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Why hasn't Japan created an artificial solution for loneliness yet?

Love Plus is the best they have and it's not very good. Dakimakuras, onaholes, and things like this satisfy the physical desires, but anything that helps with the emotional need to feel loved is still very unsatisfying.

I cycle through eroge endlessly and I can keep the loneliness at bay as long as I'm actively playing one and I've become attached to the characters, but this is a temporary fix at best.

>> No.8793786

The radiation and korea fear is getting to their heads so they're slowing down on technological advances.

>> No.8793785

Get a girlfriend/boyfriend.

>> No.8793796

They have, it's called 2chan.

Admit it, you post here so that you can connect with people.

BTW, I love you.

>> No.8793803

>>8793796
>2chan
Hey /a/.

>> No.8793805

You know OP, I'd be willing to date you if you're female. If you're male, then sorry, but I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful /jp/ females willing to go out with you.

>> No.8793816

>>8793796
Love you too, buddy.

>> No.8793822

>>8793785

That's disgusting though. Also, even more unreliable.

Humans change their emotions so much. There's no stability, you never know when they will want to jump ship. An artificial replacement would be perfect, even if it was just text based, but what we have is limited and usually linear. Open ended (Love Plus) just means endlessly repeating dialog and while eroge is far more immersive it will still only last about a day or two because of its linear nature.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable though. I'm hardly asking for true AI, just something that is open ended and has a bit more dialog variety. At least enough that I don't have to hear the same exact sentence multiple times each day.

>> No.8793838

>>8793805

>I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful /jp/ females willing to go out with you.

I actually did this once.

Would not recommend unless you want to have your heart ripped apart. Girls from 4chan, especially the few on /jp/, are emotionally unstable. Actually, emotionally unstable is such a huge understatement. If you go with this though then get ready for endless NTR.

>> No.8793840

>>8793776
They're working on it.

ASIMO will handle the motion/personality aspects of an android, wheras a near-perfect resemblance to human skin has already been developed for said androids.

It's only a matter of time, anon.

>> No.8793844

>>8793822
>eroge will only last a day or two.

Holy shit, take it easy. Don't become addicted to VNs/eroge, there isn't enough new material available to feed the addiction.

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>>8793776
They did.

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I get what you mean OP; although the only error I can point out with your argument of people being too varied in their thinking is that some people simply aren't that way. Myself, I literally NEVER get angry or upset, and I always do my best to just enjoy whatever I have now and where I am. Unfortunately, I am male, otherwise I'd say let's chat. Idk how to tell you to find these people, but if you do, well then that's probably the best solution.

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>>8793838
>endless NTR

How typical of 3DPD whores, I am not surprised at all.

>> No.8793864

How do you guys deal with not having any friends?
Do you have online friends? I wish I had one...

>> No.8793869

>>8793864
I'll be your friend, got steam?
Also, I have like my best friend from 4th grade and that is about it; although I do have associates, but not really any other friends. Online, just a few people I consider friends as well.

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8793873

I hate to say it because I know it's usually met with hostility, but tulpas are the answer.

Unlimited dialog because you are essentially talking to your subconscious, shaped into the personality of whatever you want, and eventually can be visible as a fully formed hallucination.

>> No.8793879

>>8793869
I have MSN but I'm too scared to post it here. Sorry.

>> No.8793883

>>8793879
nah it's cool, just don't know any other way to PM you or anything like that.

>> No.8793885

Making friends really isn't that hard. Just be confident in who you are and don't get upset if people think you're odd. This goes for getting girls too.
I'm a huge nerd and I have an attractive girlfriend because I don't give a shit about what people think and it shows.
Just be you self and don't care about it. You don't want to be friends with people that judge you anyway.
I know it's "easier said than done" but you just have to be vigilante and try to always have that mindset.

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People on /jp/ are best when you just talk to them on /jp/.

I've mustered up the courage and contacted a few people from /jp/ in a setting outside of /jp/, but it didn't go well. Most of them are just mean, but one of them pretended to be a girl for two months, talked to me every day, told me that he loved me, and then a month later he told me that he was a man all along and he was just doing this to me for fun.

