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fuck /jp/.
hongfire is gone.

where will I get my http://www.dlsite.com/home/ downloads now? any tips?

checked the irc:
They won't get DDL and Torrent section back up. (decision from Hong)
http://www.hongfire.com/~shragei/thebiglist.txt

picture related, the kind of games I want to download in the future.

>> No.7845288

They've killed hongfire.

>> No.7845290

>>7845288
Its funny because one of them is hentaikey.
I always thought the copy everything themselfs...

I know no site as good as hongfire to get my downloads.

>> No.7845293

You will never get a happy birthday e-mail ever again.

>> No.7845294

>>7845282
Were any of the Yami no Koe games translated anyways?

>> No.7845297

...when? I tried to search for a genius of sappheiros download there and those file download search sites brought up hongfire's descriptions but the links were 404'd

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And nothing of value was lost.

>> No.7845299

Please tell me you're trolling. If hongfire is gone I will have a panic attack

>> No.7845300

Just fucking go to their website before you believe the retard, guys.

>> No.7845301

What happened to Hongfire? All I see is that they're 'changing datacenters' on the 404 page

>> No.7845302

Houkago Saimin Club torrent where??

>> No.7845303

Is it actually gone this time?

>> No.7845305

>>7845300
>>7845301
>[<<Welcome to #HF-Network>> [ www.hongfire.com ] Channel Since 02-01-2004 | Site has been shut down because of multiple DMCA take down notices from Hentaikey, Adultsource Media and Dliste authors]
But I wasn't around to see if they're really doing away with ddl and torrents section.

>> No.7845306

>>7845297
Not that long ago they said..
probably about 1-2 days.
Got lots of DMCA notices and hongfire decided not to buy a server oversears because they would be offline very long.
So only discussion will stay up.
Ironically the best discussion threads were in DDL and Torrent.

>>7845294
No, but also lots of english projects are now gone.
Even the Violated Heroine Thread is gone.

>>7845296
Share your wisdom then anon. Where do you get your stuff?

>> No.7845310

Can anyone verify whether the OP is right or not?

>> No.7845308

>>7845305
just ask in the channel.
I got a quick answer. there are lots of people asking if they are trolling. does not seem like that.

>> No.7845309

Use the archive site.

>> No.7845315

>>7845312
>does not help with new stuff.

The fuck are you talking about?.

>> No.7845311

>>7845282
>They won't get DDL and Torrent section back up. (decision from Hong)
So what do they want to be? Hongfire that is.
Do they really expect to have a "community" worth shit without those sections attracting people?

I mean, even among their "General" and "Anime" or whatever sections, people will stop using them if they can't browse for downloads at the same time.

>> No.7845312

>>7845309
well its an archive.
does not help with new stuff.
besides not everything is archived.

>> No.7845316

>>7845311
Sorry, I did not ask.
Just got the message that they are sad if I leave just because DDL and Torrent is gone.
See no reason to stay because of something else though.

Just write in the IRC chan.
Was there just 10 minutes ago.

Should have made logs, sorry.

>> No.7845325

So why change to overseas servers because they are afraid of legal issues if they remove the DL sections anyway?

>> No.7845332

This makes me want to learn programming to make a site of my own that does shit the right way.

>> No.7845330

>>7845325
see >>7845306
>Got lots of DMCA notices and hongfire decided not to buy a server oversears because they would be offline very long.
>hongfire decided NOT to buy a server oversears
>NOT buy server oversears

>> No.7845335
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7845335

Hongfire? Gone? And so the normalization of the web proceeds. By mid 2012 we'll be paying for packages with access to various websites, and if a site like hongfire even existed then, it wouldn't be included in any of the lists. 4chan will be killed at the same time to be replaced by the more normal friendly canv.as
Enjoy the internet whilst she lasts, guys.

>> No.7845341

So they didn't buy an overseas server because they would be offline for a long time? Hongfire without downloads isn't a fucking website worth the bandwidth to visit. In essence they've just killed it themselves, not down to DMCA.

>> No.7845342

>>7845332
Well there are alternatives like ULMF.
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/

But its just not the same...
Hongfire had releases in less than 24 hours, or sometimes even before the release date.

Now I don't have a source in general.

I remember seeing blogs that offer DDL links like fileserve for DLSite games.

>> No.7845344

>HongFire
>Without Torrent or DDL

Really? Not buying a server overseas simply because it would take long? I would wait months for a fully-revived Hongfire.

>> No.7845352

>>7845342
Not down to hongfire down to the people who visited it. Nothing to say someone won't create a sensible overseas hongfire clone. Why they were hosting in the US is beyond me. There is literally no reason why you should host any website in that place.

>> No.7845350

Do they still have the old servers/data?
Any word on whether or not they could pass it on to someone else?

>> No.7845351

>>7845335
I can actually see that happen, just not that fast.
Maybe economy crashed before that anyway.

>>7845341
Yes, its weird because they talked about a week offtime.
Which I thought is not that long..Even a month wouldn't justify axing the DDL and Torrent Area.

There were lots of projects from hongfire users as well like RPG Maker games etc.
Weird.
Maybe Hong just got tired after all these years of stress.

Just sad to see it gone.

>> No.7845353

>>7845350
No clue.
But I think they do. Because they were not hacked etc. right?
However I don't think they will just share the content.

>> No.7845357

>>7845352
Hopefully somebody does.
I mean all the people still want to realease their stuff right?

>> No.7845363

At the end of the day all that's lost is the original content, user projects, translations etc. Any shit posed there from dlsite can be found on Winny which is where it was all rehosted from anyway.

>> No.7845364

@Rizon #HF-Network Network

This channel?

>> No.7845368

>>7845363
>Winny
Such things can't be used in countries where it is monitered diligently though. And actually prosecutes people.

>> No.7845370

>>7845335
Don't say such nightmarish things like that, fuck I really need to just start downloading like fucking crazy then go full hermit mode in the next decade.

>> No.7845374

>>7845364
yes thats their channel.

>> No.7845376

>>7845363
how secure is winny?
I always felt more confortable with DDL because 2 people I know where "visited" for using torrent..

sure it was music and movies, not eroge, but still.

>> No.7845384

>>7845376
I think Winny has security holes in, that can leak your identity. It hasn't been updated in years as well, you should really use Share or PD instead.

>> No.7845387

>>7845384
Isn't the problem that anybody connecting to me can see my IP anyway?

>> No.7845389

Or we could just, like, buy some stuff we like.

>> No.7845397

>>7845389
Sup, FBI, stop blowing you're cover.

>> No.7845399

>>7845389
implying I don't buy from dlsite as well.
aslo got to know them through hongfire.

>> No.7845395

>>7845389
>Some

Emphasis on that, we'd never have the money to buy everything we like.

>> No.7845401

>>7845389
What the fuck is wrong with you.

>> No.7845400

>>7845384
PD's encryption was cracked completely open last yeat or something like that.
Did they ever manage to rebuild their system?

>> No.7845408

>>7845384
So basically japs don't upload to ddl?

>> No.7845414

They'll tame the internet the same way they tamed every other frontier in history.
It's happening way faster tho, makes me feel older then I should be.

>> No.7845423

>>7845414
Remember downloading True Love with your 56k modem? I sure do.
Funny times.

Never got the ending of that idol girl.

