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kanji damage is entertaining as HELL. the mnemonics made me know more than 100 kanji.

>>9417717
The mnemonic approach is great, that is why I like Kanji in Mangaland so much, and I also started out with Kanjidamage, but quickly realized it has some problems. It doesn't give me all the meanings and readings of kanji, suggests very few Jukugo and has no examples or practice so I can see how the kanji are actually used... Another problem is the order in which the Kanji are presented, because it's built 100% on radicals and components and does not bother with when the Kanji are normally taught in the Japanese school system or JLPT, nor with the semantic fields, it means you can't get to reading until you are done with the whole thing.

Consider that I only learned 640 Kanji from the two Kanji in Mangaland books, but I can already handle some manga and light novels even without furigana (Azumanga Daioh, HIdamari Sketch, Kino no Tabi...)

>>9417705
There is no good way to learn Kanji, that is why we gave it up long ago

>>9417717
Except some of his definitions are completely accurate and sometimes he leaves some of the readings out. I still use it, but use Jisho and Rikai to double check shit.

>>9417884
>are completely accurate

Meant "aren't"

>>9417717
Kanjidamage is nice, but is unprofessional as fuck.
There is no good way to learn Kanji, just read shit until you get it.

this thread interests me

eroge everyday

>I have tried Kanjidamage and was very disappointed before

Why? It took me 3 months to grind all 1760 kanji off kanjidamage, studying 6-8 hours a day, doing 20 kanji every day, with doing rereviews as much as possible of all the kanji learned to make sure of retention.

After I was done I did grammar for a while and then proceeded to play simple moege/eroge with jparser which I used when needed.

Vocab was never really that much of a problem for me, having seen 230+ days of anime, you could say I picked up alot. Whenever I encountered jukugo that didn't use the usual way of reading it, or when I simply didn't know what it meant, I just added it to my anki deck.

>>9419506
Forgot to add that I grinded kunyomi, onyomi and meaning.

>>9419506
What is jparser?

>>9419767
It's like Rikaichan for browsers but for VNs.

>>9419506
>3 months
>1760 kanji
>20 kanji every day

Are you a computer?

>>9419821
20 kanji in 6-8 hours is pretty pathetic.

>>9419821
All you have to do is memorize one every half hour.

>>9419821
It's nothing really, I was pretty much done with the 20 kanji within 1-2 hours at most. It's grinding them from 1-XXXX that took me 6-8 hours.

I just found a list of kanji somewhere and memorized as many as I could every day. But this method is probably a little too dull for most people.

I bought like 6 or 7 manga from book-off and read them next to a computer, everytime I came acrossed a kanji I didn't know I wrote into into IME and then studied it until I got it. That doesn't mean I memorized them, but I do feel like I atleast bolstered my already known(about 300) by about 300 more in the past month or so. I feel pretty good about that, since I'm not going out of my way to do it and I am having fun at the same time.

>>9419506
I thin k>>9417776 lays out the problems with kanjidamage.
It could be a great tool for someone who is already 6th grade level though, since you can read while studying, and have enough knowledge to properly use tools like Jisho to better understand the context in which the kanji are used.

>>9420711
So what software should I use to learn kanji? I'm a beginner.

>>9420719
If I knew I wouldn't have opened this thread, Kani in Mangaland worked really well for me, uses mnemonics and drawings like Kanjidamage to help you learn kanji, offers lots of Jukugo, has exercises, and goes by grade school order, which means you can get into reading really quickly. Sadly, it only goes up to 4th grade (640 kanji) as the third book hasn't been released yet, which means I too am still looking for an alternative.

>>9420746
Maybe Heisig would work? Or just straight up drawing kanji.

>>9420755
I hate Heisig, you don't learn reading, jukugo, context, or anything really, it's like trying to fool yourself by giving each drawing a word in English.
I am probably going to just go with Kanjidamage with japanese grade order while checking everything in Jisho, as I see no other good alternative.

>>9420769
It's not a bad idea. I actually do that, but most of the times I just look up the meaning on kanji damage.

>>9420769
If I were you, I wouldn't even bother with any method for learning kanji. Try to read something and learn the kanji that you don't know.

haha that pun is great, I was at a mahjong parlor a week ago and I wish I would have known about it.

While I'm here, I'm recommending the manga of Jinrui Suitai wa Shimashita as reading material - it's mostly written in hiragana and ALL of the kanji have furigana, so it's not very difficult. And it's also a really good manga as well; it's written by Romeo Takahashi.

http://filepost.com/files/4m43e6d4/Jintai_Manga_Yousei_Shimasuka_v01.rar

Um... Any way to get Kanji in Mangaland online/for download? I've looked around and only found stores selling it both as a book and ebook, and I'm not really willing to pay...

Aren't those Mangaland ones not supposed to be very good? Japanese the manga way is supposed to be the good one, or am i mixing them up?

>>9420957
I have kanji in manga land 1, the rest are Japanese in mangaland, but I haven't even touched the folder ever since I downloaded it

>>9420961
Japanese the Manga Way is only grammar and no vocab though, right?

>>9420978
DL Source?

>>9420997
I'll put in on mediafire...

>>9421014
Dōmo arigatō, anon

workbook
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http://www.mediafire.com/view/?u8bfxi7rugni7x1
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vol 1
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?jjjn5zm6zz4v8bj

still uploading

>>9421100
Words cannot fully express my gratitude. While you were uploading I went up to google's 16th page, finding dead torrents and PDF previews. Once again, thank you.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?qer4hb0343md7lh

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?zcd7fnl7ixjyr90

file size for the kanji book is to large

>>9421100
>>9421198
Thanks, anon-kun.

>>9421198
Split it with WinRAR?

>>9421223

ok

>>9421260
Thanks for your kindness, anon. Here, have Seiga riding Yoshika.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ctzbi2ej3s828tu

http://www.mediafire.com/?5lk37x3idx9e4k5

http://www.mediafire.com/?oonsbv25g4gpuq1

>>9421470
Blessings upon you.

>>9421470
Thank you very much, anon-san!

>>9421470

どうもありがとう。

Do you have part two?

>>9421526

Volume 2*

>>9421526
Pretty sure he said he only had volume 1.
See >>9420978

>>9421533
>Pretty sure he said he only had volume 1.

>Just finished Kanji in Mangaland 2
But he finished part2?
Hard copy?

>>9421543
Probably different anons. Also might aswell be a hard copy, as those books aren't -that- expensive. I myself wouldn't mind buying if looking for those in my country/importing them wasn't such an ordeal.

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What the fuck, Japan?

>>9421804

I've already gone through about 760 Kanji using Heisigs. I would've switched to Kanjidamage, but I figured I was too far into Heisigs to quit now. What should I do when I'm finally finished with Heisigs?

>>9422153
http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=5322

By the way, is there a way to use Furigana-Inserter without furigana? I know, it sounds strange, but I'm just looking for the "project shit on a blank html page" feature. I get the feeling furigana are holding me back.

>>9421822
Feels good being at a level where I can read that.

Great thread thanks so much for the learning material.