/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Statistically speaking men 16 to 34 are more prone to depression, anxiety and suicide because they don't have everything handed to them like women.

I think probably 100% of people here have contemplated suicide. It's normal to do it from time to time.

Feel thread?
Feel thread.

I contemplate it daily, depression is fun.

I tried choking myself to death, but that was because of my french oral exam. I have contemplated suicide innumerable times, all as to avoid school-related activities. Now that I'm NEETotaku, I'm the happiest man on earth.

>>9779112
Please no bully.

Nah, I'm extremely happy with my life and almost always happy. I'm even happy when I'm angry and arguing with retards on the internet.

Why the fuck are none of you happy?

>>9779119
What a normal!

i drank a bottle of shampoo when i was 13 and my girlfriend broke up with me. luckily it didn't kill me. haven't seriously thought about suicide since.

>>9779121
it was 14 years ago and i haven't talked to a girl my age since, dweeb.

>>9779106
>It's normal
You son of a bitch.

I bet you're the type of person to tell kids that Santa Clause isn't real.

>>9779140
dude, i was 13. it was the hardest substance i had access to while crying in my room.

>>9779119
...shampoo? why shampoo? Doesn't seem like you were very serious at all (whether that's a good thing is up to you). Products that you regularly use on your body are much less likely to be lethal given the regulations and testing they go through than drano (very painful death) or something. Just common sense.

>>9779135
>I bet you're the type of person to tell kids that Santa Clause isn't real.

I hate people like you who can't enjoy their casual fun.

>>9779147
this was in a time where every 13 year old wasn't smoking crack and giving out rimjobs.

>>9779141
This was SUPPOSED to be a /jp/ Feels thread until you came and ruined it with your lies.

We're not normal. We're ABORMAL. What is so normal about being stressed about life??!!?!!!?!?!?! Or wanting a gf even though you don't have one?!?!?!?!?!?!

>>9779119
damn that bitch hurt you deep son

Shampoo is a scam.


http://www.livescience.com/3659-great-shampoo-sham.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102062969
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30337386

>>9779155
it was tar shampoo too. I was breathing out bubbles for hours.

>>9779147
Whatever. Good you're still kicking although I'm surprised your house doesn't have any cleaning agents or even antifreeze around. No hoe's worth that though.

I think about suicide almost every day. I walk past a pawn shop on the way to university and it has a big neon sign that says "GUNS" and I think how easy it would be to just buy one and get it over with.

Feels.

I tried hanging myself in a psychiatric ward. Felt the shittiest I've ever felt in my life after a meeting with the psychiatrist there who basically emotionally fucked me over then left me out to dry.

I stupidly didn't realise that the rail in the wardrobe was fixed on magnetically. The psychiatrist got fired a year later after an alcoholic he had just seen successfully committed suicide.

I tried a few times when I was younger but nothing serious. I think about it every day, I wouldn't go through with it though because a bunch of people in my family have killed themselves and my mother is in tears every time the word is mentioned.

Lately I've been getting sexually aroused when thinking about committing suicide. What is wrong with me?

I haven't felt the need to commit suicide since I was an emo fag in high school. The chances of being born at all let alone being born as a human capable of rational thought are too slim for me to devalue my life to the point of wanting to end it. Might as well enjoy it.

>>9779077
She isn't particularly pretty, but for some reason I find this girl attractive. Maybe it's the hair style, may be it's the cheerful smile.

helium tank - check
tubing - check
large plastic bag - check
rubber bands - check

i've been contemplating suicide for a while now and the necessary materials for a painless death have been prepared nearby. my biggest fear is fucking up the process and ending up even worse than before as some conscious cripple.

NOOOI Never!

>>9779299

The chances of getting Primary Amebic Meningoencephalitis are pretty rare too. Would you be happy to get it?

>>9779314
If you do it make sure you tell the online friends first you're close to. I hate to wait 4 fucking months to find out about my friend taking the helium bag exit.

