/jp/ - Otaku Culture

sounds like you'd be better off with ssRis am i right guys or what

How do you get diagnosed as a shut-in?

>>8690181
I hate you, you avatar using hambeast

>>8690204

;_; I'm just trying to get help Anon

Plees respont

>>8690230
I'll help you but i'm going to need a picture of your butt to prove you are human first though.

>I'm moving out of my parent's house soon because I think it will help me
I'm in the same situation and I'm thinking about doing the same thing, my father already owns a house he could give to me. I'm gonna try taking walks regularly when I love on my own, shop for groceries rather than buying them online and I'll maybe consider a dog I'll have to take out for walks.

If all of that proves to be either too hard or effective I'll try a shrink again, but if I can do it but consistently feel terrible I'll have to find something else to try.

Or, you could like, get a job or something.

>>8690230
I'm sorry ;_;
Good luck.

>>8690250

>>8690263

I can barely leave my house ;_;

Would you like to move in with me? I can support you and we can cook together n' stuff.

>>8690302

Sorry Anon! I already have plans to move in with someone else.

http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-living-ussi.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/payee/faqbene.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/oact/COLA/SSI.html
http://www.ssa.gov/pgm/ssi.htm
Took 8 months to finally get the check and you only get about 530 bucks a month so you can't survive on your own.
I got it for PTSD, insomnia, and depression.
You have to visit this guy one time who sees if you are able to function in society or not.
I'm not able to function in society hence why I'm here.
That's pretty much all I know.

>>8690302
Sounds great can I wear a maid outfit?

>>8690320

Did they check out what you're like with people who know you? Who did they question? Their website says it takes about 3-4 months, should I plan for it to maybe take longer? Do you live on your own or with parents or something?

>>8690288
What are you scared of? I don't like people, but they usually don't pay attention to me, so I'm usually left alone. And going out for walks with my dog is very enjoyable. The outside world isn't as fun as the internet, but it's still pretty nice

>>8690318
Slut. Saged and reported.

>>8690320
Did you have medical records from visiting a psych beforehand? I don't know if I'm up for that.

>>8690288
Why not whore yourself?
You can just tape yourself saying lewd things, add some photos and sell it through the internet to old perverted men. Make a website and take requests from fetishists.
That's what I would do if I was a girl.

>>8690332

I'm just afraid of people in general, I don't know. It's been so long that I've been like this that it's just kind of how I am now, I don't really think I'll "get better" ever because I'm not sure if I was all that "better" to begin with.

Also I forgot to post Gumi before. Also stop pretending to be by tainting my waifu ;_; >>8690325

>>8690318
get a load of this slut

>>8690349
I used to be like that. I didn't (and still don't) know how to talk to people, and I just didn't want to be around them. But after a while, I realized they're just like animals, and I don't have to be afraid. No one ever talks to me, and I don't talk to anyone else. It's like they don't exist. It's how I get through the day most of the time, and it's fine. Classes for a few hours, then come home and lurk the internet, and with little to no interaction with others. You can do it Gumi-friend.

>>8690318
Is he from /jp/?

>>8690363

I've tried to go to school twice now and left after about a month at the most. I've definitely already tried lots of ways to "fix" myself but none of them have worked.

>>8690373
Don't try to "fix" yourself, there's nothing wrong with you. What you need to do is just adapt. Sometimes you just have to deal with it. Go out, but still be yourself. Can you not do well academically or is it just a phobia? Because if you're just scared, remember that with scholarships, they usually give you the money left over. I spent my refund on figures. And I find the classes pretty interesting too, so it's not hard. Money and something to kill the time? Doesn't sound too bad to be honest.

>>8690330
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to live on my own.
I don't have nearly enough cash.
Like most of /jpautism/ I live with my mother.
I went there about 8 years ago with my mother. They questioned her and me. Mostly her since I was about to vomit from anxiety. I think they only talked to my mother and me. I'm not 100 percent sure though. It took about 8 months to get the money for me, so I'm guessing it will take much longer than 3 months for you. I haven't sleep in a while so I apologize for my grammar.

Hey, OP, what you should do is either go to school or get a job.

Not be a shut-in.

