/jp/ - Otaku Culture

That's awful. I don't know how people can live like that.

Yes.

Do you _HAVE_ to work besides college?

>>8610498
I only wanted to work, but my parents said that I have to study too, it was one of their conditions for hooking me up with the job.

I get a job every 6 months or so to rebuild my funds. I'm more a freeter than a truNEET I guess, even though I'm in neetmode now.

However this is out of necessity and I would certainly become a permanent neet if I had the means.

>>8610504
Why would you not want to just go to college and skip work? University is really chill with the hours.

>>8610504
Fuck that.

European living-off-benefits master race.
It's not even worth me working, I get more in benefits.

The internet will always be here and all those porns/games will still be waiting for you in the end. So it doesn't really matter.

Just do what you got to do. 3 hours of free time is still more than what most people get. Plus you got weekends right?

>>8610512
I just wanted to get a job to buy the Atelier Totori fig that comes out in April and maybe take some Japanese lessons on the side. I'm not interested in college, I had some pretty bad experiences there in 2008 which I why I became a NEET.

>>8610516
>ZUN!bareback

>>8610523
Want to talk about it? And why can't you just find a job yourself instead of taking the one your parents 'hooked you up with'?

>>8610527
I tried looking for one myself but no one ever called back. It's really difficult to fill a 4 year wide gap in a resume, I made up some stuff but maybe it just wasn't believable enough and I didn't know what else to do. I hate college, I tried to take some courses there in 2008 but it was just too hectic, as much as I tried to catch up with the coursework I was always lagging behind the rest of the class and the teacher was a dick.

I tried. I failed. And now I'm even more fucked up than before. I wish I never tried in the first place.

>>8610524
That feel when I was worried and thought you were died.

>>8610523
Good taste in figs like HELL. You'll be fine based off that.

>>8610538
I'm always here, always. Your concern is touching though

IN THE END... IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>8610558
I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT WHEREEEEE

>>8610561
Bro, my favorite song and you butchered the lyrics... how could you

I still think Numb expresses my teenage angst the best.

Yes. After forced to live on my own, I promptly got a full-time minimum wage job so that I could pay for an apartment and food and bills. It has made me more depressed and suicidal, but those few hours I get to sit alone everyday after work reading Touhou doujinshi and listening to music feels relieving. I really want to go back to those times where I was spoiled and didn't have to worry about harsh the real world is.

>>8610598
I know how it feels, Almost a year ago, I had to start working again, I miss playing games and browsing the internet all day. I know one day I'll make a game or something which will get really popular and I will go back to thiose days.

>>8610598
> I really want to go back to those times where I was spoiled and didn't have to worry about harsh the real world is.

Same, I really miss waking up whenever I want and starting up for days. I'm used to my job and all, but working for other people sucks.

Next month I'll go back to school after two dubious years of almost... nothing.
At least a month of a tertiary course on Networks and Telecommunications, and after that I'll switch to another, totally different course if I manage to pass a test.

I won't even be able to study. I don't want this. But I guess it's better than working.

Do any of you ever hate your parents for birthing you into such a shitty world?

When I'm working, I always wanting to go back to becoming a NEET - can't stand the normalfags and morally bankrupt business practices that capitalism inspire.
When I'm NEET'ing, it's vice versa - hate being such a useless leech and anxious about being kicked out.

You just can't win.

>>8610715
I have a love-hate relationship with them. They put up with me, and that's really something. But sometimes they can be really annoying.

For example I got a temporary job in 2010. It was supposed to last 3 months, but I had to quit during the second week. It was a full time night job, so I had to sleep during the day. My family just couldn't come to terms with the fact that a night shift means sleeping during the morning and early afternoon, and kept waking me up, telling me to stop being lazy and help out doing chores. I don't know about other humans, but I can't function without at least several hours of CONTINUED sleep, and I had to quit. Naturally, they somehow blamed it on me

>>8610598
>>8610612
>>8610621
>>8610669

;_;

I'm probably going to have to go back to college to avoid having to get some shitty job. That's probably gonna be autumn... looking to be a part-time online student (ww), as it's probably the minimum I can get away with without having to go out and get a minimum wage job.

Here's my thought on the matter: I have no work experience (never worked, only have a high school diploma, and in my 20's). If I can't get a job that allows me to live a comfortable lifestyle (i.e. not having to scrape by living in a ghetto apartment in a shitty neighbourhood living off ramen), then what's the point of even bothering if you're not forced?

I don't like being a NEET, but I would hate working some shitty job, being talked down to by bosses and customers, all for just the bare minimum for housing and food. Being a cog in someone else's machine, tempted by the prospect of just enough to keep afloat. It's fucking misery sitting around all day on 4chan, but at least you're living life on your own terms. Maybe you're not being useful to yourself, but at least you're not some slave building some Pharaoh's pyramid and being given just enough bread to survive.

