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9970453 No.9970453 [Reply] [Original]

You're getting older every day, /jp/.

Will you look back and feel shame and regret because of your NEET life?

>> No.9970458

Never. Time spent doing something you enjoy is not time that should be looked back on with regret.

>> No.9970460

I WILL NOT REGRET ANYTHING!

>> No.9970464

>>9970196

>> No.9970465

>>9970453
don't you already feel shame and regret for things you've done in your past?

>> No.9970477
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>>9970465

I'll regret everything I've ever done until I die, even if it was the best possible course of action-it's not like I can ever actually know.

My regretting everything is more a mindset than anything. I haven't enjoyed much of my life, and I probably never will. It's not because my life is awful, or I'm ugly or stupid or blah blah blah. It's just that I don't have much I enjoy or look forward to.

>> No.9970485

>>9970477
Are you me?

>> No.9970497

>>9970465
Most of the time something went wrong it was the worlds and societies fault, not mine.

There is no reason for me to be ashamed.

>> No.9970500

My cousin who is the same age as me is having is party to celebrate his graduation from medical school.

I've read lots of eroge. Lots.

>> No.9970513

I won't regret anything. This is the path that I choose for myself. I enjoy this life of tranquility where I spend my time on things that are important to me. Chasing some form of goal or trying to become rich and successful is pointless. I don't need much money to lead a happy life and I'd rather live for myself than for others.

>> No.9970515

>>9970500

Are you going to suck his cock, dude?

>> No.9970536

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnT5JkGydVY

>> No.9970694

>>9970453
>You're getting older every day, /jp/.
I don't believe you.

>> No.9970697

If it is anything I'm going to regret, it won't be about being a freeter or a NEET. That's the least of my worries.

>> No.9970699

>>9970500
>I've read lots of eroge. Lots.

Living the dream!

>> No.9970700

>>9970477
I have the exact opposite mindset.
I regret nothing.
I do feel ashamed, but that's a completely different matter.

To me, regretting things doesn't come naturally, which is good I guess, because it is deeply irrational and a purely destructive feeling.

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>> No.9970712

I have no regrets. This is the only path.
My whole life was unlimited NEET works.

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9970713

>>9970700

>I do feel ashamed, but that's a completely different matter

But shame is basically an emotional, primal sense of irrational regret.

>> No.9970720

What's done is done, there's no place for regrets in my life.

>> No.9970722

>>9970465

Pretty much this. I hate myself for everything I've ever done, every day, at all times. NEETdom is a respite, if anything.

>> No.9970727
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9970727

I regret nothing.

Regret is something that you feel when you allow other people to determine the course of your life. I've never allowed this to happen to me. A lot of people are ashamed of me, my parents included, but they're ashamed because I rejected the idea of going down the same path of college debt and inevitable wage slavery that their parents forced them to go down.

If you always live your own life then you won't regret anything, but as soon as you start allowing other people to tell you what is important and to tell how to live your life then every day will be filled with regret.

>> No.9970730

>>9970713
Shame can be very rational and often is. A well-functioning sense of shame correlates with a high g factor.

>> No.9970731

>>9970713
Not for me.
It's like "oh god he will think poorly of me/see what a worthless piece of shit i am".
I don't regret what I did, I just don't like the consequences.

>> No.9970737

>>9970513
I would...pretty much have to agree with you on this one.

>> No.9970738

Are you kidding? I've been making something of myself for these last 4 years. Between work and school, it's all a pain in the ass and accomplishes so little in the end. I'd rather go back to being NEET. Shame and regret can get fucked, I'd rather enjoy myself.

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>>9970730

How is shame rational? It's an emotion. I mean, I understand it could be useful for navigating relationships and a given society but acknowledging and internalizing cultural markers that should produce shame-that would probably naturally correlate with raw intelligence, but that just because it may or may not correlate with some raw intelligence factor does not make it, by itself, a rational thing.

>> No.9970752

"A great source of calamity lies in regret and anticipation; therefore a person is wise who thinks of the present alone, regardless of the past or future"

>> No.9970753

>>9970739
Yes, shame is just as irrational as regret.
It's a crutch that nature gave us so we don't fuck up, but like everything, it can malfunction and fuck you up for life.
I wish I could switch off certain control emotions as I know by now how to behave.

>> No.9970764

>>9970753
>I wish I could switch off certain control emotions as I know by now how to behave.

I imagine that, if you really want, you can mentally train yourself to do this.

>> No.9970767

>>9970752
I like this quote better.

>The only thing I regret about my past is the length of it. If I had to live my life again I'd make all the same mistakes - only sooner.

>> No.9970776

>>9970739
Rational people have relatively rational emotions. Children and people who "act out" find it hard to control their emotions in a constructive way. Soft sciences can rarely prove causation with mathematical rigor but you're free to interpret the statistics.

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>>9970727

Good on you, as the Euros say.

I feel the exact same way.

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9970784

NEETs are actually some of the only people in our society that are still sane.

Just look around you, we live in a society filled with people who have been completely consumed by greed and they think solely in terms of currency. They don't understand that you can have happiness without money. These are people who willingly sacrifice well over half their lives to a job that they most likely despise so that they can acquire all of the expensive items that they've been indoctrinated into believing that they need.

There is not a single thing in our society that this doesn't apply to. Food, clothing, housing, transportation, every single thing that people purchase is overpriced and if you did it yourself then you could accomplish the same thing at either no cost or a fraction of the cost that they're paying.

For example, I grow my own food, I either walk or use a bicycle, I've knitted my own clothing for years, and I'm currently building my home using alternative housing methods that are easily affordable and no where near the price that people pay to buy the obscenely expensive homes that they live in. I don't need a job to do these things, the few expenses that I have are fully covered by the tiny amount of money that I get from doing a few minutes of online surveys every couple days.

Just look at cob houses. You can build a home out of nothing but dirt and straw and this home is just as good as any other house yet it either costs nothing or it costs a few hundred dollars if you don't have access to free straw. Everyone else though will just happily jump into being imprisoned with mortgage debt and forced to work for the rest of their lives to keep paying off this 100k - 200k house that they bought with debt.

