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I'd do it, just so I can be that first model of legend thousands of years later.

>>9140099
>orgasm is not yet available in the current generation
>hurr durr

Eternal life, upgradeable body, reduced physical needs, being the little girl or a hairy lump of stinky flesh?

Gee, I dunno.

>>9140083
get a body i like which is not loli, but loli would be my second choice if it wasn't avaiable because i never cared about orgasm in the first place.

also,
>You can transfer your mind (...) between hardwares
so what's the problem? if i don't like the body i just transfer to another one. if i care about the orgasms stuff, i just wait untill they develop a capable one and transfer myself to that one. there are literally no disadvantages to that deal.

also, most bodies are still better than my current one, loli or not. i would probably agree even if i didn't have much of a choice about what one i get.

>orgasm is not yet available in the current generation

Ohh look, another newfag that just in to becoming a liddwle gurl.

Sounds great, what is the catch?

>>9140083
>propose a deal
>forget the catch
are some sort of Kyuubey or what?

>will not be for the foreseeable future.

In the fleshbags foreseeable future but not eternal living robots. I could get myself upgrades and be more combat efficient and take up a bounty hunter life and travel in space looking for stuff to do and shoot and kill. kind of like Samus.

and sicne i would leave my mortal shell i would no longer be afraid of going into space and face the dangers of what would normally occur in my mortal body.

and if my current model cannot be further upgraded or modefied i could use my bounty money that i earned to get a better one so it would all work out.

If only it was possible though I almost have it all worked out in my head too ;_;

>>9140486
bump so people can respond to this

I already express my sexuality through little girls, no need to take on an unnatural existence.

I'd do it. No body, no hormones, no craving for orgasm.
The real problem is that there will be a time when a limit will be put on hardware so you can no longer transfer to newer models. Or hackers making your life hell. You will have to stay away from powerful magnets and shit like that because it will now destroy your memory and you. And the whole will it really be you after the transfer or just a machine that gained your memory and experience?

>>9141840
>You will have to stay away from powerful magnets and shit like that because it will now destroy your memory

>Putting your mind in a Magnetic HDD
I seriously hope you lolibots don't do this.

Yes, I don't even care if it wasn't a loli body. That would just be a bonus perk.

YES PLEASE SIGN ME UP!

>>9140113
>Eternal life
The only thing that really is holding humans back is the fact that brain cells don't regenerate and we don't know how to make them to replace them.

A loli body? Don't make me laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ

Sure. Definitely better than the bag of bones we call a body.

>>9140083
I ll do it. For the progress of mankind.

>>9141888
And cancer. You can only live for so long before some wayward cell makes a mistake and ends up ruining your day.

>>9141840
They already have measures against several of these issues.

You ask a question I've given a lot of thought into:
>And the whole will it really be you after the transfer or just a machine that gained your memory and experience?
The answer is yes... and no. It depends on if you think of yourself as an evolving biological machine, or as a system of complex connections between biological components. If it's the former, than transferring your consciousness would just make a map of how you think and perceive. Even if the new housing is unable to evolve, it isn't fundamentally your body in the first place. If you take the latter view - that you're just a map of neuron connections, then each moment of your existence is another death and emergence of a new person, anyway - the biology is just incidental to the map that describes YOU.
Are you your body, or are you an ephemeral cloud that is expressed by the biological components that originally gave birth to your awareness?

>orgasm

Overrated.

Give me my stronger body immune to disease and ageing, please!

>>9141888
Actually, it was recently discovered that brain cells do in fact regenerate. The specific details however, are still unknown.

>>9141923
I prefer to think of myself as the latter. You can clone someone perfectly, give the clone all the memories and experiences that the original had but the original's self awareness or consciousness won't split between those two. The original will still be original and a clone will be a completely new being. This consciousness be it a soul or just a chemical reaction in your brain, will it transfer with the rest of your memories into hardware like in GitS as a ghost, or will it die and you're just killing yourself while giving life to your copy. That is what puzzles me.

Hell yes, I'd love to become an immortal machine that requires no food or sleep! I wouldn't download the orgasm patch even when they do come out with it, it seems like it would be nothing but an inconvenience.

who cares about orgasming if I have video games.

I'm paranoid about this hypothetical question. If I download the information in my brain, does that mean that I die and the download is just a copy? I don't think I'm willing to take the risk. To make it worse, after the transfer I wouldn't even be able to tell if I was alive or not.

