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Patchouli is a fucking mage.
She can also lay down some sick beats.

What would Chris-Chan yell when he has sex with a librarian?

PATCH-OULAYYYYYYYYY

>>9765893
Goddamn it.

She probably has really good blood.

knowledge raasrael

Remi is lazy and keeps her around to do research

>>9765856
Probably helped her move her house with her mayjick.

I'd like to think they were both on the run from holy magic wielding witch hunting Catholics back in the old days and helped each other out and became friends like that.

>>9765856
This is cute as HELL.

>It's not like Patchouli can do anything useful.
she made that moonrocket

Patchy has anemia.

I wonder why.

Probably because Patchouli is one of the strongest magicians, next to Marisa and Yuuka. Would you let a magician freeload with you? I know I would.

>>9766271
What good is a magician if she's too sickly to cast spells?

>>9765856

Because Patchouly has helped Remilia to mantain her sister in the basement since forever. Without her magic combined with the phisical prowress of Remilia, none of then alone could control Flandre when she becomes rebellious.

>>9766342
And where did ZUN ever claim that?

>>9766323
Maybe Remilia met her in her prime before she got all sickly.

Or Patchouli might just be on cool down after casting what was probably a hard spell to move an entire mansion across a continent.

>>9765914
Patchouli is too young to have seen the witch hunting

Patchouli is the NEET that Remilia is floating. This is how your parents feel about you, anons.

>>9766323
She's not that sickly. She can hit pretty fucking hard with her book in the fighting games, and she can do some serious wizardry bullshit, as shown by the mangas.

>>9766356
I don't know man, they could have been at it in secret well after the craze died down in the 1800s.

Magic Catholics and their secret ways, man.

Patchouli and Remilia met one day and fought to settle their differences. The magician was in her prime. During the fight Remilia crushed Patchouli's chest causing permanent damage and asthma attacks. She took pity on Patchouli and decided to lend her her library for studying so she may find a cure.
Patchouli has been searching ever since.

>>9765986
She was born with it.

>>9766429
I like to think it was a by product of messing up her human-to-youkai transformation.

>>9766441
patchouli wasn't human

>>9766452
It's the easiest way to explain it, since Alice and Byakuren went from human to youkai, meaning that Patchouli probably did as well, and Marisa will at some point.

>>9766467
Akyuu's article says she was born a witch, though.

Yes, we all know how much those are worth, but it seems right in this case.

>>9766475
Maybe. It's unlikely for a youkai to be born with a defect like that, so that means its:

a)Akyuu bullshitting
b)Patchouli bullshitting
c)Something made her anemic (Remilia, Flandre, Koakuma, maintaining a massive library, etc.)
d)She gets exactly 0 iron from anything she consumes.

>>9766484
>It's unlikely for a youkai to be born with a defect like that.

So that means Kogasa got her heterochromia from something outside of being born with it too?

>>9766491
>So that means Kogasa got her heterochromia from something outside of being born with it too?

Maybe it was caused by a severe injury, like David Bowie.

>>9766491
That's not really a defect, though. It doesn't get in the way of anything she does.

>>9766491
That's not really a defect in her case. It ties in with the kind of youkai she is, and doesn't impair her activities in anyway, unlike anemia.

>>9766498
>>9766499
>not really a defect

It's a defect as much as anemia is, in that sense. Something went wrong when she was born.

>>9766505
Nothing went wrong when she was born. In fact, she should probably only have one eye.

>>9766475
>Akyuu's article says she was born a witch, though.

People still take that hack's word for granted?

>>9766505
Anemia gets in the way of a magician's casting spells. Patchouli tries to do something and she can't do it as well as she'd like because anemia. In that sense, it's a defect.

Heterochromia doesn't stop Kogasa from doing anything. Besides maybe allowing people to easily distinguish between her and her reflection (maybe there's some great prank that doesn't work because of this), but I can't imagine this ever mattering.

Youkai magicians are generally weaker than actual humans are physically. Perhaps her asthma and overall poor health are just the results of being born as a magician rather than starting off as a human first like Alice.

Why do you think it was congenital? Her ill health was said to be result of her magical studies.

>>9766510
It's almost like you didn't read the very next sentence.

I doubt Remilia would tolerate anyone whom she doesn't really like. In official material she seems to be nice to Patchouli (and Meiling) which means she actually does consider them her friends.

From a purely utilitarian point of view it might be that Remi doesn't fully trust her own judgement in difficult situations or that the sheer difference in personality makes Patchouli a kind of semi-mentor or advisor.

>>9766531
>I doubt Remilia would tolerate anyone whom she doesn't really like. In official material she seems to be nice to Patchouli (and Meiling) which means she actually does consider them her friends.

