/jp/ - Otaku Culture

this

Living it.

Running around in figure eights.

>>/a/

As little as possible.

>>>/a/

Enjoyeeing it.

>>9423426
>implying /a/ because no 2hu pic.

Never change /jp/

>>9423401
>>9423466
reported for bloggin shit.
Use these.
>>>/soc/
>>>/b/
>>>/adv/
>>>/r9k/

>>9423416

who NEET here

>>9423495
Damn it Buttersafe, why do you give me so many feels?

>>9423483

More than most people.

The internet is a fountain of knowledge and happiness. I intend to consume every drop of it before I die.

Languages, information about every topic you could ever dream of, the resources to learn any skill you could ever want to learn, and all of this is free! What more could a person want?

I have the wealth of all of humanity's collective knowledge right in front of me and I can access any of it at any time. The thought alone makes me euphoric.

>>9423528
This. We're in a modern Library of Alexandria just by sitting in our own bedrooms. Millions of scholars would have killed for the opportunity, and now we're here.

We also have porn and cartoons, which are a bonus.

>>9423528
And the thought alone is all it will ever be. You're likely to lack the motivation to do anything with it.

>>9423541
So he eschews becoming a genius and helping the world in favour of doing what he loves best. That's actually admirable.

>>9423540
>>9423528
...

>>9423541
Can't speak for him but that's pretty much what it boils down to. I aquire all this shit I dont really need and when I finally have it the only thing I have motivation to do is sleep.

>>9423528
>>9423540
The internet lacks tons of books. Specially in their original language.
It's a pity, we have this HUGE resource and we're using it for MEMES ROFLMAO.

>>9423519

What a disgusting image. Did /pol/ or /soc/ make that? Defining your worth by the price of your possessions or how much money you make is pathetic. What worthwhile things can you do with this money when all knowledge in the world is completely free? It's like some old man that spent his whole life being fed that "American Dream" nonsense edited an image and threw in some of his words of wisdom.

Let's take another look at the top regrets of the dying.

>1. I wish I'd had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
>2. I wish I hadn't worked so hard.

>A palliative nurse who has counselled the dying in their last days has revealed the most common regrets we have at the end of our lives. And among the top, from men in particular, is 'I wish I hadn't worked so hard'.

>>9423558
And 2hus. Dont forget 2hus.

>>9423569
2hus are cool.

>>9423528
Most of the information is corrupted or soon will be.

Only way to find truth is to test it. For which you might not even have knowledge enough. And what are you even going to do when you are supine.

>>9423541

>You're likely to lack the motivation to do anything with it.

No one lacks motivation for the things they love though.

You do what you want to do. Unless you suffer from clinical depression, then if there's something that you're not motivated to do and you feel that you should be doing it then you only feel this way because you're being pressured by someone else to do it.

Take me for example. Parents always wanted me to become an engineer, my father was an electrical engineer, could have gotten me a decent paying job, but I have no interest in it. Tried a bit of schooling, completely hated it, and I dropped out. I was interested in learning Japanese though and I was interested in learning how to play the instruments I owned. Both goals completed within three years of starting them. No motivation required because I wanted to do it, I wanted to learn about something I enjoyed. Do you need motivation to play a video game? You want to do it, so you do it.

>>9423567
I can agree that working hard is a terribly regrettable thing. Especially when you damage your body doing it.
Also, working fast is far more fun than working hard.

>>9423583
I think there is quite a large percentage here with a clinical depression.
I for one don't play video games just because I want to.
Of course, I don't really want to do anything anymore, so that's a rather shaky point.

>>9423541

>lack the motivation

What century are you living in?
It's 2012. Doctors sell motivation in pill form now.

>>9423558
You're just looking in the wrong places. Museums digitize old books, they end up on Gutenberg or archive.org (or--ugh--Google Books).

For non-public domain stuff, there's #bookz and Library Genesis and what have you. Of course, library.nu was the best source for textbooks, but you can find most of them elsewhere.

Of course, you won't find Anonymousphales' treatise on the movement of planets, but we already know that better so who gives a shit.

>>9423528
An insatiable curiosity and a massive wellspring to feed it, one of many reasons to say this is one of the luckiest ages to live in, before its fully censored and after its had time to gain momentum.