Or you know don't fucking do it.

>>9779077
I'm 15, dood.
btw nice dubs
btw I'm a girl

>>9779325
You aren't happy to be alive? Sure you might contract some horrific disease, and I could understand wanting to die at that point because nobody wants to live in pain, but as long as that doesn't happen why not enjoy life and be happy?

>>9779349

Because life is largely suffering. All solutions to suffering are fleeting, while suffering is a default state. Hunger (default) must be maintained with food (fleeting). Thirst (default) must be maintained with water (fleeting). All of life is structured in this fundamental way, where happiness takes effort and will flee, while suffering will always return no matter what.

I don't want to die, I just wish I were never born.

>>9779272
Got any Marisa feels?

>>9779349
Do you know what it is like to wake up every morning and feel significant emotional distress the moment you become aware that you didn't die in you sleep?

>>9779364
No, maybe I'll make one. I'd really like to have a feel for all the main 2hus.

>>9779377
Please do, I like your style.

>>9779362
>Because life is largely suffering.
We have different ways of viewing life, I suppose. I find the majority of my pleasure comes without a stint of effort in the form of small, everyday things. If you can't learn to enjoy your only chance to be alive then you might as well be dead.

>>9779376
Sounds like you need a bit of confidence in yourself.

Why is it that some people embrace this life naturally or adapt to it very quickly and come to an almost zen-like attitude towards life, but others don't come to this same conclusion and they remain in depression for a very long time?

Why such radically different outcomes?

>>9779391
I don't think many people have a zen like life. It's more of a ignorance is bliss escapism sort of deal.

>>9779396
Or maybe they're strong enough to accept that all of our lives are without meaning without getting all depressed about it.

>>9779404
What if they find a meaning?

>>9779390

>We have different ways of viewing life, I suppose. I find the majority of my pleasure comes without a stint of effort in the form of small, everyday things. If you can't learn to enjoy your only chance to be alive then you might as well be dead.

You're privileged and/or delusional. I hope you get hit by a bus.

Doesn't everyone contemplate suicide?

>>9779407

Not him, but I just love my life and love being alive.

I probably have less money and "privileges" than you. Go suck a dick and kill yourself if you hate life that badly, to me it's funner than being dead.

>>9779275

If you're willing to talk about it, what happened in the exchange?

>>9779405
pic related

>>9779407
>privileged and/or delusional
So I must be privileged or delusional to enjoy my life? That's silly.

>>9779413
>Go suck a dick and kill yourself if you hate life that badly
If I could do the former I wouldn't need to do the latter because life wouldn't be so bad.

>>9779408

Everyone atleast thinks of it. What I don't like, is how psychiatrists ask you whether or not you've thought of suicide and what they decide based off your answer.

Well, ya, no shit. To even learn what the word suicide means you have to think about it, the psychiatrist had to think about suicide just to ask that question, you had to think about suicide if it was ever brought up in a piece of media, and fuck him anyway, because there's nothing abnormal about contemplating suicide atleast on some level in your life. There's something wrong with anyone who hasn't.


It's just another one of those things they turned into a "disease", only this one WILL get you locked up against your will for even saying it.

>>9779413

>I probably have less money and "privileges" than you.

Do you know what EBT stands for, without googling it?

Have you ever had a house foreclosed on? What about two?

Have you ever slept in a public place?

Have you ever ridden a bus all the way down the line just to get out of the heat?

>>9779420
I like how that image presents concrete arguments.

>>9779420

>there are no morals

So can I kill you?

>>9779426
They only lock you up if they think you're going to commit suicide. If you mention that you've idly considered it or used to be suicidal but are currently not, you should be okay. Although it is taking a risk.

>>9779443
You certainly can.

>>9779391

I think that the problem is that humans above all else humans need passion and a purpose in life. Pure hedonism alone never seems to completely satisfy most people.

