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>>8178799
Hold shift for focused movement.

Practice more.

No really, practice more.

Practice the first Stage on Lunatic and try not to die or use bombs, then go on Normal.

Stop playing on easy modo.

>>8178799
Bullets can shot bullets that shot bullets too, have that in mind and everything will be fine.

>>8178805
>Stop playing on easy modo.
Not OP but, why? I can't even finish the game on easy modo, how can playing on lunatic help?

>>8178799
Hold z for fire

>>8178810
It's like working out, you don't build muscle by lifting smaller weights.

It doesn't matter which game you start first.
It doesn't matter which difficulty you "practice" on.
It doesn't matter how much you practice.
You're either good at it within the first 5 hours of playing, or not.
The more you play though, the more you will memorize spell cards and bullet patterns, but that doesn't make you good. You'll will die quickly against a new spell card you have never seen before.

Remember to use your bombs if you're in a pinch or the instant you get hit. They're a lifesaver, but I always forgot to use them when I first played Touhou. If you die, you get your bombs back, so abuse it.

Also, memorize the patterns and safe spots, and know that the shift key is your friend.

>>8178824
I'm not a muscle type of dude, can I use my intelligence to beat Touhou?

Play other Danmaku for a while then 2hu won't seem so hard.

>>8178831
So, so wrong.

>>8178847
I'm just speaking from countless hours of experience.

the games are so anti-fun and the characters are so unmemorable that i can't believe there is a board on 4chan for it.

>>8178837
>I'm not a muscle type of dude, can I use my intelligence to beat Touhou?
Sure, but it's the same deal.
Ir's like long division. It seems impossible in 2nd grade, and you're going to get it wrong a lot of times at first; but it becomes second nature eventually.

Then you can log in to elementary school 4chan and be all, ">2011 remainders after division >ISHYDDT" and post a picture of shota costanza along with it.

>>8178837
You may call it "intelligence", I call it your brain muscle. And you have to train that too.

>>8178895
But I still can't do long division.

>>8178831
This is true. I've spent countless hours practicing all of the touhou games on both normal and hard mode. I still get my ass handed to me around stage 5-6 no matter what.

Same goes for DDP, I've probably clocked in around 500-600 hours just playing that game alone. Still end up missing around 1-4, even though I've put a ton of practice in to that stage. Yet I know people who have 1cc'd DDP both first and second loop within only a week of practice.

>>8178831
I agree with your first two opinions.
I'd slap you for your next three opinions.

Countless hours how many? On at least thousand and half hours here.

>>8178904
>You may call it "intelligence", I call it your brain muscle.

>I was thinking, are you guys good at Touhou?
/jp/ in general, no, though there are some good people here. Some people like to tell me that I'm good too for some reason.

>Do you have some advice for becoming better?
Keep playing. If you think you're doing something fundamentally wrong, share a replay and I could look over it.

>Same goes for DDP, I've probably clocked in around 500-600 hours just playing that game alone. Still end up missing around 1-4, even though I've put a ton of practice in to that stage. Yet I know people who have 1cc'd DDP both first and second loop within only a week of practice.
>Second loop

Goddamn you are a liar. Stop posting in gameplay threads.

Everyone sucks ass when they start. It took me a month of playing before I got a normal 1cc, and it can take some people longer. The only real way to get better is to keep playing, even just a couple hours a day. In a couple months, you might be clearing stuff on hard, wondering why you ever had trouble on easy mode at all.

>>8178923
A little over 1000 for me.

>>8178922
>Yet I know people who have 1cc'd DDP both first and second loop within only a week of practice.
>1cc'd DDP... second loop within only a week of practice.

This isn't even remotely believable.

I thought everybody 1cc'd the second loop on their first try.

>>8178831
So am I. I was absolutely horrible when I started, and after a couple months I barely cleared IN normal. Since then I've played at least 1000 hours in all STGs and I'm still nothing special, but I can still pass things on the first try or very quickly now that would have been very hard to do before. And that's been happening gradually the entire time I've been playing.

Don't worry, OP. I was as bad as you when I started. Now I'm clearing extras and playing on lunatic. Play enough and eventually you'll get the hang of reading the patterns.

I would echo the advice to practice one on one difficulty level higher than what you're trying to clear. It works for me.