Even the nihilism of losing all that I have acquired isn't enough to stop consuming what is this veritable compendium plus what can be inferred as a result of the learning.

I'm done with the unbelievably corny posting now.

>>9423616
>I'm done with the unbelievably corny posting now.

Hopefully you'll be done with the unbelievably corny way of thinking and writing once you've finished puberty.

when you'll find a girl...

>>9423615
Find the Entire works of Cioran, Fuentes, Ortega y Gasset, and the latest publications of unis around the world and I'll believe you.

>>9423628
Sad part being that I'm likely older and more mature than you too.

Don't worry kiddo, I fap to my share of pictures too, I just spend the rest of it learning interesting things rather than be pointlessly depressed about how little I do.

>>9423612

>I think there is quite a large percentage here with a clinical depression.

Can you obtain medication for this? Anti-depressants, stimulants, etc. There's other options too if none of the medications work.

For example, my uncle was easily the most depressed man I have ever seen. He made everyone on /jp/ look like a bundle of sunshine and happiness. He was so severely depressed that almost 100% of his life was spent sleeping or in a catatonic state. He tried every depression medication and none of them did a thing, but they brought him in for electroconvulsive therapy and pretty much overnight he became so happy and motivated and he has been fine since.

Just that people are capable of posting on /jp/ shows that they're not that depressed since my uncle wouldn't even get out of bed or communicate in anyway, so there's plenty of options for all of you if you want to be happier.

>>9423641
being unable to do anything but sit in your bedroom and ignore real life all day is not a far cry from staying in bed all day

>>9423655
Actually, I think it is.

Doing enough to get by.

>>9423641
Sure I can get medication for this.

I currently have an appointment with the fourth doctor I am trying out for this.
Not that the previous doctors really failed. But you need at least a certain amount of discipline to take the pills regularly.

Hm. I think the first medication attempt was 2006, but I can't be sure.

I need to cut my toenails, but the clippers are in a room where I saw a big spider the other day.

>>9423665
i'd say that the people here and the uncle probably have similar levels of sadness(generally speaking) but the difference is that the people here and the uncle have different ways of blocking it out. if anything the uncle is probably just less efficient at being depressed

>>9423693
I love big spiders. It's the small ones that get me.

>>9423704

>>9423655

>being unable to do anything but sit in your bedroom and ignore real life all day

I do the same exact thing, but I'm extremely happy. I haven't left my house in maybe five months and that was just for a funeral. I haven't left my home to do any actual socialization since I was last at school and that was I guess almost six years now.

I used to be depressed too, probably not as severely as some people on /jp/, but I think there's two types of depression. You're either depressed for no reason at all and you can't help it, then maybe you need some sort of medication, or you're depressed because you feel there's something wrong with your life.

Personally I felt depressed because I still felt loneliness and I wanted some kind of real life socialization, maybe a relationship or friends. I didn't have any motivation to do things, not even play the games that I wanted to play, I just sat around on the internet or slept. Lasted about a year, but one day I woke up and I realized that I have so many amazingly fun things just sitting around me and I'm barely using them. Immediately started learning with the internet, I began to meditate and this completely rid me of what was left of my feelings of loneliness and within three years I was able to play untranslated games and I had become proficient in piano, guitar, and saxophone.

There's just nothing to feel depressed about with this lifestyle when there's so many things to love about it.

>>9423711
that's scary as hell

>>9423711
>>9423715
Humanoid is just awkward. Something like this is cool.

>>9423711
>>9423715
>somebody actually made this
>other people probably masturbate to it

>>9423739
can you redirect me to who you're quoting

>>9423689

Which pills were you taking that didn't work? Honestly, I think that stimulants are one of the most effective treatments for depression. I don't know why doctors don't commonly prescribe this. SSRIs are the most common antidepressant around now and a good number of studies show they're barely more effective than placebos and yet doctors push this stuff out like it's a miracle pill.

Decades ago they were actually using stimulants as the first-line in depression treatment and it was nearly 100% effective for every patient, but now they drop it for this trash? It's so frustrating to see people suffering and then they get offered some garbage like Paxil or Zoloft and just get a bunch of side effects and no relief, all while the doctor has a perfectly effective medication that he mostly will only prescribe to hyper children and college students.