>> No.9970786

The only regret I would have is not ending my life sooner.

>> No.9970803
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>>9970784

Your lifestyle sounds uncomfortable to me. I would hate growing my own food, making my own clothing, or living in a home made out of straw. but I do agree working as much as most people do is fucking crazy, and if you like your lifestyle, you're definitely quite sane.

The work week should be 12 hours at most. I've never been a NEET, unfortunately, but it sounds like the best life possible if you have a source of steady, reliable income. Think, if we the work week was shorter, more people would be employed, and everyone would be a little happier.

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>>9970784
Being a NEET implies that you latch on to this "insane" society like a leech sticks to a pig.

You cannot survive without it. Your lifestyle and any other minor comfort you are used to depend on it.

>> No.9970813

>>9970784
Why don't you move to Africa?

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>>9970813

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>>9970813

Niggers would steal his home-made clothing and home-grown fruits and vegetables, pillage his straw home, and steal his bike.

There is no reason for anyone to move to Africa.

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>>9970818

I'd like to add that, if OP has soft skin or even moderately effeminate features, he will be dicked to death before having a tire fastened around his neck and lit on fire.

>> No.9970826

>>9970818
But Africa isn't America :( There you only have to watch out for capitalists and cannibals. Which might be related.

>> No.9970833

>>9970784
Do you write essays on it? Do you have a website? Can I get your e-mail address? I would like to know more about that kind of stuff. I'm serious.

>> No.9970837

>>9970826

The meanest streets of Detroit are nicer than the finest areas anywhere in central Africa.

>> No.9970847
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>>9970833

He also gets a hefty lump sum each month from his wealthy parents to support his hippie lifestyle.

>> No.9970848

Fuck no.

>> No.9970849

>>9970811

I used to be like that and I enjoyed it, but the problem is that it's not sustainable. For most NEETs that well of free cash that they're drawing from will run dry before they die, whether it's their parents dying/kicking them out or if changes in social security cut the free money they're getting.

Living like a leech and enjoying the comforts of society without needing to work is very fun, but it's really just phase one of the NEET life. Long-term NEET survival depends on learning how to be self-sufficient without employment and to do that you have to look into alternative ways of living.

At the moment you can live very comfortably like this. My home may not be in a suburb, but solar power or other alternative sources of energy mean that you don't need to depend on electric companies to have modern luxuries like a working computer and if society ever collapsed then the only thing that you would lose is the internet. Every thing else is easily doable without needing other people.

>> No.9970863

>>9970847
Don't bully. Accusations don't belong into well-mannered circles. Neither do words with universally insulting connotations such as "hippie".

His endeavor is virtuous, regardless of where the money comes from.

>> No.9970871

>>9970784
No thanks, I like comfort and civilization and nice and pretty things.

>> No.9970873

>>9970863
He's lying.
That is not noble.
It is impossible to live by yourself off of a few dollars a month and have a computer.

The only way to do that would be somewhere inna woods in Alaska and even there you had to sell stuff or do some kind of productive work to pay for supplies.

>> No.9970889

>>9970873
I don't think he could grow his own food if he lived in Alaska.

>> No.9970890

Just write some fucking LIPTH and be the Cudder.

>> No.9970900

>>9970889
He could grow アイス.

>> No.9970905

>>9970900
I would grow some 愛す with your mom if you know what I mean.

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9970919

My friends never respond to me any more

>> No.9970925

>>9970833

>I would like to know more about that kind of stuff.

Check out alternative housing methods, there's so much information about that stuff. Cob homes are really just the tip of the iceberg, I've seen people live in storage containers that they converted into comfortable homes and I've seen people who gutted out the back of their van and converted it into a comfortable living space. There's so many options out there and it's either free or it costs next to nothing.

>>9970847
>>9970873

I only have one living parent, she's makes well below a middle class salary, so she doesn't have money to spare.

I did prepare though. There are a lot of ways to make money on the internet without doing any real work. Whether it's surveys or jobs on mechanical turk you can easily make about 10 dollars in less than an hour. I never did more than an hour since then it would start to feel like a job, but around 10 dollars a day saved each day for the six years that I was a NEET was over $20,000 by the time my mother said I needed to move out.

I bought two acres of land for around $5,000, there are many states where you can find land far cheaper than this, and the yearly tax on my land is 50 dollars, it's not really expensive at all.

Any NEET could do it if they have internet access. For example, CastingWords is one of the requesters on mechanical turk and I transcribe 2 or 4 minutes of audio for them in less than 10 minutes and I can get any where from 2-4 dollars for this. Usually it's about 8-12 dollars if I do this for 30 minutes to an hour. It stops being fun after that point so I won't do any more than that, but I could if I wanted to.

It's very easy to live off this amount of money and now that I'm setup I only do it every couple days instead of each day because I just don't need the extra money.

>> No.9970928

>>9970919
They're too busy trying to impress people. It'll pass, just wait until they hit 50.

>> No.9970931

>>9970925

I find it hard to believe solar is enough to run a computer monitor and a computer for more than a few hours a day, to be honest. Also, did you buy the solar panels with your 20k? What other sources of electricity do you delve in?

>> No.9970940

>>9970925
If it's really that easy to make money online, why isn't everyone on this board rich by now?
I don't believe it's as easy as you say.

>> No.9970943

>>9970931
He's obviously lying. $10/h for surveys is ridiculous.

>> No.9970957

>>9970943

If he said 10 cents I might believe him-maybe.

>> No.9970972

When I was a kid and a teenager I didn't care about making good grades or succeeding, and was generally a good-for-nothing in most people's eyes. I went to college because "you have to go to college to get a good job" and I worked hard because I regretted slacking off in high school. 4 years later and with perfect grades (albeit in a worthless subject), surprise surprise, no one really gives a damn about degrees in the real world. They want skills and experience.

