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9776415 No.9776415[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>Althoght he must be lonely, maybe he fears a woman
>no, he fears communication with people

how true is this

You sit around looking at 2D girls and call real girls 3DPD becasue you try to hide your fear of communication with real people.

>> No.9776429

or i know it'll end in nothing, friends are fleeting and relying on other people to make you happy is emotional suicide.

>> No.9776435
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Actually, I am just not good with the average fold. None of their tastes interest me, as all they know is either sports and gossip, and neither can they understand my tastes, nor can they keep up a conversation with me. I am usually told "wow, you know so much anon!", but it only makes me depressed, because no one I know ever reads anything.

What a bore normal humans are. You are the only ones I can talk with, /jp/.

>> No.9776436

>>9776429
>friends are fleeting and relying on other people to make you happy is emotional suicide.
This. Humans are unreliable pieces of shit.
All my attempts to communicate always end in a disaster or embarrassment.
Or even worse, I get bored and then feel really bad about doing to people the same thing others did to me.

>> No.9776442

>>9776436
>This. Humans are unreliable pieces of shit.
>All my attempts to communicate always end in a disaster or embarrassment.
>Or even worse, I get bored and then feel really bad about doing to people the same thing others did to me.
So, how do you ease your loneliness?

>> No.9776444

>>9776442
i'm sorry, i don't think you're understanding because you haven't wrapped your head around the part where you shouldn't rely on other people.

>> No.9776446
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>>9776442
I don't.

Portaling within this decade, for real.

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>>9776442
The same way we all do: Distract yourself from the crushing despair via hobbies and constant entertainment.

Why do you think shitposting is so common? It is desperate anons seeking release.

>> No.9776448

I have no problems talking to girls or women, I just don't. I have kept up talking to some of them for nontrivial and sometimes even extended periods of time, but eventually the communication dies.

>> No.9776450
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>>9776442
>loneliness

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>>9776442
To be honest I haven't felt lonely in a long time! Because.. I am here with you guys so why would I be y'know? Sometimes my mom asks me how my day is and it's nice to talk to her but I prefer to be in my room.

>> No.9776456

I am scared of women because it seems like they have some intelligence and can make fun of you and read your thoughts. They are like men who can do this too, but they can then use sex against you and make you feel bad because they are making fun of you instead of mating with you. It's very scary... it makes me insecure.

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>> No.9776464

>>9776455
Can I cum on your face?

>> No.9776468

>>9776455
mediator, you return!

I went to bully rehab, and now I only sometimes feel the urge.

>> No.9776473

>>9776455
Reported, hope you banned again.

>> No.9776474

>>9776415
What's with all the /r9k/ shit suddenly invading /jp/? Just yesterday there was a thread about drugs that went in a way I wouldn't expect to go in /jp/.

>> No.9776476

>>9776436
I don't talk to guys for all of those reasons. I'm a girl by the way.

>> No.9776477
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>>9776473

>> No.9776479

>>9776474
They assume we're kindred spirits I guess.

>>9776476
get out harlot

>> No.9776487

For a moment of horror I thought that I was on /a/

>> No.9776488

>>9776479
Maybe you should pretend to be one of us online to see how it is. Pretty much every guy talks to you - every guy - for an extended period will fall in love with you and make decent communication awkward if not impossible, because they are all desperate and have no contact from the opposite sex aside from their mothers. This is probably going to sound offensive to some, but I'm sorry, it's true, and it's frustrating. Just because I am talking to a guy does not mean I want him hitting on me in a hamfisted, autistic and often clingy way.

>> No.9776489

>>9776488
You go girl! Wanna hook up sometime?

>>9776487
I take it you're even more horrified after realizing you're on the right board.

>> No.9776495

>>9776489
I know you're joking but that's pretty much how it is.

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>>9776473
>>9776468
When you need me but do not want me, then I must stay. When you want me but no longer need me, then I have to go.

>> No.9776503

>>9776498
I'll always need you.

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>>9776498
Why are you such a spaz?

>> No.9776506

>>9776488
>Pretty much every guy talks to you - every guy - for an extended period will fall in love with you and make decent communication awkward if not impossible, because they are all desperate and have no contact from the opposite sex aside from their mothers.
Predictable as fuck.

Also depressing.

>> No.9776512

>>9776488
>>9776488
Go make friends with gay men. Unless, of course, you like it when men pay attention to you.

>> No.9776517

Isn't it natural to fear doing things you're not good at in front of other people?

>> No.9776522

>>9776436
thats because you are communicating with the wrong people. their are good humans and bad humans saying all human are pieces of shit is an incorrect generalization

>> No.9776533

>>9776529
whats wrong with being human?

>> No.9776528

I actually get along with people and communicate with them, including women, just fine. I just think getting in a relationship with a 3D woman is retarded and takes far too much effort to make work, and the chances of her being "the one" are about as likely as your chances of winning the lottery. I used to have countless friends that were in a relationship with a woman they really loved, some for many years, only for it to end in separation, usually only because the girl got bored of them. I wouldn't be able to deal with that bullshit.

>> No.9776529

>>9776522
I'm communicating with good humans. They are still humans.
And sadly, I am also human.

>> No.9776538

>>9776533
Humans aren't robots and that's the big problem.

>> No.9776544

>>9776415
>You sit around looking at 2D girls and call real girls 3DPD becasue you try to hide your fear of communication with real people.
No, it's because I haven't met a 3D girl that wasn't a normalfag bitch.

>> No.9776547

>>9776538
because humans have free will and can judge you and robots have no free will and will like you for no apparent reason right?

