefinitely, sure. But the filling color will actually be raster due to laziness. The previous image I posted already has eyes that I couldn't scale up indefinitely without losing quality.
Here's the previous image I did, back in June. It should make it clear what I mean by raster colors, I just brush it with a huge stroke size to somewhat match the original. The background is vectormagiced.

>>10002068
Saying such a thing, it makes me sad. D:

What's wrong with learning to draw? It's just absurd that you don't mind putting in effort to do what you did, but are too lazy to learn to draw.

Don't you care about making real, original content? You're not limited by what is out there to be traced, but your own imagination! Is that prospect not good enough for you? D:

>>9995694
say what are the programs usually used to create animation or gifs? i want to dabble in that a bit so a list of programs would be great.

>>10001112

I've been accompanying these threads for a while, just lurking. The way only visual arts get replies feels very "not truNEET". Is it because it takes too much effort to listen through whole songs or writing?

>>10002252
More than likely it's because people are just a lot less interested in those things comparatively.

I, for one, have been waiting for someone to post a story here or something for the longest... there have only been a few instances at all where I have.

>>10001112
I love this style and it looked familiar so I had to look you up and actually remember to favorite you on Pixiv. Keep up the good work!

>>10000932
No. That's a dream every f/a/ggot has.

>>10002243
Can you please stop being an idiot posting fucking reaction images?

>>10002252
>Is it because it takes too much effort to listen through whole songs or writing?
No, it's because they're shit. Not in general, on an individual basis. It seems wrong to reply saying they are shit though, since they probably put more effort into them than the background-less sketches of a single person most people post. I tend to listen to at least music though.

If someone posted a story that wasn't fan fiction and I noticed it, I'd probably read it, maybe not. I'd definitely read/reply to a short VN or comic if someone made one.

>>10002252
I don't care much about them because they usually suck, and I don't even feel like wasting 5 minutes to give my opinion about them.

And you are right about the effort part, it's just much easier to simply look at a picture than having to listen 4 minute long songs or reading a story.

>>10002306
please go back to /a/
>>>/a/

>>10000932
>http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/interview-with-bahi-jd
Reading through that, it's basically the same old success story.
1. Make something good enough.
2. Relevant key people find you and you become friends with them.
3. Get involved with them and your career is underway.

The same old story indeed, and the same goddamn thing: "YOU NEED CONTACTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL!"

It's hard to stay clean if you live with apes, huh...

>>10002068

Not practicing is useless as is your "contributions" to this board and thread, it's time for you to leave you're garbage and don't belong here. Your kind of filth is the worst you don't even have any shame for what you've done, a dirty tracer will never be accepted in OC threads ever, 5 year olds drawing stick figures have more skill than you'll ever have

>>10002533

His own hardwork/talent far outweighs the needing contacts part.

>>10002535
>you're

>>10002541
Sure, tons of hard work is needed to get any "good enough" results, but the what separates him from the near-professional level amateur artists comes from the hard work in the PROFESSIONAL world, which comes from his career, which in turn comes from his good contacts.

If he had never had those contacts, he would still be a near-professional artist sitting jobless at his home churning out some self-publications and fanart, probably eventually leading to finding some other career than what was his original dream.

>>10002566
Hundreds and thousands of amazing artists die every day of starvation in their shacks, remaining unknown to the world. Sad but true.

I'm sorry.

>>10002566

He made those contacts, he applied for jobs, he worked on stuff like Skullgirls early, built up a profile, he went out on his own to contact Cindy Yamauchi and other artists/animators online, his profile is the reason for his contacts, he was originally told he could never work in Japan because he's a foreigner, but he worked hard and never took it as a no. There aren't many people in the world who can put together something like Shithead Action.

>>10002960
Sorry 'bout what?

>>10003014
>Shithead Action
Now that I watched it, it's definitely not something out of my skill's reach. Maybe I should draw one. He even used the same software (EazyToon). Hell, I can even say that I can arrange my animation's timing better than he did back then and I can draw as well as he did.

All that's standing between me and my animation is a fuckload of drawings.

>>10003118
drawing something like this. I don't want to offend people who like her by posting this, it's just that I'm pretty bored.