>> No.7845430

The world really must be ending. Fucking Aztecs.

>> No.7845434

>>7845430
It's the Mayans retard.

>> No.7845439
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>>7845389

>> No.7845441

I discovered hongfire so long ago.
Back when my folks had dial up and I was searching for info on a game and possible translation stuff for a game called heroine anthem.

Its still not translated.

>> No.7845444

>>7845423
Good times, one of the first H games I ever played, Nocturnal Illusion, May Club, Cobra Mission, Knights of Xantar.

You had to agree to be her friend when she asks, instead of asking to be more then a friend to her her ending.
Also witness the event during the summer holidays where your gay friend buys her CD.

Also remember d/ling clips of La Blue Girl, Urotuskidoji, Angel of Darkness and stuff on that connection.
Fuck now I feel really old.

>> No.7845447

>>7845430

So the world is ending because it's going to become slightly harder to pirate eroges and VNs? Honestly, I just feel grateful that I grew up during the piracy age; I got so much free shit while I was poor as fuck during my high school and university years.

I honestly wouldn't mind buying some VNs, but Japan's xenophobic frenzy sort of destroys any plans for that.

>> No.7845449

>>7845441
I've actually never seen a download site that big surviving that long.

>> No.7845451

I guess people will simply move to other places such as nihonomaru, nothing really dramatic here.

>> No.7845453

Yes Winny has security holes, just like Share and Perfect Dark, using it outside Japan has significantly less risk though. And no, no one in Japan uploads to direct-download hosting.

>> No.7845460

>>7845447
No, the world is ending cause Big Brother is coming.

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>>7845444
>Nocturnal Illusion, May Club, Cobra Mission, Knights of Xantar.
Fuch yeah. I think we all downloaded from the same sites anyway. There were not much.
Also Seasons of Sakura, great game!

Thanks for the infos on the idol girl.
I might even replay it. Weirdly enough there even existed a german edition.

La Blue Girl was the first think I downloaded from Boxtorrents. First Anime Movie I downloaded.

>Fuck now I feel really old.
I know anon.. I know.....24 here.

>> No.7845469

>>7845447
>because it's going to become slightly harder to pirate eroges and VNs?


Almost everything new posted in hongfire was already on the archive site. There are also a lot of nip blogs that upload all the new stuff to mediafire and hotfile..
Learn to google.
The only thing you could miss from hongfire is the mods but you can get them from other sites.

>> No.7845475

>>7845451
I looked at their board.
They only had stuff for Ero Manga, nothing for games though. Just normal console discussion.

>> No.7845474

>>7845335

Fuck, you, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I just realised I genuinely have no idea what I would do if that actually happened. This is fucking ridiculous, man. I guess we really can't appreciate how good we have it now. Things are only going to keep getting worse. I fear that some day, I may think of the good times at /jp/ and cry bitter tears when it is all gone. I sincerely hope I'm dead before then.

>> No.7845487

>>7845282
http://forum.nihonomaru.com/eroge/
It's a mess though, two things I liked about hongfire were the division between file hosting and torrent, and how new releases naturally stayed up in the first two pages while older ones fell into oblivion.

>> No.7845483

It wouldn't surprise me if those jews at g.e.-hentai were somehow behind this.

>> No.7845484

>>7845475
http://forum.nihonomaru.com/eroge/

>> No.7845485

>>7845469
>archive site
Care to help me out here?
I'm quite desperate now.

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>>7845484
Good god gracious sweet mother of jesus!
Thats what I needed. Thanks anon!

>> No.7845494

>>7845487
OP here, thanks for telling me the link.
At least its better then nothing!

>> No.7845496

>Only registered and activated users can see links.

Whoa, fuck that.

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>>7845474
If things get bad, we could always dig out old 56k modems and communicate over the phone system. We could set up a /jp/ bulletin board, and be one of the few glowing lights of free and open discussion in the darkness! We'd probably get a few years, maybe even a decade until they cracked down on this.

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Will I still get my birthday emails?

>> No.7845513

Isnät it Nihonmaru that have all those "veteran users only!" sections. Which are basically, the only sections with any decent/real quantity of uploaded stuff?

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>>7845464
Yeah! ...27 this year tho, may be time to consider opening a portal.

You know, the one scene that really stuck with me from Seasons of Sakura was when you went after the Ayanami copy and found out she wasn't a virgin.
Honestly felt like slapping the guy.

Also, Princess Maker 2! I still play that game.

>> No.7845521
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7845521

Does anyone actually have any factual info or just rumors? First time I've heard of this and hongfire site just shows this; no mention of removing torrents/DDL boards.

>> No.7845522

>>7845513
No posts, no links.

>> No.7845524

http://kiss-sub.net/kisssuben/forum.php
has a lot of eroge but it seems to have temporarily imploded from bandwith rape

>> No.7845528

Uh, Hentai Game Discussion. Gone? I don't know if I can deal with that, man. The best threads were in there. The VH thread in particular... hosted pretty much everything.

It's nice to know hongfire has been infested by the same people pussifying the rest of the internet. I knew there was going to be trouble when lolicon torrents/ddls/games were getting flagged/deleted on hongfire for no fucking reason.

>> No.7845531

>>7845474
Think most of us feel that way, it is a really scary thought.

It is strange tho, I followed this link right as I came accross this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E9Vg6CogAs

>>7845506
Sounds pretty cool, but I don't think it'll matter what they do. The human ability to adapt is frightening.

>> No.7845530

>Loli/Shota or 3D Loli
>Loli/Shota is banned unless it is an etchi type of content or light sex. Hard core Loli/Shota is totally forbidden, posting such content will get you banned. We do not like this type of content even if other sites and countries allow it, we won't!

>> No.7845536

>>7845521
Dear god I hope OP is trolling

>> No.7845540

Internet, the final frontier of freedom, disappearing soon.

Whelp, it was a good run. Maybe the internet will be free again in 30 or so years when the current generation is in power.

>> No.7845547

Well, I'll miss the HF patch. But they're pretty much the only reason I go there.

>> No.7845548

Wow, hongfire was one of the last big and good sites from the web 1.0 days, sad to see it finally bite the dust.

Thought, since everyone has their own blogs now a days for translation and releases, I guess there really isn't a need for it as much anymore, except mods.

Actually, there were the last web 1.0 site to go, ah the memories. Welcome to the new internet.

>> No.7845550

>>7845521
Go check the Hentai D/L section and you'll see that it's still 404ed.

>> No.7845551

>>7845496
It wouldn't be that weird, lately hongfire had been enforcing registration to see links, plus they always had troubles with some porn companies and thus banned some material.
Now with new meat such as mangagamer and some japanese companies starting to show some manner of interest in this market, all the legal persecution is going to become more intense.
Let's face it, eroge isn't that obscure and really nichè interest that was 10 years ago.
Blame fansubs spreading like cancer and anime such as Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime, but nowadays anyone who is seriously into anime knows at least what a visual novel is.

>> No.7845563

>>7845540
You're kidding right? No, it'll be free when a new frontier is discovered and people start to shift focus there.

Namely, space.

>> No.7845569

>>7845536
>>7845521
OP here, not trolling. Just visit their IRC.
It seemed legit to me. I hope I'm getting trolled too.
I basically was browsing Hongfire for almost a decade.