>> No.9776548
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Do people think you are boring to talk to?‎

>> No.9776550

>>9776547
No, because robots are reliable and predictable and you know what they are thinking.

>> No.9776556

>>9776550
why do you need to know what people are thinking are you that self conscious. their are nice and cool people out there and there are assholes out there i would rather be friends with a human than a robot who has no choice but to like me

>> No.9776563

>>9776548
Most likely. Otherwise they would want to talk to me more. It's a shame since I am probably much more interesting to talk to online than in person, where I can never bring myself to say anything.

>> No.9776619

>>9776548
Yes. But the feeling is mutual.

>> No.9776628

>>9776488
Alternatively it could be because you're boring as shit that "decent communication" is awkward if not impossible.

>> No.9776651

>>9776548
I have learned one extremely powerful secret of social interaction: People don't like people who have lots of interesting things to say, they like people who will just shut up and listen so they can feel like they're interesting. Being talkative, which is usually treated like a virtue these days, is more of a hindrance than anything else. If you're usually quiet, the only thing you have to learn to make people like you is how to encourage them to talk and make them feel that what they're saying is being valued.

Of course, most people talk about really boring stuff, so it's not really worth it unless you have something to gain from making them like you.

>> No.9776658

>>9776488
Maybe because the ones who are not desperate will not talk to you for an extended period of time, since you probably has nothing to offer him in terms of exchanging experience that another guy does not have as well, with the advantage that a guy is generally not a whining demanding bitch.

>> No.9776662

>>9776651
Actually, people only don't want to hear what you have to say because they don't consider you important.

>> No.9776672

>>9776628
I support this theory. I've talked to a few females from 4chan, and every single one of them have been so dull to talk to that only the unreasonable male sex drive could motivate someone to talk to them.

Actually, there was one exception, one girl I genuinely enjoyed talking to as a friend, who gave me some hope that there are actually interesting females out there. But later she revealed to me that she was a guy.

>> No.9776704

>>9776662
No. People like talking. If you talk, they can't. Instead, if you're somewhat quiet, without hiding in a corner, you're gonna make "friends". It's not that you aren't supposed to talk to them - you need to, or they'll feel as though they're relaying their thoughts to an inanimate object. Just make sure you're only doing 30-40% of the talking, if you wish to befriend a normalfag. Not that I think it's worth doing - they're going to be dull as fuck.

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>> No.9776718

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYFmxgzPP3Q

This is a very hard video to sit through, because they are all so obnoxious, but if you endure, you will get a good idea of what a female 4chan poster is like.

>> No.9776731

>>9776704
so just become friends with nerds this isn't rocket science

>> No.9776733

>>9776662
You looking for a fight?

>> No.9776743

So inextricable was my puberty with my exposure to the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion, that to this day, the little “fwwp” sound effect that plays when the characters plugsuits contract gives me some sort of weird slothropian erection as a result. It’s possible for me to say with relative certainty that I spent more total time trying to picture Asuka’s titties while masturbating furiously in the shower than I did in conversation with any of my peers. If I recall shelf of anime vhs tapes at the local video adventure I am filled with the sort of wistful nostalgia that most people probably experience when they remember their first kiss.

>> No.9776750

I found a good technique for avoiding conversation while having one. I just keep people talking about themselves. That way I don't have to talk about me. I ask subtle guiding questions that let them do what they want, to talk about themselves. Then they think I'm a good listener and they like me. When they ask questions about me I give short vague answers and change the subject back to them. But I don't just fire questions at them like a weirdo. I just listen and ask natural questions and pretend to be interested. People think I'm social but I'm not. It's a mask to hide behind in public.

>> No.9776776

>>9776718
i cant get past 50 seconds of watching the video

>> No.9776809

My 2 best friends are female and I feel more comfortable talking to them than males. I think it is because I am emotional and want to talk about my feelings more and want to be understood emotionally.

I don't want to stick my dick in their dirty flesh though.

>> No.9776818

>>9776750
I do the same shit. I don't know how I would have gotten by without it.

>> No.9776825

>>9776750
I do exactly that as well, it's probably more common than you think.

>> No.9776830
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Women are really boring, but even so I used to talk to them because my sex drive compelled me to.

I'm so happy that I was finally able to talk my doctor into allowing me to be chemically castrated. Now I just get a shot once every three months and not only do I never have to masturbate but I never feel lonely and I do not give a shit about women.

Wonderful stuff.

>> No.9776836

>>9776488
Listen, the only reason genders mingle is to try to fuck. People are not interested in making friends with the opposite gender, no matter how hard they try to hide it.

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>>9776488
Someone should screencap this as proof.

>> No.9776838

I think it's actually easier to talk to people when you don't want to bang them because they are nasty and flawed.

>> No.9776840

>>9776415
Please analyze the hedgehog's dilemma for me OP.

>> No.9776843

>>9776840
3deep5you
Just stick to posting about how flat Rika's chest is and why she's not a slut.

>> No.9776844

>>9776830
Sounds great. I think I'll look into it. I hate how my sexual impulses make me into a fool.

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>>9776704
>>9776662
People never actually listen to you, they only wait for their turn to speak during a conversation. They are incredibly self-centered and not really worth talking to outside of the internet. Normals gotta keep up those appearances IRL, you know.

>> No.9776849

>>9776809
Yes you do. You can try to convince yourself that you don't.

>> No.9776852

>>9776845
How is this any different on the internet? I talk to people and quite often they don't even remember what I told them because all they were doing was skimming it while waiting for their turn to spam me with witticisms and details about their tedious life.