What is it about them that she likes?

>>9766539
Obviously she likes them for entertainment purposes.
She likes watching Meiling beat up people.
She likes watching Patchouli read books by herself all day.

>>9766531
I always liked seeing Patchouli as a sort of adviser to Remilia who was probably prone to making stupid decisions on her own.

>>9766559
But building a rocket and going to the moon was Remilia's idea.

>>9766578
Sometimes Patchouli is probably just too tired to argue with her and just does what she wants so she can go back to reading or sleeping.

I always wonder when will people start reading supplementary material.

And I don't really mean it's some prerequisite to be a fan or something, but at least try skimming through most of it before discussing details of Touhou setting. It helps.

She's a mage and alchemist and probably knows more spells than any other Touhou.

>>9766871
I don't care what canon says, Kasen will not be real to me until she shows up in a game.

>>9766871
Not that I mind you posting it, but what's the relevance of that page?

>>9766901
>...it was mostly me doing the making.

So, why is Patchouli friends with Remilia?

>>9766901

It explains the relationship between Remilia and Patchouli?

>>9765911
Well Patchy is anemic.

>>9766911
>>9766912
She makes beer for her?

>>9766925
I wonder if that could have been the result of living with a vampire.

also ITT: /jp/ discussing friendship, no wonder we haven't found out any potential good answer.

>>9765856
>It's not like Patchouli can do anything useful.
Perhaps the same could be said for Remilia...

>>9766977
Remilia pretty much runs the whole show. There also wouldn't be a windows Touhou game without her.

Patchouli is the strongest witch. It is beneficial to Remi to keep her on good terms otherwise Patchouli would just fuck her up.

>>9766994
Remi is a vampire, and her sister is a stronger vampire. Patchy cannot beat either in a fight.

>>9766510
That simply means that one or both of her parents were magicians already.
Patchouli's choosing the path of becoming immortal was probably motivated by her inability to find a cure for her asthma. So now she still has asthma attacks but she now cannot die from them.
Being born a magician largely meant that she just had to find the right books and learn the spells. Whereas Marisa had to first teach herself magic and then train to increase her powerlevel

>>9767308
I don't think Flan is a stronger vampire. Not with deformed wings and fangs too undersized to feed herslef properly.
What Flan is though, is crazy. So when she goes off she is like those drugged out people you see on COPS that take six police officers, pepper spray and a tazer to get them to the ground. You also cant 100% trust her to obey the spell card rules when she is really mad

>>9767320
>fangs too undersized
IIRC, it was explicitly stated she does not get her own food because she blows things up instead of just killing them.

>>9767308

Does one of the print works flat-out state that Flandre is the stronger of the two? In terms of physical/magical parameters, that is. Because I'll be damned if Scarlet Gensokyo isn't more obnoxious than any of Flandre's spellcards.

>>9767330
If you will prefer, I will endeavor to instead say that they are ``both fairly strong'' in the future.

>>9766366
These were former times, my friend.

>>9767323
It also implies that she blows them up because she has never connected her food and its source.
She has never hunted for herself. Not once. Because Remilla knew she couldn't
She is a vampire equivilant of a thalidimide baby. She cant turn into an animal form, her wings only grew a single finger so there was nothing for the skin to spread between, and her fangs are too short. And she is psychotic.
The most likely cause of this is that Remi turned her herself, and most lore agrees that child vampires cannot create another vampire. Remi has told people that she is too small to make another vampire not just because she is parroting vampire tales but because she was not fully successful with her sister and doesn't want to try again

>>9767373
She does turn into a bat when you fight her, though. And yeah, Remi never taught her how to hunt, so blame her if you must blame somebody.

What kind of magic Patchouli uses might explain why Remi became such good friends with her.
Remi, Sakuya and Flandre all have powers related to the manipulation of space and time. Sakuya, obviously, can stop time in an area. Remillia can expand and contract space in an enclosed area, so the SDM is like a Tardis inside.
Flandre seems to have power over entropy, hence her ability to blow things she can see up.
Patchy then is?

>>9767377
The jewels that decorate Flans wings, look suspicously like those Patchy summons when she fights. I wonder how many of Flans abilities come from a power boost from them and if they were made by Patchy to be a gift from Remi?

>>9767424
The bat thing is blatently wrong, we know nothing about her wings, I do not recall any material stating her fangs were too small. Your claims of her being psychotic just mean she is more fun. All of this post seems to have come straight out of your ass. Do you have an actual argument? And about Patchy being her power source, remember that she had to summon a storm over the SDM and ran herself out trying to keep Flandre, who was getting bored very quickly, from leaving. If she contributed anything to boosting Flandre up, she would have stopped, so she clearly was not.