>>7845519
Tried the new Princess Maker. Were the interface was translated, just wasn't the same as the 2nd one.

>> No.7845564

At the very least...
We still have /rs/.

>> No.7845565

>>7845551
>Tsukihime
It has an anime?

>> No.7845566

>>7845540
4chan is the last good place left as an anime/manga/VN hub. We are really the only thing left that connects translators with their audience outside of their own personal blogs.

Well, until canvas shuts us down.

>> No.7845571

>>7845540
>Whelp, it was a good run. Maybe the internet will be free again in 30 or so years when the current generation is in power.
This generation is a bunch of retards. So long as they can keep their facebook and twitter and social media, they'll forget about anything else. They don't care about anything other than sucking up to their pathetic social structures, and their culture is terrible. I know this is said about every generation, but this really is the worst generation ever.

>> No.7845573

>>7845566
4chan has lost quality rapidly.
And with quality I mean that its gotten mainstream very fast.
Its primetime lasted not very long. I wouldn't bet on 4chan.

>> No.7845574

;_;

>> No.7845579

>>7845569
No PM is better then the second, namely cause the second has allot of content and nude loli.

>> No.7845580

>>7845571
Happened with every culture anon.
We are just caught in another "shift".
Hedonism and decadence is never a good sign.

>> No.7845583

>>7845571

Yes, but they're not afraid of new technology like the current old farts in power.

>INTRENET?
>DOWNLOADS?
>I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND, BETTER TO BAN EVERYTHING JUST IN CASE

Current generation may be the worst generation of shits with an over-developed sense of social belonging, but at least most of them are hipster enough to know how the internet works.

>> No.7845585

>>7845573

Indeed. Most of 4chan is worse than facebook, and this is by no means an exaggeration.

/jp/ is one of the last boards with competent users.

>> No.7845592

>>7845563
I can't wait till I can run a loli brothel on the moon.

>> No.7845593

>>7845573
Well, as bad as it has got, its still the best we have.

Could you imagine seeing translation threads on, uh, we actually any other site would properly delete them for copyright or something, i..e Gaia, Chrunyroll (which forums have gotten huge) and, hm, what other big forum exist anyway?

But then again, with 90% of anime every season having translations, the devopling scene of digital manga and starting of working with scanlators to allow them to upload works, VN/games are the last thing left.

Fuck man, what happened to the SEKRET KLUB?

>> No.7845595

>>7845585
I agree. But the same thing as in
>>7845573
is true for /jp/ as well.

The whole internet changed pretty much the last 5-6 years.
I just hope maybe something new will turn up.

>> No.7845604

>>7845595
I'm sure a small portion of us will find some other secret place to hang out on while Canvas and Redit take complete control over the "internet meme scene."

>> No.7845605

>>7845593
>Fuck man, what happened to the SEKRET KLUB?
Same thing that happened with video games.
Or Movies
Or probably books as well. (Not old enough to know).

It's just a theory but I think there is always a time when something new and popular goes "mainstream".
A new audience comes in and alienates the core audience.

>> No.7845612

At least all that talk of setting up a "new internet" look promising. wireless technology make setting up the infrastructure fairly simple. The mass moving of content would be the biggest hurdle. But then again, you can grab a 2Tb drive for about $60.

>> No.7845613

>>7845604
I hope so.
I know this is not /jp/ relevant because 3d pig disgusting, but Empornium and PureTNA were the biggest trackers for porn with millions of torrents.
I don't think anybody came after they went down, its been a while already..

>> No.7845615

>>7845605
>Same thing that happened with video games.

Like when all the fucking kids ruined almost every genre of vidya out there, especially FPS.

>> No.7845621

>>7845592
Hah, I just finished watching Moon.

>>7845593
It was never really a secret, just isolated. Now days most people are smart enough to use the internet to get what they want but still quite ignorant on it's other workings.
The real secret club is limited to hackers and programmers, and I'd imagine they have other things on their mind.

>>7845595
I'm still waiting for Lain to come true.

>> No.7845622

>>7845585
At first I was going to ask if you had been to facebook recently. Then I read the rest and realized you were talking about the normalfag boards. Then I wondered how bad it could be, and decided to take a look at /b/. First thread on the front page was a "Join private 4chan dating group" thread.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be trying to scrub my eyes out from my skull.

>> No.7845618

>>7845605
So you're saying this is how the monks felt when they were no longer the only ones copying Bibles?

>> No.7845624

>>7845613
Well, a lot of blogs are dedicated to ddl and torrents now anyway, you just have to find them.

Guess forums are a thing of the past, make room for skype, steam, facebook, etc.

>> No.7845628

I was searching for shit yesterday and only got 404 messages, and here I thought it was just because the threads were old.

Fuck this, I had a shitload of links to H manga that I had pending to download there.

>> No.7845630

>>7845622
Try using steel wool and lye.

>> No.7845632

<<Welcome to #HF-Network>> [ www.hongfire.com ] Channel Since 02-01-2004 | Site has been shut down because of multiple DMCA take down notices from Hentaikey, Adultsource Media and Dliste authors. Will be back up in a week

>> No.7845639

>>7845613
Holy shit, empornium is gone? That's where I used to grab those shitty ThriXXX games when I was, like, 10, before I had ever heard of Illusion.

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>>7845632
yeeeeaaay

>> No.7845645

>>7845615
For me console gaming has changed to much. I play rarely nowadays.
It seems to me that the standart of a good game has changed with the new generation.

Games got shorter. Focus on the visuals. No real "depth". Very few games have that.
Were you could feel that the developers enjoyed what they are doing.

But again only a theory.

>> No.7845647

>>7845628
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Awww.hongfire
.com%2Fforum%2Fforumdisplay.php%2F154-Download-(Hentai)

Just use google's cache of it while it's still there. (cache:http://mypage.example.com)

>> No.7845643

>>7845622
You should know better by now Anon.

>>7845605
Pretty sound theory, the main difference however is that those things has a much longer run.
Which is why now days, even their "core" audience are regarded quite highly and are catered to, but also tend to be looked down upon by others.

With video games, the internet, it's all a business now, just didn't have enough time to become something more.

>> No.7845653

>>7845632
Do Hentaikey actually have any legitimate properties, or do they just send malicious notices?

>> No.7845658

>>7845647
It is most appreciated.

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>>7845622
It's frustrating on so many levels.

>> No.7845670

>>7845639
Yeah, its gone man..
If you have balls of steel you can take a look at this....
http://www.empflix.com/

Thats the sad rest of it..

>> No.7845672

>>7845530
nihonomaru, what a half assed ban you got there. If they said no loli/shota because we will get shit from our server host and/or advertisers it would at least be respectable, but "You can post loli/shota having sex as long as its not hardcore sex" What does that even mean?

>> No.7845682

>>7845660
My memories of the old days are worn and faded, but this is just painful. Is this the face of a board which once discussed how you could masturbate onto the sleeping faces of your prepubescent little sister and her friends?
Fucking fox news.

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>>7845672
Good god.
Not even joking.

Looking for a loli game on nihonmaru now that it was recommended here and find this:
http://forum.nihonomaru.com/hentai-cg/262245-%5Bc110831-02%5D-2-a.html

Everything went better then expected.
Not hardcore enough for you nihonmaru?

