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Do you try your best to be kind when you speak to others on the internet?

I hope you are not a bully.

>> No.8513162

no

>> No.8513166

>>8513153
Do you try your best not to shitpost on /jp/?
I hope you are not a shitposter.

>> No.8513172

I don't try to be "kind", but I do try not to be an asshole unless I'm buttangered.

>> No.8513173 [DELETED] 

Sometimes I type up nasty flames at /jp/ or I get baited by trolls, then I just delete my post. I often type up several paragraphs of an argument then just before I hit "Submit" I think, "Wait, do I really want to post this?" and decide not to. Throwing away posts like this often feels a lot more satisfying and productive than making long, on-topic posts. I suggest you all pursue the same line of thinking before you post something, it really does make your /jp/ experience (and /jp/ itself) a nicer place.

>> No.8513182

I try my best to be kind. We are all in the same boat after all. I would hope that others try to be kind as well, and not become rude or crass simply because they have the protection of anonymity.

>> No.8513179

My kindness to someone is inversely proportional to how friendly I am with them.

>> No.8513188

I am friendly by default, unless I actively try not to be. After all, taking it easy is more important.

>> No.8513191

I try to... but it's not working to well.

>> No.8513193

>she's so hard!

>> No.8513196

No.
Because I fake kindness irl, so I end up acting like a dick on the internet.

In fact, I hereby apoligize to all people I unjustly insulted here. If I bullied you, don't take it personally.
But of course if you deserved it, I'm not going to apologize.

>> No.8513198

I am a gentleman.

>> No.8513204

Is this like a new chubby thread with wriggle? Because I fucking love wriggle.

>> No.8513207

I always try to be friendly but somewhat comes of as a jerk. both irl and here

>> No.8513202

>>8513196
It's okay, I forgive you.

>> No.8513208

I always take it easy.

>> No.8513212

On most sites, yes.
On 4chan, no.

I can be a dick here without repercussions and it's nice because I get sick of being a nice person sometimes.

>> No.8513213
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8513213

I'm nice

>> No.8513219 [DELETED] 

I use sage because it's polite.

>> No.8513220

>>8513213
No, you are not

>> No.8513221

Unless you are forced into RL issues and therefore you need to relieve your stress here, you should be kind to your peers. /a/b/v/ denizens and other shits do not count as peers.

>> No.8513225

>>8513173

I use this exact method of self-evaluation. Then I realize that due to that practice, I've probably only made fifty posts in six years on this useless site.

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>>8513204
>_>

>> No.8513229

>>8513225

But I bet you've spent countless hours lurking here.

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8513231

I am pretty fine with /jp/ and everyone,since I got my own idol/blog thread

Cant even remember when was the last time i shit posted o.O

>> No.8513232

>>8513223
What is going on with her right eye?

>> No.8513235

>>8513225
I should make some documentation about "lurking syndrome"

>> No.8513237 [DELETED] 

>>8513225
But you can take pride knowing those posts were worthwhile. That's why slow boards have a higher signal-to-noise ratio than fast ones. A lot of people from /a/, /v/ or /g/ come to /jp/ and seem to post in every thread out of obligation. I would imagine many of them constantly refresh the front page or Catalog with a non-tongue-in-cheek "ALL THREADS MUST BE REPLIED TO" mentality. It's actually a real shame.

>> No.8513247 [DELETED] 

>>8513232
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabismus

>>8513235
It affects the best of us.
A fun thing I think everyone should do is not post for at least a week or so. Even if you have been here for years. Mess up your hosts file or iptables like I did so that sys.4chan.org no longer works properly. Do not post at all, even if you have the answer to someone's question or desperately want to reply to something. It can be quite enlightening.

>> No.8513269

I try to be nice always but if someome is really being a jerk it's hard to resist calling them a poop licker.

>> No.8513393

>>8513212

>because I get sick of being a nice person

If you can get sick of being nice then you weren't really nice in the first place

>> No.8513399
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8513399

im calm as HELL when talkin to other famous denizens of /jp/

>> No.8513405

>>8513153
Why would I do that.
I already pretend to be polite and kind IRL.
The internet is my outlet to say things that I will never say IRL. I do not tell a person straight about how stupid he is IRL but I will do it on the internet. Feelings do not get hurt on the internet.