I would bet everything I own that a mild stimulant that's fairly smooth and doesn't have many side effects like dexedrine or even adderall (dexedrine would be better, less side effects and smoother) would cure the vast majority of /jp/.

>>9423760
I did not say the pills failed. I said I lacked the discipline to take them on a regular basis.

>>9423766

>I said I lacked the discipline to take them on a regular basis.

That's the thing though. I'm assuming it was because the pills take a long time to build up in your system before you get any noticeable effect, right?

One of the biggest problems with SSRIs or other commonly prescribed anti-depressants. Have to take them multiple times each day for months on the off-chance that you will feel some subtle improvement. Anyone might have trouble keeping up dedication to take something like that.

Stimulants though, your depression would be immediately and fully treated within an hour of taking one pill.

>>9423739
Probably? What are you talking about? I just did.

Also, who are you quoting?

>>9423412
Someone explain the "Finish" things.

>>9423818
The Fins are taking over her room.

>>9423719
love you.
to thinkk that someone on /jp/ found a way to use his time, instead of bashing himself for abundance of it

>>9423818
i guess she cant get out before she finishes her game

>>9423842
then she finds another. and another.
then there's 4chan.

that artist is pretty deep.
almost all of his works have a meaning

みんなが待ってるゴールはどこだ
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=25647141

>>9423818
They are like those line things they put at the end of marathons. She puts them there because she likes winning a lot, you see.

>>9423818
They're like the end goals of her current life. It will end as she knows it if she uses any of those things.

>>9423863
what goal does the finish line on the waste basket represent?

>>9423881
clean up room

>>9423842
Isn't there another "Finish" banner in front of her monitor?

>>9423881
she knows she needs to empty it, but the game is too captivating.

>>9423916
it's on the bed.
perspective.

>>9423919
No, I'm talking about a different one. You can only see the end-bits on either side of the monitor.

>>9423927
another mindfuck.
that finish tape she took off when she woke up.
you can notice, it's not pinned down.
story of my life

>>9423412

This image describes the plight of the average Japanese youth.

They want to have fun and enjoy life, but they live in a culture where their domineering parents constantly push them down a road towards financial and social success. They are constantly told to "finish" their work, "finish" their studies. Endlessly pushed in every direction from after-school tutors to midnight cram sessions so they can score high on their tests so they can go to a more prestigious school with harder tests and score high on them so they can eventually get a high paying job and have social status and ultimately their parents can say that they have a successful child which furthers their own social status.

The entire country is obsessed with success and status and they force it upon their children. It's disgusting, I've seen the stress that some of these kids are put under. I'm surprised more of Japan hasn't either stroked out or jumped off buildings.

>>9424001
So, about that finish marker on her window. Are her parents intentionally forcing that on her?

>>9423609
Can you make an Uncle Remus style guide to doctor shopping?

I want stims but don't know anyone who sells them.

Adderall adds NOTHING to your motivation. Only to your concentration. Taking it won't change anything if you aren't actually willing to do shit.

>>9424011

It's the only way for her to permanently "finish" and escape the torture. Jumping out of buildings is a common form of suicide in Japan, especially for stressed people.

>>9424023
Well, I end up starting things often only to drift away shortly afterwards. What about that?

>>9424011
it means she didn't even bother to look outside
>>9424001
that's the goals she made for herself.
but she only managed to get to pc finish tape

>>9424023

>Only to your concentration.

How much were you taking?

This only applies to very small doses like 10mg or to people who actually have ADHD. If you don't really have ADHD (most people who take adderall) then you get spun out on doses that will make an ADHD person just feel normal and you will have motivation in the form of being able to literally lock on and get absorbed in even the most mundane things.

I know this firsthand because I'm on it right now. You get completely absorbed in the things you do and the moodlift that you get from amphetamines propels you out of that lethargic state of depression.

Before I started taking amphetamines I didn't do shit. I wanted to learn stuff or do things, like most people here I wanted to learn japanese, but I had learned maybe five hiragana characters at the most over the course of years since I just couldn't get the motivation to do it.