Many people here are in a state of stagnation though and that doesn't bring happiness. You can try to occupy yourself with all sorts of entertainment, but if you don't have a passion for something then you will always feel a little empty. Most people walk down similar roads, their purpose in life is often the pursuit of their careers, but most of us aren't like that, we have disembarked from the commonly walked paths in life, and we're ostracized because of it. That doesn't mean we have to sit here and stagnate either though. You just have to find something that you are passionate about and then dedicate your life to it.

Personally I discovered that my passion in life was the exploration of my mind. Lucid dreaming, meditation, substance which alter your perception of reality, attempting to induce hallucinations through willpower and visualization, anything that allows me to explore the different states of consciousness that the mind can enter. This is my purpose or passion in life and now that I have a purpose that I care about I never feel depressed, not even when things are bad, because I'm living for something more important to me than just hedonistic pleasure.

Oddly enough the thing that keeps me from killing myself is how angry I am with other people. I can't satisfy them by ending my own life, at least not without punishing them somehow first.

If I was happier I'd probably be more able to go through with it.

>>9779436
That image is correct. There is no set meaning to life, so we create our own.

>>9779443
Morals are indeed man-made. Animals kill animals all the time, and we are animals as well. You can try to kill me if you want, but I won't go without a fight.

>>9779447
Wrong, I can't. I would be put in jail. Thus there are morals and limits.

>>9779447

Okay.

>>9779456

How much fight you think you're going to put up when someone pops your skull open from behind?

>>9779432

>EBT

I didn't know what it stood for off the top of my head, but I knew (past tense) what they are, tons of people have them.

>Have you ever had a house foreclosed on? What about two?

No.

>Have you ever slept in a public place?

Yes.

>Have you ever ridden a bus all the way down the line just to get out of the heat?

The summers don't get that hot here. Me and my mom/brother had to sleep and basically live right in front of a gas oven for a few a week once, because no electricity = no heat.

I never said my life was bad, but feel free to continue the "who had it harder" debate.

>>9779462

What debate? You're privileged as fuck.

>>9779458
>I would be put in jail.
You act like nobody's ever gotten away with murder.

If God exists then there can be true meaning to life. Prove he doesn't exist before you go making pretentious atheist infographics that pretend to be absolute truth.

>>9779462
by heat, I think he was referring to trouble in the neighborhood, not extreme weather.

>>9779461
>How much fight you think you're going to put up when someone pops your skull open from behind?
They could, and I would die, that would be the end of it. But at least I will have enjoyed myself while I lived.

>>9779468
Truly he is privileged to live in a cold place instead of a hot one.

>>9779468

What grounds do you make that claim on?

You're privileged and whiny as fuck. Sseriously, that's the complaints you brought up? I thought they would atleast be more serious ones.

You have fucking nothing to complain about compared to many people.

>>9779466
Nobody can possibly prove that any number of deities exist or not.

>>9779473
please refer to my previous post located at
>>9779472

>>9779471

Would you advocate 'happy pills' for the entire populace? What about forcibly numbing everyone into a permanent sleep? They would at least enjoy themselves, right?

>>9779414
It was my first and only meeting with the guy. He basically sat me down and started out all friendly. After getting me to relax. Then slowly at first he starts picking little things about me and what I was there for apart. I don't remember too much of the specifics but I just remember him basically destroying my entire sense of self and leaving me wrecked.

I don't know what he thought he was trying to do. Just to qualify the case, I'd seen other psychiatrists and they were nothing like him, the fact he was fired indicates that it wasn't just me he pulled this kind of shit with and that it certainly wasn't what the service was trying to do.

>>9779475

I'm saying people who are privileged and wealthy, like you, have no right to claim life is a happy-go-lucky paradise.

>>9779479
>Would you advocate 'happy pills' for the entire populace? What about forcibly numbing everyone into a permanent sleep?
You don't need to be intoxicated or asleep to be happy.

>>9779483
You're also privileged and wealthy. Stop whining.