>> No.8513407

>>8513405
Sometimes they do, you know. A lot of /jp/sies are emotionally fragile.

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8513422

I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I bullied someone.

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>>8513407
im sensitive as HELL kinda

>> No.8513443

Kindness is unnecessary baggage that prevents clear communication. If I want to say someone's idea sucks, I say it sucks. If I say I like someone's idea, that actually means I like his idea, not that I'm just trying to be nice. I am "kind" in that I will help people, but I am not "kind" as in not saying things people do not want to hear.

It bothers me that people try to be kind on here. It's an increasing trend that people on here are too nice out of obligation. In real life I can understand (there I'm all nice as well), but this is the fucking internet. If I ask for feedback on something, I don't want to hear 'it's nice'. I want you to tell me it sucks and why it sucks. Preferably make a large rant out of it. Stop being so fucking nice and tell me the truth.

If I wanted people to be nice, I'd go to a regular forum. But increasingly on /jp/ the userbase is further polarizing to 'people who call anything shit' and 'people who wouldn't even tell you they didn't fully enjoy it'.

>> No.8513446

Fuck you.

>> No.8513453

I am polite to almost everybody who is making an effort to be polite. With people who are anything less than perfectly demure I frequently end up flaming the shit out of them in a highly non-constructive manner. Sometimes I feel bad about it.

>> No.8513464

>>8513453
Better scratch the "making an effort" part since there are people who make efforts and fail wildly. Maybe it should just read "perfectly polite."

>> No.8513471 [DELETED] 

>>8513443
This, although I extend(ed) this to real life. My (former) best friend and I could talk at length about anything. If I were to hand you a transcript of one of our conversations, you would think we're both dickholes who hated each other. However it's because we were so honest with one another that led us to be such good friends and trust one another. Up until meeting her people would have asked me, "Hey Anon, what do you think of this hat?" and I would have said, "Oh it's nice," then wondered why people didn't like me more for saying good things. Then I met said friend and she was both honest with me and taught me to be honest with her. It made our friendship more satisfying as a result, because I could trust her opinion and she could trust mine. Though as a final note both of us probably have some form of autism--I haven't been in contact with her in a while because fuck real life.
Anyway, on the Internet there's no such reason for such niceties. You don't have to be polite to people. As >>8513443 said, an emerging trend here seems to be people being kind to one another, particularly newbies. That's not how people learn. That's why people expect spoonfeeding and hold you all hostage with request threads under the promise of, "I'll delete my thread once I get a response." Being kind to people isn't a good thing--it's actually quite harmful. You guys should practise being more honest towards posters. They're not going to lash out at you, and even if they did, so what? It's the Internet. You shouldn't feel the anxieties and pressures you feel in real life.

>> No.8513474

When I first discovered anonymous imageboards I was an asshole to everyone just because I could. I grew out of it soon. I try not to be an asshole to people because I don't like it when people are assholes to me or to others, both in real life and on the internet. If you think the only use of anonymity is to be an asshole then you need to revise your way of thinking.

>>8513443
Being kind doesn't equal being hypocrite. You can say what you think without being a retard about it.

>>8513405
>Feelings do not get hurt on the internet.
Yes, they do. There's a person just like you on the other side of the connection, not a bot.

>>8513221
Basically this.

>> No.8513475 [DELETED] 

>>8513471
Though of course this applies for the opposite. Don't flame people just for the sake of being a dick. You're (hopefully) over 18 and should have worked all that out of your system by now. If someone is acting like an idiot or whatever, tell them, but don't be aggressive about it. Tell people to lurk more but don't ramble on at them how they're off-board subhuman scum--not even ironically. That just leads to more people trolling because they know they can get a satisfactory response.

>> No.8513484

>>8513474
>Yes, they do. There's a person just like you on the other side of the connection, not a bot.
The fuck are you talking about you?
Nobody take the internet seriously. This is 4chan for fuck sake. You should stick with GAIA faggot.