>>10003140
You're dumb

>>10003118
>>10003170
Just ignore that kind of crap.

>>10002960
That doesn't look too bad, to be honest. I read a manga with a similar style but can't remember the name.

>>10003140
Its not bad actually.
>>10003135
go on and do it. I'll cheer and shake your hand for congratulations, or mercilessly throw stones in your soft parts laughing at your arrogance.
>>10002252
now this interesting.
NEET WRITING CHALLENGE
you think you can write shit?
you actually wanted to draw a comic, but you can't draw?
eh, go figure. I not only can't draw, but my english sucks as well, so I can't write for shit
ANYWAY
write a story about the melancholy of dreams dead before blossoming, a fundamental genre of NEET literature.
if you have no idea, write a short erotic tale about sparky4.
I will judge and decide the winner.
go!

>>10003491
>I can't write for shit

You've got that right. Nothing after "NEET WRITING CHALLENGE" made any sense whatsoever.

>>10003607
You got the important part!

>>10003491
>you think you can write shit?
>you actually wanted to draw a comic, but you can't draw?
For nearly this reason, I'm considering dropping my comic ideas and turning them into light novels/VNs. I could probably draw better than a low end VN art, and takes less effort/amount of images.

>write a story about the melancholy of dreams dead before blossoming
It would just be the same as The Legend of Black Heaven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOF9acNUH8

>>10004474
>The Legend of Black Heaven
I really need to re-watch this someday.

>>10004683
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOF9acNUH8
Is that really a good to watch? Seems horribly dumb from plot summary.

>>10004706
>Is that really a good to watch? Seems horribly dumb from plot summary.
In theory, it's dumb. In practice, it'll depend. It's pretty funny at times, the series is short enough to not waste your time, and is mostly about it's story than the plot ... that is, it's about a middle aged guy who wants to relive his brief moment of glory. It's kind of really touching, with his wife trying to get rid of his old stuff and being tied down by life and a kid, when he really just wants to rock. He gets a chance to do so, and it dwells on his degrading marriage, and his offers to get his band mates back and their also crappy lives.

The aliens aren't really a focus on it, nor are they dwelt upon that much. It's mostly just about making you feel feelings. "the melancholy of dreams dead before blossoming" is a better plot summary, which is why I mentioned it.

You should really watch it. And watch it knowing it'll all happen to you someday. Except the part where you get to rock out with hot alien chicks.

>>10004886
Alright, it should be quite appealing to me so I'll give it a try. I was just a bit surprised about the alien thing out of the blue. Thanks.

>>10004886
>Except the part where you get to rock out with hot alien chicks
...could be a metaphore for escapism gear.
isn't it the reason why you kept watching cartoons and playing games, /jp/? to forget the harshness of your life for a moment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQWDkEmyv8&feature=related

do you remember when you had a future /jp/?
tell me how it was

>>10007191
I never had future from the beginning.
I don't need links for that

>>10006793

>>10007213
I liked the song, just that. it doesn't have hidden meanings

>>10007282
Because this is clearly a thread about posting links to shitty songs that you like. We've all simply misinterpreted the purpose of the thread, every single one of us, except you, oh wise and benevolent /jp/-Jesus.

>>10007191
Tell me how it feels to have a future? Are you longing for friends, family, job and appreciation you once had?

>>10007328
Sure. the worst part is that I lost everything important for my own fault. I gave up my dreams because I wanted to help the people I loved, and in the end, I found myself hating them for this.

>>10007275
Thanks.

Nue Lineart. I focused on improving the joints, did I do well?

>>9995694
BahiJD is great. R as a whole is just fantastic to watch, full of old charm and great ideas.

>>10002533
>>10002566
Aren't you answering your own problem? You practice and become skilled, and people will contact you for it. It's not like he had the connections before he was even animating. If you make good work and push your portfolio, people ARE going to contact you.

Besides, I wouldn't exactly call it a total success story--if you break into the animu field at all, you are doomed to shit pay, unless you're a huge name. I think it's better coined as a prominent 'do what you love, get paid for it' story.

>>10008439
Pretty sure he went after the contacts instead of waiting for something to happen.