Never ever again.

>> No.8793890

>>8793864
I had online friends but NEETS tend to fill their meaningless lives with online drama and wangst so I dropped em like its hot.

>> No.8793900
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8793900

why are people so shitty

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8793901

whats wrong with Chinat Sue

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8793906

The solution isn't to satisfy your loneliness. It's to remove the feeling altogether so it doesn't exist in you at all.

>> No.8793907

Are there any channels on rizon where I could.. you know... meet other weird people?

>> No.8793902

>>8793885

Where do you even meet them though?

I have enough pills that I can stop giving a shit if I need to, but I don't even know where to go so I just stay inside all day. I don't want to meet normalfags.

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>>8793906

How do I do that?

>> No.8793915

>>8793883
Thanks for the offer though.
I had a really good online friend for a pretty long time. Then we got into a really stupid argument about 6 months ago and I haven't talked to him ever since.
I feel horrible right now. I want him back in my life.

>> No.8793921

>>8793902
Do you have a job?

>> No.8793920

if you are so lonely, then why don't you have a job? no one wants to be friends with some one who doesn't even want to work at all. you are the scum off the orth.

>> No.8793923

>>8793920
mfw i am the scum off the orth

>> No.8793931

>>8793920
sho ga nai wa ne

>> No.8793936

>>8793915
I've been in a situation like that. I would suggest contacting him.
He probably feels the same way.

>> No.8793940

>>8793920
I have a job and it fucking sucks, I wish I could stay home all day.

>> No.8793942

DMT is the solution to loneliness. At least it was for me.

My story begins about a year ago when I learned about the deep web from one of those threads. I began to explore and I uncovered the Silk Road. I thought it was pretty curious and I was intrigued by how they were openly selling drugs and successfully sending them through the mail, but I had no desire to order anything or try my luck with mail ordered drugs at the moment.

Several months after this I read about DMT and I heard how it can allow you to explore different dimensions and communicate with other beings. I was intrigued and I had already been considering killing myself so I really had nothing to lose and I ordered the DMT and got it about a week later.

I honestly do not know how to put into words what I experienced. I felt like I was literally catapulted out of my bed and into space. After that I entered some sort of dimension that I really can't even put into words and I communicated, not verbally but in a completely indescribable and alien way with some being. I'll try to explain, but it communicated entirely through surges of emotion that it projected into me. It makes no sense when I try to put it into words, but that's how it worked. This exploration of a world so strange that words can't begin to describe it went on for what felt like an eternity and then I was back on my bed.

I'm not sure why, but ever since then I have never felt lonely. It was the most life changing experience I have ever had.

>> No.8793943

I wish I could play video games with /jp/ that doesn't require a lot of time.
I just don't have time.

>> No.8793946

>>8793902
I wait tables at a restaurant, it's a really good place to meet people. Servers are always a little odd. At least the one I work they are. I've made at least three or four people, that are now my good friends now, in the last year. They know I'm "weird" and they don't care. You just need to get out and not get discouraged.

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>mfw my thread turns into a generic so ronery blog thread

>> No.8793954

I wish I had enough willpower to stay off the internet and improve myself.

Sometimes I think having someone in real life could help with this.

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>>8793913
First, you must hate yourself. Hate every fiber of your being. Hate your past, present and future. Your hatred for yourself must be so great that you expand that hatred to those nearest to you. You must hate them too. What reason must you give yourself to have so much meaningless hatred? No reason at all. You just hate.

After a while, your hatred will start to simmer and turn to hard indifference. Soon you will feel nothing for yourself or anyone. Your feelings of loneliness will vanish.

>> No.8793961

>>8793955

B-but I made this thread...

>> No.8793963

4chan helps a lot. a good community on various multiplayer games is fantastic as well.

Other than that, you could always just retreat into your mind and be your own friend.

>> No.8793966

Do you have a friend you can always talk to or a family who will always be there for you, /jp/?

No? Well, that's most probably the problem then.