>> No.7845697

>>7845682

It's really sad. Often times I always feel like I'm the only one who has any standards or cares about the old days of the internet in general.

It makes me sad. And I don't mean old actually. I just mean pre-shit. For example it's common for people to use iTunes as mp3 player software nowadays.

>> No.7845701

>>7845682

Don't look at it that way. Those threads are still there, they're just buried under a mountain of shit. If you think about it realistically, our generation is just as retarded as the generation of people visiting current /b/, it's just that we were better educated due to less retarded media influences in general. people haven't changed, the internet has due to corporations taking advantage of the mindless children of today. be mad at them, not at people.

>> No.7845704

>>7845697

It's okay. Just let the apathy and misanthropy take control. Soon you'll be living in the world of your dreams, where not a single fuck is given about the past nor the future.

>> No.7845708

>>7845692
Oh, so it's just a joke rule, good. I was scared for a minute there.

>> No.7845719

>>7845704

I tried being "normal" and integrating into the "real" world once I saw the internet was becoming absolute shit, and, well, it's impossible. It's not even that I'm socially awkward or unattractive or anything, I look and behave like a normal person, but I am physically repulsed by other people and the culture they have embraced. A few months into this attempt, I could literally feel myself dying on the inside, I was devastated by what I had seen. It seems there is no other option but to stay in the sinking ship that is the internet for as long as possible, then die, figuratively or literally (there's no real difference).

>> No.7845721

>>7845697
The only person that I know for sure was a 4channer from the first day -- and a goon and other things before that -- still goes on /b/, 8 years later.

How does that make you feel?

>> No.7845722

Fucking kikes, ruining my internet.

Where will I get my h-games now? The bitgamer section is so limited and slow...

>> No.7845728
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7845728

Next year...

>> No.7845731

>>7845474
I for one plan on jisatsu if it ever gets to such an awful point.

The real world is pointless and evil, if my reason for living is taken away, why continue?

>> No.7845736

>>7845719

I'm a bit different than you. Admittedly I don't mind normal culture. It pains me to say this but parties, sluts, and hanging out with normals isn't all that bad. People are generally much deeper than we would imagine them to be.

I'm just exceptionally good at hiding my very high power level, and what's happening to the internet pains me to no end. Between modern 4chan, canv.as, reddit, iTunes, Chrome, internet plans, ISPs in the US capping bandwidth recently, Steam ("walled garden" system with heavy DRM), and good sites closing everything is going to shit on the internet.

Restrictions, content being cleaned, functionality being dumbed down, freedom being revoked, and everything being locked down by the man.

And now even 4chan (for years) is filled with retards who listen to dubstep and play COD4 and have their bookmarks bar enabled with no bookmarks.

Sigh.

>> No.7845741

>>7845719

Who said anything about integrating into the real world?

Fuck, I'm a complete hermit, and been since 2001. I don't act weird in social situations, I act like a total fucking asshole in social situations as I've seen that usually speeds things up a bit.

I only use internet to download shit, read shit etc, I hardly use it for communication.

This post is probably my 5th time of communicating with anyone in the past week.

>> No.7845748

>>7845736

But that's just it. Even if you don't mind interaction with normals, you can't survive just on that, can you? At one point, the internet will become genuinely unusable for people like us, and then that's all that will be left. Furthermore, popular culture is only going to get worse, and that's obviously going to be reflected in real life as well, so you'll basically end up hanging out with those kinds of CoD-loving retards or some variation of them in real life as well. Of course there are still genuinely decent and pleasant people out there, but everyone is influenced by popular culture to some extent, and the worse it gets, the worse the state of humanity will become. What will you do then? What is there to do?

>> No.7845749

Suppose it's about time for stage three isolation.

Hope none of these hard drives crash before I get around to using them.

Go ahead normals, take the internet from me. Once my backlog runs out, I'll just start sleeping more.

>> No.7845751

>>7845741
I say that was an attempt of communication.
Looks like a monologue to me.
Maybe that's your problem.

>> No.7845755

>>7845751

But there is no problem. What the fuck are you on about?

>> No.7845754

Man, I sure miss the Game Over Rape thread...

>> No.7845761

>>7845755
If there was no problem, then you wouldn't say this online.

>> No.7845768

What will happen to all the translation projects and other community hongfire patches?

I guess now is a better time than ever to learn Japanese.

>> No.7845765

>>7845754
I will sure miss that thread. Shame it happened now since 閃撃のギア is out pretty shortly.

>> No.7845770
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>>7845761

>> No.7845774

>>7845754
The best thread on HGD.

It's time to create a last stand site. Leech everything good from what's left, and host it as best as possible. Keep it invite only.

>> No.7845793

>>7845774
Best way to survive is obscene levels of redundancy.

Setting up a network of FTP servers or something that all have the same content. We'd only need one or two updating independently to update the rest in the event of a crackdown.

>> No.7845801

Usenet will be there for you in the future.

>> No.7845813

>>7845768
Yes Japan seems immune from the Politically correct cleansing of the internet, at least for now.

>>7845741
People are moronic and ugly by nature, you cannot change it, it is best to avoid it entirely.

In light of this thread, can we have a list of links to sites where we can still download eroge and translations to them?

>> No.7845819
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7845819

Sad to see this happen. I'll see if I have some time this weekend to rar and upload the rest of the VNs for the next VNDDL list, as a bunch of rather notable VNs are currently absent from the list. Here's what I've uploaded so far, in case anyone was planning to download them:

3days
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GVOKYQ04
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GNBHZJDO

Aiyoku no Eustia
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VF4OHKDC
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=77652TZ7
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A535JBNU
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JD4QS6DK
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UVHNNHFW
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CQIAZJD5

Ayakashibito
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I5CEUC7E
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GARW1WNN
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E29A99X0
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GUM2W8SE
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0GTOH0W5

Chaos;Head
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1VFTK30J
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PQ54HG2H
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=09R5LC80

Forest
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y5DT378J
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=317X27L9

Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UBJK7XN1

Real Imouto can't be bothered to look up full name
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2N93UMO9

Shikkoku no Sharnoth
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8BY0NA67
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LIF94X1E
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2S4W4VNF

Steins;Gate
--
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PJ93Z4N1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MVDOXJLS
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2MVJKXOR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OP2V5TX4

>>7845506
Or we could just use something like Freenet. As slow as 56k, except infinitely more secure.

>> No.7845831

>>7845754
Oh son of a bitch. Thanks for reminding me that I had only worked my way through the first 365 pages of that thread.

>> No.7845846

>>7845645
>Games got shorter. Focus on the visuals. No real "depth"

Games have always been short and lacking depth. Honestly I think they were better when they could be beaten in 2-4 hours and the plot was "save this guy/planet from the badguys."

The focus on visuals(not just graphics, but cutscenes and mouth motions and so on) over gameplay and the rewarding of shitty players is getting on my nerves, however. Also I hate excessive voice acting. I'm probably alone in this, but I'd prefer characters to not make noises unrelated to fighting something, taking orders, or giving me feedback.

>> No.7845844

>>7845819
You're a bro, as usual. Thank you.

>> No.7845850

>>7845819
Thank's for the list. Are these translated?

Freenet is good, but slow. Still it is worth it. Who would have thought it would be necessary in the west, this soon?