>>10008467
He did say "push your portfolio", which is exactly that.

>>10008439

Nice side boob, but from now on just do sfw versions and post those on /jp/ so you don't have to edit so much or at least use "japanese censoring"

>>10008439
>I wouldn't exactly call it a total success story
watch at your pic. then watch at your birthdate.
I don't even know, magister.
just shut the fuck up.

>>10008572
I keep re-reading this, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. What are you trying to say?

>>10008586
I think he's trying to say that Magister is pretty much past the expiration date himself as an artist. At least compared to BahiJD.

>>10008630
Expiration date? There's no such thing. If you're willing to get off your ass and work for it, anybody can do it. BahiJD is obviously a special case, but even if he wasn't, that's no reason to let it be what discourages you from trying.

>>10008673
>>10008630
I'm saying that someone like magister, that stills struggles with basic concepts in the mud of 4chan's drawthreads, must have shitted inadvertitely his own brain in the toilet to call that not a huge success.
no offense implied- magister is the less faggot of his club, but this time I think he said a pretty huge bullshit

>>10008729
So why aren't you succesful like him, anon?

>>10008729
>to call that not a huge success
He did specify that he meant that in the economic sense in the very next sentence.

KeshikaRan!

>>10008673
>If you're willing to get off your ass and work for it, anybody can do it.
You make it sound like gathering all the willpower to do it isn't the most difficult part.

>>10008732
...like "him" who? did I say somewhere that I'm better than somebody?
>>10008747
...there's really people that start working into cartoons and chink comics because they want to become rich? isn't the creative part what interest them the most?
whatever

>>10008830
...being able to gather willpower is the starting point.
starting points are the easy part, dude...

>>10008864
I was talking about willpower that lasts longer than a week or two. The kind of willpower that keeps you working on it a few hours every day.

>>10008092
Of course there's room for improvement, but it's looking pretty decent.

>>10008876
As you invest commitment, you become more likely to invest commitment. This is called an escalation of commitment.

If you invest your time in any given thing, you become more likely to invest time in it in the future because you're biased toward justifying your usage of time.

The most important part of individual progression is the manipulation of ones own tendencies, not willpower.

You guys sound like art virgins. Just keep drawing and keep exposing yourselves to new art. You'll be amazing in no time at all. It really is as simple as that, especially if you have some natural talent.

>>10008935
>talent
Oh boy, here we go.

>>10008439
>You practice and become skilled, and people will contact you for it
Nope, it doesn't work like that. You need to stuff your shit down everyone's throat, and there will be 0.1% chance that SOMEONE MAYBE will be benevolent enough to test you specifically or demand more exclusive works to consider you worthy.

>>10009026
Can you lie harder please.

Does it look natural to pose like that? I'm not sure if I should let him cover his hands like this or show the hands.

>>10009169

Draw the hands so you get better at drawing hands, don't take the easy way out

>>10009052
>>10009127
I like how you guys are super ready to call Bahi special but won't accept that art comes naturally to some people. At the same time you're ready to put down yourselves and everyone else because you feel like constant drawing doesn't get you anywhere.

I don't care who you are, if you draw for the rest of your life and post it online, not only will you be a master but your art will make something out of you.

And no, drawing just 2hu won't get you anywhere. If that's all you want out of your art, keep it at a hobby level and don't bash anyone else who's trying to make something out of their work.

>>10009185
Thanks, I'll do that as soon as possible. Feminine hands are new and hard to me but I'll make sure I get it right.

>>10009182
Constant drawing for me is like drugs. I'm not going anywhere with it. Its strange to even think of it as something worthwhile. There are thousands and thousand of people who fail daily and never get anywhere with their practice until they die. The only difference is that people talk a lot about Bahi, and never talk about some Ashar Akpur.

>>10009169
hands business apart, the pose seems natural enough to me. I like it.
keep going, Pupilsman.

>>10009169
>let him cover his hands

Did you mess up when typing or you simply drawing a female and calling it a trap? Because that would be sad.

>>10009400
Ryou is a male character from idolsmaster anon

>>10009263
>who fail daily and never get anywhere with their practice until they die
I'm one of them.
I tried to stop. but fuck, I can't get rid of hope.
somebody explain to me. please.
I want to give up. why I can't!? its a damn curse!