After that, I don't have any regrets anymore. I feel like I did my part in trying to be part of "normal" society. If someone will give me a job that I can actually pay the bills with (i.e. a job that pays above minimum wage), then I might give "normal" life a shot again, but if I need to have 10 years experience and 5 specialized degrees to get a decent job, I think I'll just stay a NEET until I have to kill myself.

But enough of this /blog/ shit. I've spent a lot of time around old people in the past few years, and it has taught me a valuable lesson: no matter how successful you were in your life, when you're deathly ill, or you've lost your memory, or you can't even get out of bed, none of the stuff you did in the past really matters. Even having lots of money can't save you (at least not until medicine advances more). The point is: better to enjoy life while you can rather than work 90 hour weeks for a company that will toss you to the side when they don't need you anymore.

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>>9970972

True dat.

Also, I don't know why people work minimum wage jobs. It'd probably be more enjoyable to be homeless than to work 40 hour weeks at a burger place or some shit. Hell, you could get welfare and make more money than that.

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>>9970458
>>9970458
>>9970458

fuck year mutherfucker

>> No.9970985

>>9970931

I use a laptop because it uses less energy, but solar power will run a desktop as well. You can also purchase a small generator if you aren't able to afford enough solar paneling to power the things you have.

>>9970940
>>9970943

You don't have to take my word for it, just check it out yourself.

www.mturk.com

Look up CastingWords on mechanical turk. You can do one of these right now if you want, there's no application process or anything like that for this kind of work. I'm looking at a job right now that pays an average of 2 dollars for transcribing only 2 minutes of audio.

>Diff Audio Expr Trans: Easy King New York #120945 (200% premium) (avg rwrd+bns: $2.00) [02:00 mmss]

The base pay is a dollar, but unless your transcription quality is complete shit then you always get a bonus whenever you do a job and the average pay for this job including the bonus is about 2 dollars for transcribing that 2 minutes of audio.

$10 an hour is about minimum wage, it's not really a huge amount of money.

>> No.9970999

>>9970940
It's not that easy. I've tried mechanical turk before, and if you calculate your hourly wage, it's usually $1-2 at best. Most of the jobs on that site want you to do a shit ton of stuff just for few cents. When I tried doing transcription work like >>9970925, it definitely took a lot longer than 10 minutes, and I made a dollar at best. Sure, usually the companies have systems where if you work a lot of the shittier transcriptions, you can finally start getting easier ones that pay more, but it's a real pain in the ass.

If you live in Sri Lanka or something, maybe mechanical turk is worth it. If you live in America or western Europe, just get a part-time job. You'll earn more, and the work, while not fun, is usually less tedious than trying to transcribe someone mumbling some shit.

>> No.9971003

>>9970985

Those surveys are pretty far from a longterm solution, which you say you have, to NEETdom.

>> No.9971014

>>9970972
>no one really gives a damn about degrees in the real world. They want skills and experience.
>baww why won't people hire me even though I have nothing to prove that I can do the job
Fuck off.

>> No.9971021

>>9971014

How are you going to get experience if no one hires you, jackass? That includes internships.

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9971023

There is only 1thing I regret, borned too early, got broadband internet late and found true love late.

I missed out on so many years of youth that can be spent on these hobbies. Instead I was out on the playground playing with other kids that I no longer keep in touch.

>> No.9971025

>>9970999

>it definitely took a lot longer than 10 minutes

Transcription is a skill that you develop as you do it though. When you're first starting out your typing speed might be a little slow and you're not used to transcribing audio, but after about a week you get used to it and you can finish these jobs increasingly faster.

It's true that there's plenty of jobs that aren't worth doing, those surveys or google search jobs that pay pennies for several minutes of work just aren't worth it, but transcription is pretty great.

Hell, just look at those court transcribers. I don't know if they still exist or if they just record the audio now, but they used to sit in courts with type writers and transcribe the things that people were saying in real-time. If you take one of them, put them in front of some mechanical turk transcription jobs, and they could probably make a minimum of 20 dollars an hour assuming it took them 3 minutes to transcribe and submit two minutes of audio and each job only paid a dollar.

>> No.9971039

>>9971021
Most people I know got hired right out of university and they had never worked a day in their lifes except for the mandatory internships they did during university.
Your problem is your garbage degree, if you had a proper one, you would have no problem finding a job unless you were severely mentally disturbed or behaved like an autistic retard.
Fuck, I know computer science people who behave like that and still got hired on their skills and degree, but in that field social retardation is apparently common, so it can't be generalized.

But of course, if you have no education to show, they'll want something else.
And if you're a diamond dozen and every could do your job, they'll add more criteria because they can afford to select the best and not just anyone who is capable.
If you have truly nothing at all, then you are truly fucked, but that's absolutely not a flaw in the system.

>> No.9971044

>>9971039
Please stop being a meanie

>> No.9971049

>>9971039

>CS
>Getting hired

heheheygyheheheuhuehu....

>> No.9971065

>>9971049
Third world shitskins speak English, so it's easy to export all kinds of jobs from the Anglosphere.
But if your employees don't speak that language and your software is not in English either, you need local IT.

>> No.9971073

>>9971039

Why does everyone talk about the chances of getting a job and brag about their degree choice?

Why would you want a job? Regardless of the job and regardless of the pay that you get it's still the 40 hour work week like everybody else. Why in the world would you want this? The recommended amount of sleep is 8 hours, you work for 8 hours, and this leaves you with maybe 8 hours of free time, but that's not even counting the time it takes to drive to and from work and how you'll probably be too exhausted from working all day to have enough energy to enjoy your evenings.

How is this even remotely worth it? Being hired and getting a job is nothing to brag about. It's the exact opposite, the natural reaction should be to pity them for their misfortune of being hired.

>> No.9971086

>>9971049
I hope you're a Russian hacker who's been coding since the age of eight. Otherwise I'm going to tell you to suck my zygomorphisms, dude. Ha!

>> No.9971099

>>9971073
Most people enjoy working to some degree and if you must work or live a shitty life on the brink of starvation, you might as well go for the maximum money per time.
Also, smart people enjoy thinking and solving problems, so they tend to get degrees.