>> No.9776858

>>9776852
Talk to less shitty people then. Or stop browsing /v/.

>> No.9776859

>>9776849
You can project all you want, it doesn't change the way I feel.

>> No.9776862

No thank you. Even on 4chan most females only come in a couple of flavors.

1. Depressed attention-seeking landwhales who come here because they don't fit in with /soc/ and furiously respond to any and all misogynistic threads with posts that scream "btw i'm a girl" if not stating it outright.

2. Normals who's boyfriend showed them that hilarious Galo Sengen video so come and see what this community is all about.

>> No.9776867

For people who don't give a shit about women you guys sure like talking about them.

>> No.9776876

>>9776867
Are you a girl?

Please respond. I weigh 205 pounds, with 12% body fat.

>> No.9776877

>>9776862
Women just want a hard dicking from someone they find attractive and can dominate them effectively.

They may claim they want someone "interesting" but really, they only things they are attracted to are money/social status. They really aren't worth your time to interact with them, sadly.

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>>9776877
You didn't meet many adult girls ?
I mean girls older than 22+ with a job or high education.

Or just some guy who got dumped and now all women must be evil?

>> No.9776895

>>9776884
Look at this beta white knight faggot.

>> No.9776897

>>9776884
I hate girls who have high education and I don't want to associate with them. They should stop pretending to be men.

>> No.9776899

I've been practicing Buddhism for some time now and I've found that meditation is very effective in treating these issues of loneliness and yearning for romance/friendships that some of you have mentioned.

At this moment I have eliminated every source of friendship in my life and I feel completely content with being alone. The only thing left for me to leave is /jp/ and I've been coming here less and less so progress is moving along well on that front.

There's no need to be held captive by your emotions. You can fairly easily learn to be happy with being alone.

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I have genuine gynophobia you insensitive fuck.
You think I like this? You think I like being cock-blocked from 99.9% of porn?
Even then all women have horrible taste. If they like games, it's just pokemon. If they like anime, it's flavor of the week. None of them like programming and that's a fact. Even if they did I'm a hardcore Lisper. Go ahead, find me a Lisper NEET chick. I won't hold my breath.
And, even past all that, I don't give a shit. I genuinely enjoy being alone. Yes, I was forced into this, but I do enjoy it. I found I can think so many thoughts alone, when no one can distract me, it's glorious.
I am a literal manchild and possibly one of the purest forms of NEET out there. You watch your fucking mouth next time you try to pull this shit again.

>> No.9776910

women just want money. They can veil it all they like, saying "I'd like to live in a nice house with you", or "I'd really like a nice dress", or "I wish you'd take me out to places".

Each one of these really comes down to "buy an expensive house", "buy me expensive clothes", "pay for me to visit somewhere expensive". And they won't earn it themselves either, no. Why I'm single now? because they realised I don't have any money to spend on them.

>> No.9776913

>>9776867
We don't like talking about them, we like talking about us and our opinions because we are narcissists. Or at least I am. I'm just projecting.

>> No.9776917

So, help me here /jp/. there's a normalfag girl on my bus, and I'm sure she likes me. the problem isn't that I'm afraid to talk to her, but that I have no idea of what do after that, and also I already feel conditionated by this non-existant relationship(I already skipped the bus a couple times to avoid her)
what the fuck I have to do? just ignore her until she stops sitting near me?

>> No.9776922

>>9776876
>Please respond. I weigh 205 pounds, with 12% body fat.
I don't even know enough about fitness to know whether 12% means all fat or all muscle.

>>9776913
>We don't like talking about them, we like talking about us and our opinions because we are narcissists.
Figures.

>> No.9776924

>>9776911
You got something against pokemon?

Usually the people against it are against it because they see it as being exclusively for children, but you said yourself you're a manchild so you can't play that 8mature9you normalfag angle.

That reminds me, the only video game my sister ever seemed to want to play was pokemon. That and mario party. You might be on to something.

>> No.9776926

>>9776924
Did you fuck her?

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>>9776895
You calling me a white knight o.O?
What are you some autistic fat fuck on a depression trip?

>> No.9776932

>>9776929
Welcome back from hell, oh'demon overlord.

>> No.9776936

>>9776867
That's like saying "for people who claim to hate the holocaust, the jews sure love talking about it".

>> No.9776938

>>9776867

Yeah, this is annoying. So many good (or decent, at least) threads are derailed by idiots who just want to complain about women.
Why can't they take it easy? Why can't they discuss /jp/-related topics?
Because everything is always about women. How much they hate them. How much they lust after them. Disgusting.

Damn it, /jp/. If I wanted to talk about women I'd browse a different board.

>> No.9776946

>>9776938
What board, /an/?

>> No.9776944

>>9776936
But jews love the holocaust, because the sympathy it earns them allows them to forward their agenda. They don't hate it.

Likewise, he was implying that the people claiming to hate women are actually obsessed with them, thus why they can't stop talking about them.

>> No.9776945
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My thirst cannot be quenched by the people of this land. My desire can only truly be satisfied when I one day dwell in the Land of the Rising Sun.

I am filled with 大和魂 and only by returning to my spiritual homeland can I ever be happy. I may not be Japanese in blood or by birth, but my heart is and I've always known this.

I will remain strong until the day comes that I can return home. I will not defile my body by mingling with these Europeans, the Africans, none of them. I will remain alone until I can once again be with my people.

