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9091326 No.9091326[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

So suddenly light novel threads aren't /jp/-related?

http://www.4chan.org/rules#jp
>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual and light novels.

Oh wait, they are.

What's this?
http://www.4chan.org/tmp/janitorapp.php
>Janitors ARE NOT...
>Interpreters: Rules are to be enforced as written. Janitors enforce site policy only. Personal motives should never influence deletion.


Enjoy losing your job, NSJ.

>> No.9091327

First

>> No.9091330
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totally epic thread dude

>> No.9091332

>>9091327
fugg

>> No.9091333
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecveR74MhZA

>> No.9091334

A thread containing actual child porn was up for hours.

Saten thread was deleted in minutes.

Priorities lol

>> No.9091337

>>9091326
>>9091327
samefag buddies

>> No.9091339

I can understand if it was that Saten spammer guy, but some of us just want to have Saten threads.

I feel you, OP.

>> No.9091343

>>9091339
This. What the fuck.

Is anyone else emailing moot?

>> No.9091344
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9091344

>>9081322
>>9088818
>>9090909
>>9090832
>>9090926
>>9086056
Lets talk about /jp/ related threads.

>> No.9091345

>>9091343

i just did.

seriously this is bullshit

>> No.9091347

>>9091344
mad newfriend

>> No.9091348

Keep up the good work, meido. Shitposters are mad.

>> No.9091349

http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/8587462/

Nice Saten thread.
Mod did his job.
People were banned.

Why can't we just have these, meido?

>> No.9091351

she is an anime character and ur postin anime screencaps lol nerds gonna sperg

>> No.9091353
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>>9091344
>Delete LN thread
>Leave this shit.jpg

>> No.9091355

Two ban evaders have posted ITT.

Do they get banned? No.

Does OP? Yes.

The fuck, mods.

>> No.9091358

>>9091355
Seconding.
Get your fucking priorities straight.

>> No.9091362

>>9091355
>>9091358

this is what i don't get.

moe!tron, yama, tokiko, sparky etc. are all posting all the time. they never get banned.

someone tries to have a legit thread and is a little upset about it, they get banned straight away

>> No.9091360

>>9091337
Hah...! Not this time baby...

My first post GET was legit

>> No.9091361

>we want saten threads
There is a board specifically made for you.
It's called >>>/a/

>> No.9091363

>>9091361
>>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual and light novels.
>>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual and light novels.
>>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual and light novels.

>> No.9091364

Why can't these guys have their threads anyway? It's not like one thread is hurting anyone. We have GUST threads. Why not Saten?

>> No.9091365
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>calling NSJ ``meido''
>thinking a personal quality control script makes a janitor
>accepting this behavior
>not emailing moot and telling him about /cgl/ - Otaku Culture
>not keeping your janitor application ambitions in the fridge
>2012
ISHYGDDT

>> No.9091366

>>9091362
So OP is getting banned and evading. You people really don't know how to defend your cause, this is spam.

>>9091363
You're using Light Novel as an excuse, thread is never about the light novels, just posting anime screencaps of Saten.

>> No.9091368

>>9091364
This. If anything, it's good to have more topics to discuss. moot even said he didn't want one topic to swamp the board. Saten is just one more type of thread to keep /jp/ diverse.

>> No.9091369

>>9091361
Not that i really care about the threads but the character and series is LN AND VN material.

>> No.9091370

>>9091363
From what I know light novels doesn't include images, do they?

>> No.9091374

What if the Saten threads contained images only from Pixiv and not anime screencaps...?

>> No.9091371

>Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc.) on the imageboards can result in post deletion and banishment. The administrator will address your questions, comments, complaints, and concerns via e-mail.
>Ban evasion will result in permanent bans—no exceptions. Instead, wait and appeal it!

>> No.9091372

>>9091364

>still using GUST as a comparison

We have 'how do you deal with crushing loneliness threads' that supposed to belong on r9k, why not LN threads?