>> No.8793968

>>8793936
I really don't know about that. I read his twitter from time to time (I don't have twitter, though) and he has alot of good friends. He probably doesn't even remember me. After all, he never talk to me again after that argument we had.
And if I did try to contact him I wouldn't even know what to write. Do I say I'm sorry? Do I pretend nothing happened and just say "Hi, long time no see."?
The reason I'm hesitating is, I don't know what I would do if he were to turn me down or ignore me. I don't think I'd survive that in my current condition.

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>>8793961
Sshh, I'm backing you up!

>> No.8793978

>>8793968
You apologize. Be the bigger person. If he doesn't want anything to do with you after that. Move on. You don't need a friend like that anyway. That's not a friend.

>> No.8793992

>>8793963

>you could always just retreat into your mind and be your own friend.

That sounds most appealing. How do I do this?

>> No.8794005

You guys are really cute. I'd like to date one of you.

>> No.8794011

>>8793992
Don't believe the bullshit about tulpas. They were a spiritual/paranormal idea. I work with adults who suffer from psychosis and schizophrenic disorders, and I can tell you it does not work this way (or at least not in the "real imaginary friend" capacity people seem to think).

>> No.8794010

>>8793992
The tulpa method was already mentioned. Or you could just do meditation.

>> No.8794008

>>8793992
Through practice. Imagine a happy place and meditate. Once you are taking it really easy, ease yourself into the world and maybe a favorite character or your own unique friend. Repeat until you can do it at the snap of a finger, but can still live a normal day.

>> No.8794019

You know that having a job isn't that bad, right? It can let you meet new people or challenge you in new ways, assuming your job isn't total shit. The plus side is that it lets you support the economy and gives you money to spend on things like figs, guns, electronics and nice food. But remember that it is important to always have some time for your self; don't lose yourself in your work.

>> No.8794020

>>8794011

>I work with adults who suffer from psychosis and schizophrenic disorders

Tulpas aren't schizophrenia though. They just seem to be a splitting of your mind.

>> No.8794013

>>8794005
Thanks. One day I hope to find happiness.

>> No.8794025

>>8794005
I wish someday someone who says something like this will actually do something besides make people feel bad and hope that someone will date them.

Stop giving false hope, you bad person

>> No.8794023

>>8794011
I've had a tulpa since before I knew about the stupid little /x/ antics about the idea.

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>>8793960
Based as fuck

>> No.8794035

>>8794023
If this is true and not internet bullshit, phone up your local university and tell them. I'm serious, tell them the process you did and how you mentally constructed a tulpa. This goes against a lot we know about the human mind, and if you can prove it in controlled conditions you could earn a lot of money.

>> No.8794030

>>8793776

They don't need to... pets fill the need just fine.

>> No.8794032

>>8794011
I'm not talking about Tulpas, I am talking more about locking yourself into your own mind instead of willing a fragment out into your natural surroundings.

>> No.8794033

>>8793978
But how would I apologize for some stupid argument we had half a year ago?
How do would I justify not contacting him before?

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>>8793992

1. Find a character you love. It could someone from an anime or eroge or maybe a character you made up yourself. Doesn't really matter.
2. Close your eyes and meditate. Imagine the character and try to visualize them for at least 30-60 minutes each day.
3. Talk to them throughout the day. They won't talk back just yet, but that's not a big deal. Just narrate your day to them.

Keep doing this for awhile. Eventually she will begin to talk to you within your mind through the form of a thought that you didn't create on your own and then you can have back and forth conversations in your mind.

This is the best I've been able to do. I don't know if all that hallucination stuff works.

>> No.8794041

>>8794037
They talk back naturally for me. I must be lucky.

>> No.8794044

>>8793913
you can't

>> No.8794045

>>8794035
You want him to go to a university and tell them that he made an imaginary friend of sorts?

>> No.8794047

>>8794035

It's not really a new phenomenon though. Carl Jung did it years ago and wrote a whole bunch of shit about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_imagination

>> No.8794056

>>8794035
You be honest with him. Tell him you were afraid of contacting him because you felt bad/dumb/awkward/whatever. Same as before, if he doesn't want to be friend still, fuck 'em. Move on.

>> No.8794086

>>8794056
Thanks, I guess I'll try that tomorrow. It's 6 AM here and I'm getting kinda drowsy. I absolutely can't mess this up.

