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le feel when I can't beat EoSD on easy

>>9797118
Use shift to focus.

>>9797132
I use L1 to focus. I suck even worse with a keyboard.

>>9797137
Personally keyboards feel snappier than more precise to me than controllers. But I remember a while back in one of these threads someone said that an arcade stick with a looser stick than fighting game sticks usually have is great for STGs. Or something like that. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? Or does anyone have any specific recommendations for STG arcade sticks?

>>9797118
Get over here bro

Why am I so bad?

Shit I was some time preparing that post to let anyone try streaming.

Complete guide for streaming you 2hus:

1.st step:Go to this page and follow up the instructions for setting up the Flash Media Live Encoder and SCFH:

http://thelivegameshq.com/public/FME.html

2nd step: Go to your sound control panel. Go to options > properties and select audio imput. Make sure that "Stereo Mix" is selected. Now, the window should have changed and should be showing: general volume, line volume and Stereo Mix... select stereo mix. Close that shit.

3rd step: Now open the Flash Media Live enconder and scfh and set it like the webpage mentioned above says.

4th step: Go to twitch.tv and make an account. Once you are logged in, go a down a little and you should find a button with the title "become a broadcaster". Select and then, download the config file that Twitch tv gives you to configure the Flash Media Live enconder.

5th Step: Go to the Media live encoder and go to file > Open profile and select the Configuration file you donwloaded from Twitch.tv

6th Step: Set everything as you like in the video and audio options. You can even record the stream in a file on your computer. keep in mind the bandwidth needed for the stream and your connection capabilities.

7th step: Start streaming and go to your Twitch.tv channel to ensure that everything is working.


USUAL PROBLEMS:

- Lag in your game: change the resolution to the minimun, play on windowed mode, change color to 16 bits, play at halve the frames etc.

Sound problems:

Download the full version of Virtual Audio Streaming. Use your google-fu to get a crack.

Open it and set it as the default sound playback device. Now go to Adobe Flash Media live enconder and set Virtual Audio Streaming as the sound recording device. You should start seeing movement on the sound bars on the side of the video example meaning that you are now getting sound.

Byakuren: 9
Marisa: 1

Marisa's clearly the better magician here.

anyone up for a stream?

>>9797669
Seconded.

Now that was shit.

Looking into it, NMNB could be achievable. I'd just have to plan the spots where to break the borders at.

Maybe some day, feels too tasking right now.

>>9797669

I'm depressed and I want to hear your voice /jp/

Don't you get bored of Touhou by now?

>>9797748
All the time. Just take a break every once in a while.

>>9797748
All the time, when playing such an easy game, it gets kind of boring :V!

The last thing I've actually had fun doing in these games was probably IN Lunatic Ultra 1cc. Because Lunatic was too easy :V Ketsui was a helluva lot more fun than 2hu for me.

>mostly play with marisab
>decide to go for a reimua run
>didn't know that patchouli switches spellcards
>she kicks my ass
Fuck her.

>>9797883

You can play Touhou and other shmups you know...

>>9797883
Fucking hell man, I have nothing against you or your posts, but cut the colonvees already.

>>9797900
I know that. But playing other STGs and then coming back to Touhou gives me bad habits for whatever reason.

>>9797901
It's a habit. My apologies.

>>9797911

I dunno... I can take a run on PCB or UFO and then go back to Ketsui or DOJ with no problems... which are those bad habits you are talking about?

>>9797669
STWREAAAMMM JAYPEE!!

>>9797669
Somebody! Anybody!

come on JPs... I didn't post that guide up there for nothing. Try streaming yourselves.

>>9797669
I'm dying /jp/, only your voice can save me~

>>9797988
$400 laptop ;_;

No luck for you today JPs...

>>9798319
b-but someone always streams for /jp/... ;w;

>>9798966
I can stream later tonight, if you want...

Maybe Samidare extra or no-shields or something. Or a Touhou.

>>9799031
Touhou 11 Ultra Lunatic pacifist perfect

if T can do it on his first try, you can too~

>>9799037
I can't even do regular Touhou 11 Lunatic...

I got streaman to work, major thanks to >>9797180 (Except for audio, there's no hope for that), but it's been 3months since I played, and on top of that I'm not used to windowed mode, so bear with me. If /jp/ doesn't mind that and the lack of audio then I'll be glad to stream sometime today.

>>9799266
That's alright, but lack of audio is heart-wrenching.
Any idea as to what's the problem?

>>9799276
FME won't pick up Virtual Audio Streaming, Stereo Mix won't show up on this system either, and I can't be assed to download old drivers for it.

>>9799297
Oh god I missed something big, I was reading the streaming guide on the old thread, and this wasn't on it.
>Download the full version of Virtual Audio Streaming. Use your google-fu to get a crack.

I can probably get audio after this now.

UFO Perfect Pacifist Lunatic Run No Miss 90fps with no milk.

>>9799309

Fairy Wars Lunatic All Gold Medal No Freeze No Bomb No Miss Run.