>> No.9091373

>>9091362
>they never get banned

have you ever heard of a dyhamic IP?

>> No.9091375
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>>9091370
You some sort of stupid.jpg?
2 Seconds on google.

>> No.9091376

>>9091374
NSJ wouldn't care.

>> No.9091377

>>9091370
They have some, I think. I haven't read any though, so whatever.

>> No.9091378

>>9091366
>You people really don't know how to defend your cause, this is spam.
What would you suggest? I've personally emailed moot a bunch of times. In fact I've spoken to him directly on AIM and he said he didn't "remember" my emails. I doubt he reads them. Direct stuff on the board or talking to mods is and always has been the best way to deal with things. We need to show the staff people want these threads and they're fine.

>You're using Light Novel as an excuse, thread is never about the light novels, just posting anime screencaps of Saten.
We're discussing a character who has an anime adaptation. It's going to come into it. This goes for Fate/Stay Night, Touhou, or anything you could care to discuss. And there people actually discuss the anime itself. We just post screencaps because it's another form of art. In fact many screencaps are on the boorus.

>> No.9091379

>>9091373
Ever heard of a tripban?


Neither do the mods.

>> No.9091380

saten spergsluts are the worst shitposters of this board

>> No.9091382

>>9091373
They could at least keep banning them in the same way the janitor keeps deleting threads. They might even exhaust IP addresses.

>> No.9091383

>>9091380
NSJ go to hell.

>> No.9091385

>>9091379
I think only admins (i.e. moot and Mr VacBob-sama) can do that. The back end is awful, they're still using FutabaWhatever written by W.T. Snacks. There's no way for mods to do shit.

Add ban cookies. You'd keep 50% of ban evaders out longer right there.

>> No.9091392

>>9091374
They have done before. Still deleted.

Sometimes we even have good threads and Team 4chan does its job:
http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/8587462

>> No.9091387

If Yama's isp was banned then this website would be a better place. He lives in Brazil and everyone hates those shitty BRs.

>> No.9091388

Its always funny how all sorts of shitty spam and "which 2hu fuck" threads are okay but a LN/VN character discussion is not.

This applies for more than just Saten threads.

>> No.9091389

http://www.4chan.org/rules#global
>Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc.) on the imageboards can result in post deletion and banishment. The administrator will address your questions, comments, complaints, and concerns via e-mail.

>No spamming or flooding of any kind.

enjoy your b& xD

>> No.9091394

You guys are a fucking riot.

>> No.9091398

If everyone wanted a thread about hitler and argued that he appeared in a VN would he still be accepted as a topic of discussion?
Answer: no

>> No.9091399

I think the amount of support/discussion ITT shows that Saten threads are popular.

Look at how many people are defending them. In under half an hour this got more posts than any Touhou or VN thread has. There's a reason people are posting here instead of one of those.

>> No.9091401

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A56Ch-2UQF4

>> No.9091403

I used to hate Saten, but the more dicks I want to suck, the cuter she gets.

What does this mean?

>> No.9091403,1 [INTERNAL] 

Never a dull moment on /jp/ is there?

>> No.9091409

>>9091403
Did you take an arrow to the knee?

>> No.9091406

>>9091398
Saten is a light novel and a visual novel character who has appeared in doujinshi and doujin games. She has a large fanbase on /jp/.

Reimu is a shmup character who has appeared in doujinshi and doujin games. She has a large fanbase on /jp/.

Why allow the latter but not the former?

>> No.9091407

Lets add a few more
>>9082473
>>9088746
>>9085286
>>9089478
>>9071305
>/jp/ Related threads XDDXDXDXD

>> No.9091408

Just so we're clear here, this is the thread that sparked this wave of autism
http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/9091156/

You can't defend this. Light novels are not the issue here, they're being used as an excuse to continue the campaign of spam that has pervaded this board for years.
No. No Saten. You're already banned, you know moot doesn't reply because you have no leg to stand on, and this only makes it clearer that you're just whiny children trying to force their spam unto the board.