>> No.9776949

>>9776924
No, no, I'm fine with pokemon. I play loads of Nintendo games. Your last bit was what I was on about. Nintendo is normalfag shit. Every hipster in the world isn't complete without saying it's their favorite franchise. I know it didn't used to always be like this, but it is now. That's why it's shameful to enjoy it. Not because it's childish, but because it's a more socially-acceptable form of CoD now.
And, like I said, if any women ever says they like video games, Pokemon is always at the top, if not the only thing they like.

>> No.9776954

>>9776911
woman are attracted to successful alpha males with lots of money not NEETS its their nature. they are supposed to produce successful offspring i don't hate them for it its the way they are you can't get chicks if your unsuccessful.

>> No.9776956

>You sit around looking at 2D girls and call real girls 3DPD becasue you try to hide your fear of communication with real people.
You are an idiot. Try understand, some of us just don't enjoy communication with real people.

>> No.9776957

>>9776954
That's not quite true. It's normal for a females to mate with a NEET male who has desirable physical characteristics, and then convince a more powerful, successful male that it was his sperm that fertilized her egg. In doing so she ensures her brood will be both healthy and well provided for.

Of course, I don't think you will find many NEETs like that here.

>> No.9776961

>>9776957
Only if you think that physical characteristics are the ones that will determine the evolutionary success of your offspring.

>> No.9776962

>>9776956
>If you had a girlfriend, you wouldn't have a waifu, discuss.

Is what this thread boils down to.

>> No.9776966

>>9776956
the fact that you are communicating over the internet proves you need communication you just are socially inept and could never make friends. internet and reality are both communication and people

>> No.9776969

>>9776961
The physical characteristics are the most noticeable, and are the most easy to respond to on a subconscious level.

>> No.9776975

>>9776961
no thats not true woman find successful people attractive even if they are ugly being rich makes them more attractive. they want the alpha its not all about looks like it is with men do they have sex ed over in america?

>> No.9776993

>>9776929
Stop trying to act cool, you no-life turbonerd.

>> No.9776994

>>9776966
>the fact that you are communicating over the internet proves you need communication
Yes I need communication but I don't enjoy it. Understand the difference.

>could never make friends.
I never said I don't have friends.

>> No.9777004

>>9776994
you do enjoy communication that is why you are here if you didn't enjoy it you wouldn't be on this site now would you? the reason you don't like communication in reality is because it takes more social skills that you don't have and you also probably have social anxiety. this makes it easier to communicate over the internet

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>>9777004
>any communication is good communication

>> No.9777019

>>9776899
>I

You say this a lot for a Buddhist.

>> No.9777021

>>9777004
>you do enjoy communication that is why you are here if you didn't enjoy it you wouldn't be on this site now would you?
Just because this site is the least bad, it doesn't make it good or enjoyable. Social isolating has connection to mental illness, that's why I need some sort social communications.

> the reason you don't like communication in reality is because it takes more social skills that you don't have and you also probably have social anxiety.
Nope. Never had problems with social situations. I just don't like them.

>> No.9777023

>>9777014
I would shoot that dog

>> No.9777038

>>9777021
listen you like communication that is why you are on this web site. how about a test go without communication for 2 years i promise you. you will be running back to /jp/

>> No.9777051

>>9777038
Like I said, I am here because I need social communication, not because I like it. Like I buy food because I need to eat.. Why would I buy food, if I didn't need to eat?

>> No.9777059

>>9777038
Hey
Buddy
Normalfags encompass literally ~99.5% of the human race.
This is just about the only social place in existence to get a decent discussion at. Because in real life it's all about how tony is cheating on sandra and how awesome to the new cowadoody will be.

>> No.9777069

>>9777051
you like it... if you didn't like it you wouldn't need it. you can live without talking to someone you can't live without food. social communication is not essential to survival there are many people on this earth that simply don't talk to anyone and are happy. the fact that you can't do that means you are communicating to maintain your happiness

>> No.9777075

>>9777019
>implying even Buddhist monks have reached the point of enlightenment where they don't say I
I bet some of them spend half their conversations thinking "don't say I" as practice though.

>> No.9777091

>>9777019
I say "I" a lot too.
I think it's more of a habit. I really don't think when I type at all which leads to many mistakes and misinterpretations.

>> No.9777095

>>9777069
Just google social isolation + mental health and see for youself. There are many researchs about this. I need social communication to be mentally healthy. Bad mental health could lead to bad physical health.

>many people on this earth that simply don't talk to anyone and are happy
Nice gut feeling argument.

But I have to admit, I like when I can so easily crush some normalfag noobie who can't even argue.

>> No.9777106

>>9777095
Thats because those people need social interaction if they don't get it they become depressed. they're have been hermits throughout history that have been happy all alone. your not one of them. also you haven't proven me wrong on any rebuttle

>> No.9777119

So why shouldn't Buddhists say I? Explain how this relates to their beliefs. I am ignorant of it.

>> No.9777125

>>9777119
They say "we" because it makes them seem cool and professional.

>> No.9777131

>>9777095
You were born inferior. Psychologists have a five factor model to describe personality, and one of the factors is "extraversion". Having low extraversion is often associated with problems, but not always. Some people just don't enjoy or need the company of others. This is why throughout history, there have been hermits and monks and vagabonds who ended up totally fine. There's a big difference between being an introvert or being, say, depressed or antisocial, even if there's some link between the two.

Here's a lady saying words:
http://youtu.be/c0KYU2j0TM4

>> No.9777143

>>9777131
most introverts still need some social interaction. you included that's why your here so don't act like your something different cause your not.