PCB is the worst Touhou game by far, so boring

>>9799337
UFO Perfect Pacifist Lunatic Run No Focus No Bomb Horizontal Movement Only No Miss 90fps.

>>9799364
If you play for survival, maybe.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=24203

Barely cleared, but I did it. I wish I performed better on Orin Jr. though.

>>9799297
>Stereo Mix won't show up on this system either
Make sure Show Disabled Devices is checked on the Recording pane. Right click.

http://www.livestream.com/stouhou
Riz is not playing very well at the moment, so he'll probably be taking it easy.

I just started touhou for the first time. It's hard and stressful as fuck and I have no idea why I'm having so much fun.

Is this the point of no return?

>>9799946
You've already passed it.

/jp/ still want streaming? I can do 'bout an hour, I think.

>>9801006
Sweet, go ahead.

>>9801025
A'ight, lemme know what you want me to play while I set things up and eat this breakfast burrito.

http://www.livestream.com/ofdotsanddodging
in ~5 minutes

I like touhou, but I can't really get past level three on any games without continuing a bunch of times. Yes, I'm using shift, I'm just terribad :D

It doesn't seem like passing through blasts horizontally triggers them as damage. I might just be getting lucky though.

>>9801079
How long have you been playing, anon?

>>9801048
>bout an hour
>14 mins later

Streaming some SA here. Picture needed because without it I'm spamming ;_;

>>9801079
>It doesn't seem like passing through blasts horizontally triggers them as damage
You're more likely to be hit moving horizontally than any other movement (besides maybe diagonally downwards into the bullets), at nearly any given time.

Stop moving so much. If you have to mention that you're moving horizontally a lot it probably means you're spazzing around everywhere, which is a really common thing with new players.

First phantasm clear
I lost 2 lives to Boundary of human and youkai then i had to bomb through it. I still don't know how to deal with it.

I also lost a life to Danmaku bounded field when i can capture Profound danmaku bounded field easily. Such a shame.

>>9799266
>and on top of that I'm not used to windowed mode

To mitigate this, use the vpatch ini file to change the dimensions of the window (on the old ones. The new ones let you do it out the box). I use 1280x960, it's a nice compromise that allows you to see the chat and have things not be tiny.

>>9797180

Actualization on this shit.

I mentioned Virtual Audio Streaming but I can't find a frigginpatch that works (the program keeps saying "Trial" from time to time. That wourldn't be a problem if it didn't desynchronize audio and video.

2nd thing: If you play windowed mode, the bigger the window, the bigger the lag you'll get. Keep that in mind.

Devil's Recitation. How do the bullets tick? The bubbles are obviously aimed at you, but how do the orbs fired from the edges target? Or do they at all?

>>9802325

Is that based on CPU cycles (encoding the video) or internet up? I use livestream with the video locked at 640x480 and haven't noticed that particularly.

>>9802350

2 things.

1st: the lag you get depends on your PC's specs. The bandwidth transmited to livestream or twitch.tv servers is allways the one specified by the Flash Media Live encoder.

2nd: Don't use livestream nor even think about using procaster. the program will suck dry your PC's resources (specially your RAM memory) compared to Flash Media Live Encoder. And don't use Livestream because it limits your bandwidth to 500 Kb/s maximum on your stream while Twitch.tv lets you stream whatever bandwidth you want.

>>9802414
>Random Access Memory Memory

>>9802416

This things happen if your native language isn't english (^_^)U

>>9802414

My computer is powerful enough for it to not be an issue, my internet isn't good enough for the limitation to be an issue, and to be quite frank I have it working already and do not care to fuck around trying to get this other one working.

>>9802428
No worries.

Could someone stream?

>>9797147
It's generally thought that Seimitsu's are better for STGs, because they have a smaller deadzone, and Sanwa's are better for fighters, but there both fine for either, it's just what you get used to/personal preference really.

>>9802606

Let's have cozy feels of afternoon (in Europe)/ morning (in America) streaming.

Still no streams? ;__;

Anyone still playing PoFV online nowadays?

>>9802813
I tried to play with someone recently, but I ran into the problem where I (as the second player/client) couldn't control anything, and couldn't remember how to fix it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>9802810
http://www.twitch.tv/sl33p3r

>>9802832
This is the shooting game thread, after all.

>>9802819
T-that's not Touhou...

It looks like a s-shitty FPS.

>>9802819
You tricked me!

So... there is no kind sould in this beautiful day who would stream for us?

>>9802987
I'd stream but I'm really bad and you guys would all bully me.

I wish i could stream

>>9802992
There are no bullies on /jp/.

>>9802987

I'm considering streaming in a while. Have been feeling lethargic as hell today so I have a bad feeling my play will be worse too.

>>9803001

Got your nose! What are you going to do about it, geek?

le gefühl when my internet is too shitty to stream

>>9803005
Keep it. It's not like I need it or anything.

>>9803010
I know, bro. I can't even watch a stream without lag. Damn, 10 years after dial-up and i still can't watch a stream.