>>8178937

I think that time for a 1cc should be based on game hours rather than in days or months. It took me a year and a half for my first 1cc, but I only played about 100 hours in that time.

>>8178942
Is that you, IN Hard guy? You're pretty exceptional.

Watch MATSU's replays.

>>8178991
Damn. Now I feel like an attentionwhore. ;_; I don't know if "exceptional" is meant to be taken as insult or compliment. But regardless, thank you.

>>8179010
>Now I feel like an attentionwhore. ;_;
You're not. It's just that we've been watching you for almost as long as you've been playing IN.

>>8178971
That would be great but I can't ever remember. For instance, I know it took me 1-2 months to clear my first game on normal, but I don't know how long I played per day or how many days I skipped. It feels like 20-30 hours but that's just a guess.

>>8179023
The Touhou games themselves keep track of these times and stats, you know.

>>8179023
Yeah, what he said.
>>8179029
Though IN's timer is broken if you run it in a window, so don't take it too seriously.

It's alright, I kinda suck at them too. (Except the fighting games, I'm good at those)
I've only beaten IN with no continues on Easy (I've beaten PCB on normal, but used continues). I'm getting better at the games, though.
At any rate, it doesn't really matter to me whether I win or lose, because
I play games for fun

>>8179035
Only the "Running Time" counter in IN is broken. The "Playing Time" counter is fine.

>>8179029
Only good if I remember to check before I rack up 100 more hours. My first games had used score.dats anyway.

>>8179054
>Only good if I remember to check before I rack up 100 more hours.
Hrm? What do you mean by that?
>My first games had used score.dats anyway.
Agh, I hated that... finally decided just to erase the .dats and start again in 6-8 a while ago.

>>8178831
>It doesn't matter how much you practice.
>You're either good at it within the first 5 hours of playing, or not.
>The more you play though, the more you will memorize spell cards and bullet patterns, but that doesn't make you good. You'll will die quickly against a new spell card you have never seen before.

I've been playing for four years, slowly working my way up from all continues on PCB Easy to 1ccing UFO Lunatic. When TD came out, I 1cc'd Lunatic on my second shot. Fuck off, you sack of crap.

>>8178831
>You're either good at it within the first 5 hours of playing, or not.

I think the only conclusion you could draw from that is how good you can aspire to become in a determined timeframe.

But in the end, the more you practice, the better you'd get at something.


>>8178937
>Everyone sucks ass when they start.

Not everyone. The most hardcore people that have played trough almost all different kind of games will always find something that resembles a previously played title, so they may be better than average from the start.

>>8179070
I just remembered that it keeps track per difficulty level, so that makes it easier. But there are still a lot of hours that weren't spent on my first 1CC for normal modes. Hard/extra I tended to clear and dump so I could figure those out.

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~albie/pseudoscience.htm

Is this bullshit, /jp/? If it is, which is the best training method?

>>8179183
this beats a new record in autismism.

>>8179183
What the fuck.

>>8179183
>Is this bullshit
>pseudoscience.htm

>>8179183
#1 is a retarded way to play. I know some /jp/s do that, and they're retarded too.

>>8179129
Nah, number of hours is combined for difficulty modes and whatnot, it's only the number of clears that's separated. Also, e.g. IN keeps track of attempts per difficulty/team, SA only does clears.

>>8179183
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34497

Admittedly, it's more focused towards scoring in DoDonPachi than survival in Touhou, but a lot of the core ideas carry over.

>>8179261
Oh, it was shot types that I was thinking of. That helped in UFO since I used MarisaA pretty much only for extra and no one else.

>>8179076
>Fuck off, you sack of crap.
Grow up, kid.

cum

>>8179275
>kid.
For some reason I laugh every time someone here types this.

I was able to 1cc UFO normal with after 3 months playing, though not on daily basis, 2-3 hours a day. After that I tried to 1cc IN and it took me 3 weeks.
I wonder if I'm doing it bad. I remember everyone saying IN is too easy compared to other game, especially UFO.

>>8179974
Because stroking your ego while spouting "fuck" and needless insults make your point valid.

>>8180441
Mine
UFO Hard in - 6+ months. No practice, just play normal.
IN Lunatic - 2 weeks. With stage practice.

So yeah, practice makes perfect