/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I called the police just now. Enjoy life in prison.

>>8674191
You have no evidence the OP fapped to loli or not.

>>8674196
Probable cause, bro.
He's probably fapped to lolis.

Papyrus is underused.

How would they even know? can they tell from the semen stained tissues that i came from watching loli?

I mean i cant tell the differance between a sticky cum tissue from fapping to loli and another one from fapping to traps.

Science and police work sure is scary..

>>8674198
Fapping to 40 year old women with fake tits makes your cum smell rotten. That's how they get you.

>>8674196
Are you actually suggesting the authorities care about that sort of thing? This thread is more than enough probable cause these days.

>>8674201
Well, if he doesn't have certain other traits that make the authorities go wild he might still have a chance to go to court, in there, evidence is everything.

>>8674189
Silly americunts and their thoughtcrime.

You people are truly easily manipulated sheep.

agreed, thats why im asking

>>8674189
I don't fap to loli.

I'm gay, but still if you would get caught then what if you would say that it's okay she is over 500 years old so she is not underage even though she looks like one?
I wonder

bump

>>8674202
This is literally true. Loli was banned because the bliss of masturbating to it was scientifically proven to be so overwhelmingly powerful that all other worldly matters cease to be of concern to the enlightened onanist. Projections showed the collapse of capitalism and all the major world economies as the entire male working population retreated into a world of pure heavenly orgasms.

Not on the US, on Canada it is.

>Canada

Yes, victimless thought crimes are a serious deal. Think of the fictional children, OP.

You know, if someone were to falsely accuse me of doing something illegal, I would probably end up going to jail. I'm creepy looking, socially inept, paranoid, and have a lot of weird habits when it comes to being watched by people. Hell, I would probably lie and say I'm guilty just to get out of that nerve-wrecking situation as quickly as possible. I wonder if they would let me pay the death penalty. I would honestly rather die than spend a single year in prison.

>>8675736
why do people keep saying this? are you stupid, or just wishful thinking?

http://www.avclub.com/articles/man-faces-10-years-in-prison-for-downloading-simps,46424/

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A
> Any person who [...] knowingly [...] receives [...] a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that—
> (1)
> (A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
> (B) is obscene; or
> (2)
> (A) depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; and
> (B) lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value;
> or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be subject to the penalties provided in section 2252A (b)(1), including the penalties provided for cases involving a prior conviction.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2252A
> (b)
> (1) Whoever violates, or attempts or conspires to violate, paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (6) of subsection (a) shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, but, if such person has a prior conviction under this chapter, section 1591, chapter 71 section 1591, chapter 71, chapter 109A, or chapter 117, or under section 920 of title 10 (article 120 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), or under the laws of any State relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward, or the production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of child pornography, or sex trafficking of children, such person shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 15 years nor more than 40 years.

>>8675765

The amount of people that actually goes to prison for watching loli however is almost non existent (real loli I mean).

The only case I can think of is that idiot who imported loli doujins to the US.

>>8675765
Summary for the lazy:
Lolicon is illegal in the United States. Sexual images are outright illegal. Lewd images are determined by the Miller test.
For knowingly downloading lolicon, the penalty is 5-20 years imprisonment. The penalty is raised to 15-40 years imprisonment if you have been convicted of a sex/pornography crime before.

However as far as I am aware, nobody has been convinced (specifically) for lolicon.

>>8675783
s/convinced/convicted/

I need sleep.

>>8675783

So if you tap to it on gelbooru and exhentai nothing happens but if you download it you are in trouble?

>America

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

>>8675776
This is true. However I think the only reason for this is because the public/law enforcement at large don't know about lolicon. Pseudophotographs (fakes) have been illegal in most areas for decades, but it was only recently that a court ruled that it does not matter whether the minor depicted actually exists. The cartoon thing is relatively recent too; it comes from the PROTECT Act of 2003.

Unfortunately, the public are becoming more aware of lolicon thanks to people like Mad Thad, and Something Awful goons shutting down lolicon Reddits. We are truly living in dark times.

>>8675783
So if you masturbate to cartoons you run the risk of getting trapped in with a bunch of violent assholes and rapists for up to 20 years. The only thing that could achieve is turning a harmless pervert into someone who actually might hurt someone. JUSTICE.

>>8675783
Christopher Handley: 6 months for lolicon manga.
Dwight Whorley: 5 years minimum for accessing lolicon.
Steven Kuntzner: 15 months minimum for downloading simpsons porn.
I included links but 4chan thought it was spam. Google the names.

All of these men are branded as sex offenders, effectively destroying their chance to ever live normal lives again under the USA's incredibly strict laws.