How can anyone enjoy playing SanaeB in UFO? The unrefined destruction is all over the place how am I supposed to deal precise damage aaaaaaa

>>9803107
Do a pacifist run like a real man.

>>9803107

The play with Marisa A and stop bitching

Argh, I hate when I get motivated to actually play these games and then watch some people streaming and clearing Lunatics on their fifth try. Frustrates me to no end. It completely destroys any sort of motivation I had to play these games.

>>9803163
Aye aye. Or better, some people clearing Lunatics on their first try without ever trying it before.

>>9803169
I don't think that's even possible unless you spent hours a day watching superplays before bothering to play the game. I know some people here who do that, but I don't think they were able to clear Lunatic Ultras on their first try.

Well, maybe T or Nindel, but they don't count.

>>9803219
Oops. I thought I typed "fifth" there, but that works as well.

>>9803235
Beating Lunatics on your fifth try is still damn awesome and takes a lot of what I call natural talent.

Still nobody interested in streaming? What a sad and sorrowful weekend!

>>9803280
Nobody play touhou anymore.

>>9803280
I might stream in around 30 minutes, but am not very experienced.

>>9803292
Are you giving me an order?

>>9803294
Yay!

>>9803299
the "s" ran away from me

So I managed to 1cc the games on normal. Should I be able to start trying on lunatic, or would the jump be too much and just burn me out?

>>9803340
I started playing all of them after EoSD on Lunatic and I was fine. EoSD was my first shmup, though, so I went a bit easier on that.

>>9803340
I started out on Lunatic. I'm sure you can do it 'cause well I'm fucking horrible and I did it.

>>9803340
I started out playing Touhou with UFO Lunatic and 1cc'd it after around 10 hours. I'm terrible with an awful 984M score, if I can do it, you can too~

People that have spent thousands of hours playing STGs (or anything else) worked very hard to gain their skills. Please do not insult their efforts by calling them "talented".

>>9802813
I do, but whenever I play with /jp/ers, the inputlag is unbearable.

Oh, and I want Yuuka to crush my head between her thighs~

>>9803396
Great job with your estimates!

>>9803294
Still waiting.....

>>9803294
>>9803301
twitch.tv/denpa2hu
Playing some EoSD

>>9803407
Oh, come on. How can you say that somebody ISN'T talented when they manage to 1cc a Lunatic within their first few runs? Sure, you could say they have prior STG skills, but it's still a big feat.

Watching >>9803619
it's his first few tries too. And look at him go, NB Lunatic EoSD. He makes it to Stage 4 with full lives, first try. What in the name of fuck. I know survival isn't too impressive, but still.

>>9803692
He has played EoSD before, though

>>9803692
You're being silly. What do you mean "first few tries". First few tries of the day? People don't forget everything they've learned overnight.

It's not magic. People are just pulling from experience.

>>9803786
I think he meant first few runs as in first few runs ever. That is talent. The person streaming right now has played the game before, and his skill developed through rigorous practice.

Prior STG experience plays a big role here. Touhou is my first danmaku. When i try other danmaku games, i can see all the patterns are very similar to touhou and i can dodge them with ease. I get used to the new hitbox in just a few minutes thank to playing PC-98 touhou before. All the skills from touhou can be transfered to the new games and vice versa.

I doubt that there is any guy who hasn't played STG before can 1cc lunatic in just a few runs. But i believe that there must be some people who have played DDP before can 1cc touhou lunatic in a few runs.

>>9803858
DDP's first loop isn't much harder than most Touhou games on Hard. The second loop is where shit gets real and puts you to the test.But until then, it's basically a streaming tutorial sans the bosses. But of course, I've only ever seen up to 2-5 in the second loop.

Yours truly, the 94M always game over at 2-4 scrub.

I'm never gonna NMNB this.

going to have a pofv tourney next sat on irc. running signups through motk, but if you have a deathly allergic reaction to that place or whatever then just join ppirc #pofvt and talk to me

details: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13491.0.html

>>9802813
i'm usually game. on rizon #pofv in the evenings, east coast time. or just join ppirc #pofvt since right now there isn't a single other person on rizon #pofv who plays pofv

>>9802816
under custom/custome.exe, do you have "1p-side operation" set to "keyboard: all"? my guess is that you have that set to something else

>>9803891
go do nue, she's easier

>>9803951
What kinds of players are you looking for? Is it an open tourney?

Reason being is that I would like to play, I'm not spectacular though.

>>9804185
He posted a link on /jp/. What kind of players do you think he's looking for?

I was going to try streaming for /jp/...but that last stream made me feel so pathetic about how shitty I am that I actually attempted EoSD on lunatic.

I couldn't make it past Hong. I feel like shit.

>>9804321
We don't care if you can't beat EoSD on Lunatic. I do know what you're feeling, though.

>>9804321
It's K, anon. Naturally talented people exist within all game genres.