>>10009404
That's not my point.

>>10009433
You should just say your point outright next time instead of being roundabout about it.

>>10009467
Well, I thought it was quite explicit, but I'll do that.

>>10009404
>>10009467
Not him, but you should go buy a bag of reading comprension. you need it, anon

Why are people replying to the obvious troll with no punctuation? He's not even trying to be different.

>>10008439
Looks good. When can we expect the blockless version?

>>10008439
Derpy as fuck face

>>10010263
Which one? I can't tell because neither one looks like it.

Are there any writers on /jp/? If it's all artists I understand, since that's pretty commonplace. I wanted to ask if anyone could point me in the right direction to get me some help when it comes to writing lewd things. I can write most anything else without a problem, but when I try to get lewd it's hard to read.

>>10010277
Because writers aren't artists, am I right?

>>10010273


How about you not reply to him and stop giving him the attention he wants so bad. Fucking trolls always lurk these threads.

>>10010273
This is a joke, right?

>>10010283
You know what I meant.

"Drawers" sounds strange to me.

>>10010284
I'm not a troll, asshole.

>>10010289
DRAFTSMEN

>>10008810
>Non futa

I guess I'm okay with this, since it's Ran.

>>10010354
At least she has her pubes this time.

>>10010277
I'm a writer, but I've never written anything lewd before in my life. I've never attempted porn or anything like that either.

I am drawing the mangos

>>10010422
Same story with me, I ask only because I've been trying to get lewd but am pretty bad at it.

>>10010431
Who she might be?

If possible, can the drawfags post their works and age?

I'm a bit curiously about /jp/ current artists

>>10010564

19 - 21 years old:
>>10008810

>>10010594
how can that guy have 2 ages?

>>10010594
What, no way. You're so close to my age, JADF. I never knew.

>>10010602
between those two you dummy

>>10010564
24 years old

>>10010564
19 years old.

>>10010805
So dark and edgy

>>10010491
original character do not steal

>>10010564
Magister is 22

>>10010564
26.

>>10010564

26

OC do not steal

>>10010914
She's edgier and cooler than you will ever be.

>>10010564
24.

I'll finish this later, don't pay it too much mind.

Also had an idea about a rearrangement for Green-Eyed Jealousy a couple days ago. I'll start working on it tomorrow, if I can be bothered to.

>>10010564
30 >>10006793

>>10010564
24

>>10010564

29, very close to getting my Ph.D on Wizardry.

I wonder when (or if) I can support myself doing this for a living.

>>10010564
21

>>10010564
23

I did >>9990280
>>9990400
>>9994163
too

>>10010564
22

>>10012146
You could draw porn for Katushiro Otomo's works and sell them.

>>10010564
24...25 in 2 weeks

Trying my best to win the Rustle championship one day.

Planning out a painting idea. Probably more involved than it should be given I cannot paint scenery worth shit.

>>10012881
>Trying my best to win the Rustle championship one day.

Is that a euphemism for having sex with a prepubescent girl?

>>10012958
No, I will one day draw lolis so well, you too will think I've traced CP.

One day I will be the greatest loli artist of all time.
But not today....not today.

Check back in a decade. I only started drawing for the first time in my life in June.

>>10013000
>the greatest loli artist of all time
Not while Higashiyama Show exists.

Just read his "I know you know" and look at those anuses. THOSE ANUSES.

>>9996479
GJ!

also
https://4ch.maidlab.jp/16.zip
latest version of project 16

>>10010564
21

>>10009343
Thanks, I'll do that.

>>10009400
No, I meant that. The tits are only there because he is padded with breast pads for job reasons (gravure being one).

>>10012247
Ouch, my heart!

>>10010564
18

I'm still learning color and anatomy

>>10014438
>that face
Yaranai ka?

>>10012930
I like it, maybe can look better if you add a bit of... "gradation?" in the woods.

>>10014457
fucking damnit man

>>10012684
That looks great.

>>10013533
People don't draw actual traps, they simply draw female bodies and say it belong to a man (or sometimes add a bulge). And that goes straight against the very concept of 'trap'.