If you can take the school route, then do it. Live for yourself. No one else is going to live for you, but if you let them, they'll take everything you have and give you a pittance for it.

>>8610775
It's not so black and white man. Think of it as one day, drudging through being a slave, you are building a path to your own future. You need job experience if you wanna get anywhere in life.

My parents cornered me into go back to studying. They are concerned about how I'll sustain myself once they die, or something like that.

Shitsux and I don't give a shit about this myself, I feel like I should do it for their sake, I can't leech them off their whole lives.

What get on my nerves is how they complain about how unentusiasthic I am about this(well, no shit I am) and how they seriously expect me to become a normalfag.

I lost my job at my local super market that i held for a month. broke down and cried in my car. i just go to college class now, working on being a radeologist. constantly debating suicide. sometimes when things are going good i dont but i can't live on this Ubuntu computer, ramen noodles, and crap food all the time. all i have is my internet, and my dad who takes care of me but we anit rich. if i don't have a gaming computer, and no luck with chicks, there's not much home to cling to, for me to keep going on.

>>8610775
You know, I've been reading some Russian literature. Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky.
The prevalent misery (material, cultural, and moral) in every single story and character is apalling. I can not believe people lived like that.
Now I read your post and I think (not for the first time, and certainly not the last one) about the huge amount of garbage collectors, McDonalds employees, kiosk owners, etc, I see when go outside. About those times I have seen poor, dirty (and I mean dirty), tooth-missing people and their futureless spawn grinning at their new, fresh out-of-the-box, sparkly Chinese cellphones. About the graffiti in no less than 30% of the walls in this city.
I thought the Russians had had problems.

...And I'm (we are, in fact all of us) supposed to go out there.

Man I wish I had parents who would pay my way into school. College is much better than working, shorter hours and at least you feel like you're going "somewhere." While working in a shitty factory all night all you can do is see the old people who have been there for 30 years only making a couple of bucks more than you and imagining yourself being in that position someday.

That crushing thought is a big part of what makes me quit jobs. You don't have to tell me how much school sucks being around people but work is all that+being physically exhausted+a double layer of depression.

>>8610854
At least when you work you are earning money.
When you are studying you are the one who pays to slave yourself everyday for the(slight) possibility of having a job that doesn't suck in the future.

Shit sucks either way.

>>8610836

I'm the Anon you responded to. Not sure what the point you're trying to make is... are you saying that we are expected by society to become similarly mangy wage-slaves?

>>8610815
I can relate, particularly with this
>What get on my nerves is how they complain about how unentusiasthic I am about this(well, no shit I am) and how they seriously expect me to become a normalfag.
At one point she seems to understand I don't/can't actually care much about living (that's what I feel, at any rate) and says she wants to help me try little by little, and the next day she's suddenly suprised by the fact that I don't 'put much effort'.
But I suppose it's justifiable. It's healthier for her to 'forget' I don't have the will to live.

>>8610866
How much money do you think a typical /jp/ guy can make with no education beyond highschool and literally no connections?

I've only had one job that paid over $10/hr.

>>8610775

>>8610598 Here.
I should mention that I have a bachelors in Comp Sci but I never got accepted into a real job because I have no social skills, no motivation to succeed and no prior work experience (that's the only thing employers care about, and if you're a minority). On top of that, I have problems speaking and some minor stuttering. I knew this was my fate ever since I entered college. The only reason I continued attending was to postpone this shitty lifestyle before my parents said it's time for me to go.

Basically, an education or a degree guarantees very little. If you're not being forced into get a job, don't even bother.

Wake up at 6am
fap, bath, breakfast, videogames or anime, in this order.
go to work at 9:15am.
Come back at 5pm.
Sleep at 10pm.
I find this better than;

Wake up at 8am
bath, breakfast.
Go to work
Come back, fap.
Go to bed at 12am.
This way it feels more like I'm wasting more time.


Wake up at 8am
bath,

>>8610883

Definitely. I have no plans to turn any credits I get from online school into a real degree. These days, only having an undergrad degree is absolutely no help whatsoever. To make education useful for employment, it has to be combined with some sort of specialization (teacher's college, apprenticeships, etc) or get a Master's. Every single person I can think of my age or slightly older who had only undergrad wound up getting some job they could have gotten with a high school diploma and some relevant work experience.