It's nearly as soul crushing when you play with somebody who never played GG(so they say...) and the destroy you with your own character with next to no effort. Immensely depressing. It makes me wonder why I even bothered to pour all those hours into practicing everything, only to get crushed by somebody who hasn't even played the game before.

>>9804403
Yeah... Makes me wonder why I play these games. I don't think I've been getting anywhere for the last 50 hours. I must have hidden masochistic tendencies.

What have I done... /jp/ has turned into Streaming/General. Last night, I had over 20 people in my stream at one time, and I didn't even advertise very hard. We have developed a very unique community from these threads.

>>9802343
The purple bullets are vaguely aimed.
>>9803107
With skill.
>>9803163
It should increase your motivation.
>>9803340
That depends. Play whatever you enjoy.
>>9804334
Then stream and let us guide you.
>>9804419
>I don't think I've been getting anywhere for the last 50 hours.
That isn't a lot. Keep practicing.

>>9804500
>I didn't even advertise very hard.
You didn't even post in the right thread.

>>9797180
The stream only shows my desktop when I play fullscreen, how do I fix this?

Decided to play UFO because it's the only game I haven't finished on normal yet. Died stupidly on stage 2 so I wasn't expecting much, but I managed to get through stages 3 and 4 pretty much perfectly. I ended up getting to stage 6 with 5 lives, but I threw all of them away in the most retarded ways possible. Byakuren isn't even that hard on normal, but I keep fucking up somehow.

>>9804522
I think you have to play windowed, but I'm talking out of my ass here. I've certainly never heard of anyone streaming full screen.

>>9804500
It won't increase his motivation if it took him 300 hours to 1cc fucking hard of all things, and then suddenly some faggot 1ccs Lunatic with NO PRIOR STG PRACTICE AT ALL.

>>9804528
I always play fullscreen, even while streaming.

>>9804529
No one will 1cc a game on Lunatic with no prior experience

>>9804529
>then suddenly some faggot 1ccs Lunatic with NO PRIOR STG PRACTICE AT ALL.
Because this totally happens. All the time.

>>9804536
Do you have several monitors for chat or something?

>>9804403
It's called experience. Somebody who already has a rock solid understanding of fighting game fundamentals (such as pro players - Daigo, Jwong, Tokido, etc.) can pick up any game and start destroying in no time because they've already spent years gaining knowledge that translates to every game in the genre.

The same can be said of games in any genre. Yusemi SWY, GFA2 ISO, Clover TAC, etc. demolish every shump they play because they've spend so many years grinding their knowledge and skill.

>>9804185
yes, everyone is welcome. i encourage you to participate

based on current sign-ups, skill levels range from novice to very good. so there should be decent matches for just about everyone, especially since it's double-elimination. and folks have been playing and chatting every once in a while on the irc channel, so if nothing else you can always hang out and play a bit outside of the tourney

>>9804559
I do have two monitors, yes.

>>9804522
http://www.twitch..tv/cactu1/b/334022502
Here is a video example, 1:30 or so. Help would be appreciated.

>>9804508
And I still broke my viewer record.
>>9804528
I always stream full screen. I did it with both Procaster and SCHF DSF
>>9804529
I think you are making things up. I've never heard of anyone who can come close to doing that.

Playing for score sucks - http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41394

Scoreless shooter mods: "Scoring" for survival - http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41427

>>9805337
it doesnt suck as much as youre mother

>>9805337
icyclown doesn't know shit. Stop posting this here.

>>9805337
I'm just coming here from IRC to laugh at your scrubby ass. Not playing for score? You're pathetic.

What Touhou game should I start with?
I only played a small bit of Embodiment one time.

>>9806217
Start with Story of Eastern Wonderland, then skip Dim Dream and play Lotus Land Story. Then continue to go in chronological order.

>>9806261
Explore them all and play the one you like best.

>>9806217
Explore them all and play the one you like best.

Why is my Samidare title screen like this.
The rest of the game is completely fine, it's just that the title screen is blocked by this orange overlay, it seems.

>>9806217
Start with whichever you like and try all of them.
The ones before EoSD are quite different and tbh not very good.

Streaming Story of Eastern Wonderland all day.

es-es.twitch.tv/oskarvanbruce

Shitty gaming cause I'm not using a gamepad. Gonna play until I cannot stand this game anymore.

>>9807877
>Shitty gaming cause I'm not using a gamepad.
people play these games with a pad?

>>9808088
It's possible and actually pretty confortable when you get used to it. Now I prefer D-pad (analog was shitty) to keyboard

>>9808088
Gamepad and stick put movement on a hand that feels more natural for some people.

>>9808088
Real gamers grew up with pads. Holding a stick palm up with gay wiggle action => hipster.

>>9807877
Oh god, this guy is so awful he can't even get past Meira

>>9808205
Hey! Please don't me mean...

>>9808205

I'm actually good when playing with a gamepad... but SoEW cannot be played with a gamepad so I'm completely out of my element.

On the topic of PC-98, is NEXT the only good one? Anex86 runs like shit and is out of sync.