>> No.7845851

>hongfire is gone

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO MEEEEE~
I MADE MY MISTAKES~

>> No.7845861

>>7845736
>>7845748
>>7845719

I'm a person who masturbates to monstergirls and futa. Who listens to vocaloid music and Touhou remixes. Who collects special edition versions of games and figurines. Who plays doujin games and reads visual novels for story.

After interacting with normal people in my workplace and new home, I can say this: I am not compatible with normal people.

They are so utterly normal. So bland. So unpassionate. It literally disgusts me. They claim weird or strangeness without even knowing the definition. They assume, judge, and think so linearly, confounded when wrong, as though it's impossible.

I hate them. Just being around them pains me. I'm strange to them, but not undefinable. Label me as a nerd, or stupid, or socially awkward. And as if I really am those things they criticize me for not having what I don't want, and offering me what I don't need. All while ignoring my protests and wishes.

I am depressed now, at the loss of hongfire and the thought of losing the internet.

>> No.7845862

One website got shut down. It's the end of the world! Piracy will vanish! The internet is dying! We must go into hiding!

>> No.7845864

Well, I also remember the unofficial linemarvel forums to download some doujin h games, if any of you want to check it.

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>>7845819
>Or we could just use something like Freenet. As slow as 56k, except infinitely more secure.
If the ISPs leave their systems open enough, sure. You might find yourself eventually with everything but http over port 80 being blocked off 'to combat piracy' (https to registered sites, ssh allowed only if you register with the authorities and install the ISPs rootk^H^H^H^H^H support kit onto your computer (wouldn't want those pesky terrorists using it to plan out attacks, would you?)
We don't know how bad it will get, you might laugh at what I say, call me a tinfoil hat, but all signs point to our rights online being restricted further in the future. This time 10 years ago would you have believed me if I'd said that the Americans would be taking over sites by demanding the DNS entries be handed over to them, and using this power to take down overseas gambling sites as well as pirates?

>> No.7845866

>>7845850
>Are these translated?
Find it by yourself, dumbass.

>> No.7845873

>>7845866
None exist for S;G, cunt.

>> No.7845881

Is this some kind of a sick joke?

>> No.7845892
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7845892

>>7845861
It feels like losing your home, doesn't it? Like being a stranger in a place that was once familiar and welcoming to you.

>> No.7845893

>>7845881
I dunno, but I'm laughing.

And it's not good laughter.

>> No.7845906

>>7845881

If only, Anon. Taking away liberties has become the standard, and there's nothing we can do about it.

>> No.7845911

>>7845819
Thanks, man.

>> No.7845916

>>7845881
What is sick is how people do not care about what is happening here.

>> No.7845918

>>7845861
Crawling in my skin

>> No.7845921
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>>7845530
Deadfrog is still going strong, it's there for all your loli/shota needs.

>> No.7845919

This thread makes me depressed. I'm on the verge of tears right now. Please stop that.

>> No.7845923

>>7845916

"People" only care about facebook nowadays, man. We are a dying breed.

>> No.7845925

These conspiracy theory threads are always a waste of time.

>> No.7845928

>>7845925
Shut up kike

>> No.7845929

>>7845916
Tread softly, Anon. You don't have the moral high ground when your reaction to this is to merely vent your anger on an imageboard.

>> No.7845933

>>7845892
I told someone that I might have schizoid personality disorder and showed him the definition and symptoms.

He ended up telling everyone around that I'm crazy and might shoot everyone up.

>> No.7845935

>>7845925
Our lives are long empty.

Saying the end is nigh brings interest into an otherwise dull day.

>> No.7845938

>>7845871
ISPs are your friend. They don't want to restrict people's internet use and lose customers.

>> No.7845939
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7845939

>>7845919

It's alright to cry, anon.

>> No.7845940

>>7845935
I say that the end is nigh, because it is.

>> No.7845942

>>7845861
>I'm a person who masturbates to monstergirls and futa.
They way you say it makes it sound so... bad. I guess I never really laid much thought to it.

Sad news tho, I wounder how the internet will be in a few years...

>> No.7845944

>>7845938
I truly feel sorry for people who live in areas where comcast is the only option.

>> No.7845943

>>7845940
Coming from a guy who talks to himself, that's not too credible.

>> No.7845947

>>7845923
I'm aware it may not be true but I hope the Anonymous group pulls facebook offline. Even if they manage to reboot and everyone resigns up like zombies.

>> No.7845946

>>7845861
Well the only thing left it to make those fetishes mainstream. Post them everywhere and get others into them.

>> No.7845949

>>7845935
Then fill it with something, stupid emo.

>> No.7845951

>>7845938
Capitalism at its finest.

>> No.7845952

>>7845949
suck my cock dude

>> No.7845964

Why am I the only one not worrying about this? I never even used Hongfire in the first place. I just use Google to find whatever I am looking for, or I go to other forums that won't have to deal with this bullshit.

>> No.7845967

>>7845861
>They are so utterly normal. So bland. So unpassionate.
I think the problem is that you don't really know what people are like until you really get to know them.

I, like you, have all kinds of "weird" fetishes. I love lolicon, traps, futa, I haven't fapped to 3d in years, I play eroge. But I think if you met me, you would think I'm just a normal person with normal interests and a normal personality.

So it may be that people you meet aren't really normal, they just try to appear that way because everyone else does.

>> No.7845976

>>7845964
Another way is to do it the way the japanese do it, I think the outcry is at the loss of convenience.

>> No.7845981

>Moving to a new datacenter, check back soon for updates.
Uh?

>> No.7845978

>>7845964
I don't think anybody really cares about that. Sure, it's inconvenient, but there are other places to find stuff. It's more about how the internet as we know it is going the way of the dodo.

>> No.7845983

>>7845928
Whatever, just remember to race-mix.

>> No.7845984

>>7845964
And what came up the most?
Not sure what you are looking for but for me it was hongfire most of the case.
Especially with new stuff.

Shame really.

>> No.7845989

>>7845981
Connect to their IRC.
They got kicked of their current server, DLL+Torrent is going to be dropped.

>> No.7845987

>>7845967
That's not often true, in my experience. Most people, when you dig a little deeper, often come out to be far shallower than you first expected. Of course it does depend on where exactly you find these people...and I do suppose it doesn't mean that they can't grow up eventually.

>> No.7845991

>>7845947
As much as I want to be proven wrong, Anonymous can't do shit. Even if they somehow succeeded they would have to clearly state their motivation and never relent on similar actions in an attempt make people see things differently. Lasting effects are what counts.

Anonymous is actually an interesting concept, but it's hard for me to believe that there is enough people who actually understand what it means to make a difference.

As much as everyone probably sees such action as futile, it's better than just letting it die.
>>7845929 is right in many ways.

>> No.7845992

>>7845987
Even ig they "grow up" they are still tainted with that awful behavior.

>> No.7845993

>>7845989
That's fucking bullshit. Why don't they just get a new server somewhere else?

>> No.7845998

Oh god, what if e-hentai is next?

>> No.7846003

>>7845993
The guy in IRC said it takes too long for Hong to get a server overseas...
>>7845998
It was pretty close to be gone right?..

>> No.7846004

>>7845998

Don't even say it, motherfucker. Don't even say it.

>> No.7846005

Good. That site was lewd.