>>8675792
I think you can plead mens rea, which basically means you downloaded it unintentionally. Here in the UK caching a child pornography image is technically illegal under the Protection of Children Act 1978, but you can claim it was cached to your hard drive by your browser if you can prove it, e.g. "I was on /jp/ and someone posted 'Check out this CP,' here is a link to the thread."

>>8675816

>Retard has actual manga
>Retard viewing loli ON A FUCKING GOVERMENT BUILDING, A PUBLIC PLACE
>Retard downloading loli

But what about us non retarded people that watch it on gelbooru or exhentai?

>>8675816
I never knew Christopher Handley was actually imprisoned, thanks for the update. Off the top of my head I know that Dwight Whorley had real CP as well as lolicon, but I'm not sure about Steven Kutzner. I know he had Simpsons porn, but so does everyone on 4chan ("Bart get out, I am piss").

>>8675836
Those are mainstream websites and ones the FBI undoubtedly knows about (PROTIP: If you can figure out how to access/use them, so can they). Depending on where they are hosted, they may be required to save access logs for up to six months. This could spell trouble if you live in the U.S.

>>8675836
Streaming is also downloading and still illegal. Bit more effort to argue for, though

>>8675836
Obviously, they were stupid and the government is not actively tracking down lolicon users. The point is to be aware that they could, at any time, decide to change this policy. These cases are precedent.

Apart from that, if you have anything sexual involving characters who even look underage on your computer, you have to be careful or you could end up like this poor fucks out of sheer bad luck.

>>8675850
Haha, I think you overestimate the FBI if you think they can access Exhentai.

Trust me, government officials are total fucking tards when it comes to technology.

>>8675822
Gigas upon gigas of well ordered doujins would be hard to explain this way i suppose.

>that feel when I can store loli on my computer without problems because I don't live in a state that criminalizes thought
You jelly, Murricans?

>>8675879
It must be nice to be young.

>>8675816
Christopher Handley
Dwight Whorley
Steven Kuntzner

>Handley
>Whorley
>Kuntzner

Those names, lmao

Is this assbackwards loli illegal thing on all US states or just in some?

>>8675884
You're never too old for juvenile humor. Lighten up.

>>8675884
A sex offender whose name starts with Whor or Kunt does not stop being ironic as you get older.

>>8675889
It's actually Kutzner. >>8675816 made a typo.

I exist solely to destroy your fun.

>>8675881
I wouldn't worry about it until you see a crackdown. Unless you just happen to be unlucky on the scale of 1/250 million

>>8675862
Nice delusion.
Reality is completely opposite though.

>Have constant paranoid attacks
>This fucking threads

What should I do? burn my house?

>>8675894
dban your hard drives. Then cover them in acid until there's nothing left. But make sure you buy the acid with Bitcoin and have it delivered by a discreet courier. Don't leave a single trace of your hard drive otherwise the FBI will want to know why you went through so much effort to destroy it.

>>8675862

You mean elected government officials are complete fucktards when it comes to technology.

The CIA and FBI know what the fuck they're doing, because the employees are hired by merit and skill instead of being elected by fellow morons. And if they want to ruin your life, they will, and with ease.

>>8675892
250 million out of 300 million Americans fap to loli!?

>>8675894
At least you don't live in Britain. Probably.

This billboard scared the hell out of me.
I DO THIS ALL THE TIME. WHAT THE FUCK.

>>8675899
Pardon the arbitrary statistics. My fault.

>>8675899
HABEEB IT.

>>8675902

No I live in florida.

Now that I think about it when was the last time anyone gave a shit about loli in florida?

It's legal to fucking shot people if they trespass your house but it's not legal to fap to drawings?

Honestly, you get the wrong judge, and you could probably become a sex offender for life because of to-love-ru scans on your hard drive. Be careful with access to your computer and storage devices. Don't be stupid.

>>8675912
Yeah, America doesn't quite know what it's doing. And I like America.

>>8675902
Hahahaha, well, you created 1984 and decided to live by it too, amazing.

>>8675898
>The CIA and FBI know what the fuck they're doing
And chemtrails are real.

The CIA and FBI are incompetent fucks. You'd know this if you weren't American and had a huge boner for your country's secret services.

>>8675922
Which is funny because every Opposition MP uses the hurr durr 1984 rhetoric whenever they're not in power. Yet they all do the same things when they are.

I think with regards to terrorism and crime, some clever marketing team has realized that a certain amount of scaremongering works.

Just truecrypt your stuff, if you're really paranoid. Not difficult.

They can't get you arrested for simply browsing doujins on exhentai. Not like they would ever bother with 20 year olds in college/slacking off for a few years, anyway. They have 0 interest in going after people like us, harmless and mostly young. If you're messing around with the 3D stuff, that's an entirely different subject.

Stay 2D and stay low and you'll never get into trouble — if you're not retarded to import loli or browse loli in a public place, that is.