Go to school part time, work part time, but don't overburden yourself with it. Just get yourself a daily schedule that will benefit you, and let everything else take care of itself.

What's with these anti-shut-in crusaders? Are we being raided by /soc/?

At least go to school. I still live with my mom and never had a job, but she doesn't give a fuck as long as I'm going to school.

I'm on it for social anxiety and depression, I get $700 a month and $200 in food stamps. I had to see a psychiatrist to get evaluated. I've been to several therapists and been on more anti-depressants than I remember.

>>8690416
Yes, this is what I did too. Except I went to a lonely corner in a park instead of school. I did this for three years and then said I was quitting school.

>>8690341
I don't know if I had to or not. I remember my mother forcing me to go though. I was visiting a psychiatrist for about year before getting the appointment to see the SSI evaluation guy. After the evaluation I kept visiting the psychiatrist for about another six months. My mother saw it did nothing but cause me great stress so she let me stop going. I never had to take any medication either. (as I refuse to take any) Although my mother has tried drugging me many times. Now I'm too paranoid to accept any type of food or drink from her. I make all my own food and drinks. I suggest /jp/ do the same. You never know if your family is drugging you.

>>8690430
Wow, did it not eat at you?
Weren't you afraid of being seen by someone?
How did you fake homework and exam preparation?

I always wondered if I could do this. But I hate people not fear them, so probably not. Of course, I do stutter greatly when I'm in a pressuring conversation.

>>8690459
Think of it as sticking it to the man and society.

>>8690443
The park was close by, so if someone saw me I could pretend I had some free time between classes and decided to relax there. Nobody ever saw me anyway.
I pretended to prepare homework and exams at the campus facilities, and faked most of my grades (I pretended they were shit, but its better than " absent".
Living that lie felt stressful at times but I grew accustomed. I decided to call it quits before fake graduation, that would've been disastrous.

>>8690406

I am not an "anti-shut in" crusader, I simply recognize the importance of contributing to society. It is pathetic when people work the system in such a way that they contribute nothing, and instead leech off of others' contributions. That makes you useless, and makes you a surplus population who are unnecessary to the survival and proper functioning of society. You are simply leeches feeding on society's body.

>>8690466
Not a bad idea, but in the end it's just me being lazy. I don't think I could ever allow myself to go that far. But as a kid, I would go to a psychiatrist because I couldn't get along with people at all. I don't remember the results, but I still can't get along and have no friends. I like going outside and exploring with my dog, taking pictures, but I can't do anything if someone is watching. I ruined the only interview I ever had, and I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever be able to get a job. But I just don't know if I want to give up like that. At the very least I'm going to school, but I'm already procrastinating on assignments.

>>8690475
Wow.
Good for you that it worked, I guess.
I do a similar thing with college.

>>8690474
Some people are just worthless, lazy, broken trash.
It can't be helped.

>>8690474
It actually is starting to become a problem that there simply isn't enough unskilled work for everyone to be employed. Which means that either everyone learns a useful skill (literally impossible for a significant proportion of the population) or they get welfare.

The problem will be even worse in a couple decades.

>>8690474

Yeah you're right, maybe I'm just a failure and I should just kill myself for being so useless. It's not like I don't already feel this way all the time, right? Thank you for reminding me, Anon.

>>8690516
Going on welfare isn't going to help the national debt. At least using government money for a degree might come in handy, even if the job market is shit. You could always try freelancing as well. Designing websites and shit is pretty easy.

>>8690529
You could always just make an honest effort instead of running back to the government and falling back on "I'm scared of people"
We're all scared of people, but we deal with it. There's something for everyone out there, but it's up to you to find it.

>>8690530
What if you're too stupid for that?
I can barely concentrate for 20 minutes at a time and forget information and skills that I don't apply literally every day very fast.

>>8690544
>deal with it
I can't. That's the problem.
Normals everywhere.
/reddit/
/facebook/
/outside/

>>8690548
You're lucky you can even think for that long. And if you don't apply them everyday, then they aren't really worth it. Not all jobs require a fully functioning brain, even if they like to say they do. And you can always lie about references and experience as well, they hardly ever check, unless it's a legitimately necessary thing. It's just as easy to work this system as it is the other.