>>8610891
Wake up at 3:30
Bathe, make lunch
Go to work at 4:20
Get home at 3:30
Read a VN, watch anime
Go to sleep at 5:00
Wake up at 8:00
Eat
Go to sleep at 9:00

>>8610867
Mostly I just wanted to share my dismay at seeing I'm more or less in the same society that caused me such disgust, read: Dostoyevsky's Russia.
Yes, nowadays it's not that hard to buy something to cover yourself with at night, but we're not that much better off. We don't have to wear our hands off using farm tools, but the shit jobs don't sound any prettier.
I don't know, I'm just rambling, sorry. It's just that everything I have seen outside is dog shit in every single sidewalk, trash scavengers, and people working 12 hours per day who go home to watch the latest shit TV show and sleep, and it's been like that for years. It's seriously pissing me off. This is not like my japanese animays.

>>8610870
You know, my parents love, I have no doubt of this, but while they try to hide it, it's clear they are very disappointed and frustrated of having me as a son. They expected their older son to be a succesful, nice, caring, hard-working guy. Instead, they got a worthless shithead like me.

That's why I need to stop leeching them, it breaks my heart to know that they support me even though I'm such a shitty son, and expected very little in return.

It would be better if I could just move out of this city and they forgot I ever was their son.

I got a job back in September... sure I miss my doing nothing all day lifestyle but the money is nice.

And soon I can move out and put my lewd figures/daki on display instead of hiding them in the closet...

>>8610931
>>8610836
Which Dostoyevsky's books do you recommend?

>>8610961
Not him, but I feel that everyone on /jp/ should read Notes from Underground.

>>8610961
Not him, but I recommend Crime and Punishment and Notes From The Underground.

>people working 12 hours per day who go home to watch the latest shit TV show and sleep, and it's been like that for years

I cringe inwardly when I think about this. I don't even know anyone offline who doesn't live that way.

I think the themes of anime and doujin material tends to shield audiences from a lot of this. I think that the reason there's so much of an emphasis on student life in Japanese fiction is because it's generally seen as the only time a person has any freedom in their adult life, because the future is just endless work, and by the time you get off of that train, you're old and grey, a shuffling gee-san. It's like that in the western world too, it's just that we don't romanticize the high school experience like the Japanese do.

The world Dostoyevsky wrote about is the same as ours. We have the illusion of prosperity because we aren't labouring in fields all day, but we pay for it in other ways. People just walk around empty instead of exhausted for the most part.

>>8610976
This is why I go through great pains to avoid modern society.

I hate this modern world and everything it stands for.

If all the work people did was meaningful, towards a good end then I would not mind it, but 99% of that work goes toward making some jew richer while depriving you of your youthful years.

>>8610994

>mfw the person you replied to is a Jew

>>8610976
And people ask me why I prefer to be an useles piece of shit shut-in. At least I have some freedom and control over my life.

>>8611000
Kikes gonna kike.

Not even surprised at this point, just jaded so much that I can't enjoy many things.

Truly, Hitler should have won the war. I'd rather live in Fascist Germany than in this "progressive" nightmare.

Hey OP, hang in there.
I desperately wanted to return to my NEET lifestyle for a while, but it got better with time. It started coming and going -- would hit me hard for a few weeks and then leave me alone for a month or two. I wouldn't say I'm happy exactly, but I'm number than I was at the beginning, and I feel a lot less cornered then I did when I was a NEET (parental harassment, guilt, poorfaggotry, etc).

I worked an 8 hour job last year, it took me one hour to commute and all I did was listen to people yell at me. All I did was work and when I came home I was so tired and depressed I'd just fall asleep until I had to go to work again. I somehow managed to go back to college this year for an useless masters degree but just thinking that I probably have to go back to that life sends shivers down my spine.

>>8610961
If you're the 'depressive-type', I'd advise to stay away from the guy, and I'm not saying this just because this is 4chan.
But if you want to read something, I'd 'recommend' his short stories. "The Heavenly Christmas Tree" for a quick heads-up about the feel of his stories.
One of them is unexpectedly beautiful, though. White Nights. Christ.
"My God, a whole moment of happiness! Is that too little for the whole of a man’s life?"
That has more or less become an unconscious litany for me. But I'd have to say that yes, only months after that moment, it feels it is indeed too little. But at the same time, I remember at that point I felt it was enough. That helps me keep going.
I'm rambling again.

>>8610976
I read you, Anon.

>>8610961
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Nights_%28short_story%29

>>8611039
I am the 'depressive-type' but I'm just too curious to not give a try.

>>8611076
To be honest it has helped me more than depressed me. But it's just that... it's not Poe-macabre or Lovecraft-bizarre. Sorry, I'm not knowledgeable enough for more comparisons.
It's... it's misery. Emotional and physical... misery.
Again, The Heavenly Christmas Tree for a spook, and White Nights for some tears.
And I just remembered "The Jealous Husband". I laughed my ass off at the part with the dog.

>>8611105
Thanks for your help, I'm going to borrow them tommorow.