>>8675938
much as the libertarians in america drive me crazy with their gun fetish and no-taxes-for-rich-people shit, it's nice to know that things will never get this bad here because of their political influence

>>8675919
Why, I believe America knows what it (America) does. Government just needs some scapegoats to manipulate people with, and those are "pedophiles", convenient targets and means to manipulate flock with.

>>8675930
Not him and I'm not American, but come on. They're hiring people out of MIT. These people aren't idiots. They certainly have the same basic Internet skills that you do.

>>8675948
Truecrypt doesn't work if the drive is in use.

>>8675950
You one them queers that wants to take my guns?

>>8675968
>Truecrypt doesn't work because it has a U.S. government backdoor, much like OpenBSD and Tor.

>>8675968
That's why you always dismount it after use, if you're paranoid. You could even just restart your pc, I think.

>>8675979
what

>>8675979
Isn't it open source?

>>8675899

>>8676003
So were Tor and OpenBSD. You don't even have to obfuscate anything to insert an intentional 'bug'. "Oh you mean certain cryptographic keys cause an overflow that allows an attacker to run malicious code? No, we here at DARPA didn't know that!"
Tor is especially dangerous since it was developed by the U.S. Navy. Do NOT use it, even if you compile it yourself.

>>8675930

You're a fucking moron.

>>8675930
I am not american, but you are clearly in denial. Normaly, in organizations like FBA (and it's analogs in each country) go the smartest people of the country. I happen to know one and he is the smartest dude I have known, skipping through grades, giving seminares in his own university department (information security department, by the way) while still studing and other stuff you can normally find in some only in fiction.

>>8675894
I wasn't going to reply to this thread because it's been posted countless times, but if someone is honestly having a panic attack I guess this is worth clearing up. polo manga guy was charged with OBSCENITY, not child porn, because he shipped it through the US postal service instead of FedEx and it failed the miller test. Obscenity doesn't apply in your own home because that would be dumb and also ban all pornography. The part of the protect act that makes loli completely illegal was deemed unconstitutional several years later and overturned (idk the proper language). almost all loli convictions have been the authorities searching for more charges to pile on to someone who had child porn. So please anon don't get upset, if /jp/ didn't have boring lives and a persecution complex, they would do a basic search and find out the sky is falling stuff is bullshit.

>>8676019
Great argument as always, fucknut.

Britain really is a fucking joke. You faggots bitch about the US but you're just as bad, if not worse, about all this shit.

>>8676018
>Tor is especially dangerous since it was developed by the U.S. Navy.

[citation needed]

>>8675816

Christopher Handley: Plead guilty.
Dwight Whorley: Had actual CP in addition to lolicon, and was on parole for a previous sexual offense.
Steven Kutzner: Plead guilty, and was convicted in Australia besides.

To be honest, it's a bit of a mixed bag. In Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition the Supreme Court ruled that prosecution of individuals who possessed pornographic depictions of drawn minors was invalid. However, that hasn't stopped authorities from prosecuting on exactly that basis. Honestly, if you argued your case and took it all the way up you'd likely get away fine, albeit with your reputation destroyed from the public brouhaha.

>>8676018
I find that difficult to believe. Mostly because I don't know of any precedents/cases to confirm what you're saying.

Truecrypt is probably fine, dude.

>>8676031

There's no point in arguing with someone stupid enough to think the FBI and CIA are all run by incompetent morons who can't use the internet.

>>8676035
But if you plead guilty your reputation is definitely destroyed.

>>8676039
Stay paranoid, retard fuck.

>>8676019
Now, now. That's not fair. It's easy to look at things like stupid laws and arrests and assume other government divisions are like that. No matter how well-trained and educated cybercrime teams may be, it's very easy to look at things like "series of tubes" and a few stupid arrests and decide that the whole American government is technologically retarded.
Not that he is correct. I knew someone from MIT who was studying cryptography in order to join the FBI. He was autistic as fuck but he never got the job. Obviously they want the best people who DO know about these sort of things (and perhaps have experience) so it makes me kind of worried what sort of people they ARE hiring.

Luckily for us, everything they know, we know. We can't crack AES-256 encryption and neither can they.

>>8676026

Thanks, you made me not want to kill myself.

>>8676046

hurrr i trol the amerikuntss xdddXDD

There was a story a couple years ago of a guy in Brazil who was using either dm-crypt or truecrypt. The Brazilian government tried to crack it but was unable to so they gave it to the USA / NSA and even the NSA was unable to break the cypher. He still got charged cause there was circumstantial evidence against him (I think it was a CP case) but not even the US government was able to crack his encrypted drive.

>>8676033
http://static.usenix.org/events/sec04/tech/full_papers/dingledine/dingledine_html/index.html
> Naval Research Lab

>>8676049

No, he would genuinely have to be a moron to believe that. The difference between elected officials and professional agencies holds true for other developed nations as well.