>>9779485

No, but they would bring that about. And since there are no morals there's nothing wrong with forcing it on people.

Hell, wouldn't it be okay just to murder every single person? That would eliminate suffering entirely!

>>9779490
>Hell, wouldn't it be okay just to murder every single person?
You go and get started on your grand campaign. Tell us how it goes.

>>9779487

What makes you think I'm privileged or wealthy?

>>9779472

Oh, well, I didn't expect that.

I'm a white guy and my town is literally over 70% Hispanics and blacks, mainly Hispanics though. I've been beaten up a couple times. But I never made the CHOICE to get involved with anything stupid enough to warrant leaving town or something to avoid people.

>>9779483

Where do you get off making the claim that I'm wealthy? I admit I'm "privileged", but most likely not anymore so than you. Atleast, you haven't given me any complaints to make me believe so.

>>9779492

You didn't answer my question. Would you object to the murder of every single human being?

Would you perhaps tell them that they should enjoy the little things in life while waiting for their turn?

>>9779493
You live in the United States and presumably have access to food, housing, and electricity.

>>9779494
>Where do you get off making the claim that I'm wealthy?

1. You've never had to get benefits
2. You've never lost a house
3. You have had shelter most of your life

>>9779497
>Would you object to the murder of every single human being?
I personally would.

>Would you perhaps tell them that they should enjoy the little things in life while waiting for their turn?
If there was nothing they could do about it, maybe. Although they would probably have better things to do than listen to platitudes.

>>9779466

>If God exists then there can be true meaning to life.

Are you talking about the Christian/Jewish/Islamic God? If so, he doesn't really give you any meaning in life that anyone would actually want. The idea is that you're a servant of god and that's not exactly a fun thought.

We're servants on earth and then servants in heaven. An entire existence based around servitude to a deity. The only incentive offered is more of a threat. Do what God wants or something bad will happen to you.

It's like a slave driver whipping you so you will keep running. I guess the meaning that he gives your life is that if you keep running then you won't get hit again. If God is real then I'm fucking scared because he is not a nice guy.

I'm too much of a pussy to stab myself and bleed out, or drink something poisonous, or jump off my balcony.
I just hope destiny catches up with me or something.

>>9779498

>food

Well, people do throw away a lot of it.

>housing

Guess again.

>electricity

Well, the library has it, yeah.

>>9779504

How can you object to murder when there are no such thing as morals?

What the hell /jp/? This was a fun discussion about death and now it is about philosophy and quasi-politics. I cannot take it easy like this.

I tried the detergent method, but I bitched out and ended up outside of the car when I passed out...

Death is scary, but so is life.

>>9779510
Congratulations on becoming homeless, then. You seem very proud of it.

I've fantasized about dying and different ways I could die my whole life. Just like when I fantasize about doing lewd things with girls in public I fantasize about ways things in rooms could kill me. I occasionally despair but mostly it's just this weird lust for death.

I took a class on suicide when I tried being a psych major and apparently 1/4 of people contemplate suicide so I'm sure it is relatively normal. It's just one of those taboo things like sexual attraction to children that you feel inside and think about a lot but would never talk about to anyone outside the internet because of the scorn and concern that would cross people's faces. I don't like to cause a ruckus so I keep such things to myself, but I just consider it to be one of life's little burdens I gotta carry around. Everyone has some little problems but they get through life just fine, I don't see why I can't either.

>>9779513
I just did.

>>9779533
That doesn't follow.

>>9779527

Then there are morals.

>/jp/

>>9779506

>Never had to get benefits

True, I never HAD to get benefits, and neither did you. My family has had supplemental income though.

>You've never lost a house

No but that doesn't mean I'm wealthy. (I've lived in the same tiny fucking 2 bedroom house my entire life, there have been 4 people living here for several years. Do you know where my senile grandmom sleeps? The front room of the house, and I just sleep/live in the living room on the couch.)