>>9807877

Well... I'm tired of SoEW already. It has been fun but still a bit masochistic from my part playing with a keyboard.

>>9808551

Now if someone would me me see their suffering playing some shmup I would relax a little.

>>9808230
Joy2Key or xpadder?

>>9808333
Is there any reason you don't want to use Next?

>>9808867
More tot he point of knowing about other options (and/or not knowing how to configure Next).

FUCK YES PERFECT RUN EXTRA STAGE PERFECT GOD TIER HIGH LEVEL PERFECT GAMEPLAY PERFECTED RAN OMG LOL EPICCC XD
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=24265

Totally worth my time, don't even try to oppose!


I failed on the survival

>>9809279
Did you forget to pop a border on the survival or something. Way to go, dumbass.

>>9804522 here
still need help

>>9808874
aside from maybe needing to set full screen display under gdc.nhw (device manager tab), there shouldn't be anything to configure. open roms by clicking the box next to "edit" under one of the hd drives (main tab, disk subtab), and start by clicking the power button (topmost one). that's it

now go get podd and eat crosses

>>9810211
Oh shit, the games are translated now?

>>9809279
Wow, you suck. Watching that replay was almost as bad as battling shit players in AC.

>>9809328
But the survival is super easy and breaking a border invalidates "perfect" anyways

Why am I so shit at Touhou? Can't even get past stage 4 on PCB without replays... I can do it perfectly fine on practice, but when it's the real deal, I flop.

>>9810296
soew had a patch a while back, and a partial patch of podd was released a couple months ago. podd: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13151.0.html

i haven't heard anything about lls or ms, but i also haven't been paying attention

>>9808333
Change your settings to something like this, the rest can remain unchanged.

>>9810459
There's the X button. Press it more.

>>9810651
Every time I press it, I'm a tenth of a second too late. I see it and when I press it I'm already dead.

>>9810459
>replays
Therein lies the answer.

>>9810681
So uh... Constantly go through 1-4 with no replays again and again until I rip my hair out? Got it.

>>9810702
No, just watch a replay, there'll be stuff there which'll probably make you kick yourself.
Use continues to unlock the stage for practice, then go and give it a few goes on stage practice.
It'll all add up to the 1cc.

>>9810660
I always had this issue of having a slow reaction speed. What I did was change the button mapping for the bomb to L1 on the controller. Your finger should rest naturally close to that, is easier to press, and you can press it with the joint of your left thumb. I became a lot more proficient at using bombs after that.

That said, I've still not managed to 1cc hard on any game yet, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Try it and see if it works for you, though.

>>9810660
You're supposed to make the decision to bomb before you die, not after. Deathbomb timer in most games with most characters is .2 seconds or less, so generally shorter than human reaction time. If you wait until you actually see your death to press the button, as you say, you will already be dead.

>>9810420
You didn't watch the replay.

>>9809279

>>9810829
What is the average human reaction time? I thought it was about .1

>>9811207
Try 0.2-0.3.

>>9811222
Once again, I prove to be an amazing person.

Touhou 7 because it's fun.
5 minutes or so and we'll be live~

twitch.tv/exxelent

>>9802813
What reason is there to keep playing PoFV?
I mean, you could get all the PoFV characters on UNL, and from what I understand, they're essentially the same game.

Is UFO even possible on any difficulty higher than normal? This bitch keeps raping me with her old man fists.

>>9811796
You're confusing PoFV, the shmup, with SWR, the fighter.

>>9811816
Ah, thank you.
All these offbeat names always get me confused.

>>9811806

I've gotten past her...Once. With a lot of bombs. She's definitely not impossible, just keep going at it.

Does anyone know how why this happens or how I can fix it? I tried installing PCB on a new computer, but I can't get it to not run at 1000+ FPS. ESoD and IN (and every newer Touhou game) work just fine, it's only PCB that is acting up like this.

My refresh rate is set to 60 hertz and I'm running the game in 98/ME compatibility, which seem to be the two more common issues. Windowed mode also doesn't help, it's where I took the screenshot. Also the game doesn't seem to have a "Force 60 FPS" option in the config, unfortunately.

I'm sorry to bug you guys with helping me fix my game, but I'm near my wit's end with trying to troubleshoot this.

>>9811835
Try vpatch

>>9811835
Download the vsync patch

>>9811835
I think it's that PCB is a bit of a mess programming wise. I had an install that never calculated frame rate right -- despite playing at 60fps -- and always buggered up my slow%.

>>9811841
>>9811842
Thanks, I'll give it a try.

>>9811835
NMNB 2000+fps Lunatic

Why can't I defeat Mamizou with Marisa or Sanae? I can only do it with Reimu and with flying colors, too. Anyone else had trouble with her with said shot types?

>>9811851
2ez

Someone, please stream!

>>>/vg/14568636

>>9812429

If you don't mind hearing some classical music while I play...

>>9812440

We've got our little club here.

>>9811861

you shouldn't have a problem with marisa, so you're probably just not used to using her but sanae does a lot less damage than anyone else from the bottom of the screen, which means you'll probably get one more wave of bullets on most spellcards.