>> No.9091411

I can't believe you guys are still whining about Saten threads being deleted. It's been years. Deal with it.

>> No.9091413

so much butt tears and hurt feelings ITT

>> No.9091414

>>9091408
>You can't defend this. Light novels are not the issue here, they're being used as an excuse to continue the campaign of spam that has pervaded this board for years.

I mentioned light novels in that OP because I wanted to show the janitor she is related, without doing the "FUG U JANITOR ITS RELATED BECAUSE XYZ". I know how Saten threads are treated--I'm not an idiot.

Should we ban Flandre discussion because of flanfly, or Marisa discussion because of touhouhijack.jpg?

In fact, flanfly threads are now allowed.

>> No.9091416
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>>9091409

>> No.9091419

The person who keeps making these threads and all the Saten threads masquerading as LN threads probably has his IP on a special shitlist.

>> No.9091421

I am fine with them but almost 99% of the time people use LN threads as an excuse to post and talk about anime.

>> No.9091422

>>9091385
A workaround is having mods to sit on /jp/ for 16 hours a day, but nooooooo- moot had to get mods/janitors that actually have a life(and don't belong on /jp/). What's the point, then?

>> No.9091423

OP is literally Tokiko.

You are all retarded.

>> No.9091424

>>9091414
>flanfly threads are now allowed
This is the shit right here.
Those threads are NOTHING BUT spam and shitposting. By all means they should be deleted right away.

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>> No.9091430

>>9091425
We fucking wish.jpg

>> No.9091428

>>9091423
Wrong.

­>>9091403 and >>9091416 probably are, though.

>> No.9091432

>>9091428
>Wrong.
You must think we're all retarded.

Which we are, but that's not the point here.

>> No.9091433

>>9091399
meta is the most popular /jp/ topic. And a shitstorm doesn't support your point.

>> No.9091434

>>9091424
I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that even if this was the oh-so-awful spam people are making it out to be, ACTUAL spam is being left on the basis it's related to an on-topic character.

>> No.9091436

>>9091424
You know what? Flanfly threads used to be deleted by its own creator after 5 hours or so. I know since I tried to bump it several times. That's being civil and harmless.

What needs to be banned is the current posters who don't have the same kind of attitude.

>> No.9091437

>>9091421
Exactly. No one ever talks about LNs that don't have anime adaptions.

>>9091424
/jp/ accepts them, thus they are allowed here.

>> No.9091440

Flanfly is a cute meme and staple of board culture.

Only Neo-/jp/ hate Touhou and daily doses.

>> No.9091441

>>9091432
Well given that we posted within the same minute and three post numbers of each other, I think that should add some weight to my argument.

>> No.9091443

Nice that the Nocturnes threads were chased off. Touch wood.

>> No.9091445

/aa/ - Anime
/am/ - Manga & Light Novels
/c/ - Anime/Cute

MAKE THEM HAPPEN M00T

>> No.9091449

In a few hours Tokiko is going to proudly blog about the great big shitstorm he caused in his new blog while parading around his achievement in IRC.

>> No.9091450

>>9091443
touch THIS

*whips out wood*

>> No.9091452

>>9091449
His posts are all getting ignored though. What a fool.

>> No.9091453

>>9091449
I'm not Tokiko, dude.

We posted again, one post number apart.

Unless we did that on purpose oOOooOOooo conspiracy.

>> No.9091459

So nobody remembers when we would literally discuss the Marimite anime (yes, the anime) because it was based on an LN?

>> No.9091460

>>9091452
He's OP, you dense shit.

>>9091453
Kill yourself, Robert Brown.

>> No.9091467

>>9091460
Is the idea that you're Tokiko "astroturfing" again?

Because I'm not Tokiko. I don't even live in the same country.

You should see a doctor. It sounds like you have paranoid personality disorder.

>> No.9091461

To be fair if OP had been allowed to have his one LN character discussion thread the "spammers" would stick to that and enjoy talking about their characters there.

Instead the vendetta against any railgun related LN/VN thread just spreads the shit all over the board.