>>9141916
>day
More like your entire life.

>>9141923
What if they transfer all of "you" but you yourself dont go with it? The actual you would just end there and die with the robot will be "you" but you yourself never transferred over. There is no way to tell if that would happen or not because the robot that got transferred would think and act like you but would never know if it is actually yourself that is in it or not.

>>9141970
Shit you beat me to it. This is exactly what I was thinking and I dont think it will work out. If/when we are able to do this we may never know if this occurs or not.

>>9141970
You can bypass that dilemma by transforming/uploading yourself piecemeal, Ship of Theseus style. Thus, there would be a time where you're 99% your old self and 1% little girl, a time where you're 50% of both and a time where you shed your last biological components and become the ultimate form of existence that is a little girl robot.

>>9142007
I've been thinking about this as well, the same goes for teleporters in say, Star Trek.

You die and a copy of you thinks it's you.

>>9142111
The future is a terrible place taunting us with such wonderful things. We have to work towards worm hole teleportation rather than energy transfer teleportation. Yukari knows best.

>>9142111
nice trips

>>9142111
but even the atoms, skin, bones and other cells in your body were replaced a few times and will be replaced in the future
maybe you are already dead

>>9142216
Don't neurons have a noticeable longer lifespan than things like red blood cells though? I don't think it matters to the brain if the cells in your arm get replaced over and over, as long as the important things in the brain don't do the same.

>>9142085
A gradual modification seems more likely to work than a sudden 100% change, but still we know little about our soul. Does it exist, is it more than just our self awareness, does it continue to live after the death of the body, if yes then what happens to it after and what is keeping it in the body? So until that is known there will be no way to know if the transferred machine is indeed the previous individual or does it just think that it is, due to the memories it received.
There was that experiment with robots using microchips fused with living rat brain tissue. While the braincells were alive, the robots behaved like rats. Never stopping for more than 10 seconds, circling around new objects and so on. But as soon as the braincells died after a week, the robots movements became more efficient and less alive. Were they rats that gained new bodies or machines that gained new hardware and software?
Maybe in the distant future we will conquer biology and manipulating the genes of living beings successfully stopping evolution by becoming shape shifters as well achieving biological immortality as a bonus. that seems like a much better offer.

>>9142216
maybe so

Thank fuck that variety of "cybernetics" is low fantasy scifi. And always will be. The whole notion is bogus according to the kind of math used to describe computers. Ask Google -- no I don't mean google it, sorry, I meant ask them how Google Books is goin' and what challenges they've got.

>>9142337
Do you perhaps have a link to the source of this? From the description, I would say it is a robot that has interference from electrical signals of the neurons. Cultures of cells will still output and accept signals and will even sync with each other, but it is no where near a living brain.

Also, I think that this has become relevant to the topic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula
It may not be a little girl, but it is immortal and jellyfish are somewhat cute.

>>9142337
> but still we know little about our soul.
There's no such thing.
>Does it exist
No.
>is it more than just our self awareness,
Sapience is the word you're looking for. Sapience is more than simple consciousness.
>does it continue to live after the death of the body,
Are you a dualist? Read a fucking book.
>if yes then what happens to it after and what is keeping it in the body?
Souls are fictional. There is absolutely no reason to believe otherwise.

>>9140083
And we have to discuss this because?

How about a scenario where my waifu also exists and there's world peace?

>>9142430
screw off atheshit scum

>>9142430
and how the fuck did you confirm that? humans haven't even settled on a definition of the word strict enough to say that.

Sure, neglect play it's fine too

Why limit myself to a physical body? I'd rather build gigantic server-hosting for all the escapists to live out their fantasies in. (Which includes me, of course.)

>>9141866
get the fuck out

>>9142512
This would be awesome.

>>9142402
Forgot where I read it but there are articles all over, like these :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPiF4-iu6g
http://singularityhub.com/2010/10/06/videos-of-robot-controlled-by-rat-brain-amazing-technology-stil
l-moving-forward/
Thought this could be just the hype from journalists, still an interesting read.

Jellyfish are very interesting. No brain or other visible organs, just a cluster of cells working together, yet it clearly makes decisions.

maybe

I've been dreaming about this for years. I'll make sure I'm part of the first generation of loli cyborgs.

>>9143907
I may not ever see this since I am sageing to avoid bringing an old thread back for no good reason, but thanks for the links.