>>10014508
Do not post images that aren't OC. And do not post reaction images at all.

>>10012146

Ham,what the hell are you doing on /jp/ ?

>>10014524
There has never been such a rule, unspoken or not.

>>10012146
do you have a pixiv or something?

>>10014520
I guess so, and that includes me. I'll take note of that and draw him a body closer to a boy's one in the future. Fake tits aside, the hips did looked a little too wide even for an average man.

>>10014524
Do not post posts that aren't OC. And do not post posts at all.

>>10014546
Roger!

>>10014520
It IS the very concept of trap. Only terrible crossdressers and actual twinks get butthurt over that.

>>10014541
Are you really going to listen to every fool with controversial bullshit for an opinion?

>>10014556
Oh, shut up.

>>10014529
You must be new?
>>10014546
Why, isn't that witty? You make us so proud.

>>10014561
You disagree? Get out, scum.

>>10012684
That black shading makes your drawing look really cool! What sort of style are you trying to go for with it?

>>10014556
You are an idiot.

>>10014570
Back off. I will be the first.

>>10012684
Nice one, as usual
You can ask me for marry anytime Sai

>>10014567
>>10014558
The point of calling them traps completely invalidated if they look like a man, retards.

Trying to obey these strict new rules, I hope no one sees anything offensive.

>>10010564
I just turned 17 a while ago

>>10014556
No, but I don't think that he's completely wrong in what he said. The hips put Chihaya to shame and that might have been too far even for a trap. Feminine traps are still a lot more appealing for me to draw, though.

>>10014573
He's not saying they should look like a man, for fuck sake. It's basically a matter that people like the concept of trap but not the trap itself, in other words: fapping to a denomination.

There's a difference between being feminine and being an actual female.

>>10014652

Is it just me or do people draw traps that look like girls, act like girls, but have a penis, but when you mention the desire to see more futa like that, people go "OMG that's gay!" as if futa is somehow more gay than traps

>>10014682
>but when you mention the desire to see more futa like that, people go "OMG that's gay!"
Those people are known as trolls.

>>10014686
Not the guy you are replying to but I just think they are simply stupid.

>>10014652
It doesn't matter what they like, it matters what it is.
Basically you are saying that traps should be drawn different by everyone, just because people fap to them for the wrong reason.

>>10014576
No me I'm not gay though.

>>10014682
Futa is usually lesbian, which IS gay. Also Futa usually have vaginas too.

Traps typically function as girls wherein the author has them say "btw im a guy" at some point, and then they continue to be girls.

Futas are all about looking at giant throbbing cocks. Traps don't focus on the penis outside of porn.

Also traps can be used for straight porn, usually the girl doing something sadistic to him. Futa is still gay even if it is straight.

>>10014728
>Futa is still gay even if it is straight.
It can't be helped.

>>10014728
Okay, but traps are still more gay than futa regardless. Just because they "act like girls" and "look like girls" does not mean that are girls. It's still a guy, and a guy fucking another guy, or being attracted to a guy is gay.

Futa count as a female with a cock, even 3D herms count as female, it might be gay if two futa are fucking. But even less so if a male is viewing it as compared to if they were viewing a trap get railed by a guy with a ten inch cock.

>>10014728
>Traps don't focus on the penis outside of porn.
hahaha

>>10014728
>Also Futa usually have vaginas too.
But what about... newhalf?

>>10014736
Newhalfs are guys unless otherwise stated.

>>10014728
>Futas are all about looking at giant throbbing cocks.

Except you can have the exact same story with traps you can with futa only it can be sexier.

Cute girl, 'big reveal' oh you have a dick. The same kind of fetish trap users like where in the story the character is revealed to be a futa.

The whole futa's with gigantic dicks only is not something I like either, but that's the only stuff western fans like. I find futa to me more enjoyable the more yuri like it is. With cuter characters and more focus on the eroticism and not just plowing someone.

The only difference is people think that traps can only be X and futa can only be Y. If futa was gay, I would be able to fap to het and gay porn. I literally do not enjoy het of any kind. Only if I imagine a trap as a futa, or flat out don't know.