>> No.9971104

>>9971025
I'll take your word for it, since the last time I did transcription on mechanical turk was 2-3 years ago. I'm sure the companies realized that paying $1 for transcribing 15 minutes of audio wasn't a good idea (no one wants to spend that much time for so little money), so they started paying more for shorter audio clips.

Court transcribers still exist, and they can make a pretty decent salary. I remember seeing a job posting for one once and it seems like they make a lot more than anyone would expect. $40-50k or so.

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>>9971073

I don't know. Also, you're lucky to get 5 hours a day of leisure time if you work full-time. My dad only sleeps like 6 hours a day so he can squeeze more fun-time into his day, but, he's constantly tired. He professes to not hate his life, but if I was him, I'd probably kill myself.

I'm gonna go to grad school, after stretching my undergrad for 6 years (graduating next year). My dad's health insurance will only cover me until I'm 26 if I stay in school. I'd stretch it even longer and go for a doctorate, but I'm stupid, and probably won't even have the skills necessary to finish a Master's degree.

However, keep in mind, that if you want to have a family or something, you'll pretty much have to work like this. I'm not saying I or the average /jp/er wants this, but it's something to consider.

>> No.9971114

>>9971099
>solving problems
But they do the exact opposite in getting a job.

>> No.9971123

>>9971086

Are you Indian?

No? Get back in the unemployment line. Every autistic fuck in Uni gets a CS degree.

>> No.9971131

>>9971114
Getting a job fixes that problem that you have no income in the most efficient way.
Being self employed is harder and living like a hermit without any comfort is not what most people want for their life.

>> No.9971157

>>9971039
I always love people like you who have the world figured out. You're probably an edgy teenager or college student who thinks he knows it all. Why else would you be posting on /jp/ in the middle of the day? If you're a NEET, then you don't really have any right to insult other people about meaningless shit like degrees and jobs. "If only those fucking faggot idiots didn't get shitty degrees and instead majored in engineering like me, they wouldn't be in such a situation!"

What happens when everyone becomes smart like you and majors in engineering or computer science? Then suddenly there's a lot more competition for jobs and salaries will drop.

If I was an engineer or an engineering major, I would be steering people in the opposite direction: "hey man, why not go for a degree in women's studies? I hear that a lot of companies like having people with unique degrees these days!"

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>>9971114

What if you got a very high-paying job and worked for like 5-8 years and then quit, and lived off of the small dividends that your investments pay until you die in your 50s or 60s or some shit, due to your lack of exercise, poor diet, etc?

>> No.9971155

>>9971099

>Also, smart people enjoy thinking and solving problems, so they tend to get degrees.

If they were really smart then wouldn't they just bypass the whole trap of spending ridiculous amounts of money or going into a huge amount of debt so that they could learn the same things that they could have learned for free on the internet?

The smart people don't work and they don't go to college. They take the knowledge that they have and find some way to make a shitload of money without needing to get stuck in that debt trap with a 9-5.

Look at Notch for example. I'm not saying he's a genius, but he made a game, released it as an indie developer, and it got him millions of dollars and now he will never need to work another day in his life. If he had just gotten some job working for a video game developer then he will be sitting in some cubicle right now and counting down the days until the weekend.

Smart people carve their own paths in life and find a way to work for themselves rather than being an employee.

>> No.9971167

>>9971073
I wouldn't go to university either if I were American. Why do you tolerate it, by the way? The world is full of free (free as in gratis) universities but you seem to _enjoy_ the fact that only wealthy people are allowed into higher education. You even have a wonderful piece of national history that's trying to tell you how handy it is to keep the exploited uneducated.

>> No.9971187

>>9971123
Look at you being so non-autistic, shitposting on /jp/ and all.

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>>9971167
>The world is full of free (free as in gratis) universities

What? And do they give you degrees? They don't count if you have to print them off at home.

No one actually gives a shit about education; degrees are a visible watermark that says "I will put up with many years of bullshit for little yield and understand how to obey stupid orders and kiss ass." Thankfully, this coming student loan bubble is going to cause some serious pain for everyone, and might finally cause people to direct some attention to our bloated bullshit University system.

I mean seriously, land-grant Universities used to have no tuition for local residents. All you had to do was buy your books and supplies.

>> No.9971220

>>9971155
>Smart people carve their own paths in life and find a way to work for themselves rather than being an employee.
That's fallacious.
You assume that everybody only values material wealth is highly interested in economics and business.
Also, education is pretty much free in every first world country but the united states, so getting a degree carries zero risk.

>>9971157
Wow, you're seriously butthurt.
I'm just responding to the usual bullshit you see losers posts all over the internet.
>it's not my fault, it's the system's fault, I'm perfect, capitalists are rotten and corrupt
That's some infantile shit right there.
I have no problems with people being losers or having no job, I'm only interested in correcting the bullshit they spout about the reasons for that state.

>> No.9971233

>>9971212
>No one actually gives a shit about education; degrees are a visible watermark that says "I will put up with many years of bullshit for little yield and understand how to obey stupid orders and kiss ass."
I studied both engineering and a social science and neither were even remotely like that. Employers value degrees because they prove that you have certain skills and knowledge that they can work with.

>> No.9971275

>>9971212
>What? And do they give you degrees? They don't count if you have to print them off at home.
Yes, they give you real degrees. Personal wealth plays absolutely no role even if you're trying to get into the nation's most prestigious faculty. Diligence and talent are all you need and you genuinely need them if you want to study law or medicine.

>to our bloated bullshit University system
Yes, your university system. That was my point.

>> No.9971319

>>9971233
"Hey, this sucker paid a kings ransom to get a piece of paper to tell me that he knows something, since he's proven to put up with pointless bullshit, he can certainly be an asset to our company"

>> No.9971407

100, no 60 years from now everyone you see and know will be dead or a dirt oldbag, If I have learned something in my 6 NEET years is that everything is changing and its useless to feel attached at anything. Just do what you fucking want an avoid damming other people with actions or words, and try be happy without desiring happiness.