>>8690529

Quit being a pussy. Any problem you have is a problem that you can dig yourself out of with enough work ethic and effort.

You see homeless people, beggars and prostitutes? They chose to be where they are in life. They chose to be where they are by not getting off their asses and doing something to better themselves. Grow a pair of fucking balls and do something that will either advance your position in society or just keep you alive, instead of depending on handouts from Great Leader Obama (TM)

>>8690555
>I can't.
Why not?
Aren't you just lazy?
I'm sure most people here would find ways to "deal with it", if their enablers would stop enabling their unhealthy ways.

Be at least honest with yourself.
You're what you are because of the decisions you make every day, because you don't make an honest effort, because you don't have to, because your parents and/or the government support and feed you anyway.

Do you realize you have never, and can never, fulfill the no education requirement of "NEET" because you're always learning?

>>8690581
Shut up

>>8690581
I'm pretty sure that refers to formal education. Nice try though

>>8690555

Seriously. Did you ever think maybe some of us are so afraid of people to the point of not being able to leave the house because people tell us we're useless and a waste to society?

>>8690571
People don't choose to be born with disabilities.

>>8690586
>>8690588
You're not NEET. Just admit it. What difference does paying for a class make? You're counting online classes too right?

I keep enrolling in college certificate programs so that I can live off of financial aid as a full time student

By now I have a certificate in Criminal Justice Studies, a certificate in Emergency Management, a certificate in Public Administration, and a certificate in Asian Studies for shits and giggles

The funny thing is that while I have all of these on my resume (and on my wall), I have not even bothered to apply for a job for the past few years

>mfw I found an awesome way to work the system, by being a college student for as long as my little heart desires

>>8690565
I read more in the past, but I feel like my memory got gradually worse over time.
Now I forget 90% of the content of a book or even TV show after just a week or so.
It's incredibly frustrating.
It doesn't help that I have no passions, just shallow interests that I don't even care to pursue.
I have no talents, no skills, no goals, no ambitions.

>lie about references and experience
I can't even talk like a normal person, much less convincingly lie...

>>8690529
Don't do it Gumi
I love you ;_;

>>8690594

Disabilities are something you can overcome. Besides, I am fairly sure your "disability" is something bullshit like asperger's or bipolar.

>>8690530
National debt doesn't matter as long as GDP keeps increasing. And in terms of money distribution, one dollar to a poor person will increase the GDP more than one dollar to a rich person (since they will actually spend it, keeping money circulating and increasing demand for products), making it good from a GDP measure.

>>8690581
>>8690596
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEET

>>8690575
Autism.
Please leave because you don't know what it is.
This person too
>>8690571

>>8690596
Is it unthinkable for you, that some people really do nothing productive at all?

>>8690591
I can, because that was my fear for a very long time. But I came to terms with it. I know I have no real meaning, but so what? I enjoy going on the internet, I like being myself. And lords knows I would like to stay inside and not do anything. But I know it's not realistic, so I only go when I need to. And I can handle it because I've come to terms with it. Really, of what use is anyone else in the world? Might as well make the most of it.

>>8690610
Oh, yes, all NEETs and leeches are autistic.

>>8690610

There are job agencies which exist to help people like you find employment.

>>8690591
/v/ here. Kill yourself now and save my tax money.

>>8690605
holy shit 000000000000/10

>>8690615
Not realistic for you, but it is for many.

If a form asks what you do and you can't answer "Student", you aren't in Education.

>>8690600
I know, I feel like that too. You might as well be me. But I like simplicity. Getting a simple little job and living a simple little life is fine. I'm content, even happy. The best thing you can do is to just live. By living, you struggle against life and the absurd. And that makes me happy

>>8690615

What use of people are in the world is debatable. Even if you feel like you don't make much of a difference, if you were never born I'm sure things would be different. You just don't really have any idea of the impact you've made on people or the world at all, usually.

>>8690622
Well of course you could be homeless, I guess that's realistic. But why would you want to do that? Is going outside so bad you'd risk being outside forever?

>>8690591
Honestly, I don't understand being unable to leave your house. I mean, I do dislike talking to other people, but you can walk around, buy stuff, eat, etc. without doing that.