Look at me now though. Here's an example from when I first started it a long time ago. I took about 20mg of IR adderall, kicked in an hour later, I plopped myself down in front of anki, and I burned through that deck like it was the most interesting in the entire world. Hiragana and Katakana completely memorized within a day because I did it non-stop for nine hours and only stopped when I needed to take the second dose, get food, or take a piss.

I wasn't forcing myself to do it. I wanted to do it because it felt like the most interesting in the world. Before I would have just stared at anki for a couple minutes and then go back to doing nothing.

It doesn't matter what you do or don't do. Everybody is going in the same direction anyway. Getting ahead of people is like fighting to be at the front of the queue to get on a train, when everyone leaves the station at the same time, and arrives at the same time at the same place. We're all going to die, and we were all born to die. We always have and always will be part of the Universe, and play out our intended roles the way we were destined to. None of it matters. Being remembered by nobody is exactly the same as having statues made of you and being famous for 10,000 years. The Universe has no ego and doesn't care about what you did or did not achieve. The Earth will be destroyed and so will our history. Just like every other planet in the Universe.

Inb4 do you even lift?

How does it feel to know that no matter how much weight you lift, how much you starve yourself of carbs, or how many girls you get rejected from or how many goals you scored, you will still have ultimately achieved the same thing as the most dire floor-shitting Wizard on /jp/? Even your waifu will die. Even Gensokyo will die. Everything dies except the simple fact that it is all part of the Universe, always has been and always will be.

>>9424106
I don't believe that contradicts what he's saying at all. You had the motivation to do it before, just not the concentration to continue. Am I wrong?

>>9424118

Does this really make some people sad? I've heard it a lot.

It's nothing to get depressed about. Do you watch a movie in constant anticipation, excitedly waiting for those credits to roll down the screen during the last five minutes? Of course not.

Life is like a movie in a very similar way. It's not about who you are or how many accomplishments you've tallied up by the time you drop dead. None of that shit matters. It's about how much you enjoyed the time you had while you were still alive. You don't read books to see the last page, you don't watch movies to see the credits, and you don't spend your life waiting to die.

When the movie is over then that's it, nothing more will happen, same with a book, and same with life, but you still read books and you still watch movies because the experience of enjoying everything before it ends is the whole point.

Nothing lasts forever and you will eventually die, but to get depressed about this makes no sense at all. It's like someone saying, "I don't have any free time. I don't have any time to do fun stuff" as he sits there, during in his freetime, while complaining about how he doesn't have any time to do stuff. He's throwing away the very thing that he's complaining about not having as he complains about it.

Yes, you are going to die. Go have fun before that happens.

>>9424118
why should you care about the universe or the other people?
just enjoy.

>>9424106
>>9424183
I want what this guy is on. He seems to have a lot on his mind while being happy.

>>9424118
and this is why we should stop caring about artificial goals and just have fun with the only life we have.

>>9424183
It probably bothers a lot of people. I just used Bawson because I thought it was suitable.

>>9424137

>You had the motivation to do it before, just not the concentration to continue. Am I wrong?

I guess it depends on what you consider motivation and concentration to be.

For me, I've always thought of motivation as the lack of energy to start and continue doing the things that you want to do. I've always thought of concentration as just how focused your mind is on the task at hand.

If you're motivated to do something and you can get into it and get real excited about doing it, but your mind is wandering off as you do it and you just can't focus on it then I see that as a lack of concentration. If you have something you want to do, but you just sit there, procrastinate, and you can't even find the motivation to get up and start it, not because you don't want to do it but because you just feel lethargic, then that's a motivation issue.

If there's something that you don't want to do, but for some reason you think that you should do it then there's nothing in the world that's going to make you want to do it because you have no reason to give a shit. Adderall will give me the motivation and energy to enjoy difficult or boring tasks which eventually lead to something that I've really want, like learning japanese so I was able to play untranslated games, but adderall won't make me love learning Spanish because I don't give a shit about knowing how to speak Spanish and I would gain nothing from it.

The meaning of life is to do what you enjoy, so I think I'm doing a pretty good job!

I wish I was a girl. I would love to experience pregnancy. It sounds cute. But I don't like the idea of raising kids so I would sell them to fund my neet. I would keep gettng pregnant over and over until I become rich. Being a neet is great.