>> No.9972754

>>9971157
Hey you're assuming that the redditor you quoted has the cognitive capabilities to understand your reasoning.

Let him continue to be a mental slave.

>> No.9973506

Joke's on you, i'm not a NEET and I will regret this.

>> No.9973522

>>9971233
but I am not a neet

>> No.9973573

I'm on autismbux and my housing is paid for, so my only monthly expense is my internet connection. I also get foodstamps to the tune of $200 a month.

This leaves me with $500 disposable monthly income and no responsibilities, debts, obligations, or worries.

I spend my days reading, painting, playing games, and masturbating. When I'm feeling social I go to conventions and otaku fandom events.

My life is easy and fun, and I will never get bored because there is always something to do.

Compare this to the life of the average wage-slave who struggles to make ends meet, with no time or money left for himself.

Now ask again who should have regrets or shame. The man who enjoys his life, or the man who merely exists?

>> No.9973602

>>9973573

Not all of us can get retard money.

>> No.9973605

>>9973573
You're not one to judge others about whether or not their enjoying themselves.

>> No.9973606

>>9973573

This post is a good example of an ego protection defense mechanism. Glorifying being a major loser and (likely) a ugly as fuck nerd to make yourself feel better.

Living off of meager wages in a government sponsored ghetto with no friends or aspirations isn't "the life" despite how content you've convinced yourself to be.

>> No.9973607

Is the scared of ageing shit a new fad?

>> No.9973613

>>9973573
It doesn't sound like you have autism. You shouldn't be getting bux for it.

>> No.9973618

>>9970818

African isn't all uncivilized despite what your shitty education has taught you.

>> No.9973625

When my parents were my current age they were taking care of a 6 year old me and had a job and mortgage and all that shit.

I don't really feel bad about it, but I guess I don't feel that great either. Life hasn't been all that satisfying for me.

>> No.9973637

Why do NEETs feel like they understand the world? It is some false sense of superiority or do they really feel like they got it all figured out?

>> No.9973638

I'm currently mostly living off a combination of government grants and loans while I grab my bachelor's in mechanical engineering.

I'm already looking back at my time allocation with regret.

>> No.9973651

If you live in the US, you have to work at least like 20 years to qualify for Social Security when you are old and retired. You don't want to be 68 and homeless do you?

>> No.9973652

>>9970453
I already feel so much regret. So, so, SO much.

>> No.9973666

When I try to go out and take social risks and connect with people I regret it.

I do feel some discomfort from loneliness at times, but I feel worse from actively being confronted with my flaws and failures (especially when I'm in the process of repeatedly making them).

>> No.9973673

>>9973637
Lack of experience.

What they know is all they think the world is

>> No.9973701

>>9971275
Public universities are terrible, too. I studied for 2 years before dropping out, and this was my experience: Bullshit filler courses that are completely useless, I took 7 courses in total before quitting and only 2 were actually related to the career. The people in charge only add these in so they can a)hire relatives and friends, public employees are never fired so these people are set for life and b)ask the state for more funding, spend a part of it on uni facilities and then keep the rest to themselves. Alternatively, they just hire a friend's construction company who will overcharge the government and then go half and half. The professors are lazy, sometimes they arrive 30 or 40 minutes late, they don't care and never put in any effort. One of them even lost my exam after I handed it in and I had to retake it. I filed a complaint but no one ever called me back.
1/2

>> No.9973695

Scum of the earth each and every one of you free loading NEETS.

>> No.9973709

>>9973701
2/2. Professors will move the exam dates back and forth and expect you to follow them on twitter/shitbook to stay up to date. None of the buildings are in residential areas, enjoy riding a crowded bus for 1 hour to get to class. No transparency at all, you can only get paperwork done from 9 am to 12am, and the clerks (all of them obese women in their 50s) always leave for lunch early. The students don't give a shit either, practically half of the class cheated during the statistics exam using their smartphones, and passing notes around. Whenever the professor saw a 3DPD cheating he'd just take away her cellphone and joke about it. Males who got caught had to hand in their exams and leave the classroom. And you know what's the worst part? Putting up with 6 years of all this bullshit is not enough. After graduating, you have to be certified by the syndicate, who will charge you a monthly fee if you manage to get a job in your field.

the short time i spent in public university has made me hate statism and statists in general with a passion, I really wish everything was privatized just to see all those fat fucks lose their jobs

>> No.9973706

>>9973651
>homeless
Home is where your rump rests. I'm okay with being houseless.

>> No.9973751
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9973751

>>9973606
Does it upset you that other people are happy without working for it? Does it rustle your jimmies, /v/irgin?

Because nothing is gonna rustle my NEET jimmies, norm/a/lfag.

What I'm trying to tell you, in case you missed it due to not speaking "taking it easy", is that you should get out of /jp/.

>> No.9973771

>>9973751

is there a "Get back in /jp/' image?

>> No.9973783

>>9973771
I think "go back to /jp/" has a nicer touch.

>> No.9973785

>>9973751
Nobody here is digital. They can't “get out of /jp/” when they weren't in it in the first place.

>> No.9973788

>>9973783

I'm gonna make one

>> No.9973789

>>9973785
I'm digital.

>> No.9973795

>>9973785
Speak for yourself nerd.

>> No.9973798

>>9973618

Pftthhhaahhaaahhahahaha! Name on country in central Africa that isn't a complete fucking piece of shit.

Oh, and places like South Africa and Egypt are also shitholes, albeit not quite as bad as, say, Zimbabwe.

>> No.9973800

>>9973789
No, you're not.

>> No.9973804

>>9973751
Not him but what annoys me, not upsets me, is that he thinks he is somehow better than people who work or are less fortunate than himself.
Inflating his ego over his sub-par living conditions that he has not worked for isn't anything to be happy about. It's pathetic really and I pity him.
He will NEVER feel a true sense of accomplishment

>> No.9973811
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9973811

>>9973701
>>9973709

>I went to one shitty public university
>all public universities are like this

I see that statistics class didn't do much for you.