>>10014728
Traps are usually involved in affairs with man, which IS gay. Also traps usually have asspussies too.

Futa typically function as girls wherein the author has them say "btw I have a cock" at some point, and then they continue to be girls.

Traps are all about fucking or thinking about fucking a boy. Futa don't focus on the penis outside of porn.

Also Futa can be used for straight porn, usually the girl doing something sadistic to him. Traps are still gay even if it is straight.

Could you guys have this discussion elsewhere? It's annoying to have dozens of new posts in the OC thread just to discover they're all about dicks and reaction images.

>>10014741
pls don't post if you don't have anything to contribute

>>10014736

newhalf arn't futa it's the japanese word for transexuals

>>10014740
>Traps are still gay even if it is straight.

But traps are never straight at all.

>>10014741
Too late, here comes the bump limit.

>>10014747
Just like Futa.

>>10014750
But futa is always straight. Even if a guy is being pegged.

What happened to the time where trap was just a guy who identified as a guy, was treated as a guy, and was straight, but viewers/readers though he was a girl and fapped to him until someone mentioned that he was a guy?

>>10014753
>Even if a guy is being pegged.
Straight as a rainbow.

>>10014753
How the fuck shemale is straight?
On the contrary, how in the hell a totally girly looking girl (which is maybe a man, but its not revealed) is gay? Fuck, they keep being feminine even during sex. How its not straight?

>>10014758
Dude, if there is no same sex sexual relations going on, or attraction of the same sex, then it isn't gay. The definition of gay is just being sexually attracted to the same sex.

>>10014760
>shemale = futa
>implying
lol

>>10014760

Shemale=/= futa

Herm is futa.
Shemale is a guy with a sex change.

>>10014767
>is a guy with a sex change.
And even then it's not a complete sex change. Breasts don't count as a primary sexual characteristic. (women with flat chests are still women!)

>>10014778
Yes, that is exactly the point. Since it's impossible for a male to become a complete women. No matter which way it's sliced, he's always a guy in that regard.

You fuck a shemale? You're gay. Bottom line.

"But he looked like a girl!"

No excuses.

Who here makes music?

How did you get started? What programs do you use?

スレはいい
ホモたちが来た
クソになる

>>10014787
Just go pirate Fruity Loops.

>>10014803
That didn't work.

>>10014817
You couldn't pirate it or you found out you suck at music?

>>10014822
It was revealed to me that you belong on /a/ and not here.

>>10014580
I like it

>>10014834
>get told
>baww you belong to /a/
sure is thin skin

>>10015011
Hwā wesan þu quoteth?

>>10015033
jp bird

>>10012739
Otomo? maybe Shirow Masamune with the stuff he's been up to these days

>>10014532
/i/ still won't let me post the last time I tried, I'm just just floating around the internets now

>>10014536
nope, but I have a blog set up

roboham.blogspot.com

>>10015224
I simply can't like that style.

>>10015224
so cute, miyazaki.

>>10015224
bookmarked.
now draw snails for me.

this is a snail
that its carrot

>>10010564
21

>>10016332
I'd be more jealous of this skill level, if I wasn't so much older that it doesn't even matter anymore.

>>10016403
You know what? I think that the main difference betwen people like Bahi and the whole-life-practice-bu-can't-do-shit guys is not the skill, but a tendency to become less and less self confident with time. I mean, probably throwing yourself into the fray while still young and hyped helps in delivering the minimal results your ego needs to...to...make your art level up faster, or whatever way it works.
its a matter of attitude also, to me. talent helps, but you can gain with practice ( I mean doing things, not doing exercises)
>>10016332
I like it.

>>10016479
I always get in incredibly high spirits during practice, especially if something looks better than before for once, but on the next day the mood resets. When you wake up, there is only one loud thought revolving in your head, its a question about why are you still fucking trying.