>>9424235
Many people actually enjoy achieving things and not everyone is content with spending their days playing touhou and browsing /jp/.

I wish I had the ambition and willpower I used to have back in the day. I'd go to university and study biotechnology like I've always wanted to, but alas.

Obaa-chan, was it cute when you squeezed out a baby the size of a water melon from your uterus? Uguu~

Grinding the days away, waiting for the apocalypse while trying to enjoy my life somewhat.

>>9423857
I like the analogy with the books.

>>9424201
get some adderall d00d

>>9424302
the comment says:
好みをわかりあえる人なんて、ネットの中にしかいないんじゃねえかってい
う感覚
"an impression that people with matching tastes can be only found on the net"
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=27939316

>>9424283

>Many people actually enjoy achieving things

Everyone enjoys this though. Even play touhou or browsing /jp/ involves many different achievements. Underneath it all though you have the basic goal of attempting to feel as happy as possible in the moments that you have, so right there is an achievement. One day is 86,400 seconds, if you sleep for the average 8 hours and you enjoy every second of your day then you have successfully completed 57,600 achievements in just a single day. That's a lot of achievements for people that most of the world sees as ambitionless NEETs.

Unfortunately though, many people don't think this way and there's too much of a focus on the long-term. Sacrifice the happiness of today so you can make an advancement towards a long-term goal like securing retirement, a successful career, or anything like that. That's not to say that you shouldn't strive for a career, but only if you love the process or the journey of getting to that point. It shouldn't be a sacrifice, every moment of your career should be a labor of love and if it isn't then maybe you're not doing the right thing.

(Field too long, one sec)

>>9424406

(continued)

I hear so many people talk about college and they only ever mention the hypothetical salary or possible job position that they will get at the end of this and they never seem to mention how much they loved today's class or how studying this was so much fun for them. It's as if the whole process of selecting a degree, learning about it, and eventually getting the job is just this awful tortuous obstacle in the way of their 100k salary. At the end of it all though, they will have sacrificed years of their life doing things that they didn't really like so that they could have a lot of money, never realizing that happiness isn't something that you can buy and it's actually something that can be experienced in each and every moment of your life by doing the things that you love.

Either way though, if learning about biotechnology makes you happy then why don't you learn about it? If it doesn't make you happy though then why do you want to learn about it?

>>9424118

CRAWWWWWWWLIN' IN MY SKIIIIN! Go kill yourself Linkin Faggot. Imma rock out with my cock out before I die!

>>9423857
Why isn't pixiv loading any pics for me?

>>9424614
Works on my machine™, dude.

>>9424013

>Can you make an Uncle Remus style guide to doctor shopping?

Sure, I have a few tips from when I was looking around for a doctor that throws out pills like he owns a candy store. This is largely based on the U.S though, I can't guarantee that any of this will work outside of the U.S. I know I've heard that the UK has some pretty strict rules about amphetamines and they rarely prescribe them.

First thing you got to do is figure out what you're going to say. Whatever you do though, don't give any indication of depression. Stimulants are one of the best treatments for depression, but they're more likely to throw you on some useless shit. Stick to symptoms like, "I have trouble focusing on my studies. I'm behind on things that I need to do and I can't concentrate at all. When I try to read things my mind wanders off and I always lose track of what I'm reading." Just things like that. Don't mention that you feel lethargic or anything that would make you look like you're anything less than a regular ADHD college aged student that is having trouble studying.

For the most part though, once you find the right doctor then most of this preparation won't need to be used. When I found the right doctor I just said that I was having trouble focusing, he practically cut me off mid-sentence, wrote me out an amphetamine prescription, and I was out in 10 minutes. My doctor gives me more than I can handle. He's got me on around 60mg a day and I'm cutting up my pills since that's way too much for me. I have entire bottles of extra amphetamines since I just couldn't use it all.

That's the kind of doctor you should be looking for. If they're a thorough doctor who seems to care about their job and they ask you a lot of questions then they're probably not very free with the good pills.

>>9424661

This last bit is very important. Do not go to a psychiatrist for stimulants. It's basically their job to make everything take as long as it possible and make you jump through as many hoops as they can so they can drain your money out of you. Regular doctors want you in and out so they can give some pills and get to the next patient.