>>8690638
Then why don't you think about yourself like that? Why don't you realize the difference you make? You don't make a difference to everyone, but you do for some. Isn't that good enough? Not like you can expect to affect everyone, so why not at least someone?

>>8690618
You just don't get it.
>>8690617
I never implied that.

Fucking normals

>>8690644
Excuses like "you just don't get it" are just ridiculous. Why can't you come up with a legitimate excuse? Probably because there isn't one

>>8690637
To expand on this a little, I go for walks, wander around, sit down and read, and everything and always feel incredibly alone - no one ever even tries to talk to you, greet you, or even recognize your existence unless required by their job (cashiers, waiters).

Being in the middle of the modern public crowds, completely exposed to the world, is the most lonesome thing I can imagine.

normals are everywhere

>>8690642

I do think that, I just don't have a job or go to school or leave my house. That was my point. You can still make a difference to society in some way without having a job or even leaving your house. How people have made a difference is debatable.

Why have there been so many normals in /jp/ this week, or did they just make themselves more visible?

>>8690650
Autism

>>8690660
Then why are you afraid of being called worthless? You've already proven you're not, which just makes them faggots, and who listens to faggots anyways?

And you'd be surprised how much you can get by with little to no interaction with others. People won't talk to you unless they need to. Strangers aren't going to walk up to you and call you worthless either.

>>8690672
Normals have school and work off on Saturday and Sunday.

>>8690671

But you just called me worthless for not contributing to society, right? And you don't even really know anything about me at all.

Also, because non-existant self esteem.

>>8690683

Actually I work a night shift at the university library later tonight. 4chan is part of my daily before-breakfast routine.

>>8690657
I'm fine when I'm in a crowd or crowded place. I feel like I'm invisible then, as long as I don't screw up, and when I do, the few people around me who are able to notice will be exchanged very quickly.
Being in class or a small group or at a relatively empty (urban) place is something very different.
Especially in college or work environments I'm terrified and feel very stressed and anxious.

That seems to be oppositional to what many people seem to experience.

>>8690692
>work
Normal detected.

>>8690691
That was probably the other guy, I would never call someone worthless. Listen, stop trying to live up to others expectations. I know this sounds weird coming from me, but stop giving a fuck what people think. Fuck the police. You think I give a fuck when people see my figures? You think I give a fuck when people see my dakimakura? Hell no. Sure, I don't go around telling people about it, but I'm not ashamed. I like it, so whatever. Not giving a fuck is true freedom. After that, you can do whatever you want.

Get out normal scum.

>>8690711
amen brotha, our lives are short and will be forgotten over time
so fuck it, do whatever you want
stupidity is letting your one and only life be controlled by the expectations of others

>>8690722
Just for clarification, who is normal?

? >>8690693
? >>8690600
? >>8690692
? >>8690598

>>8690711

If I stop giving a fuck about people, I stop caring about them all together. That completely goes against all of my ideals. I don't want to stop caring about people, even the really horrible mean ones. Maybe they have some good deep down!

>>8690733
No one is, he's just being a retard. OH NO HE GOES OUTSIDE, FUCKING NORMALFAG.

He's honestly never seen a real normalfag

>>8690693
Out of curiosity, what about small groups of people makes you feel anxious? Or is it just general anxiety?

For me, I worry that I'll be a bother or (only if I know I'll interact with them again) that I'll be hated behind my back.

>>8690738
Of course, I don't mean be an asshole to people. But live your own life, not theirs. I'm an asshole in general, but I don't bother people if they don't bother me. I even help people if they ask for it. Live your life, be an individual, and then you can be treated as an equal.

>>8690747
I used to be anxious around people, then I realized there was no reason to be. They hardly ever notice me, and if they do, I just give them what they need, and then go back to my own thing.

>>8690747
I guess it's that it's more likely (often enough almost inevitable) that someone tries to talk to me or that I have to talk to people.
I'm kind of bashful and in such situations my mind goes blank and I murmur a reply way too fast and I think my voice sounds high pitched and stressed, which is embarrassing and I know that my reply won't be satisfying and awkward.