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>>8513484
This but with less cursing. This comic has never been more apt. I have the same bored face and feel the same sense of boredom and obligation whether I'm typing, "Yay! Thank you so much for this!!!" or whether I'm typing, "Jesus fucking Christ, could you be any more retarded?"
Though of course trolls don't care because they just want a response, and frankly I don't blame them.

>> No.8513512

>>8513484
This is the only outlet of socialization for a lot of our resident shut-ins. It's really awful when the only people you can open up to treat you like crap and it isn't good for your mental health. Go be a poop licker somewhwre else.

>> No.8513528

>>8513512
Are you new here?
The resident shut-ins here are the most hardcore board police and elitists here. Go be nice somewhere else. 4chan is not a place for you to find friends. You are looking at Facebook.

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8513542

It's very easy to be mean, it's very difficult to be nice.

I am a proponent of anonymous message boards, and I hate to admit it, but yes, I am way meaner on anonymous boards than boards where I'm registered.

On the subject of online games, I have noticed a small number of jaded and cynical personalities among /jp/ers. They feel that they need to treat you like shit in order to "keep it real" and that any sort of 'kindness' qualifies as being "phony" and "superficial" and call you a "carebear" if you complain about it. These people are very extreme in their ideology, they definitely cannot take it easy and should be avoided.

>> No.8513555

>>8513528
>The resident shut-ins here are the most hardcore board police and elitists here.
Only the loud ones. There are a fair number of quiet ones with anxiety issues, who of course know that everyone on the internet is an asshole and nothing is meant personally since they weren't born yesterday, but whose anxiety issues carry over to the internet anyway. This is the only reason I'm not a huge douche to everyone all the time.

>> No.8513561

>>8513443
I don't think being kind means that one cannot clearly communicate and be honest. In fact, I would say that telling the truth about things is a part of being kind. I'd consider it a favor. It's fine to be critical of others and say their idea sucks without sugar coating it, I just don't think there is a need to say something like "this is so bad you should kill yourself", you know?

>> No.8513566

>>8513528
I grew out of my board police phase years ago. I don't like making the only place I talk to people at into a hostile environment.

>> No.8513574

>>8513484
Go back to /b/ retard, trying to act like a tough internet guy isn't cool around here.

>>8513528
While nobody here wants to make friends because we are unsocial in the first place, most of us have real life problems and we stay here to talk about our hobbies, not to watch people throwing shit at everyone else. Go be an angry teenager somewhere else.

>> No.8513612

>>8513574
>trying to act like a tough internet guy isn't cool around here.
>/b/ retard
>angry teenager
Calling someone else a retard and a teenager is considered being nice?
Please, stop being a hypocrite.

>> No.8513649

>>8513561
I never said I was an asshole, I just said I am not nice. When I tell somebody their story sucks, I don't add an obligatory 'but it definitely has potential! Just write more and you'll improve' when I don't honestly feel there's any serious potential in there. I just tell them their story sucks.

Ad hominems and other ways of lashing out at people are as much a hindrance to communication as being nice is. When taken to extremes you have the people only saying 'faggot' and 'lol kill yourself' on one side, and the people calling everything great and agreeing with everyone on the other side. People should just say what they feel, no unnecessary kindness or insults.

>> No.8513671

there is no point in being "kind," but there is a point in being supportive. there is no point in being "mean."

being neutral and logical is best. anyone is free to like and dislike, but criticism without clear rationale is pointless, as are emotional arguments. the only reason being supportive is good is that it promotes productivity.

but most people just like to hate for fun, because bullying is more entertaining. and some people legitimately want others off the board.

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>>8513153
of course i do ^^

>> No.8513687

What's wrong with Rumia?

>> No.8513716 [DELETED] 
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>>8513649
This this this.