>>9812429

There you have it.

ca.twitch.tv/oskarvanbruce

>>9812440
That thread is funny. A bunch of filthy casuals on /vg/ think they know STGs.

>>9812440
What the hell? Tripfags and avatarfags everywhere! Now, I don't have anything against those guys, Riz and Exxel and whatnot are cool, but that place feels like a major circlejerk.

Fuck yeah, finally beat UFO normal 1cc, only SA left now.

>>9813692
>/jp/

>>9811280
Back with some MoF!

>>9813692
Better than a bunch of secondaries.

Oh god UFO Hard is so scary. I either have to bomb everything or die to it. I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere like this.

My computer is a wonderful POS. Massive slow down on the last levels of Mystic Square under Next. Might try it under Anex86.

Any streams?

>>9816267
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=14810
I know how you feel. I was in the same position as you. Just keep practicing.
>>9817470
I'll be busy for the next two days, but I'll have lots of free time to stream after that. I'll probably be doing SanaeB LNBNV and showing off my progress. I will hopefully be able to do it without distractions this time.

Nobody argues with me or attempts to troll me any more. I'm starting to feel left out. ;~;

>>9818064
That's because this place is full of love <3

>>9818072
Fuck you.

Who is the best non-Japanese STG player?

>>9818086
Me.

>>9818086
WC is the best I've seen.

1.5b in DOJ
2.2b in DOJBL
845b in DFK 1.5 Power (with Type A!)
716m in Galuda 2
460m in Futari 1.5 Original
690m in Futari 1.5 Maniac
2.5b in Futari BL Original
1.5b in Futari BL Maniac
5.5b in Futari BL God
435m in Ketsui
+ more

I think he got the GP counterstop in Saidaioujou's Expert mode as well, but I might be mixing him up with someone else. Either way he's a beast.

>>9813692
Just like us.

>>9816267
Practice makes perfect ^_^

I cleared it within five days with prior STG practice. It isn't so scary once you get the hang of it, the only UFO related thing that gives me the shakes is when I make it to Lunatic Byakuren with a score higher than 1B, now that gives me a heart attack.

>>9818545
A few pinpoints for future, to make you a better liar and such.

First of all, Byakuren gives very little amount of points. The only thing you lose from failure is the right to upload it to Royalflare.
Second, you should look up some highscores before claiming out stuff. 1B can be reached with almost entirely survival playing and a few larger UFO's later on.

Someone, please stream ;___;

>>9818750
Yeah, you're right, Naut. He's just some retarded scrub who doesn't know shit about the game. I often ponder the meaning of life, but I more often ponder why /jp/ is so shitty at these games, and then goes on to talk like they actually know about them.

Just ignore them. I bet he also thinks scores like 800M is good in an average DOJ run. Pathetic.

>>9818800
I'm not Naut.

>>9818800
Naut wouldn't reply to himself. :V

>>9818816
>>9818818
:V oh shit, I'm sorry.

Who else would have extensive knowledge of UFO though? Surely .asp wouldn't post on /jp/, he's too good for that. And Riz always posts with a trip, so it can't be him.

After two months I finally beat Marisa on IN normal mode without using a continue, I was happy with that and then I somehow beat Reisen too. She's way easier than Marisa. Now it's time to practice for months to beat Kaguya.

>>9818841
>extensive knowledge
Scoring 101

>>9818841
By suffering comes wisdom, they say.

I'm a nobody.

>>9818545
>>9818750
>>9818800

OMG... Drama fest even in JayPee?

>>9818841
Nothing in that post is what I would call "extensive knowledge".

>>9818841
Please stop needlessly name-dropping.

Still nobody streaming?

>>9814488
hehe, just did some lunatic training for SA 1cc on normal and decided to try MoF normal for shits and giggles and managed to complete the game with 5 extra lives and capturing almost every card including illusionary dominance and mountain of faith.
Why is SA so hard? ;_;

Damn it

Anyone on /jp/ planning on streaming some touhou?

Fuck yeah.

>>9820337

>Player Penalty

>>9820346
Still a 1cc, congrats anon.

>>9820337

If you're more aggressive about collecting point items, you can easily get enough extra lives to make that player penalty unnecessary! And you'll even bump that score up a few hundred million points. Shoot for the stars dogg! You can do it!

>>9820430

It's technically clearing with one credit, yes, but truly getting a 1cc means beating the game with default settings. 1cc bragging rights are for getting beyond a certain threshold of difficulty, and that doesn't really work when you start off with enough extra lives to essentially have a continue.

>>9820337

>>9820430
>>9820443
Thanks! I suck at these kind of games, so beating this was a good feeling.

>>9820430

Yesssss I am so excited to have this stupid debate again
a) A 1cc is an achievement because you limit your resources. If you increase the number of resources you have available outside of the actual game, that kinda defeats the purpose. It's also logically equivalent to using a continue, since either way you're adding extra lives to get the clear.
b) Even if you insist it's technically a 1cc because it was done with one credit, it isn't at all equal to a 1cc done with default lives. Since basically every other player uses default lives, what's the point of claiming a 1cc? It doesn't compare.