>> No.8794087

If I make an imaginary friend will she be angry if I play eroge?

I don't want my mind to start assaulting me every time I play a game with romance.

>> No.8794089

>>8794087
Your friend is shit if she doesn't like you playing eroge

>> No.8794090

>>8794087
It depends. Some real people wouldn't care so I don't see why your friend would get worked up over it.

>> No.8794091

>>8794087
You are in control of her creation. If you want her to be accepting of eroge, then either give her an interest in eroge, or at the very least have her be ok with it.

>> No.8794099

Do these tulpa things actually talk to you while you're not visualizing them?

I'm trying to imagine myself in a conversation with a girl inside of my head while I'm browsing /jp/ and it seems very, very comforting. I would love it so much.

>> No.8794113

>>8794099
If you give them attention, yes.

>> No.8794126

>>8793776
Learn to program and make an infinite open ended dating dim/VN. You can add as many random dialogs as you want. Or play an MMO.

>> No.8794171

>>8794169
he looks like >that feel guy

>> No.8794169
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I made my tulpa back in middle school. I first communicated with her by writing a shit ton of made up fiction and when I tried to dream about her I would write down everything in this folder. It got out of hand sometime ago (I can't remember when), my parents called the cops on me thinking I was crazy and they found all my journals and stuff.Cops just thought I was into literature/drawing and not something else. So they put me in the hospital for 2 months. Once I was let go the cops kept coming back to my house asking me "are you talking to yourself still" and got sick of it so I forced to ignore my tulpa. I found 4chan In 9th grade (high school was when I got into anime so my tulpa had no anime influences). Now,present day (this year) I found out what exactly a 'tulpa' is.

tl;dr I wouldn't of known an advanced imaginary friend was something more complex without you guys.

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>Tulpa

That gum you like is going to come back in style

>> No.8794173

I'll be your solution for lonliness. I can even pretend to be japanese and artifical if you want. Hell I'll pretend to be anything you want.

>> No.8794184

I want to meet someone who I can just talk to. It sucks, I'm necessarily lonely or anything like that, but I am usually stuck in my room; and at that, I can't really be creeping out my family by doing the usual (VN, anime etc). Issue being that I don't really know how to go about this.

>> No.8794188

>>8794172

Garmonbozia

>> No.8794189

>>8794184
correct: Not Necessarily*

>> No.8794220

Try succubus summoning. Some people I know got it to work. Maybe I just did something wrong while summoning.

Other than that, I guess we'll just have to wait for artificial reality or something.

>> No.8794266

AI will never be real because intelligence requires a soul and a soul cannot be made in a computer.

>> No.8794275

>>8794266
"Soul" is just a word.
The human brain is actually something like a highly advanced biological computer.

>> No.8794280

>>8794266
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1LCVknKUJ4

Never say never.

>> No.8794325

>>8794280
Never.

>> No.8794329

>>8794325
Fair enough.

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8794382

Lonliness is just another meanlingless emotion. Smile when you're around people no matter how you're feeling and play them until you're satisfied.

>> No.8794525

>>8794382

Sometimes I masturbate

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8794553

you could pay a camwhore on those live adult sites to pretend you're eating dinner together.

>> No.8794559

wtf is a dakimakura

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Because Japan didn't create it.

http://tubedubber.com/#eihD7GC9uRQ:UEaKX9YYHiQ:0:100:0:10:1

>> No.8794643

shitnatsu because she is shitty

>> No.8794665

>>8794643
What did I tell you before? I'm calling my dad.

>> No.8796781

>>8794266
Hi vitalist. Computationalist/mechanist master race here.

Even if I was wrong about it (which I doubt, because it will make everything about the world impossible to ever comprehend at all, basically absolutely illogical and we wouldn't even be able to apply induction or do science in any way if it was false), behavioral human-level intelligence should be possible anyway.

>> No.8796822

Lonliness? Seriously? I have no friends and never talk to anyone, but I haven't felt lonely in years.
Get on my level.

>> No.8799247

>Ctrl+F "waifu"
>0 Results

Okay then.

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