>> No.7846006

>>7845992
I see no real difference between a child learning new things and them learning how stupid they were, assuming they take it to heart. The people who simply can't grow up are the ones that are truly worthless, and I know for a fact they exist.

>> No.7846012

>>7845967

One time I offered my an anime movie (Princess Mononoke) for a roommate to watch, and they rejected it because "'hen-tee' is gross".

A co-worker asked me to burn him Pretty Little Liars so he can watch it and have something to talk about with his girlfriend, and as a joke, I put an MMD video in the background of the DVD menu.

Once, I said I didn't like MTV or BET and people around me said "oh so you like the fake stuff?"

Most conversations I have with one person go "Why don't you cut your hair?"
"I don't want it cut."
"There's this good place where you can get it cut right around --"
"I don't want to cut it."
"You won't get a girlfriend with that hair like that."
"I don't really want one."
"Girls like short hair. Like mine."

I am not shitting you. Just remembering these situations make me mad.

>> No.7846011

>>7845998
BLACK SPEECH! YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE UTTERED THAT SEQUENCE OF WORDS! REPENT!

>> No.7846016

>>7846012
Oh, the co-worker seriously thinks I'm homosexual now.

Forgot to mention that.

>> No.7846017

>>7846003
So? I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't mind waiting. They should poll it or something.

>> No.7846018

>>7846006

>The people who simply can't grow up

By that, I'm guessing you mean, "The people who do things that I don't like need to change right this minute! They're completely in the wrong and need to grow up."

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>>7845947
Anonymous can't do shit. This xkcd pretty much explains what it's like from the viewpoint of someone who is actually somewhat familiar with the technical stuff behind the 'attacks'.

(Alt text: It was their main recruiting poster, hung nearly ten feet up a wall! This means the hackers have LADDER technology! Are we headed for a future where everyone has to pay $50 for one of those locked plexiglass poster covers? More after the break ...)

>> No.7846024

>>7845998
I wouldn't mind. They're probably half the reason why download links get reported so often.

>> No.7846029

OP here

I'm heading to sleep now..
Never thought this thread would implode that much. Seems many on /jp/ were indeed on hongfire.

Wish you the best, good night!
Was kinda nice to see a decent conversation for once without getting offtrack too much.

>> No.7846031

>>7846018
No, I mean like the people who are older than 50 and are still beyond deluded and have no understanding. Many younger people are likely of the same kind, and will likely never truly learn no matter what happens.

>> No.7846041

>>7846031

>and are still beyond deluded

What a surprise. You think people you disagree with are wrong (and because you think that, they must be 100% wrong). Not allowing for the possibility that you may be wrong (assuming this is true) is quite arrogant, I think.

I'm sure they would say that you are the deluded one. How typical. You may or may not be correct, but I don't think there's any way to know.

>> No.7846049

>>7846041
Have you ever heard of logic and reason?

>> No.7846054

>>7846031
So understanding and tolerance are your markers or maturity? Set an example.

>> No.7846057

>>7846041
Actually, many people think such ways: they don't doubt their knowledge. They simply don't think they're wrong.

I asked several, "why do you not doubt yourself? How can you be so sure of something?"

They either couldn't answer or give a good reason for their belief.

It's something I find incredibly annoying.

>> No.7846058

>>7846049
Have you ever heard of sucking my cock like a good queer?

>> No.7846052

People are only interesting when they're sperging about what they like doing. Even if it's playing UNO, I'd rather talk with that person than sit down with people I don't know, and try and make small talk. I don't care what you own, who has sex with who, who you'd bang, or anything about your "status."

Tell me what you fucking like to do, when you're not trying to impress someone. Tell me why. Not the "why" you think I'll like to hear, but what you really feel.

If it's something like murdering little dogs, I will probably not talk to you again, but I'm sure someone out there is DYING to talk to you about it. If you're honest, you will probably meet that person, one day, when they also get some cojones to discuss what they actually like doing.

Even if it's vapid, who you are is better than you pretend to be. Once you realize who you are is sort of vapid, even to you, you can embrace other stuff, too, and become even more interesting.

The only time humans are interesting is when they express idiosyncrasies and eccentricity, which is why intoxicated people tend to get along better with each other, and why parties only work with alcohol. You stop pretending, and just let loose. The side effect is that alcohol exponentially increases asinine and violent behavior, but that's because fools don't know when to stop drinking.

>> No.7846060

>>7846049

Yes. What about it? Would you care to actually point out what you believe are errors in my logic (if that is what you meant)? I was just implying that it is often difficult to prove something with 100% accuracy, and many things are subjective in nature.

>> No.7846062

>>7846012
I like how you judge all of "normal" humanity based on the interactions of the people directly around you. I guess I live in a utopia because I can rarely relate to any of anti-normalfag stories like this one. Am I seriously the only one like this?

My family, friends, and a few coworkers know a fair bit about what I do. I can easily convince them to try a few anime which I think are both good and have general appeal.

>> No.7846069

>>7846012

Don't get mad anon, just remember you go to work to make money, not to make friends. As soon as I realized this it all became a lot easier. Don't ever talk about yourself, most people just want to have one sided conversations about themselves with you anyway. You become numb to it after a while.

>> No.7846076

>>7845692
This site redirects you to infected pages,I just tried searching there.

>> No.7846078

>>7846054
I said they're worthless. I didn't say I would throw them in a pit and laugh at their misery. I just won't have anything to do with them unless I had a good reason. I didn't even say I hated them.

>>7846049
When people are running around saying things like loli is evil (just a random example) I would think they count under the "deluded" category. You could argue subjectiveness all you want but some things are clearly binary.

Either way I suppose we're derailing the thread.

>> No.7846079

>>7846017
Yes, this. I'm sure none of us would mind waiting some weeks until HF is back if the only option left is losing it forever.

I... I won't believe anything until there's an official announcement on their website.

>> No.7846092

>>7846078

>You could argue subjectiveness all you want but some things are clearly binary.

Where is your proof that there are a "correct" set of morals? I think they're subjective just like any other opinion. I might be wrong, but I don't think there's any proof either way.

>> No.7846095

>>7846062
Around me? Surely you jest.

You can see such behavior plastered on popular sites, on TV, everywhere. You can see what's popular and what's not. You can see what most people like and what they don't.

Don't delude yourself into thinking I'm being overly biased. I'm being reasonable on my assumptions on "normalcy".

>> No.7846098

>>7846029
What were you expecting, hongfire is always the first link found in google.
I am expecting /jp/ to be flooded where can I dl this.
Just realize it is already half a decade since I got an account in hongfire. Time sure passes fast.

>> No.7846102

>>7846092
Simple. Loli is either evil or it is not. Binary. You can argue that it doesn't matter whether a person believes it or not, you could argue that a person is right in his own mind and that's fine, but you can't argue that loli isn't logically either evil or not evil (or at the very least, somewhere in between assuming a between exists). If you do, I should start arguing that loli is not loli.

>> No.7846105

>>7846079
Exactly. It would be a shame to lose all of that shit just because Hong doesn't think people won't wait for a new server. Some of the stuff in the DDL and Torrent sections had okay discussion as well.

>> No.7846109

>>7846102

>Loli is either evil or it is not.

To the individual person, yes. But that was my point. There likely doesn't have to be just one "correct" answer (or "incorrect," for that matter).

>> No.7846114

>>7846109
One could argue since everything is subjective, the popular opinion is what decides what is good or bad.