>> No.9973815
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9973815

>>9970919

>> No.9973824
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9973824

>>9973804

You know, I go to school and work unfortunately, but it's always so obvious that idiots have to grasp at straws to attack NEETs living on welfare that are happy with their lives.

>true sense of accomplishment

Yeah, like having a job does that for you. What a fucking joke.

>> No.9973826

I can feel my life winding down, it's getting to the point where I passed the "POINT OF NO RETURN" sign a few miles back and not far up ahead the tracks are out.

I'm just trying to figure out if I should slow down or shove in more coal and go out with a bang.

>> No.9973833

>>9973824
If it's a joke, why aren't you laughing?

>> No.9973843

>>9973804
I agree with you. I'm all for people being happy, i.e. the basic argument that there's no reason for a content/comfy NEET to be ashamed of himself. But it's stupid to try to say he's morally superior to some cherry-picked group as a way of justifying his lifestyle.

>> No.9973847

>>9973826
Stop focusing so much on the speed of the train and take a minute to look out the window, if the tracks end they end, may as well take a minute to enjoy some of the ride.

>> No.9973853

>>9973804
You know what I accomplished today? I was happy. Not briefly, not fleetingly, not ephemeral and dull. Truly, hard and clear and beautiful, I was happy all day long.

If your career rewards you like that, then good for you. If it doesn't, then I pity you, because you will never know what it is to be carefree.

Good luck, friend. Take it easy.

>> No.9973859

>>9973847
He's a human being.

A creature with the power to warp reality, if he so chooses. He can make more track.

>> No.9973867

>>9973826
>>9973847
/jp/ - DEEP Culture

>> No.9973868

>>9973833
I don't think english is your first language.

>> No.9973879

There's nothing wrong with work

>b-but you waste several hours a day!
You do the same with sleep except with work you can make money and friends
>b-but muh hedonism
You can afford more pleasurable things with money earned from work


If you want to be NEET that's your life to live, but don't mock work. Some really enjoy it, and hard work has built the civilization many of you leech off of. At least show a bit of thankfulness to the taxpayers that allow you to exist in lazy comfort instead of pretending you're some king that serfs toil for.

>> No.9973882

Say, NEETs who scrape by on disability support or whatever, I have a question.

Do you have any plans for any big unexpected expenses? Like health problems?

>> No.9973883
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9973883

I wouldn't be happy whether I was a NEET or career man. My life has been one serious, painful disappointment and saddening realization after another, with medical problems I can't afford sprinkled all over in-between.

But, at least, soon I'll be dead, and I don't even have to do anything for that to happen!

>> No.9973888

>>9973879
Why should I thank you for being too much of a pussy to stand up for yourself? Get some sleep, you've got work tomorrow.

>> No.9973887

>>9973811
Profit motive, nigger

>> No.9973891

>>9973868
I'm japanisu
So what?

>> No.9973892

>>9973868
Neither do I.

>> No.9973895

My only true regret is I never got a dream. Not even that /jp/ dream.

>> No.9973896

>>9973882
My medical expenses are paid for by taxpayers as well.

>> No.9973897

>>9973891
Then suck my cock, dude.

>> No.9973899

>>9973888
Stand up for what?

>> No.9973900
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9973900

>>9973887

Yeah, that's exclusive to public universities. Right.

It's definitely obvious education isn't for you.

>> No.9973904

>>9973895
You're supposed to get your sense of achievement from playing maniac STG games.

If you have shit reflexes, at least consider playing an MMO or some infinite jRPG like Disgaea.

>> No.9973906

You people disgust me

>> No.9973908

>>9973879
>You can afford more pleasurable things with money earned from work

Like?
Also it's been proven that if you're generally an unhappy person you'll be one regardless of how much wealth you require. A millionaire /jp/sie and a poor one will have about the same amount of misery as long as they're both NEETs.

What I like about you guys is how you don't care about the expensive things that everyone else fawns for.

>> No.9973910

>>9973888
I am standing up for myself. I'm supporting myself with my own money and earning my own place in the world. I'm contributing instead of just taking.

>> No.9973914

>>9973883
That sounds horrible. Do you have some kind of terminal illness or something?

>> No.9973916

The normalfag butthurt from these kind of threads are amazing.

I just can't get enough of this.

>> No.9973920

>>9973910
That sounds horrible. Do you have some kind of terminal illness or something?

>> No.9973922

>>9973916
So if you aren't NEET your a normalfag?

>> No.9973926

>>9973916
There's no butts to be hurt around here?

I think you need a nice nap, Anonymous.

>> No.9973932

>>9973910
Good! You keep doing that.

While the government takes from you, and your boss takes from you, and the toll of years rots your youth in the service to somebody else's wallet. I'll be playing the new VNs and having onahole general threads.

>> No.9973933

>>9973896
Are medical expenses the only kind of big expenses that could ever occur?

>> No.9973935

>>9973922
If you take anything you've read on 4chan seriously, you are a normalfag.

>> No.9973938

I just wanted to have a place to hang out with like minded people, without normals forcing their values. Why can't I even have just that, why am I not allowed to have anything. Why is even this being taken from me /jp/

>> No.9973939

>>9973920
No, but thank you for the response!

>> No.9973940

>>9973916
Normals don't know how to take it easy.

>> No.9973943

>>9973916
Well eventually normalfag closet-otakus will absolutely overwhelm /jp/ and its culture will permanently reflect their norms. Go down trolling I guess.

>> No.9973949

>>9973933
Medical expenses are the only large involuntary expenses in life. A car isn't that big, you can get a used BMW for 4k through a private seller. A house is irrelevant, because anyone getting SSD would also qualify for the many programs which will pay your rent.

So, yeah, everything is paid for. Good times.

>> No.9973945

>>9973926
>There are no butts
Please exercise proper grammar and spelling.

>> No.9973951

>>9973933

What else is there?