>>9767408
Remilia's power is to control fate. Its Sakuya that fools around with the space inside Koumakan.
Flandre's power is to bring the "eye" of tension that holds an item together into the palm of her hand. When she clenches her fist it crushes the eye and the item pulls iteslf apart in what appears to be an explosion. She can only crush it because she is godawfully strong.

>>9765986

>>9767462
Must be shitty magicians if they can't protect themselves from that. Overrated race.

They're just old friends who both prefer the night, that's really all there is to it. Patchouli helps to solve problems or lends Remilia a hand whenever she wants to cause problems, and Remilia gives her a place to stay and study magic.

>>9767320

It's stated in her profile that she's got much more destructive power than Remilia.

>>9767602
I highly doubt that she can use it. Flan is just too crazy and inept to learn magic.

Sure, Flan might the equivalent of a 300 pound Football player but Remilia's magic is like an equalizer.

>>9767634
Her power is literally destruction. She can blow up anything. Ergo, she is the most powerful.

>>9767647
That is, if, she can see it.

>>9767655
Still places her a damn sight ahead. She can destroy anything she can see; the same cannot be said for the others.

Wasn't it already stated that magicians have weak bodies because of the harmful chemicals they use on a regular basis?

Also Patchy helps Remi out a lot, like when she built her a rocket and later built her a pool and helped everyone in the SDM get Flandre under control when she was out frolicking. She caries her weight in the house as well as Meiling and Sakuya do. And even if she didn't Remi is very tolerant of freeloaders such as the fairy maids.

>>9767722
Is it not more fun to imagine some intimate moment wherein Patchy allows Remilia to drain some blood from her, and Remi stays just a little longer than she should?

>>9767733
Only if it leads to Remi taking advantage of a too weak to resist Patchy!

Why do people become friends with each other?

Maybe it's fate.

>>9767308
Vampires are weak to the Sun, one of Patchy's strongest spells is, you know, a spell that utilizes the power of the sun. She'd stomp them both in a fight, and if it wasn't for her sicknesses, she'd be one of the strongest characters in the series.

>>9766883
Of course she knows more spells, but her spells aren't as devastating as some other magicians that specialize, ie Marisa or Yuuka (who canonically has THE ultimate magic).

>>9767960
Then why do people call Patchy the strongest magician?

>>9766988
Flandre or Patchouli probably would've started some shit. Relatively tame and peaceful Touhous cause incidents all the time (Toyosatomimi, Yuyuko, Kaguya).

>>9767969
You have a fungus youkai and a deranged vampire. Without Remilia, they would undoubtably have done something.

>>9767446
Do we have a physicist in here? I'm fairly certain there is something relating to fields like the Higgs' field that hold matter together, and if that is true, that would mean that Flandre simply has to relax that field to destroy something.

>>9767996
To my dear friend to troll/stupidperson: there's more than one way to destroy stuff.

>>9767661
She's still one of the relatively weakest extra stage bosses. Fuck, I don't think there is an extra stage boss she could beat in a fight when you consider how aggressive she is.

>>9768011
I am not sure, but I believe we have a difference of opinion here, and if so that is a very silly way to argue, because opinions are not facts, except for mine.

>>9766952
This isn't a new theory. I think it's highly likely Patchouli is was the blood drank of by Remilia.

My personal hypothesis on the idea has always been that Patchouli is a registered Librarian of Time and Space. Giant magic library filled with every book that has ever existed and is constantly updated with new books as they come out? Yeah, sounds like a serious knowledge-time-space hole to me.

It might also explain her construction of Sakuya's watch, but whatever.

The general explanation I've heard is that Patchouli, although she's a fraction of Remilia's age, is still far better educated and tutors or advises Remilia on matters of the mind.

>>9768003
Yes, and? Every other Touhou has the ability to fuck something up, but Flandre has the special ability to do just that. She doesn't just use magic to obliterate something like Yuuka/Marisa/Patchouli, she completely destroys it.

OP. that's like asking why Eirin keeps Reisen around, or why Toyosatomimi keeps Soga around, or why Satori puts up with Koishi.

>>9768020
Think about it: every other extra stage 2hu would have something to make them immune to Flandre's bullshit (Suwako and digging, Mokou and immortality, Yukari and gaps, Koishi and invisibility, Nue and changing forms, Mamizou and her illusion bullshit), and then they are too old and cunning to lose to her otherwise. Flandre might be stronger than Nue or Mamizou, in terms of raw strength, but strength alone doesn't win you fights (which is why Marisa and Reimu are nigh undefeatable).