You guys really think they're going to give a shit if your stuff is encrypted? They'll just plant shit on you or pretend they broke it and supplement their own evidence.

Feels good to be British.
The RIP Act is the best thing ever. You basically get to choose between:
a) Handing over your cryptographic key, letting the government find your CP, 10 years in prison.
b) Refusing to hand over your cryptographic key, 2 years in prison.

>>8676065
This. In the end, you're going to get convicted either way. It's a public secret that FBI plants CP on victim's hard drives.

>>8676058
That doesn't probes your point.

>>8676049
>We can't crack AES-256 encryption and neither can they.

This

In theory there is not enough energy in the known universe to crack AES-256 bit encryption. There's a slight flaw though that renders half of AES's key pairs to be identical to each other so it's only effectively 128 bit encryption but even this is uncrackable. If you want a universe-proof cracking algorithm all you need to do is go to AES-512. It's only real flaw is watermark attacks but there are workarounds which prevent this.

>>8676061
Again, I think what he said is very stupid, but I don't blame him for saying it.
"Hurr America is dumb" is a common sentiment and quite rightly so. But at the same time you shouldn't underestimate highly-trained professionals simply because they're part of the same country/government that apparently doesn't know what a "URL" is.

I'm not American, for what it's worth.

>>8676068

That sounds terrible.

>>8676077
Damn it what do you want?
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2004/08/64464
http://static.usenix.org/events/sec04/tech/dingledine.html
https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#WhyCalledTor
> Tor was born out of the actual onion routing project run by the Naval Research Lab.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_%28anonymity_network%29#History
> Originally sponsored by the US Naval Research Laboratory,

>>8676087
Ok, convinced. I will never use Tor again. Any alternative to enter the edgy deep web?

>>8676080

You don't blame him for being an inept fuck that believes all the bullshit anti-American propaganda, simply because he's not an American?

Fuck you.

>>8676068
I asked this question in a thread some months? ago, but I didn't get a good answer.
Say you tell them you 'forgot' your passcode/login/key. What does the law have against that? Can they put you in jail for 'forgetting' a string of characters?

>>8676096
Go fuck yourself, Ameritard. Just because Hollywood makes your secret services out to be the best there is doesn't actually mean it is in reality.

The CIA had to find out through a newspaper one of the guys they hired to assassinate a political figure was murdered, for fuck's sake.

>>8676033
>>8676087
Old news, and Freenet is funded by google.

Doesn't make them any less secure.

>>8676107
Are you even serious? You can't prove that you forgot, so you lie - jailed.

>>8676110

Whatever you want to believe. I'm guessing you believe whatever intelligence agency or country-wide police force your country has is the greatest in the world, right faggot?

It's not like the CIA or the FBI have done anything for me, I wish their ineptitude was a reality, but since I am not a complete retard, I know it's not the case.

>>8676110

>The CIA had to find out through a newspaper one of the guys they hired to assassinate a political figure was murdered, for fuck's sake.

[citation needed]

If there's unanimity in the society over you being a sicko, the WILL manage to get you in jail.

>>8676128
I find the fact that you seriously believe CIA personnel go through the trouble to find out how to access Exhentai just to find some loli pics hilarious.

>>8676130
Just make a Google search for CIA and inept.

>>8676137

I don't believe that, nor have I ever implied it, you fucking moron.

>>8676107
I think they can charge you with hampering an investigation or something similar to that. I've been told that charge can get you into more trouble than whatever other illegal thing you may have done. I'm not really sure though.

American security services are dumb:
http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/1b-of-nude-body-scanners-made-worthless-by-blog-how
-anyone-can-get-anything-past-the-tsas-nude-body-scanners/

nerds

>>8676576
Fucking nerds on 4chan of all places.

>>8676576
>>8676598
Wazzup jocks? Shall we go wedgie some nerds before end of premier?

Lots of America and Britain in here. But not much talk about Sweden. Then again, the supreme court only sentenced to fines for having lolicon. (I never got the details, but it sounded like he worked on translating doujinshi in his spare time, and someone spotted it.)

Of course this was like all the other cases. It only happened because someone saw the pictures and reported it. It still hasn't been anyone caught at home.

>>8680702
> Lots of America and Britain in here. But not much talk about Sweden.
Gee, I wonder why.
http://www.4chan.org/advertise
> Location: United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Germany, Sweden, France.

>>8680738
I don't get your point. But you do realize those statistics are completely made up, right?

>>8680923
Check the alexa statistics. Percentage population should be accurate enough;
About 38% of 4chan is american nowadays.

>>8680934

No way in hell is it that low.

>>8680975
Majority of 4chan was always not American. Now it's just /jp/.