Family doctors / general practitioner doctors are the best types for stims. These guys throw out adderall like candy to every hyper kid with an overly concerned parent so tossing you a stim prescription will just be doing what they've been doing to most of their other patients all day.

>>9424183
Living a hedonistic life style may be enough for you but you can't assume the same is true for everyone.

You're completely on your own if you want something more than that.

don't call me "anon", you /a/ subhuman.

>>9424614
noscript? no?
try another browser.

>>9424681
all life is hedonistic.
the question is, is it direct and indirect one.

>>9424666

Also, one more thing.

If he prescribes you adderall, but it looks like this then go back in a month and say that it's working great, but it lasts too long and it's giving you insomnia. He'll put you on IRs.

Adderall that comes in capsules (XR) is really shitty. It's extended release, but all that really means is that it releases half the amount to you and gives you the other half later so it feels weak. The adderall which is just a regular pill is instant release (IR) and that adderall is much more potent because it kicks in right away at full strength and stays at full strength, while the XR gradually builds up and tapers down at such a slow rate that you don't feel as much of it and it keeps you up all night.

>>9424661
Are you the same guy who wrote the Uncle Remus guide?

>>9424718

this poster actually knows what hes talking about.

same thing to say if he gives you vyvanse or any other xr (the 70mg has about as much of the useful stuff in it as a 30mg ir of adderall)

>>9424718

It would likely be possible to parachute the xr, but ir does much better in not keeping one restless all night.

>>9424681

If you don't live a hedonistic lifestyle though then things like that post will actually make you depressed and for good reason because you've based your entire life around believing that it has some inherent purpose or meaning, or futilely trying to make a mark on the world so you can be remembered forever, or trying to do something important and meaningful with your life when all three of those things are impossible.

If you can't go with hedonism and be happy with your own personal goals that you make for yourself then you either have to really buckle down and find a way to delude yourself enough to become religious for the rest of your life or you're going to fall into some existential crisis like the post with crying Dawson and get all depressed.

>>9424731

Nope, I'm unfortunately not on autismbux. I've just been sifting through doctors and trying out a bunch of different pills for years.

I can write a guide on how to get an amphetamine or benzo prescription, but that's about it.

Not much, just NEETing it up. But soon I will.

>>9424802

Thank you very much for the Adderall guide.

>>9423401

Thinking about watching Paranoia Agent again.

>>9423548
>hedonism is the most admirable quality in a person
Really, anonymous? Are you sure you don't only find that admirable because it's the same thing you do with your time?

>>9424718
>>9424753
Speaking of parachuting, it is possible to remove the beads, crush them in a place that won't spill the powder, and either snort it (if you are a retard), or put the powder back in the gelcap so it's released instantly.

Of course, I tried this once and those beads are nearly impossible to break.

Thanks for the guide, btw.

>>9424901
Yup.

>>9424901
Wrap the beads in paper then crush it by rolling it with an empty beer bottle. Don't snort it, Eww.

I'm in college just to use his psychological service and to maintain myself occupied, but since I'm not interested anymore in my degree, I'll drop out at the end of the year, and if by that time I haven't made a decision, one out of two things may happen: either I kill myself, or wait another year or so as a NEET to see what happens.

>>9425030
Don't kill yourself, the next Comiket is in a few months.

>>9424901

Have you tried a mortar and pestle for the beads? They're hard to crush, but that worked for me. I only did this a few times though and then I started taking IR so I don't know if there's a better method.

As far as how to take it though, have you tried plugging it? Crush, dissolve in water, and then fill up one of those syringes that don't have needles.

As far as bioavailability and getting the most effectiveness out of your pill that's definitely the way to go. There's a bit of a stigma, squirting adderall up your ass isn't exactly the most pleasant image in the world, but there's really no shame in getting the most out of your pills. So much of the pill is wasted when you just swallow it normally.

Definitely don't snort though. Complete waste. Fucks up your nose, the high is quick but the duration is short. Out of curiosity I tried it one day when I was bored just to see what it was like and my eye was twitching for hours and I was blowing bits of orange shit out of my nose for the rest of the day.

>>9425053

>squirting adderall up your ass

drug people do strange things