>> No.9777154
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9777154

>>9777095
>>9777143
>wahh I need interaction with other humans because I'm so normal so everyone must be this way
No.
You may be mistaking "stimulation" for "social activity". Stimulation is vital for absolutely any living thing. But only normalfags need to communicate with other people. Sure, it's fun to do, but truNEETs don't require it.

>> No.9777156

>>9777119

>So why shouldn't Buddhists say I?

They normally don't care one way or the other. It's just a word.

>In the Maha-nidana Sutta, the Buddha taught that it was incorrect to say that the self is finite, but it is also incorrect to say that the self is infinite. In this sutra, the Buddha taught us not to hold on to views about whether the self is this or that. We fall into the idea that we individuals are component parts of a One Thing, or that our individual self is false an only an infinite self that-is-everything is true. Understanding the self requires going beyond concepts and ideas.

>> No.9777165

>>9777143
I fucking hate being here. I would love nothing more than for my computer to explode and I'm forced to read books for the rest of my life.

Whether this is social is debatable, but plenty of /jp/ers have expressed an inability to talk with people outside of anonymous boards. Here you're not a human being sitting behind a computer, you're just words that appear in response to my words. You could be a robot for all I know. And when we do have robots, I'll probably talk to them instead.

>> No.9777161

>>9777156
Buddhists are fucking crazy.

>> No.9777177

>>9777154
then leave /jp/ after all you don't need social interaction. never communicate with anyone over the internet ever again because you don't need it.

>> No.9777167

>>9777106
>they're have been hermits throughout history that have been happy all alone.
Again your gut feeling. How you know they have been happy and healthy?

Don't try say I need to prove anything wrong. That's argument from ignorance. You are the one who needs to proof. Claim without proof isn't valid.

>The symptoms of chronic stress and social isolation are identical. It is the stress, or rather the harmful hormones associates with stress, that makes us sick.
http://socialwellness.wordpress.com/why-social-isolation-makes-us-sick-%E2%80%93-a-theory/

>> No.9777200

>>9777177
That's like saying stop reading books. I like sharing ideas and opinions. I don't need it, but it's fun. Normalfags do indeed need to be social, I know about it, they go comatose just after a month of being without anyone to talk to. I'm fine though, I've been spending years alone and I love it. I highly doubt this counts as a true social interaction, it's just fucking text, I can mail letters to Animal Crossing villagers and it would be similar, except I don't get much of a witty response back. The point is, if I was locked up for a month with no internet I wouldn't stop moving. As long as I still had any means of stimulating myself with music and books then I'm fine.

>> No.9777211

>>9777131
Introverts need social interaction too. They just don't need as much as extroverts. Afaik most people with some mental illness like depression are introverts. Yes that's just what I think, I don't have source.

I consider myself introvert.

>> No.9777212

>>9777200
online communication is social interaction. the fact that you are here proves you need it.those that don't wouldn't be communicating now would they. its called communication for a reason you are communicating however you are using the internet as a medium for that communication.

>> No.9777217

>>9777211
depressed people close themselves off from society it doesn't mean they are introverted.

>> No.9777221

>>9777212
There is a line between pretending to be retarded and being legitimately retarded. Claiming that doing something means you need to do something is far past that line, though.

>> No.9777219

>>9777200
How you know you don't need it? Have you been 1-2 years without internet?

>> No.9777224

>>9777217
And I never said such. I said most depressed people are introverts(from my exprience). Like most of my friends.

>> No.9777222

>>9777177
Social interation is not the only thing you can get by communicating. I, personally, come to /jp/ to get information.

>> No.9777228

>>9777212
>I like ice cream obviously that means if I stop eating it I will die
Seriously did you think about what i just posted? I'm here because I like it. That's it. I've been offline for weeks before. It's nice, but it gets just a little dull. Instead of breaking myself and realizing I don't need the internet I just come back on because it's available.

>>9777219
It's one to two months, not years, before the average person goes comatose from lack of social stimulation. I'm sure I can live without talking to anyone as long as I still have stimulation like music and books. Of course without that I'd die easily.

>> No.9777233

>>9777221
so close yourself off from all forms of communication no one is forcing you to be here you could just leave.

>> No.9777239

>>9777233
Shit, son, what is your major malfunction? Are you missing the other half of your brain?

>> No.9777246

>>9777239
leave /jp/ and close yourself off from society and the internet see how long you will last.

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9777242

>>9777233
You think we're going to stop amusing our selves just to prove a point to some random idiot?
Do you go around asking kids that they're addicted to their families, and if they want to prove they aren't they should run away for no good reason?
My god you're fucking stupid.

>> No.9777250

>>9777246
I was not the man you are arguing with, and he has no need to do such a thing to prove a point to the single least intelligent monkey the universe has ever seen. You make me sick.

>> No.9777251

>>9777242
if you are what you claim to be a person who does not need social communication then you should be able to disable your internet and never talk to anyone and be just as happy as before

>> No.9777252

If you define something as a need you must also explain what it is needed for. "Normal" social life? Existence?

>> No.9777253

>>9777239
I miss the days when /jp/ would simply ignore posts with improper grammar and punctuation.

>> No.9777255

>>9777167

That article doesn't make a lot of sense. The majority of it is just talking about animals defending themselves from predators and animals forming social connections with each other, but then it just says, "Therefore individuals feeling cut off from their group will naturally be in a state of high anxiety."

This applies to most people, but not all of them. I don't feel "a state of high anxiety" when I'm away from /jp/ and /jp/ is not a social group.