I'm kind of okay with more neutral, professional interactions, like paying for groceries and stuff, even though I'm painfully aware that they judge my posture, what I buy, etc.
Direct, personal interaction always ends in utter humiliation though; I can't even play team based online games because I get all worked up over what people think about every tiny mistake I make, which just makes me perform even worse.
Basically, I can play Battlefield 3, but not Starcraft 2.
I can walk through the city center on Christmas, but not attend a college class.
Not without feeling very, very uncomfortable at least.

bored people pretending to be NEET
0/10

>>8690738
I would like to be your friend over the internet so you can get some confidence and you can give me some as well.
When you have stable social interaction of some sort, the rest is easier.
I need some light interaction with girls to help my phobia.
We will never meet IRL under any circumstances. No pics no real data. How does that sound?
If you're interested tell me what manner of communication you prefer and I'll make an account and post it here (tomorrow because I'm going to sleep).

>>8690841
I wouldn't mind talking with Gumi-friend either. I've been pretty bored lately, and I admit talking with someone would sound nice every once in a while.

I have an assignment to finish, but chances are I'll be on the internet most of the time, so I'll keep an eye on this thread.

>>8690855
goddamnit anon, get your own gumi friend!
tripping just in case

>>8690901
I've been talking to him too, so I wouldn't mind to keep talking. Doesn't look like he'll be back though.

>>8690901
>>8690855
>>8690841

Sorry I don't know if I could really be there for you to talk to you. I tend to uh, disappear a lot, so yeah. It's probably better that you don't talk to me, it might be upsetting for you, I guess, and it might be pressuring to be better for me.

>>8691058
I really don't mind, but if you don't want to, its fine. I wish you luck Gumi-friend.

>>8691084

Thanks Anon. I hope you find comfort in someone much stronger than me and I'm sorry I cannot help!

>>8691105
I wish you the same. Just remember to be yourself.

So many Gumi...
I want them all.

>>8690598
Wait, is this with like 4 year colleges or something? I am curious.

Did you read the hilarious "Getting on SSI guide" someone posted here before? The Uncle Remus one.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S6512844#p6512945

It sounds like it could work 100% if you really are crazy/insane/autismic. It should be easy for you, Gumi Anon.

>>8690901
>>8690855
>>8690841
She might not listen to you, but she can talk to you.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ma7r28p4zayo8b9

Apply before you leave. They will try to get information from the people you live with. Even if they are against it, having you parents verify that you were a shut if for six years will help you a lot. Requesting for the doctor to come to you will also help. If you follow remus's guide you will pretty much guarantee that you will get it but there is also a high chance of things backfiring. Personally I think all you need to do is apply.

I'm confused as to how shuttins are able to move out. I'd love to move out since even my parents make me anxious, but getting money is impossible. I've spent the last few years not leaving the house and slowly watching my money drain away, and this was after 7 years of never spending money on food at school / college / university because chronic stomach pains made eating impossible.

>>8692580

How did you survive without eating for so long?

>>8692580

I think the OP said s/he was moving in with someone. >>8690318

I'm not sure how that works as a shut-in though. I could never let a NEET leech off me.

>>8692611
It's hard to feel hungry when your stomach is in constant pain that makes you want to cry, thankfully it's mostly been better since I stopped going outside.

That said, I've always hardly eaten, spent my childhood being threatened with being locked up in an institution, continued until I was an adult, then I just had appointments with doctors and psychiatrist scheduled that I was too afraid not to attend since my survival depends upon not being kicked out. It was fun being dragged to a psychiatrist for an eating disorder you don't personally think you have when you're having anxiety induced panic attacks that seemingly go unnoticed. Gets brought up every time I'm having a bad week and don't bother leaving my room except at night.

Today I've just had the one meal at around 7pm, it's now 5am and I'm not hungry, I can happily go one day without food, usually just have one meal a day. At least I'm that little less of a burden since I'm not cutting into the food budget much, might come in handy when I finally end up homeless.

This thread is a pretty good portrait of what /jp/ has become.

>>8692696
A better place than if you take 80% of the other threads on /jp/ as an accurate picture of what /jp/ as a whole is.

>>8692654
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4VN0in4weA

>>8692580

Be female and whore yourself out.

>>8692696
is that so? I thought we had a lot of other interesting things.

>>8692332
congrats on the marriage

>>8694310
Interesting how most of those threads start with a question.
Including this one.