Take this expert MS Paint image I just made.
"A" is outright flaming: "Fuck you faggot"-style /b/ responses filled with pointless hatred. "C" is being super nice and welcoming everyone with open arms, the kind of thing you see on a forum desperately trying to please everyone and attract new members. "B" is neutral and honest. You don't make any extra effort to be kind nor to flame. If you were looking for genuine criticism, "B" is the most obvious choice. You would trust Person B's word over Person A or Person C's.
For a board like /jp/, "B" and a small region both to the left and right (though perhaps more so to the right) are ideal. You don't have to qualify your posts with nice words, though you don't have to be a dick to people either. Maybe a little bit of harshness is healthy because elitism is good for /jp/, but don't delve into angsty teen territory. Conversely being nice in moderation is okay, but too many people seem eager to please and it's more annoying than flaming since people take it seriously.
Too many regulars seem to tend far too much towards "C" lately, and I'm not sure why. I say "lately" but it's probably not a recent development--I've just noticed it more.

>> No.8513732

>>8513687
Looks like it's daytime, so she's probably sleepy.

>> No.8513747

>>8513443
>>8513649
>Kindness is unnecessary baggage that prevents clear communication. If I want to say someone's idea sucks, I say it sucks.
I was assuming by saying you tell them it "sucks," you meant that you explained why you disliked it and were just being short, but I'm beginning to wonder if you literally mean you just tell them it sucks. If that is the case, I question your definition of "clear communication." That's just about as pointless and useless a comment as you can receive.

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I try to be nice, but I have trouble staying calm around passive aggressive people.

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>>8513716
This has gotten me curious. If anyone is still around, where would you place yourself on this chart? 1 being ultra-aggressive everything-must-be-flamed and 9 being ultra-passive everything-must-be-praised.

>> No.8513850

>>8513837
Probably 3 or 4.
I flame recommendation threads and look down on spoonfeeding and I also encourage people that make portal threads to get on with their life and just do it.

>> No.8515047

>>8513747
I mean both. Explaining why something sucks is very useful, but if somebody just wants an opinion on what they've made 'it sucks' as as much a valid opinion as 'it's pretty good'.

>>8513837
4-5

>>8513850
>I also encourage people that make portal threads to get on with their life and just do it.
>get on with their life and just do it
Anon, you're contradicting yourself here.

>> No.8515054

No, I'm an asshole. I sage in every thread. I pretend that it's because I'm unworthy of posting on one of the slowest boards on 4chan with my comments, but really it's because the threads are all shit and I want them to get off the first page, so it will 404 faster.

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>>8513837
I think it's stupid to answer both 1 and 9, so I'll go with 5. It all depends on the person: if a person deserves it and tries his best, I'm as kind, patient and helpful as possible, if he's a bully himself, I go apeshit.

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8515063

Everyone should try their best to be kind to others!
Give the world a smile everyday and one day it may just smile back at you!~

>> No.8515067

I only bully people who deserve it

>> No.8515078

>>8513612
I'm an asshole to people who are assholes. But there's no need to be an asshole if there's no reason to. That was the whole point of my post.

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>>8515063

So that's how you get dicks huh.... Interesting.

>> No.8515093

>>8515063
Please suck my cock ;_;
It's tasty, clean and well shaved.

>> No.8515101

>>8515093
How do you know your cock is tasty? has someone already sucked it? i wont let saten-anon suck your unvirgin cock!

>> No.8515104

>>8515093
>clean and well shaved
>tasty

Nope.

>> No.8515144

>>8515101
I was a able to reach the tip at some point, not anymore. It tasted good.
Nowadays my balls are filled with sweet cum that I want to pour into saten's mouth~

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>>8515144
How lewd.
I would love to have your tasty juice in my mouth Anon-kun~

>> No.8515237

>>8515047
>get on with their life and just do it.
>Anon, you're contradicting yourself here.
I am not.
You do not know how beautiful life is in Gensokyo.

>> No.8515320

>>8515191
And now i need to fap.

>> No.8515963

I try to be nice, but not to other people who are not nice

>> No.8515977

Too kind, I'm way too kind.

I should stop being such a custom loser.

Fuck autism.

>> No.8515983

Me on /a/:
Shitposting, samefagging a lot, trolling without a definite purpose, I don't even know the reason.
Me on /jp/:
Pretty nice guy I guess

>> No.8516019

>>8515963
Simply this.

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