A job requiring only 2 days of my week which I do while browsing the house from my basement was handed to me.
I'm not a NEET anymore but it sure isn't real life either.

existential dread as religious ritual

>>8611169
Tell us your secrets, oh Anon.

If you don't feel ready for school or work, you're not ready. That's the excuse I keep telling myself anyway.

>>8611169
Please.
Teach me your ways

Sweet Jesus, I haven't even started college yet and you all disgust me. You sons of bitches are nauseating, bottom feeding scumbags who are willing to go through life doing nothing but make excuses on why you'll never asking to anything in life, and complain that its hopeless for you because you're all apparently incapable of doing any job that a certifiable retard could do. I'm starting college courses soon. will it be hard? sure. Will I succeed? Maybe, but either way I'll still have tried harder than any of you shitstains have in your lives.

>>8611333
Go to bed, Billy.

>>8611339
Kindly explain to this newfag what you're talking about.

>>8611333
holy shit that's one tough guy if I ever saw one
Are you in the army by any chance?

>>8611372
I'm far from a tough guy, don't worry. I didn't mean to sound arrogant, I was just really disgusted when I posted that

>>8611257
The honest truth is that it's the other way around. Nobody is ever "ready" for school or work - but you learn discipline and do it anyway, and benefit from it. It's very difficult to do once you've let yourself slip, as I know from personal experience. It's much harder to take that one step forward when you've taken 20 steps backwards. But once you conquer that part of you, you'll be strong. If you can overcome that heavy part of you that is dragging you down and holding you back you'll be somebody you can take pride in at least.

>>8611387
My honest advice: It's not your life, we will likely die poor and alone, you shouldn't care, stop being sensitive about it.

>>8611333
I was an A student in college, but that didn't help me for shit. I wish I had gone to a technical school first and gotten some experience, since its the first requirement in any job I see on the online job boards.

>>8611409

What's your degree in?

Joined Navy
Work 16 hour day
You would never understand my hate

>>8611409
You're supposed to get internships while you're in school. A lot of requirements will also accept the equivalent experience which they may count as time in school if you can show you've learned what you might encounter in the workplace.

If you can put in the effort, I think that "Notes from Underground" by Dostoevsky is practically written for /jp/. It's short, but it isn't a quick read at all - it's meant for you to slowly and carefully ponder and absorb it while you go on a mental journey with this character... that I think all of us here on this board will find is very easy to identify with.

>>8611479
I Identified more with the loony from Crime and Punishment.

>>8611504
>>8611479
For me, White Nights was what spoke to me.

I haven't read much of his other works, but it's hard to tell if this is good for me or bad for me. Am I more cynical? Or am I actually coming to terms with the realities of my life and the world around me? By coming to terms with it, am I becoming happier? It sort of feels that way, but at the same time it doesn't. Why is that such a difficult question to answer? Shouldn't it be easy to tell if you are happier?

>>8611427
Can't you quit the navy if you really hate it?

>>8611599
Not him, but if you don't serve out the time you agreed to, you'll lose all the benefits, which makes the time you've spent there a waste. If he stays in, he'll get the veterans benefits when he leaves, and will have job experience to put on his resume if he needs it.

You should consider quitting one of them.

>wanted to work
kill yoselves back to whereever yo come from
/jp/ is fo real niggaz

>>8611684
Aren't you too young to be on 4chan?

>>8611694
no, why?

I am not a NEET but I dont have a fulltime job either. I think you can classify me as a contractor or some sort of mercenary.
Basically I take short term 3months job. Problem is in the 3months I have to work like a dog/slave. No leave & no sick leave if you do take it, they deduct it from your salary.
Good thing about this, the 3months that I work can basically cover the expenses of the whole year and you get to travel around. But yeah working suck, I wish I can return to my student year of just playing around for the whole day.

Why feel "guilty" about not doing anything with your life? Doing what? Nothing you do will ever contribute to society in any major way. "Pride"? "Discipline"? Useless words normals have come up with to try and justify their meaningless existence; it's at least as meaningless as ours. Besides rearing a few strapping young monkeys to rape the earth, what have the normals contributed? Shit. Shit nothing.

Scrape up money or housing, however you can.

All that's left to do in this world is take it easy.

Jesus fuck this thread is depressing. I have not worked a day in my life. I will literally have to though to pay off my student loans for a university I dropped out of.
And that terrifies the hell out of me.

> "Oh, you are right at the first guess!" I answered, delighted that my girl had intelligence; that is never out of place in company with beauty. "Yes, from the first glance you have guessed the sort of man you have to do with. Precisely; I am shy with women, I am agitated, I don't deny it, as much so as you were a minute ago when that gentleman alarmed you. I am in some alarm now. It's like a dream, and I never guessed even in my sleep that I should ever talk with any woman."

> "What? Really?..."