>> No.7846115

>>7846062
You're not the only one. Although I live in a self-proclaimed "weird" city with a large alternative community so maybe I do live in a utopia.

>> No.7846116

>>7846095
Maybe my problem is I don't also judge all normalfags based on what I see on popular sites and TV (which I don't watch, for the record).

Do you live in the Unites States? This may make it much worse for you.

>>7846115
Sounds exactly like where I live.

>> No.7846118

>>7846109
On the contrary, to the individual person, no. A lunatic could believe that it is both evil and not evil. It doesn't make it true. I don't see how there can be two logical answers to a question of "evil or not evil". It's the same as saying A and not A.

>> No.7846119

>>7846114

>One could argue since everything is subjective, the popular opinion is what decides what is good or bad.

They could, but then they'd be using the appeal to popularity logical fallacy. I don't see any evidence that proves to me that popular opinion changes "reality."

>> No.7846121

>>7846079
>>7846017
Someone should suggest this to Hong. I don't use IRC or I would.

>> No.7846126

>>7846119
But what is logical and not?

Sometimes, it's logical to do the illogical.

When there is no reality, then the reality of the popular is what is forced upon us. We do not live alone. Being alive is being in a community, for the most part.

>> No.7846129

>>7846118

>I don't see how there can be two logical answers to a question of "evil or not evil".

So you do not believe in subjectivity at all? Either something is fun or it isn't. Either something is good or it isn't.

You still haven't proven that these things are "binary," as far as I see.

>> No.7846134

>>7846126

>But what is logical and not?

I don't know. What's your point? I just act based on my own observations and what I find likely. I don't find it likely that "reality" changes depending on what lots of people believe.

>> No.7846136

>>7846121
http://rizon.net/chat
Web client.

>>7845364
>@Rizon #HF-Network Network
Server and channel.

>> No.7846138

>>7846129
...

All I am saying. Is that in this case, the question is "evil or not evil". Fun differs between persons. If it was "hate or not hate" then yes, it'd be subjective. "Evil" is not subjective. It is a property.

Soon you'll be telling me that if I don't believe I exist then I don't exist because it's subjective.

>> No.7846140

>>7846126

Please let's not start this shit, this thread was about hongfire not freshmen philosophy 101

>> No.7846148

>>7846138
>"Evil" is not subjective. It is a property.

Yeeeeah, you keep telling yourself that.

>> No.7846149

>>7846136
There's probably tons of people in there. I don't think I can do it.

>> No.7846152

>>7846138

>"Evil" is not subjective. It is a property.

But what one person finds "evil" another person could find "good." Just like any other opinion. I'm not seeing the difference.

>Soon you'll be telling me that if I don't believe I exist then I don't exist because it's subjective.

Where did I say that all beliefs are subjective? I don't remember doing that. I have views on what I believe is subjective and what isn't. Of course, I could be wrong.

>> No.7846151

>>7846134
My point is, if everything is left to subjectivity, then even logic itself is. What can be a logical fallacy, if there is no concrete logic?

Reality does shift based on popular opinion, if you think more about it. Child porn is illegal, because people wanted it to be. That tower is built because popular opinion (indirectly) allowed it to be.

>>7846140
What's hongfire?

>> No.7846157

>>7846151

>if everything is left to subjectivity

But I never claimed that everything was.

>Reality does shift based on popular opinion

If lots of people believed that 2 + 2 was 5, do you think that would make it true? If you took two objects and placed them next to two more objects, how many objects would there be?

>> No.7846165

>>7846151
Think about what's "binary". It's code, isn't it? Numbers and such. They don't hold properties created by human beings, those properties may be created as a result of the code working out differently for humans, but they are by no means essential parts of the code itself.

>> No.7846173

>>7846157
Then I will claim it.

Yes, if everyone were taught that 2+2=5. How close do objects have to be to be considered "next" to each other? How does one define the object as an object?

When you ask these questions, you ask as though asking a human (or part of human society). When I answer them, I answer as though I weren't human (or part of human society).

All of our logic is based on what we are taught, how our brain works, and how our senses work. When even logic itself is subjective, what isn't?

>> No.7846174

>>7846165
hardly numbers, binary just means on or off, and in the case of computers binary refers to a code of whether or not a particular transistor is "on" or "off"

I wish I could say this conversation is hard to follow because its something I don't understand.

>> No.7846183

This thread reminds me of a time when 4chan had a loli board, a guro board, and anime/random.

It seems there is no room for perverts in the squeaky clean web2.0 nightmare.

Taking bets, how long until anonymity becomes a crime?

>> No.7846185

This is quickly turning sour now.

>> No.7846186

>>7846114
>>7846118
>>7846126
>>7846129
>>7846134
>>7846151
>>7846140
>>7846152
>>7846157
>>7846165
http://onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/

>> No.7846187

>>7846152
Is a circle evil? If you can't see the non-subjectiveness of "evil" from that then I give up. And just to preempt a certain argument, yes ethics can differ between things. If drawing a circle killed people, and killing people was evil, then certainly drawing circles would be unethical. But unethical, not inherently evil.

>>7846165
Binary is 2, two states, on or off, 0 or 1, true or false, depends on the situation.

>> No.7846190

>>7846173

>When even logic itself is subjective, what isn't?

I didn't know that logic was subjective. Do you have proof of that? If lots of people work to change society, then it changed because they changed it, not (or at least I haven't seen any evidence of this) because they believed it should change. They have to act.

>> No.7846197

>>7846187

>Is a circle evil?

I believe that depends on who you ask.

>> No.7846198

Game Over Rape ;_;

I think my account was registered back in 2004 or 06, sure will miss hongfire. RIP Hongfire 200_ - 2011.

I guess I'll just pay for the dlsite stuff myself now.

>> No.7846193

Holy shit so now what, where will all the new vns get released? Is it really over?
I do have here though http://www.fakku.net/viewforum.php?f=51
Any other good places?

>> No.7846200

>>7846193
Don't share the links or it will be the next one to be taken down.

>> No.7846202

>"Evil" is not subjective. It is a property.

Was (as much as I hate to use this as an example on /jp/ due to the shitposting it's associated with) nuking japan 'evil'?

"Take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy."

>> No.7846199

>>7846183
>a loli board,
That was spammed with cp until it was taken down.

>> No.7846206

So wait how did this happen? The server was in japan?

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7846208

>>7846197

I'll tell you one thing circles aren't: straight.

Them things are gayer than the sack of rainbows Jack gave Carlos as they walked into the hotel room together.

>> No.7846205

>>7846186

Oh, well. This thread was going nowhere with the whole, "One website was shutdown! It's the end of the world!" thing, anyway.

>> No.7846212

Its a sign that things need to stop when the argument goes in to questioning reality.

Not to say that the thing wasn't just plain fucking retarded to begin with.

>> No.7846213

>>7846190
If a blind man grew up, would color exist to him? Would he consider color in his thinking?
If you did something one way because you thought it was the fastest, but found out there was an even faster way to do it, was your previous attempt "illogical"?

Our actions are not when change begins, change begins when the thought to change exists. We cannot see this, however, and mostly attribute it to physical actions because it is the only proof we have. That is a shortcoming of our senses, though. We cannot see change unless it is physical.