Honestly, I find it a little creepy how some of you anthropomorphize /jp/. /jp/ is not your friend and it does not have a personality, it's nothing more than a gathering spot for a collection of completely different anonymous people who are exchanging information about various topics. For example, forums are social groups because they have persistent identities and you form friendships and connections with each other. That is social interaction, you can recognize people on a forum and talk to them.

Real socialization is based around social bonds that are formed between people, it's a connection that develops over time. By its nature there can be no familiarity in an anonymous environment so this social connection is impossible to form here, this is nothing more than an interactive way to exchange information about hobbies and interests.

>> No.9777259

>>9777253
I really should not, I know. Might regret it later.

>> No.9777265

>>9777239
>>9777242
Nerds always sperg out like mad when they get backed into a corner.

>> No.9777272

I enjoy social communication but like one said, 99,999999999999999% people are retarded idiot normalfags. I don't associate with those people, because I just don't like them, not because I am afraid of communicating with them.

>> No.9777276

I can communicate just fine. I just have nothing in common with anyone, and I have a very low sex drive.

>> No.9777281

>>9777252
if the person does not need social interaction they should be able to close themselves off from all forms of it without experiencing unhappiness. no internet

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>>9777265
Nice ad homonym son. Why not read your own post to yourself now.

>> No.9777289

>>9777255
>Real socialization is based around social bonds that are formed between people, it's a connection that develops over time.
Changing few word with some stranger on the street isn't socializing then?

>> No.9777290

>>9777281
Oh, I get it. You're autistic and interpret everything in the most literal black and white form.

No, believe it or not, there is a gray area of social interaction. You know, in between being a social butterfly and despising all forms of communication. Are you following? I can slow down.
Like I said before, one can like using the internet, but that doesn't mean one is addicted to the internet or social interactions, just like one can enjoy masturbation but not be addicted to it.
Sorry is this all going over your head?

>> No.9777295

>>9777290
but without that social interaction you would be unhappy proving you need it.

>> No.9777300

I am strong

I have no need to interact with other people, words on a computer screen is more than enough to get what I need.

>> No.9777302

>>9777300
yes but you still need some. /jp/ is enough for you

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9777307

>>9777295
Did you skip my ice cream analogy?
For the last time, you dolt, you can like something but not need it.
I fucking love mcdonald's iced mochas but I've gone months without them. I guess I can check that off my list of "things I like but will not kill me if I do not have them for too long"

>> No.9777308

For the Anon who is confused, think of it this way:
If you lost the ability to post and could only lurk, would you go mad? If the answer is "yes", leave because fuck you get out of my 4chan. If the answer is "no", as it should be, hopefully you'll see why you can read information for entertainment rather than social interaction. It just happens that we all want things or have something to say. There's very little "small talk" online, because we're usually doing something more transactional or entertaining in a way that isn't "bonding".

On this note, if any mods are reading this, please ban me from posting for all time.

>> No.9777315

>>9777307
you would become unhappy without it. you need it to maintain your happiness. if you had no need for it you wouldn't communicate

>> No.9777320

>>9777307
But how you know you don't need it?

>> No.9777328

>>9777289

>Changing few word with some stranger on the street isn't socializing then?

Strangers on the street aren't anonymous. If you talk to someone outside of an anonymous environment, especially in face to face interaction, then you immediately establish dozens of unique features in your mind about this person and you begin to form a social connection, even though it may be a brief one. Gender, appearance, scent, tone of voice, etc. None of those are here. I have no idea what you are like, all I see is text. You don't even have a name to separate you from everyone else. I can only assume that I'm talking to the same person because you replied to my post.

To accurately replicate the level of social isolation that is in anonymous interaction you would have to blindfold people, make it impossible for them to smell, hear, or touch, and then throw them in a gigantic room with several hundred other people who they somehow manage to see as nothing more than anonymous floating blobs of text.

There is far too much isolation in the nature of this for it to count as social interaction. It's just data exchange. Do you think of yourself as socializing when you read a news article? This is basically a more interactive form of that.

>> No.9777329

>>9776415
I communicate just well and I'm sociable when the need arises. Everyone who's met me says I'm a considerate and mellow fellow that makes does around me feel at ease.

>> No.9777336

>>9777315
Okay, don't worry, I'll get you to stop repeating yourself some how.
Yes, I said I like doing it. That's it.
But, that last part, if I didn't need it, I wouldn't do it?
So, should I stick myself in a dark locker with a tunnel that shoots some flavorless goop at me three times a day? Why do you somehow think I want to live in the most bare-minimum way possible? Hey, jackass, I don't know if you know this, but I actually enjoy doing things. I don't like video games because I have some sort of addiction, or watch anime because I have some form of PTSD and use it to calm myself. I have just like enjoying things for the simple sake of enjoying them. This is one of those things.
Get it?
No, I no you don't. Go ahead and say it again.

>> No.9777342

>You sit around looking at 2D girls and call real girls 3DPD becasue you try to hide your fear of communication with real people.
No, I sit around looking at 2D girls and call real girls 3DPD becasue I'm trying to hide from their feminist aggression and other type of violence.
For the love of god please let me at least have peace in my own place, are you going to harrass me even there? You 3D women are the worst.

>> No.9777353

>>9777336
you seem to be pretty stupid even normal people won't die if they don't talk to anyone. they just need it to maintain their happiness and sanity. just like you are using this online image board for the purpose of social communication to keep yourself happy.

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9777362

>>9777353
>you seem to be pretty stupid even normal people won't die if they don't talk to anyone
Actually they do. I read many articles about this. After about a month on average they become literally comatose and refuse to live anymore.

>> No.9777370

>>9777362
they become so depressed that they become suicidal. they can still live off food water and shelter. the stress would reduce their life expectancy though.