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>>9091449
I bet you can't crack my tripcode.

>> No.9091469

>>9091465
is this it

>> No.9091472

>>9091461
This. Ar Tonelico effect.

>> No.9091473

>>9091467
>Because I'm not Tokiko. I don't even live in the same country.
It's true, I don't know why people call you Tokiko.

You are Robert Brown, and you live in Astoria, Oregon, and everybody who knows you, including your friends and fellow shitposters, are aware that you are a chronic liar.

>> No.9091474

‘Saten is getting the same treatment Ar Tonelico did. One day she will become accepted.’
　　— Anonymous, 2010

>> No.9091478

>>9091473
Even if I was Tokiko, wouldn't doing this be giving him what he wants? If you're not him yourself, he's probably loling at this now.

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>>9091469
I don't know, dude. I was being sarcastic. Maybe you didn't pick up on that.

Anyone can post with the name Tokiko. Doesn't mean that having the name Tokiko makes you the actual Tokiko.

>> No.9091485

>>9091478
>You're giving me what I want right now.
You were already getting what you wanted.

I'm probably giving you more of it right now.

It can't be helped, since you're a massive attention whore who thrives off any kind of attention, positive or negative.

>> No.9091486

>>9091482
>Maybe you didn't pick up on that.

i didnt

think its called ``poe's law''

you should add a winky face or a lol or a w or something

otherwise ppl will think youre seriouos

>> No.9091487

>>9091461
Pretty much this.
The "spam" would die out on its own over time, but instead the janitor just keeps throwing fuel to the shitposters

It would make things so much easier, because anyone who does not like the thread like the AR:tonelico threads could simply hide it and would never have to see it.
But instead we have to deal with it posted in every other thread

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9091488

Chill out guys... The thread is safe... The oppression is over!!!

>> No.9091488,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091487
"Spam it enough, and it'll be allowed!"
-- Your ideal staff to its userbase

>> No.9091488,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,1
There is already a board for it.

>> No.9091488,3 [INTERNAL] 

I wish I was here for this thread.

>Janitors ARE NOT...
>Interpreters: Rules are to be enforced as written. Janitors enforce site policy only. Personal motives should never influence deletion.

This is a great point. In the other meta-thread, somebody said that the staff is not a bunch of robots, they apply critical thinking skills when deleting posts. But that's wrong. They are to enforce the rules as they are written, as if they were robots. And those rules say that light novels are allowed. If the staff doesn't like it, they should ask moot to change the rules.

>> No.9091488,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,3
The rules also say that spam isn't allowed.

>> No.9091488,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,3
It's not only the janitor(s).

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S9091280

>> No.9091488,6 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,3
All rules require a bit of common sense, though. Look at the Three Laws of Robotics for example. I, Robot wouldn't have happened if those robots weren't so autistic.

Quite a big conundrum in general, really. As a former fa/tg/uy I've taken part in a lot of flame wars about RAW, or "rules as written", the silly idea that in an open-ended roleplaying game you have to take everything completely literally right down to the last letter.

>> No.9091488,7 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,4
So then why does the janitor protect Flanfly threads and sometimes even JBCS? Along with all the half-assed reposted shit quality 2hu copypasta threads like "Patchy has hips"? Saten threads are not spam. Saten threads are not off-topic. The janitor is letting personal motives influence deletion.

>>9091488,5
Moderators need to stay away. They aren't knowledgeable enough to know what belongs here. See: X-Japan bullshit where half the board got banned.

>>9091488,6
Sure, but this is clearly somebody making an exception to ban something they personally don't like. It would be like a DM banning dwarves because s/he thinks they are ugly, or a Magic referee banning green decks because s/he hates that color.

>> No.9091488,8 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,7
>X-Japan bullshit where half the board got banned.
How long was the ban? 7 days, right? 7 days for asking what/who X-Japan was.

>> No.9091488,9 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,7
>It would be like a DM banning dwarves because s/he thinks they are ugly

I'd say that's fine. It's his final say. People have house rules, and you can complain, but they have them.