> "Yes; if my arm trembles, it is because it has never been held by a pretty little hand like yours. I am a complete stranger to women; that is, I have never been used to them. You see, I am alone.... I don't even know how to talk to them. Here, I don't know now whether I have not said something silly to you! Tell me frankly; I assure you beforehand that I am not quick to take offence?..."

/jp/, the society novel.

Oh, it's this thread again.

I am a dropout of college, and I've spent my whole life being forced by my parents to become a normalfag. They are obsessed with the idea of normality, and I happen to hate everything that represents that. When I graduated from highschool, they literally kicked me out when I said I wasn't going to the party. I had to live at my aunt's house for a week. The whole world seems to want me to become a normalfag. Then thing is, I'd rather die than accept normalfaggotry. I've been working a dead-end job for almost a year, but what I earn is nowhere near to live by myself if I had to rent a room. I'm contemplating suicide, but I really don't want to do that. However, I don't see any way out of this other than that.

>>8611599
Employers usually don't like it when you left the military with anything other than an honorable discharge.

>>8612852
3 on 9 off doesn't sound so bad, considering all the time you lose commuting in a regular job. What job is it?

I have to WORK
Shit sucks, I want to kill myself. But I also wanted to when I was a NEET.
I am a failure no matter what.

>>8613582

Tell us your story, Anon. Why did you come to hate normalfaggotry so much that you would resist it till the bitter end?

>>8610486
I've never been NEET.
I did give up on college though, just got a nice job that lets me coast. Work 30-40 a week, spend the rest on whatever the fuck digital distraction suits my fancy.

I don't plan on changing this lifestyle.
Ever.
In fact, I hope I die at my computer. Preferably with my penis out.

>>8613602
RF Engineer/Network optimization engineer.
You would actually need a degree and actually know what you are doing. After that, you just stay at home and wait for the headhunter to call you to offer their contract. Most of these jobs are short term since they just need you during the network launch or during some trial.
Still suck though.

I dropped out of college because I couldn't deal with having to go outside almost every day of the week. It was terrible. I couldn't sleep at night if it was a school night, had to spend several hours prepping myself up before leaving the apartment. I wasn't even taking any classes that required public speaking or group work, they were all math classes. After a few months of doing this I had to take a break, so I took a one year leave, the longest they let me take, and never went back after I was supposed to.

I wish I had the means to be a neet. I barely have time to brush my teeth and sleep, I don't play games anymore, haven't played piano in ages, so I sold it.

And the worst thing is, I should be happy with what I'm doing, because it's "much better" than working for the minimum wage 24/7, but I'm not, as I will spend my scarce free time in the same way, in front of a computer.

Something must be very wrong with myself. It doesn't matter what I do, I don't feel fulfilled.

Wish I had a prescription for dem pills so I could feel numb.

>>8612902
>Scrape up money or housing, however you can.
But what will you do when you get old and weak?, you won't be able to take it easy without a decent pension.

All through high school, all I wanted to do was survive high school. That ended. I graduated. No idea what to do next. Spent 2009 and 2010 doing nothing but vidya and internet, spending some time with some idiots. I got a girlfriend, but that ended in a wreck. Afterwards I became an even worse NEET/hikkikimori, and refused to shave or wash, or leave bed. Soon after I got a job at a warehouse cutting boxes open all day long without any possibility to see any friends or anything, I was alone. After a while, I quit that due to stress (mom was in hospital, dying, among other issues). Later in the spring I got a new job at a pizza restaurant. Wonderful hours, got to see my friends almost every week. By this time I was 100% clean. No junk food, alcohol, soda, etc. Tossed out my pile of disgusting old clothes from 5th-12th grade, and went out and bought some new ones. Got a haircut, shaved. Then the place shut down due to failing during a blizzard in October. Since then I've worked at a retirement home as a dishwasher and now I am going to start at a supermarket. Also going out with friends almost every night. So yeah, I think I've escaped NEETdom. I could never live like that, it's disgusting. I am thinking about college, but not quite sure what I'd major in, plus I want to get my own car and pay for my tuition first. Life is pretty good now. OP, don't live like that.

>>8612902
I agree 100%. Life is meaningless, most normals only live to enrich the few jews that control everything.

Modern life is trully a hellish pit devoid of meaning.

That said, I endeavor to take it easy and consume all this media, from all over the world, that is readily available at my fingertips.

>>8620385

Oops, forgot to mention that my mom made it through and survived.

>>8620426

I agree. There's nothing left to explore, no adventure left (unless you yourself pay for it). To get a job now you have to fill out applications, wait, and go in and have an interview. And then again, everything you use to buy with the money from said job is to make life easier.

I like how people in this thread think this entire thread isn't the same copypasta stories being reposted over and over again. /jp/ DOESN'T HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE. STOP RESPONDING TO THIS CRAP.