>You have had shelter most of your life

Ya, and I'm sure you've had shelter for the majority of your life too. Where exactly are you posting on 4chan from?

>>9779510

Wahhhh.

Just kill yourself already if it's that bad.

>>9779537

If you make a moral statement, then that presupposes the existence of morals.

Objecting to murder is a moral statement.

How can you guys feel suicidal?

I've never thought of suicide because I know that no matter how bad my life gets that I can always take refuge in joining a monastery. My mother could die, I could be out on the streets without a penny, but if I can make it to a Buddhist monastery then I can live as a monk for the rest of my life. They will teach me, take care of me, and all I have to do is help them clean and make food.

>>9779513
Woah, I just read your pointless discussion, and you're stupid dude.
I mean, you sound like an angsty teenager who wants to do some sort of philosophical debate with people on the internet but hasn't figured out the basics yet.
No offense.

>>9779554

>True, I never HAD to get benefits, and neither did you.

Yeah, I guess we could have chosen to starve or eat trash.

>No but that doesn't mean I'm wealthy.

Yeah, it does.

>Ya, and I'm sure you've had shelter for the majority of your life too. Where exactly are you posting on 4chan from?

Public library.

>Just kill yourself already if it's that bad.

I plan to, but that's neither here nor there.

Yeah, I think about that, a lot. Before, that thought was scary and gave me a lot of troubles. It made me sad all day, you know, the dwell of misery. Now is more like a rational thought, without the sad feeling. "I have no reason to stay alive, and it's kind of a bother, so I might as well end this problem, permanently".

The reason I haven't done that already is that I still have the conditions of a privileged life. I still have "hope", although I don't see it. The moment this ends, my life ends as well.

Daily reminder: I love you guys, I would even suck your cock.

>>9779513
As the guy who originally posted that image, I don't completely agree with what it says about morals, but otherwise it is correct. Morals do exist (only as man-made ideas) as a means to help stabilize our society, because we seek to advance our species. This is the meaning we have created for ourselves in a world of meaninglessness. Again, if you cannot find happiness in this life then you might as well be dead.

>>9779559

Um, no. They won't just take anyone. Especially if you're not asian.

>>9779562

That's pretty meaningless. Point out the problems. Otherwise I can just say "No, you're stupid" and we can keep going until someone gets bored.

>>9779565

How about you prove it then, give me your IP address and I'll see if you're actually posting from a lbirary.

>>9779559
I read that dying causes the reward pathway of the brain to activate many times stronger than during an orgasm.

It isn't a good reason, and it requires some additional research, but it is a reason.

>>9779575

>Especially if you're not asian.

Buddhists aren't racist though.

>>9779585

Yeah they are.

Clearly you should read more on semantics.
All of you.

It's like watching a bunch of cripples fighting in a gladiator arena. You guys don't meet half the requirement of such discussion.

>>9779587

Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to everyone without even entering the discussion.

why are you fags suicidal you have been given everything on a silver platter. none of you have gone through anything so why the depression?

>>9779586

Why do you think this? I've never seen anything to suggest Buddhists care about race at all. I've seen people of every color that have become monks.

I have but more out of curiosity and boredom than depression. I've always wondered if anything neat happens after you die and many times I've considered finding out because I was bored. Surely it's more exciting than living here and even if it turns out that there is nothing there I wouldn't exist to be disappointed so I can't lose!

Closest I've ever been was holding a knife to my neck but I figured that it's easy to fuck up slitting your own throat and it's probably very uncomfortable so I didn't. I shudder to think how many times I would have died by now if I owned a gun.

I prefer to stay inside and NEET it up, I honestly enjoy it.
but I'm still lonely and depressed ( don't think im depressed about being lonely though since I was depressed when I had friends)
actually if I had delusions or if my waifu could speak I'd probably wouldn't even be lonely
where the fuck do i go? someone tell me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_hedonism
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>>9779610
Well that explains why I'm so damn happy most of the time.