4chan isn't a democracy. It's a mootocracy. He and his buttbuddies can ban you for zero reason and you just have to deal with it. They've permanently banned entire countries for the hell of it. The rules make it pretty clear the staff can do whatever they want. Fuck all this self-entitlement bullshite. You're not important and you don't matter. Neither do your stupid threads.

>> No.9091488,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,9
Fortunately, moot is a reasonable person, and he won't let his staff turn his website into their own playground.

>> No.9091488,11 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,9
>You're not important and you don't matter. Neither do your stupid threads.
This type of reasoning can't be good.
Like not so long ago when a mod decided to do whatever he (she) wanted and banned posting any underage character on /a/, including Yotsuba. Spam and CP spam ensued. then mods backpedalled and made an "apology".

>> No.9091488,12 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,7
>So then why does the janitor protect Flanfly threads and sometimes even JBCS?
I don't watch closely, but I've never seen this happen outside outside of those times where somebody dumps scat pornography in them.

>>9091488,10
I don't think moot actually cares whether or not somebody deletes the Saten-san megathread.

>> No.9091488,13 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,7
>So then why does the janitor protect Flanfly threads and sometimes even JBCS? Along with all the half-assed reposted shit quality 2hu copypasta threads like "Patchy has hips"?

Because Touhou is /jp/ related. Saten is not.

This really isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

>> No.9091488,14 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,13
𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐧-𝐬𝐚𝐧'𝐬 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓸𝓻𝔂 𝓸𝓯 /𝓳𝓹/ 𝓡𝓮𝓵𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓿𝓲𝓽𝔂
・/jp/ related things should be posted on /jp/
・Light novels are /jp/ related
・Railgun is a light novel (in addition to being a manga & anime)
・The discussion of Railgun entails the discussion of its characters
・Saten is a Railgun character
・Therefore, Saten should be posted on /jp/
𝓠𝓔𝓓

>> No.9091488,15 [INTERNAL] 

* All otaku-related things are welcome in /jp/
* Trains are otaku-related
* Post your trains

>> No.9091488,16 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,15
We've had them before. I think trains are lame as HELL but they were having fun. I didn't shit up their thread, report them, tell them to go elsewhere, say that their one and only thread was spam on a board filled, filled with down-at-the-bottom-of-the-barrel-quality Touhou threads, or otherwise be a complete asshole to them.

If there's an audience for it, then why not? If nobody else was interested in talking about trains, the thread creator would try another board.

>> No.9091488,17 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,16
I don't have a particular interest in seeing train or Saten threads out, but if they're deleted I'm not going to argue about it for months on end.

>If there's an audience for it, then why not?
There's an audience for everything in /jp/, up to and including League of Legends and Diablo III, but allowing these threads to become regular would be retarded.

>> No.9091488,18 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,16
>I didn't shit up their thread, report them, tell them to go elsewhere, say that their one and only thread was spam on a board filled, filled with down-at-the-bottom-of-the-barrel-quality Touhou threads, or otherwise be a complete asshole to them.

You should have, as the thread was clearly off-topic.

That's not even taking into account whether or not the threads were made purely to antagonize the janitor, like these light novel "discussion" threads obviously are.

>> No.9091488,19 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,18

>made purely to antagonize the janitor

Give me a break. If I wanted to antagonize the janitor, I'd be spamming meta threads 24/7.

>> No.9091488,20 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,18
Hey, the train threads are fun. Don't bring trainbros into this. Japan has a lot of neat trains and train otaku. Granted there's /n/ (listed under "Japanese Culture" on the front page) but a few cross-topic threads are nice once in a while. I enjoy the odd bento thread when people make them.

If people used trains for a spamming gimmick or insisted we had them all the time, then I'd join in the reporting and complaining.

>> No.9091488,21 [INTERNAL] 

>>9091488,20
I know, I was just making a point. Seeing as we rarely have train threads, I don't really have a problem with them.

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