It's still an accomplishment, don't get me wrong. If its a first then he should be proud. Just don't call it something it isn't, that's not cool.

>>9820430
btw SA hard than UFO

>>9820346

> autism

>>9819930
I feel you.

>>9820430
It isn't tho.

>>9820475
>A 1cc is an achievement because you limit your resources
What? Let's not change the definition of a "1-credit clear" now.

>every other player uses default lives
Not true.

>Even if you insist it's technically a 1cc because it was done with one credit, it isn't at all equal to a 1cc done with default lives.
So it still is a 1cc. Thanks.

It's an achievement, but not much of one anyway when considering objective skill. It's not like you should care for a 1cc when talking skill since score is the objective measurement of skill in most of these game. Using extra lives penalizes your score, so you get what you deserve.

>>9821217

>I have to have make myself feel better because mommy said I can do anything if I try

>>9821364
ur mummy said i cud do anything if i try

i did her cunt with me dick

>>9821364
lol u win i guess xD

>>9821217
the only person to insult the man for his clear is one defending that it's a 1cc

bravo.

>>9822057
Thank you. I'm just telling the reality of the situation, unlike >>9820475 who seems to think that a 1cc is some end-all-be-all sign of skill and holy badge of achievement that is in jeopardy of being tainted by casuals that defile the glorious name of a 1cc by not using default starting lives.

>>9822112

I'm just saying a 1cc with default lives isn't the same as a 1cc with extra lives added. The latter is a 2cc. I don't really care what one or two people claim is legitimate but I figured I could just head the whole thing off at the pass if I worded the argument reasonably. Apparently not though~

bump

did somebody use the 30 fps + save states argument yet

87% SLOWDOWN? STILL A 1CC. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT FRAME RATE IN "ONE CREDIT CLEAR" DO YOU?

>>9822338
>>9822358
Now now, let's not act retarded, children. It's not cute. Using external programs is cheating.

If you didn't put any coins into a machine it's not a credit

>>9822395
vpatch is cheating.

Having a slow computer isn't.

You heard it here first.

>>9822407
And here I was hoping you were only acting retarded.

>>9822112
>unlike >>9820475 who seems to think that a 1cc is some end-all-be-all sign of skill and holy badge of achievement that is in jeopardy of being tainted by casuals that defile the glorious name of a 1cc by not using default starting lives
Er no, he was just correcting you. How did you get that pile of crap out of a correction on what claiming a "1cc" means. He wasn't even correcting the guy who cleared the game, it was >>9820430. What sort of strawman is this.

1cc arguments are my favorite.

Wow, #pofv defense force in full swing tonight.

>>9822437
Almost as good as "playing for score sucks" arguments.

Please stream, /jp/

>>9822535
I promise to start streaming regularly once I improve. Just give me 2 more years. I promise.

>>9822535

I gave it a shot but my game lagged too much while I was testing it out. Maybe when I get a better computer.

>>9822535

Name a game and I'll consider it.

>>9822609
PCB Sakuya-B Extra

>>9822630

no #pofvs allowed~

>>9822634
How about PCB lunatic, ReimuA? Or if you're not on lunatic level, normal?

>>9822658

OK. I'm pretty out of practice but I'll try.
http://twitch.tv/vgamet

I'll start the stream in a few minutes. Feel free to stop in and say hello.

So, /jp/, how do you play STGs? Relentlessly grind stages until you can do them in your sleep? Or would you rather play full runs, slowly chipping away at the game until you can get that high score?

I'm curious to see how other people play these games for whatever reason.

>>9823365
Grind practice mode, watch replays and do full runs.

Any streams?

>>9823365
Bash your head against the hardest available challenge until either you succeed or your lose consciousness.

>>9823374

http://www.livestream.com/andradiffxi

I will bang my head against EoSD for a while. Haven't had a good game since the last stream. (Please tell me if it's not actually broadcasting!)

>>9823365

>play full runs, slowly chipping away at the game until you can get that high score.

Some measure of planning is needed but this.

BTW, any streams?

>>9823365
I ram my head into the wall until I break through.

>>9823365
Mostly full runs I watch replays too.
Savestate practice I find really boring and end up getting demotivated from playing, full stage practice isn't as bad but I don't really use it.

>>9823365
play training mode until I get sick of the game
play a few credits
get 80% of my maximum possible score in a shit run
play something else
repeat

>>9823365
I typically prefer to do full runs over stage practice when first clearing a game.
>>9823374
I'll do one tomorrow.

>>9823365
Grind in frustration. It's not fun, but it's not supposed to be. If you're lucky, you'll improve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfgeyA6UTDk

Great, more retards being exposed to 2hu.

>>9812440
disgusting

>>9823980
Uh oh, hopefully all the mainstream LPer trash don't try playing Touhou.