>> No.9973954

>>9973943
The thought of losing this last place in my life makes me sick to the stomach, that is it actually makes me feel nauseous. I don't know how I could go on with my life

>> No.9973960

>>9973949
What if there's a disaster (like, say, a big flood due to a hurricane) and there's not enough public housing for everyone, and you get the short straw?

I know that bad things (layoffs and disasters and etc.) happen to workers too, but generally they have savings and other buffers to get them through, so I'm wondering if any NEETs have that.

>> No.9973962

>>9973954

That's the price you pay for living as a leech; absolute and utter societal shame. If you were truNEET, you wouldn't care.

>> No.9973971

>>9973962
I meant how much /jp/ means to me, I wouldn't expect a disgusting normal like yourself to understand.

>> No.9973972

>>9973960
There is no extreme weather where I live. No tornados, hurricanes, tsunamis. Also, no seismic faults of significance, or volcanic shit.

>> No.9973973

>>9973900
>Profit motive
>Yeah, that's exclusive to public universities. Right.

If you had no idea what the profit motive even was then you shouldn't have bothered responding.

>> No.9973981
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9973981

>>9973971

/jp/ is a resultant phenomena of society, turbonerd. It IS part of society, and you will be shunned and shamed here as well. I look forward to your further pain and suffering as /jp/ becomes worse and worse.

>> No.9973976

>>9973932
>muh freedoms
You're not free from anything. No one takes because you have nothing to offer. You're still stuck in the womb, sucking nutrients from others, unable to do anything but fantasize and listen to the lives of others. You haven't even learned what reality is or what it means to live.

Unfortunately you will age as we all will, I have no issues with the aging aspect. I'll still be here, in your VN threads and onahole threads, and you'll talk with me and laugh with me none-the-wiser.

>> No.9973988

>>9973879

I don't look down on the serfs toiling in corporate fiefdoms.. I pity them.

That's why I'm trying to get into hospice - rather than working for the machine and the sluts in suits who run it, I can try to provide some measure of psychological relief to it's cast-off byproduct and their families.

>> No.9973990

>>9973981
What are you even talking about?

>> No.9973991

Can't we all just get along?

Can't the NEETs and the workers respect each other and not try to feel better about themselves by putting the other down?

>> No.9973992

>>9973939
Why are you so certain you'll be dead soon anon?

>> No.9973994

>>9973879
>money
Shit nigga I love me some money that's good stuff that buys me manga and anime.
>friends
You're an idiot.

>> No.9973996

>>9973976
Good ending!

>> No.9974003

>>9973976
Except you're a normalfaggot, so you don't visit those threads.

>> No.9974010

whats so wrong with living for the sake of an enjoyable life...

>> No.9974009

>>9973988

Pitying someone is looking down on them, just so you know.

Also, I don't think pity is a real emotion. I don't understand it at all. How do you feel pity for someone? How can you feel anything but disgust and superiority to something that you "pity"?

>> No.9974015

>>9973891
>japanisu
But japanese can be spelled in hiragana じゃぱんえせ。 Why would a tru日本人 misspell it?

>> No.9974016

>>9973991
No, because workers are dicks who feel like they need to bury us in feces every chance they get just because we don't have jobs and enjoy our time in different things instead. I think it's envy.

>> No.9974023

>>9973945
Your and ideot baka,

>> No.9974033

>>9974023
Your a fucking moran.

>> No.9974034

>>9974009
Because I feel sad for them, you unfeeling shitdick.

If my circumstances were the same as theirs.. well it's best not to think about it.

>> No.9974042

>>9974034
You seem like a very unhappy person. Every post drips with venom and cynicism.

That worker's life sure isn't treating you very well.

>> No.9974043

>>9973991
No, because NEETs are dicks who feel like they need to bury workers in feces every chance they get just because we have a job and enjoy doing the same things as them while also working hard to make money and contribute to society. I think it's envy.

>> No.9974053

>>9974043
I think we're the only two left in this thread. Should we call it good?

>> No.9974063 [DELETED] 

>>9974043
Not really, NEET threads are like a honey pot to you guys and you know it.
Just take a look at this OP.

>> No.9974065

>>9974042
The post isn't dripping...

You don't make any sense.

>> No.9974081

>>9974042

Why, because I called you a shitdick?

I'm currently in NEETland, but trying to leave on my own terms.

>> No.9974088

>>9974053
Yeah sounds good. I just want to make sure /jp/ sticks to discussions instead of circlejerks. One-sided arguments will make you weak in the face of adversity.

>> No.9974119

>>9971157
>If I was an engineer or an engineering major, I would be steering people in the opposite direction

That's exactly what I do. I've mentioned numerous times that I'm in Uni, but I've never mentioned my major. Sorry /jp/, if you want to run with me you're going to have to figure it out yourself. I changed my major twice because of this.

>> No.9974137
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9974137

I intend to buy a cabin and then simply lock the door. If you're a homeowner there's no rent, and firewood and food is essentially free if you know what you're doing.

Old houses like these run for ~6-7000 USD. My current savings aren't far off. The route of the hermit is inevitable.

>> No.9974213

Old pedophiles are creepy and I hate them.

I'm killing myself on my 30th birthday (if I fail to become a wizard somehow).

>> No.9974207

>>9974137
Why would you need that much space? You can build a 10x10x10 cube for about 4-6000 USD and it's much better for a single dweller.

>> No.9974217

>>9974207
What if I want to invite a girl over?

>> No.9974214

>>9974207
Not everyone wants a 10x10x10 cube.

>> No.9974222

>>9974207
Because with cheap, timber heating you might as well opt for the super-sized meal.

>> No.9974225

>>9974137
how will you post on /jp/

>> No.9974240
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I already regret the last 10 years of my life. I fucked around in high school taking classes that my friends were in rather than the ones I wanted to take, and I did the same in uni. I didn't even hang out with them outside of classes, either. I pretended I had something else to do every time and would run home to shitpost on /a/ or /jp/ after the split.

Now I'm in my 6th year and I still haven't gotten the biology degree that I don't even want, while all my friends either dropped out or graduated years ago and left me behind. I fucked myself over and now I'm just waiting for a good opportunity to kill myself. I don't have the motivation to get into a field I'm actually interested in like CS and try to make up for a decade of lost time.