>> No.9777373

TL;DR : because I don't want a girlfriend and 3DPD encourages longing for one.

Not a fear of communication, I just don't want to get in a relationship with someone- especially when the vast majority are beaches and shores.
To find a girl that is into taking it easy and is content with just sitting staring into the night sky? I'd have more luck digging the backyard for semi-precious metals.

I need my space and my hobbies, to live with someone day in day out would be shit.
That would make a boring boyfriend as well- I would feel bad for any girlfriend I get because I am not going to provide much to the relationship.

To look at lewd pictures of women would encourage desires of a relationship.

>>9777353
>need it to maintain their happiness and sanity.
the phrase "as good as dead" comes to mind when thinking of that.

>> No.9777374

>>9777362
What the fuck? Is this true? I didn't realize normals were that fucked up. Link some proof, please.

>> No.9777380

>>9777374
Why don't you try not talking to anyone for a month and see for yourself?

I bet that despite how "truNEET" and hiki and antisocial you like to think you are, you haven't ever gone a few days without speaking to someone in some form.

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9777382

>>9777370
You don't know what comatose means do you?

>>9777374
yes it's true. I can't pick any one source, but just search "isolation torture" and similar.

>> No.9777392

>>9777382
Is this about locking people in an empty room, or are they allowed to consume from media?

>> No.9777398

>>9777380
I have been over a month without any form of human contact before. I did have video games though, if that makes a difference.

>> No.9777396

>>9777382
listen you are using this web site for the same reason they use sites like Facebook social interaction. you are using it to keep yourself happy just like they are maybe you require less of it so the effects when lost won't be as extreme. however i promise you if you cut yourself off from all forms of communication you would experience a huge drop in happiness

>> No.9777399

>>9777392
Books are a form of social contact, as are movies, games, pieces of music, and so on. It's communication from one human being to the other. So of course isolation doesn't allow someone to use these. Otherwise they might just be able to talk to a VN character and get a long fine. He means by yourself, with nothing.

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9777404

I think there is a big misunderstanding in this thread. You're mistaking sensory stimulation for socialization. Very different things.

Let's look at the definition.
>Socialization
>a continuing process whereby an individual acquires a personal identity and learns the norms, values, behavior, and social skills appropriate to his or her social position.

We do not have personal identities. There are no social positions. The lack of both personal identities and social positions means that there are no norms, values, behaviors, or social skills that you need in order to exchange information on /jp/. This is not a continuing process between two or more people with established personal identities, these are isolated anonymous exchanges of text.

/jp/ is a form of stimulation though. Humans need stimulation in order to survive. You keep saying that humans will go comatose without socialization, but this is not true. They will go comatose after months of complete sensory deprivation, this would be months in a state where none of their senses can be stimulated whatsoever.

>> No.9777405

>>9777396
I have left the internet, I was fine.

Again, for the tenth time, I enjoy this.
Fuck it believe what you want obviously I can't get through your thick autistic head, it rejects anything you don't understand.

>> No.9777412

>>9777405
if you left it for a long enough time you would experience a drop in happiness i went 6 months without internet i was fine until around the fourth month

>> No.9777422

>>9777412
It is almost depressing watching you desperately repeat yourself like this.

>> No.9777429

>>9777412
Why are you pretending you know me, or that everyone is you?
I like sharing opinions, but as long as I have a means to collect data I am fine. This includes simply having a stockpile of books or anything else pre-recorded. After I collect this information, I like to have it tested, using people. But that's the extent of it, I like it, it's not a requirement for learning it.

>>9777422
I'm starting to think he may have some sort of short-term memory problem. Maybe we should try to be more sensitive.

>> No.9777431

>>9777422
try it and see the results cut off your internet for 1 year and well see if you will be as happy as you are now

>> No.9777437

>>9777412
I don't want to sound like a bully, but stop projecting your experience onto others. In all likelyhood, you just didn't deal with it well.

Throughout history there have been hermits, recluses and loners- poets, monks, explorers, woodcutters, people in exile, the list goes on.
If they were that unhappy from lack of social contact, they would probably stop what they were doing- but no, these people enjoyed that stuff, explorers kept exploring more places, people lived in the wilderness hunting shit and still had a jolly old time.

>> No.9777435

>>9777431
I clearly have considerably more willpower than you have atoms between your ears.

>> No.9777439

Jokes on you, I call real people 3DPD because they have horrible personalities

>> No.9777441

>>9777431
You retarded piece of shit, stop bumping this awful thread with the same shit over and over.

>> No.9777442

>>9777399

>Books are a form of social contact, as are movies, games, pieces of music, and so on. It's communication from one human being to the other.

No, they are not social contact. These are forms of stimulation.

Books, movies, games, music, these are not humans. There is absolutely no social contact going on when you read a book. You are reading pieces of paper with text on them. The characters in these stories are imaginary, they do not exist, they're not humans that you can form a social relationship with. You can be entertained by the story though and this will stimulate you, but it is not social contact.

>> No.9777447

>>9777362
I must be superhuman. I like it, epic, nice.

>> No.9777448

>>9777442
You could always try writing a book if you had nothing else. Just imagine some people and how they interact and so forth.

>> No.9777476 [DELETED] 

>>9777422
You are just trying to argue against truth. It is scientific fact that people are social creatures and they need some sort social interaction to maintain their mental health. Some people need more, some less. Just because you have been week, month or year without, it doesn't necessary prove that you don't need social interaction.

>> No.9777480

>>9777476
No, by a year, it absolutely does. A month is probably enough, but a year? It really does.