>>9823365
Training for 2-3 hours then 1 full run. Fail full run = back to training.

>>9823455

Sometimes if you bash you head long enough that wall just might fall. 2 different 1ccs and some true SA/UFO kusoplay. Thanks everyone.

>>9823980
Touhou is already known by millions of retards, it's practically mainstream.

Fuck stage 5.

>>9824907
But Orin is such a cute cat.

>>9825186
Her god damn stage is more frustrating than herself.

>>9825194
Besides the midboss fight, it's not that hard.

>>9825305
What the hell? Everything other than the midboss fight is hard.

>>9825331
What, cat walk not being considered hard?
Orin's fight not being considered easy?

>>9825337
I drop my shit all over the stage portion before and after midboss fight. On the other hand, I can almost consistently clear the midboss fight without dying a couple thousand times. Can't speak for the actual boss fight since I have never gotten that far.

>>9825337
Orin is the reason I decided to stop trying to 1cc SA for now and do something more fun like clearing extra stages.

>>9825368
Oh, come on. Just copy a superplay of Stage 5, it really isn't all that bad. Most of SA can be done with copying superplays, learning it by yourself is pure Hell.

I know a few people who were struggling with SA until they shamelessly copied superplays.

>>9825531
Why are you even playing the game?

>>9825537
It's fun pwning them 2hus.

No, in all seriousness, I prefer to watch superplays so I can begin scoring as quickly as possible. I'd rather not spend my first few hours playing the game devising a survival path when I could be making potential scoring paths instead.

>>9825531
Or you can just have practice from 1ccing other touhou games and extra stages. After a few tries I beat it without any guides or copying.

>>9825572
>video game
>only interested in making numbers go up

>>9825617
STGs would have no replay value otherwise.

>>9825531
>Just copy a superplay of Stage 5, it really isn't all that bad.
It's been years and I still don't understand how this works. What kind of talented savant do you have to be to just look at a superplay and be able to mimic it after a few attempts? That's beyond ridiculous; those superplayers spend years practicing their skills to be able to pull off the kind of stuff that they do and you're saying that one could just look at it and quickly do the same? No way, that doesn't work unless the people copying it have thousands of hours of experience as well. I know /jp/ has a lot of 'T'alented savants, but saying that those few people just instantly somehow managed to "copy" superplayers and omit any problems whatsoever as if anyone can do the same is unreasonable. If this method worked, world records would be increasing every day; ASL wouldn't look like a bot playing IN. I would give both my legs to have that kind of ability to easily copy superplays.

I don't mean to come off as bitching, although I sure am orz.

Wow, I made it to LFS on LNBNUFO and I died like a total retard. Two bullets coming literally straight at me and I keep moving down to the bottom of the screen and die, rofl.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=24332

>>9825579
Let's see you beat Lunatic in your first few tries without copying superplays, or better yet, chaining full stages without the help of a superplay.

>>9825798
It's mostly natural talent, but if you have previous STG experience, you can copy superplays and clear shit on your first try.

>>9826114
>Let's see you beat Lunatic in your first few tries without copying superplays
>If I can't do it, no one can!
Truth hurts, donut.

>>9826114
>if you have previous STG experience, you can copy superplays and clear shit on your first try.

What the hell? If you're trying to 1cc a game for the first time, you sure as fuck aren't going to copy anything you see in high scoring replays.

>>9826235
What are you expecting? This is /jp/, nobody here except for previous #PoFV players can compete.

Stay free, /jp/.

mfw jp is still bad at these games

>>9826268
Ironically, the only people that are posting here and arguing are from #pofv.

>>9826288
I don't see any :V spam, so that's obvious bullshit.

>>9826303
Look harder, toddler.

>>9826310
'~' why are you even bothering with these /jp/ scrubs? 4ch people are funny, and this thread is boring.

and now watch as all of these faggots get butthurt over mizuumi... w

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>>9826330
you want ppirc, not rizon

ITT people from #pofv pretend to be people not from #pofv pretending to be people from #pofv because they think it's funny when people hate them for no reason.

Let's trying to keep the next thread about bullets!

>>9823980
I like that video. I'd like to see more of this type of LP. I have actually tried in the past to get some popular LPers to play Touhou, but most have either ignored or rejected me. Maybe I'm asking the wrong people.
>>9824265
>practically mainstream.
Touhou is far from mainstream. You would be hard-pressed to find someone that doesn't know about CoD or WoW. Those games are mainstream.
>>9825348
Orin can be easy if you practice her enough.
>>9825798
I don't think that Anon meant "perfectly mimic". Although I do recommend watching high-level replays while first clearing, I never recommend copying them exactly, because it will be too hard and not everything there will be beneficial to survival.
>>9825955
You will get it soon.
>oh my god please look at the replay
I will.
>>9826114
It's perfectly possible to clear a Touhou game within a handful of tries if you are experienced enough, even without the help of replays.
>>9826381
>Let's trying to keep the next thread about bullets!
I agree, but sadly, this rarely happens. How do you propose we fix it?