>> No.9974242

>>9974225
I can get a 3G reception far out in the fells. I think it'll work in the forest.

>> No.9974290
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9974290

Guys, I'm done

>> No.9974297

>>9974290
LOL WHAT A PHOTOSHOP SCRUB

>> No.9974301

>>9974240
CS is one of the few fields where a good portfolio/demonstrated knowledge are far far more useful that any degree anyway.

>> No.9974302

>>9974290
Awesomeee!

I'm going to go around to other boards and spout /jp/ memes (even though the shitposts here are probably top-notch quality on most of them LMFOA ^_^), and you can follow me around and post it!

>> No.9974314

>>9974240
> I pretended I had something else to do every time and would run home to shitpost on /a/ or /jp/ after the split.

I used to regret this as well, but I then I made a new group of friends in college and realized that I just don't like being around people.

I do regret getting a finance degree over CS though. Was thinking that I would make a ton of money and retire early, but now doing IT and learning how to program from scratch with an unutilised degree.

>> No.9974342

>>9974314
You're saying you can't do anything with a finance degree? What's the problem?

>> No.9974345

>>9974301
From what I've heard the degree itself lands you a job.

>> No.9974350

Fuck work.

I'm going to sit back and wait for the Singularity.

>> No.9974359

>>9974314
>I just don't like being around people.

That's pretty much it. I feel compelled to have friends and hang out with them for some irrational reason, but I'm constantly looking for an opportunity to get away when I'm actually doing it.

At least a finance degree is worth a shitload more than a BS in Biology.

>> No.9974363

>>9974350
What if it never comes? What's your plan B? Serious question.

>> No.9974367

>>9974314
I graduated around the time the financial markets went to hell and there were no finance jobs available, but plenty of IT jobs. I'm not sure if I even want to do finance any more since I would have to start with entry level jobs.

>> No.9974369

GENERIC NEET TOPIC #822222222222222

are you guys robots? seriously, the same thing is being repeated every day

>> No.9974371

>>9974367
>I would have to start with entry level jobs.

Well what the fuck else would you start with?

>> No.9974374

People are terrible. I went to buy beef jerky from a gas station last week, and an old high school friend, who wasn't even as nerdy as I was, drove up and said hi. He did some bullshit for some chemical company that saved them millions, so they gave him $5M (or so he claims) as a bonus, and now he never has to work again.

He just popped up out of nowhere after eight years and had the gall to be happier and richer than me. Fuck him.

>> No.9974375

>>9974369
I enjoy wallowing in despair with my fellow failures. It's the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

>> No.9974385

>>9974375
a comedean tells a joke to audience

audience laugh.

he tells the same joke again

some audience laugh.

he tells the same joke again

few audience laugh.

he tells the same joke again

nobody laugh.

why do you keep crying over the same thing everyday for years, HUH?

>> No.9974386

>>9970727
No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?
On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammeled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains.

>> No.9974389

>>9974363
Death. I've got no other skills. If my parents die, then I'll have no means of support, no one to keep me sane, and nothing to do. The house will be taken for property taxes and I'll be homeless. I already hallucinate and talk to myself for hours on end, so being a crazy homeless guy was probably my calling in life anyway. Then i can die on the streets, because I'd be too scared to as people for money.

Really. Technology and the end of scarcity is my only hope.

>> No.9974393

I have to work tomorrow. It's my first job and I'm part-time/min. wage so I was able to claim exempt or some shit like that, meaning my check won't be taxed for six months.

I don't hate working but I definitely miss being NEET, and if I had a choice I would remain unemployed, but I feel a little warm inside knowing that next year some of my money might be going to one of you guys. I wish I could have total control over how my tax money will be used. I'd give it all to you /jp/.

>> No.9974398

>>9974371
That's my point. Despite having a finance degree, now that I'm already on the IT track, it doesn't make too much sense to switch back.

>> No.9974399

>>9974385
Because occasionally there's a new joke. You can have more than one joke for a single topic.

I usually just scroll down these threads to read posts with 3+ quotes. They're usually decent unless it's some tripfag attention whoring.

>> No.9974402

>>9974389
How is that your only hope?

>> No.9974407

>>9974385
Good things only work once or for a limited time.
Bad things never stop working.

Wanna bet that if I stab you for the 100th time it'll still hurt?

>> No.9974409

>>9974399
Really? I haven't seen any new jokes in a while, and I'm on /jp/ and in these threads 18 hours a day.

>> No.9974425

>>9974409
I occasionally hop on /r9k/, they generally have new stories there for me to repost on /jp/ with nobody being the wiser.

>> No.9974431

>>9974402
Ever heard the saying: "while there's life, there's hope"?

There's only one case where this is 100% accurate. That's when your hope is to die. You can't argue with that. It's a failproof logic.

>> No.9974428

>>9974407
Eventually it will stop hurting, though.

>> No.9974432

>>9974369
The threads aren't going away. Fuck off and hide them if you don't like them.

>> No.9974457

>>9974402
Because I hope to one day immerse myself in a perfectly realistic virtual world full of /jp/ers (or most people from 4chan really; despite the hate they get, most people here are much better than the outsiders) where we can be happy and free. I want to be able to join virtual worlds with advanced AI and play out the lives of the MC like a super VN with infinite choices.

It would be nice, but my real life is a just series of miserable defeats that keep marching towards a terrible, lonely, cold death.

>> No.9974461

>>9974431
You don't truly die; your body simply deteriorates while your soul moves on to the next vessel.

>> No.9974468

>>9974461
Take your Hindu bullshit back to India, and take that shitty nirvana band with you.

>> No.9974475

>>9974468
The point stands regardless.

>> No.9974481

>>9974240
You went to highschool? Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.9974483

>>9974475
It's one possible afterlife out of a fuckton. Unless you prove beyond all doubt.

>> No.9974488

>>9974369
We tend to repeat ourselves because we're depressed.

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