>>8620385
>tumblr
>going out with friends every night.

Get the fuck out. Now.

>>8620385
Reported for off-topic post.

>>8620385
No one is that dumb enough to post that on /jp/.

>>8620558
The world is full of people you can barely imagine.

>>8620490
you still believe /jp/ consists of only 20 people? You poor thing. well yes, about 20 or so regular posters but there are plenty of lurkers

Was NEET until 23, then got tired of the parents bitching, and the obvious lack of jobs for someone with no job experience, and said what the hell, I'll try to be normal, joined the Air Force.

Three years in, shit is pretty miserable. Job is something I don't particularly care for, the base is a dead wasteland, and I have to keep up this facade of being at least semi-sociable 5 days a week, from 7am to 5pm. Decided to work on getting a discharge, even though it will be a General Under Honorable.

I may have to live off of unemployment for a while, but it's worth it. Relish the time you have as a NEET, because it sucks to have your life set on train tracks, with no power over the controls.

>>8620689
what afsc and how long a contract?

>>8620716
3D1X2, was dead set to go 4 years, because I figured I could make it that long, but as a naturally meek person, especially at the time when the amount of people I talked to per week before joining was basically only my parents and the recruiter, the Techs and Master Sergeants over at MEPS probably smelled blood, coerced me into a 6 year contract. Not a day goes by that I do not think of that moment with seething resentment.

Could have done 4, like I thought, I'd rather injure myself enough for a medical discharge than stay for the 6, though.

>>8620585
Lurkers like me.
Lurk lurk lurk lurk lurk..

>>8620747
>Fighting for jews in a desert.

I never though /jp/ could sink this low.

There are so many feels in this thread I don't even have to post my sad frog story.

yes. muay thai helped, i became less sensitive about every little thing. graduating college helped as well, which lead to serious employment.

At least you lasted more than 6 months, heh. (OCS wash out here)

>>8620767
I've never deployed, and the one time they tried, I got on a waiver to be non-deployable.

The only thing you can blame me for is taking taxpayer money, but then again, that would pretty much be the kettle calling the pot black.

>>8620747
My condolences. I didn't realize they pushed the 6 that hard. Then again, with the types of people they put in recruiter roles, it must come naturally to them. I'm sure I'd be pulling my hair out doing IT everyday too.

>>8620585

Lurker here, just thought I'd pop in and say hi.

I don't plan on doing any real contributing until I finish learning japanese.

>>8620922
Post more.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-five-regrets-of-the-dying

My only hope is that I will have enough courage to kill myself before I am forced to get a job.

I have been a welfare NEET for about 6 months now after finishing conscription.

I recently got into a university in Estonia. (I live in Finland) So I´ll have to move there next summer. Kinda expecting the change of scenery so thats going to be nice. Plus its cheaper there.

On the other hand my parents are going to have to pay a lot of money for my studies there as its not free like in Finland. But its very hard to get to study politics or international relations in Finland so I took the easy route.

I am not expecting very good employment chances from this line of studies, but its the only thing that interests me even a little bit so. Hope I dont get mugged or something similar as its a post-soviet country.

I have been looking for jobs lately, just cant seem to find many jobs I think I can handle. Been to couple interviews, but didnt work out.

>>8610961
To expand on this question a bit, any which Russian authors would you guys recommend?

Not >>8610961.

I want to get a job in Antarctica. I can work there through the Winter and spend the rest of the year at home living the life.

>>8610516
How do you find the time to post here? Doesn't the military take up most of your time?

>>8612902
>what have the normals contributed?
The society that you live that allows you to have a computer to shitpost on the internet with as well as that computer? You sound like you hate society but you don't mind using it. No actually you sound like a child with a "me me me" mentality.

Wish I could get to know some of you guys.

I have been a NEET for a long time now, at 3 and a half years. I am from England. It drives me crazy. It was great at first, having freedom to do as you please, but now the height of my day is when I get to be asleep, or when I'm sat on the roof with a cup of tea.

Though, it is nice being able to work on hobbies freely, and work out happily, for as long as I want without being disturbed. I had a long time to myself to work on myself and shape myself to how I want to be.

Which is funny because I still haven't taken that person out into the world yet.

It is lonely having no one to talk to who is in my situation.

You get a job. I have one making burgers myself.

>>8624724
Right. Because society advances on the behest of normals, and not true hikkineets who just have their good ideas duplicated and regurgitated mindlessly by the normal masses.

Oh wait.

>>8624724
The best pioneers were hermits. We may not be the people keeping food supplies going, but one of us will get so bored we accidentally cure cancer or form the next Google. You just mark my words.

>>8624875
Name one worthwhile thing that was invented by a permavirgin like you.