>>10016403
>>10016479
>>10016572

don't be like that. i didn't want to discourage anybody. here's some advice in hindsight considering my own growth up until now:

as someone who wants to improve, no matter at which level, there is one thing you need to do and two things you need to understand

first is: put in the hours. it sounds banal, but in hindsight i really think it's important. if i didn't put a good 600+ pages of sketchbook past me i wouldn't have gotten anywhere. seriously.

secondly: learning attitude. this is what "talent" is in my opinion.
bad attitude:
>"b-but that's not constructive criticism!"
good attitude
>"everything you say is feedback, if you say it's shit it just means you _think_ it is shit. i'll have to judge wether you have a point, wether you're missing the point or wether i'm just not good enough to get completely positive feedback yet."
bad attitude:
>"show me, tell me"
good attitude:
>actively searching for information. trying to understand. WANTING to know. experimenting a lot. "feedback"
after all, you WANT to know, right? you WANT to understand, right? then act on that emotion. go and try to find out, try to understand how things are done.

cont

>>10016827
cont

for example, i right now am trying to get back into designing characters more freely after all this mechanical way of practicing.

examples of what i've done throughout the years:
-youtube "beginner drawing etc, beginner tutorial, etc"
-google "drawing bla bla. manga bla bla. inking bla bla.
-look at someone better than me and ask "what the fuck is the difference between that and my level? trying to find out what he can do and what you can't. this will lead to huge insights often. then adding the skills to your learning backlog" "i want to do that too" (i asked this question not just in drawing, but often in storytelling and other fields too, like moviemaking)
like
>ahh, it's the bits of black fill he uses that gives the lines more weight, let's try it.
>ahh, he uses method X to create that effect, let's see if i can do it too.
in my beginning years i was very experimental

- buy and download pdfs and how to draw books. judge the quality of the teaching by the skill of the artist who is teaching. if the person's good, the lesson is gonna be legit one way or another, but there are a lot of different ways of doing things.

cont

>>10016928
cont

just try to learn a lot. in time the skill will take shape
seriously, SEARCH and FIND. it's all about you. asking for tips and advice will help you, but you need to have the right attitude. a attitude of learning, because the burden is on you. it's always about you.
it's completely fine to just fuck around if you are at the beginning. as long as you put in the hours and stay curious. it can even be a lot of fun. no, it WILL be fun. learning about color theory, photoshop and watercolors for example was fun among countless other fields.

"wanting to get better" won't get you anywhere as a beginner. practice as long as you want by yourself, you won't break certain thresholds.
but "wanting to know" will get you far.
learning attitude means everything. look at books and material that interests you. keep an open mind. try to understand.

at the beggining i thought there is this "one thing" i need to understand and then progress will be flawless. now i now there are about 1000 things i need to understand perfectly to create good art or manga. so keep figuring out stuff.

>>10016332
Why so blocky? Also that ear holy shit.

>>10017118
blocky makes it easier to think in 3d. it's just a perspective practice. and ears are kinda hard, but not that much of a priority.

>People think futa is gay
>Two thousand fucking twelve.

If liking to watch a girl with a dick fuck another girl makes me somehow gay then so be it idiots.

>>10017388
...what amazes me is this continuous debating.
does it really fucking matters if its gay or not? if someday a sex scientist pops out (which is unlikely, as sex scientists said that futa is etero*) and says that futa is gay, you will just stop liking it abruptely?
dude, who the fuck cares in the end? only 11 years old kids, soccer moms and catholic repressed old people give a fuck if something is gay.
fucking stop please.

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

>>10017651
That's it, no more fapping.

>>10012247

>>10018402
Get a good and funny writer and we can kill Ume.

>>10018402
Goddamn it, I already died once today. Not again.

>>10018402
Oh god, this is just too adorable.
Gotta say the filename bothers me a little though.

ah waste of time, age limit time for a new thread.

>>10020591
Not until this one is dead.

>>10021351
I want to say fuck waiting and draw something for the new thread, but then I realize I'm too lazy to draw the OP image and copy paste a proper opening for the thread.

...

>>10010564
Under 20

>>10010564
Under 20

>>10021428
It's Akari dressed like Komachi? Yuno with a weird belt? Or maybe OC do not steal?

>>10021442
It's Akari dressed like Komachi

>>10021445
Nice, that was the best choice. Now, color it!

20 minutes for the contest subject voting.

>>10021454
I can't into coloring. I just started drawan

>>10021486
Really? Then, it can't be helped.