>> No.9777493

>>9777476
but the internet is not social interaction. I'm just reading a bunch of words on a screen.

>> No.9777501

>>9777399
By that logic, I wouldn't be able to use anything made by humans.
I would probably die of starvation, since I am not very good at gathering food.

>> No.9777519

Someone linked a video a while back on here where these normalfags had to be shut off by themselves in a dark room. A couple of them were freaking out and hallucinating barely a few hours into it.

The "diagnosed introvert" among them had the least trouble.

>> No.9777538

I actually hate people in general.

Do you remember in high school, there was that typical simpleton hot and popular girl, which you kind of hated? That whore kissed me without my consent three times. I was 14 by that time, and I already watched anime and knew about wonderful 2D world. Disgusting how that girl kissed me. Just why.

>> No.9777546

>>9777538
I take it that was today? Just claim her.

>> No.9777565

>>9777538
Bitches and whores, all of them. They wouldn't play with us like that back in the good ol' days when we could just bash them on the head and drag them by the hair into our lair. We could've been NEETs all we wanted to back then, shame the world has changed.

>> No.9777568

>>9777538
You are defiled now and you disgust me.
To regain your purity you must kill her and eat her heart

>> No.9777569

>>9776435
I bet all the time you're looking down your nose at other people, everyone refrains from talking to you because they actually find YOU boring and your attitude is off-putting and so nobody ever opens up to you.

>> No.9777590

My best friend is the barbell; our communication is objective, true and subtle at all times. If the 20kg iron phallus doesn't want to hang out at the gym that day, it will let me know with its crushing burden.

DYEL?

>> No.9777602

Not really, I was always a weirdo into 2d. Communication isn't scary to me at all. I just don't get along well with people very often, but it's no big deal. If there's anything I fear, it's failure.

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9777608

People are fucking terrifying. I have no idea how some people manage to talk to humans outside of the internet. I would normally be terrified of all of you, but luckily there is this huge barricade in between us (internet) that separates you from me.

The scary thing about humans is that we're like animals being restrained with social conditioning, but you never when the animal is going to break through that and try to bite your throat out.

At least with dogs or cats I know that they're an animal and they don't pretend to be anything else. You can predict how they will behave and defend yourself accordingly.

>> No.9777620

Oh how many times I've masturbated to Misato.

>> No.9777627

>>9777608
I feel the same way. If I met you, I wouldn't know at what moment you would try to rob me, or rape me, or kill me for no reason.

>> No.9777653

>>9777627

>I wouldn't know at what moment you would try to rob me, or rape me, or kill me for no reason.

Exactly. Most of the time these things are pretty instinctual as well. Someone might get angry, that animal inside of them will take over, and he flies into a crazy rage and starts beating people like a fucking chimp. You hear about it all the time in bars and places like that.

Terrifying. Primates in general are also pretty scary when you think about it. Gorillas, chimps, even those little monkeys. They do so much random violence and they start screeching when they fight.

>> No.9777656

>>9777590
20kg?
Is that even a plate?

>> No.9777679

>>9777656
lmao 1platE!!

>> No.9777684

>>9777679
I wonder how many /jp/edos play Dwarf Fortress.

>> No.9777687

>>9777546
I'm not 14, also:

I wouldn't hang out with that troublesome chick. Holy fuck, her grades are shit and she hangs out with problematic kids.

>> No.9777694

>>9777684
I do. Building a /jp/ fortress at the moment

>> No.9777714

people got lost at my point my main point was yes there are people that don't need social interaction
but they wouldn't be on /jp/ they would find it a nuisance they don't like communication they find it boring therefor they wouldn't be here. the people that are here may require less social interaction but they
still need some. they would find this place boring and a nuisance and would leave if they didn't need it

>> No.9777725

I'm not lonely because I live with 5 other people and several animals.

>> No.9777734

>>9777714
that was my main point now im off think about it and come to your own conclusion

>> No.9777749

I avoid contact with people because they eventually ask about my life. I'm ashamed of lagging behind my peers so I isolate myself, causing me to lag more. Doing this for 10 years has made me almost a hermit.

>> No.9777759

>>9777714

>the people that are here may require less social interaction but they
still need some.
>need some

It's not that they need the interaction that they get on /jp/, they may just want it. It's not as simple as either, "If you don't need something then you won't want it at all."

Think of drug addiction. There are some people who are hopelessly addicted to drugs and will go into horrible withdrawals if they stop, there are people who occasionally dabble in small amounts of weak drugs from time to time but they don't need them, there are people who don't take any drugs but have nothing against drugs, and people who hate drugs.

People who are addicted to socialization and need it = Normals
People who socialize in small amounts but don't need it = /jp/
People who live in isolation but have no problem with socializing = Monks and people like that.
People who live in isolation but despise socializing = Cynical mountain hermits

>> No.9777806

>>9777759
>People who live in isolation but despise socializing
>but
You probably meant to write AND you fagturtle.

Also according to you, you can be a monk and on /jp/, so that's a bonus point. We're not materialistic because we're broke.

I haven't read the thread but I like you simply because you disagree with that faggot whom you postlinked. I don't know why you're arguing with him, his english makes less sense than my diarrhea.

>> No.9777852

>>9777759
by need i mean on a long enough timeline without any social interaction they would eventually become depressed or less happy then they first were. sorry forgot that part

>> No.9777868

>>9776488
this is the reason I grew tired of women when I used to be relateively normal in high school/college. You couldn't even ask someone for what the homework for the day was without them insulting you for hitting on them.

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