I really hate being a leech. And I don't mean it in the traditional sense... getting a job is not that difficult, I'm talking about being a leech here, on /jp/. Being a NEET/hikki/loser in general wouldn't be so depressing if I had an ounce of talent and something to give back. I wish I could draw, translate, or write interesting stories. Has anyone here managed to pick up any skills while browsing 4chan, without attending classes or anything? What books or guides would you recommend?

>>8624875
You dumb faggot, why not go out and get your dick wet instead of twiddling your thumbs around doing nothing all day? You instantly become good at everything once you lose your virginity, if not for us normals, you would never have internet or computers.

>>8624898
You're a fucking retard. Sex is something the lowest of animals can do, why do you think it makes you special?

>>8624898
I like this argument because I'm one of the few non-virgins on /jp/ (and ashamed of it, don't worry). I had sex multiple times with a loving girlfriend who was both attractive and good at sex (as far as I was aware). And I wish I had spent that time watching anime and playing eroge instead. Sex is overrated as fuck, and losing my virginity has made me feel guilty, not manly.

I get that you were probably being tongue-in-cheek.

>>8623125
Are you going to have to learn Estonian?

A NEET and self-loathing thread, is it? I can get in on this. I can't sleep anyway. I hope you like long posts.

My entire life is like a bad joke.

It's not like I have low self-esteem, that I'm stupid or that I'm ugly. Instead, the worst thing about me is my terrible luck. My entire life I've been screwed over by people - not because I did something stupid, but because I just happened to be in such a bad situation that was impossible to escape from.

I'll spare you the details, but after a childhood completely ruined by my parents, and with what interactions with other humans that I managed to get, I turned out to be the human hating/fearing person that I am with at least a dozen mental disorders.

>>8625205
So yeah, I'm a NEET. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't interact with other people. No one understands why I do the things that I do - why I put on rubber gloves to touch something that's obviously clean, why I wash my hands every 10 minutes. People think it's rude that I refuse to shake their hand, and I can't explain to them that it's because I'm fucked in the head.

I got into another bad situation, though. I applied and got accepted into a college, going to take the entrance exam tomorrow. I applied for a job, and I still need to call the place. I've needed to call the place for a week now - a week of my brother pestering me to do it, reminding me every hour like I'm some lazy shit who would just forget. I can't tell him that the reason why I don't pick up the phone is because I'm terrified of people - he would never understand. It's much easier to just let him think that I'm a worthless human, and while it's still true that I am, it's true for different, more justifiable reasons.

>>8625213
I should be asleep now, actually. I need to wake up in 7 hours. I'm too afraid to sleep. Tomorrow I'll have to go outside - I'll have to not only be around strangers, but also talk to them. I'll have to try as hard as I possibly can to not do the things that I do when I'm anxious like playing with my hair or putting my finger to my lips because I know -or at least suspect- that people recognize that I'm a NEET when I do that. I think, wrongly, that taking a step too long or too short, by breathing at a pace not plotted out ahead of time, that people will hate me and that everything will fall apart.

I've told people that I'm like this, of course. It hasn't helped. They try to help in the dumbest ways possible. "You're just shy" the think. "You need to be around people more" they tell me. It's insulting, really - if it were that easy then I would have done it. How inept do they think I am to assume that I haven't tried things like that? Do I really appear to be the way that I think I do?

I just want to be left alone, but I don't think that will ever happen.

At some point I'm going to have to hand a CV to an employer, and they're going to ask why a man in his mid-twenties has never worked a day in his life beyond two weeks of work experience at a primary school over a decade ago.

>>8610967
>>8610971
>Notes from the Underground.

/jp/ IS the main character. In every way possible. It was eerie reading through the story.

As for recommendations, Crime and Punishment, since Raskolnikov will also remind some /jp/sies about themselves; The House of the Dead, inspired by the time he spent inside a Siberian gulag; and The Brothers Karamazov.

Leave Karamazov for last, as it is his greatest work, after you read it you won't be able to enjoy his other works.

>>8625263
I'll have to agree with this.
Crime and Punishment is the best place to start with Dostoevsky.

>>8625225
1) The economy's been shit
2) Lie

Jobs will say that they require N years of experience with XYZ. But if you get the job with 0 experience, it just proves that they were lying the whole time.

>>8610867
An addendum to what you say.

A lot of people in the high paying jobs aren't much better off, internally, I mean.

Their work becomes their life, they lose themselves over time, not to mention the complete lack of free time and the huge amount of responsibility such high-paying work entails. If you really love what you are doing, in a field like medicine for example, then great, all the better for you.

If you chase after a hgih-paying job, then please, don't end up a soulless lawyer or investment banker.

And if you haven't noticed, modern america is going the way of the repressive Soviet Union.