So much fucking fanon itt

>>>/vg/

>>9768067
Koishi's power renders her someone you can not really consciously recognize, but the rest of them are still vulnerable to it. Though on Mokou, I was wondering how it would react to the Hourai Elixer

>>9768080
I'm not sure she's capable of dying to Flandre if she's not capable of dying to Yuyuko. Or you know, eternal death.

Given how Suwako fights in UNL, she probably could burrow under Flandre and then Mishaguiji her into submission.

Yukari doesn't even have to outright fight Flandre. She can just run her over with trains and shit.

Mamizou isn't 100% protected from Flandre's power (well, no one is, really), but she can make it damn well near impossible to target her.

I'd imagine Nue is impervious to obliteration while doing her shapeshifting routine.

>>9768097
Yuyuko's power operates on an entirely seperate level than Flandre's, though. She invites death to the target, and I do believe it was mentioned not to work on some people like Yukari either, which suggests it can be resisted. Flandre's ability is not to kill, it is to destroy, which is not the same thing. And they could all beat each other easily enough, yes, the main difference though was that Flandre only needs one shot, on anything, but even without her power she can hurt, and she does have a pretty big weapon.. No idea why Nue would be protected while shapeshifting though.

>>9768078
Touhou Project is to be discussed on /jp/

>>9768110
Well, Nue in her Nue form would be like a man in a tank. The actual beast is several times larger than our little loli Nue, and she can't actually grow in size, meaning that she wouldn't be targetted; the seed of identification would.

Yuyuko can just straight up kill a bitch (assuming they AREN'T immortal) and then manipulate their ghost (as is her second half of the ability), she just doesn't like doing it at all.

>>9768034
Sakuya doesn't her her watch to stop time. She uses it to keep track of time.

>>9768165
Doesn't use her watch*

>>9766508
Now it's all clear. She has a glass eye!

>>9767661
>She can destroy anything she can see

In other words, it takes one Mystia to bring her down.

>>9768418
Or Cirno, or Rumia, or Wriggle, or Letty (blizzards). Hell, Flandre doesn't seem all that scary at all now.

>>9768418
>>9768424
Anybody can beat anybody, theoretically. Even Cirno could really be the strongest in the right situation. No, the point was that when she can't see, you ask the same question you apply to everyone else from the start, if she can destroy it. When she can see it, the if goes away.

>>9768436
Cirno in a torrential rain can beat all other touhous at danmaku.

>>9768418
> In Perfect Memento in Strict Sense
 is stated that when Flandre destroy the "eye" of something or someone, she actually erases the existence of the thing (breaks) or person (kills).
While it is a matter of course, she has the destructive power of oni  and the nimbleness of tengu, as well as a vampire's bodily and regenerative ability. She somehow exceeds even her older sister Remilia Scarlet.

She don`t have to see her target, she can see the" eye" of a thing or a person. This eye could be called "heart" or core of every being. If she destroy it she kills or destroys the holder if that "eye"

>>9768482
>he has the destructive power of oni and the nimbleness of tengu
I can't buy that.

>>9768495
I think those are methapers for the strength and agility of vampirs. You shouldn't take it to serious

>>9768523
Aren't vampires supposed to be lunarian inventions? If I got it right, they're physically the strongest paranormal entities.

>>9768418
You're forgetting Laevateinn. Some fried night sparrow might be tasty.

>>9768495
>Perfect Memento: Flandre Scarlet
Ability: Destruction of anything and everything
It's a truly frightening ability with no real weaknesses.

She blew up a fucking meteor without breaking a sweat.

>>9768574
That has nothing to do with the post you quoted.

>>9768560
Can't hit what she can't see.

It's sad that a thread about friendship turned into who can kill who.

>>9768621
Sounds pretty par for the course for /jp/.

>>9765856
Because Remilia wanted a friend, and she didn't have any. Little sister and servants aren't the same.

>It's not the 'title' of the Lady of the Scarlet Devil Mansion that I made friends with.

Awww...

>>9768642
simply that. they even call each other patchy and remi

>>9768615
That post said he can't buy that she has the power of an oni and the speed of a tengu, her ability is to destroy EVERYTHING so clearly she's considerably stronger than an oni.

>>9768730
That's different. I was calling bullshit on her having the PHYSICAL destructive strength of an oni, which is what the original post clearly meant. Flandre can't casually juggle mountains.

>>9768753
Well it's also sated she has 'the usual superhuman strength attributed to vampires.' Not to mention Laevateiin is a particularly useful weapon.

She keeps her, because patchy is the only one who can suppress flandre

>>9768786
Patchy can't suppress Flandre. That was the whole plot of the Extra stage. She could barely contain her in the mansion, and only indirectly, by summoning rain to surround the place.