9/11 was America's version of the Bolshevik Revolution.

>>8625270
>>8625263
>/jp/ making better recommendations than /lit/

>>8625307
Naw, /lit/ is actually the best board on 4chan.

>>8625307
/lit/ is filled with children, like most of 4chan.

The first months were good, but then a wave of shitposters took over, and all the good posters left.

>>8625307
/jp/ will get revenge for /lit/ taking arc, whom is black

>>8625307
Probably because we don't know shit and don't pretend we do. Every board is the worst at its own topics, even /jp/. The best discussions actually happen when off-boarders discuss a subject with their own, fresh perspective. My favorite 4chan threads have actually been the board-to-board ones like those Magical Mystery Tours /mu/ used to do. It was amazing to see a few people from /ck/ discussing films, for example.

>>8625324
>all the good posters left
But I'm still there?

>>8625324
I'm still there.

>>8625364
>>8625384
But you're the same people and/or in cahoots.

I'm not a NEET, since I go to college, but I hate every second I have to be there. I'm just not compatible with most people, and at such a place everyone expects you to be a social butterfly.

This has led to untold amounts of stress, to the point where I am burned out, and no longer care. I realize this is bad, since I can't have a decent future without it, but I just don't know what to do. I already tried working, and the pay was shit, not to mention how everyone treats you like shit and ridicules you for even making the slightest mistake.

Not my personal blog, I know.

What the fuck did people do before we had all these drugs and psychiatrists and stuff? Obviously things like depression/melancholia go back millennia, but did people just work and get stressed and deal with it? Or did they not write about their feelings because that was GAY or they couldn't afford pencils or whatever?

>>8625523
Most people back in those times had no free time to sit and reflect on their lives and the world around them.

They quite often worked themselves into an early grave. As for things like relationships and marriage they were kind of forced into it, since everyone else did it, and your kids would be the ones to care for you if you were sick or unable to work.

>>8625523
Exorcisms.

Age. Because NEET, depression and Russia are things to be discussed on /jp/.

>>8627173
Why doesn't this thread go up, goddammit.

>>8625523

Depression is a perfectly normal state of being; this is the thing that people seem to not understand. It is in no way illogical or unnatural to be depressed.

Doing virtually nothing all day is the good life, no matter whomever tells you otherwise, by the way. I'm only in college because it delays my having to get a real job. I'll probably go for a masters after to do the same.

>>8625458
On the positive side, Otacon is awesome

>>8625523
They got religion. Whenever there was something wrong in their lives they could pick up a book and read how they should think about it. Or go to church pray and shit. As in western middle ages everyone was just waiting for death.

Been working for the same company for 6 years now. Started off doing Night work in the warehouse. hated it, 10 at night till 7 am, but at least I was more or less left alone.
When the recession really started to bite, they stopped replacing the people that left, and started forcing more work on the ones that stuck around. Eventually, about 2 years back, trying to keep up with it fucked my shoulder up, and I got a supposedly cushy job as a butcher with them, as an apology (too timid to try getting anything more out of them than that).

Was better hours, but involved people, and ended up spending more and more of my money on opiates to make dealing with people more bearable, and would imagine it was the customers I was hacking up to calm myself down.

Then last year my mother died. It was pretty much my fault, she had an allergic reaction to some antibiotics I'd given her, as she couldn't get any proscribed, her being allergic and all. She told me all would happen would she'd come up in a rash. Two weeks later she was dead.

This led to me getting diagnosed with depression, and I spent some time off work, the drugs do fuck all.. Tried going back to work last year, only lasted for about a month before I nearly went for a guy with a meat cleaver for looking at me funny. Been off sick since then, don't feel any better, and wondering if I can find a job that doesn't result in me seriously wanting to kill myself/others.
gonna need to figure out something soon, as I'm down to £0.32 in my bank account and just the food I've got in the cupboards.
Least I've got another two weeks or so until they cut my internet.

>>8627268
Why are you slaving yourself just for food, house and to be alive?
Is it worth it? Gensokyo is waiting for you anywhere.
If you want your recycled japanese entertainment/escapism then suck it up on your job.

>>8627284
>suck it up on your job
I tried that part, remember?
I stalked a guy with a blood stained meatcleaver.
That job simply isn't viable until I manage to stop feeling homicidal because someone looked at me.

>>8627294
>feeling homicidal
Learn to take it easy. I mean if you are in 4chan long enough, you are pretty much desensitize to everything.

>>8627268
Looks like you have to stop playing by the rules of the system, or go to Gensokyo.

>>8627268
You are cute, anon. I would take you home and you can take it easy as long as you like.

>>8625072

No its all in english.

>>8620385
having a car is nothing good. Its just an extra pile of expenses, worries and wasted time.

everything else you can do without being a normalfag.