>> No.7846214

>>7846197
No, the proper way to say it would be that the answer to the question "is a circle hateful" depends on who you ask. Listen, just because a person can believe something is true or not doesn't mean the validity of the statement depends on subjectiveness. Back to the "I exist" argument. Me believing I don't exist doesn't mean I don't exist. Me believing something is evil doesn't make it evil.

>>7846202
I don't know, but it's irrelevant.

>> No.7846215

This is terrible, but it's too soon to give up on the internet. The Hongfire people might still decide to move the servers, and the discussion threads might still get salvaged. Even if they don't, just looking at TT, people like girlcelly are already moving operations to other sites. No site does it as well as Hongfire but the community is still there and there are still sites where they can post this stuff. What really bothers me is that these DMCA'ers apparently banded together, but until games start to come out and they can't be found anywhere, there's no reason to flip out.

>> No.7846222

>>7846206
It happened this past week or so.

>> No.7846223

>>7846214
What does "evil" mean to you then? I honestly want to know what you think evil means, and what can be defined as evil.

>> No.7846224

Things are slowly moving towards the point where I don't want to live on this planet anymore...

>> No.7846226

Where will I get CM3D mods from now

>> No.7846227

>>7846213

>If a blind man grew up, would color exist to him? Would he consider color in his thinking?

Maybe not, but that doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist. I've seen no evidence to point to that conclusion.

>was your previous attempt "illogical"?

Your previous attempt took more time. It didn't necessarily defy logic.

>Our actions are not when change begins

But, as far as I've seen, things only change once people act.

>> No.7846228

>>7846206
Nope, the server was in America, the worst possible place to be in.

Even hosting it in Saudi Arabia would be a better choice.

>> No.7846230 [DELETED] 

Where is the archive:

>> No.7846231

Why must these people fuck with us? Why must they ruin the only safe place in the universe? Why must they ruin the internet? Do they like seeing people suffer and have to go back to only living and nothing else? Why are they destroying the future? Its like we are going back to the fucking stone ages.

>> No.7846235

>>7846228
What? Why would north america (I live here) care about fucking Japanese shit? They dont and never have.

>> No.7846236

>>7846231
See: Dark ages

>> No.7846234

>>7846174
>>7846187
Oh well. Ill rephrase it. Evil it's a product of the state of being "on". Evil cannot exist in the state of "off" because obviously nothing can.

>> No.7846238

>>7846223
I don't particularly believe in good or evil, that's why I think loli isn't evil. But it's really irrelevant, evil in this case can generally be taken as a moral statement, and it's either true or not true that loli is evil. It's like asking if it's morally wrong to cut your finger. Someone else can hate cutting fingers, but that doesn't mean I'm committing this great crime against humanity and the sun god by doing so.

>> No.7846240

>>7846214

>Listen, just because a person can believe something is true or not doesn't mean the validity of the statement depends on subjectiveness.

You keep saying this, but I don't think I said anything about it. I believe that good, bad, evil, and fun (and things similar to that) are subjective. I didn't say that everything was subjective and that there were no "right" answers. To that, I say: I don't know. But I do believe that there are "right" answers to some things.

I don't know how you're defining evil, but I'm beginning to think you have a different definition of it than me.

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7846243

>>7846231
>Why must they ruin the only safe place in the universe?

correction: the only safe place you know of.

Things will just happen to go underground, to forum sections that won't even be visible to non-members, where they aren't easily found, and sure as hell not able to be simply searched into by google.

>> No.7846247

>>7846228
2chan servers reside in the state of San Francisco. The internet was founded in USA so obviously everything's gonna be there.

>> No.7846248

Worst news I've heard all year.

I'm frustrated.

>> No.7846250

>>7846227
I'm just going to stop this. If my post didn't make sense to you, I really have no way to explaining. Don't think badly of me, I used to think the way you do.

I only think this way now because I've concluded it is the most logical way to think. If that has any stock.

Anyway, indulging in arguments over what is subjective and what isn't, isn't the best way to communicate with others. Sometimes it's best to adopt their ideas so they can understand you better.

>> No.7846252

>>7846243
Like 4chan in the past!!!!!

>> No.7846254

>>7846231
See: Catholicism, the middle ages, and Western Europe in general after the fall of the Roman empire, and subsequently, Eastern Europe during the mongol invasions, and later under the Ottomans.

>> No.7846259

Cheking the irc right now, looks like they won't put the DLL/torrent sections back up.

>> No.7846258

>>7846215

What forum did girlcelly move to and where she diligently updates whenever the game needs a nodvd patch, etc?

captcha: hiv/aids wingsar

>> No.7846264

>>7846259
So they're letting the oppressive scum win?
God damnit WHERE'D YOUR FUCKING HEART GO HONGFIRE?

>> No.7846266

>>7846250

>Don't think badly of me, I used to think the way you do.

And?

>Sometimes it's best

I think that would depend on who you ask.

>> No.7846267
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7846267

>>7846235
Because of this non-goyim right here, and his fetish for absolute control of every conceivable method of communication.

>> No.7846275

>>7846259
That's fucking bullshit. I doubt anyone would mind waiting for a new server and if they're worried about the cost, I'm sure people wouldn't mind donating.

>> No.7846282

>>7846267
Keep feeding the beast with your propaganda .

>> No.7846279

>>7846240
See >>7846238
Also all of this started because of >>7846041
I'm merely saying that for some things there is a true and false. At least, that's what I was trying to say at first.

>> No.7846281

>>7846254
Yeah, but we dont have to fucking give into this shit, throughout 1990-2000 we were finally changing for the better, now we are fucking going down hill.

>> No.7846284

>>7846266
Are you even reading my posts? Jesus Christ.

And think of it as a language. For the best results, it's best to speak a language they understand. I really didn't think it was possible to think so literally.

>> No.7846290

>>7846281

and instead of writing an angry letter to *both* of your state's senate congressmen and at least one letter to a house congressman, you are going to do nothing and take this up the ass.
Yea, it's not like this is just happening for no reason and there's nothing you can do except bend over and take it up the ass or anything.

>> No.7846292

>>7846290
Congress? Doing something? Don't fucking make me laugh. They're specifically designed to fucking do nothing.

>> No.7846296

Uh. It says it's gonna switch servers so why's everybody flipping their burgers to the roof?

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7846302

>>7846296
read the damn thread.

>> No.7846303

>>7846296
I dunno man, why didn't you read any of the fucking posts in this thread, including the OP?

>> No.7846307

>>7846296
Because they are removing the torrent/DLL section.
Really, if they are removing that, they migth as well close the website.

>> No.7846309

>>7846284

>Are you even reading my posts?

How would reply to sections of your posts without doing that?

>For the best results, it's best to speak a language they understand.

If your goal is to make satisfy them, yes.

>I really didn't think it was possible to think so literally.

How was I supposed to think? It seemed like you were stating something else entirely.

>> No.7846324

>>7846302
>>7846303
Because mostly y'all just spazz or perabulate away from the topic of tounge.

>>7846307
When was this statement made and by whom?

>> No.7846333

Holy shit there are so many awful fallacies in this thread it makes me want to puke. You guys are absolutely terrible at arguing about "logic" and "philosophy" but are incredibly good at wording your garbage as if you were some sort of pseudo-intellectuals.

>> No.7846334

Here is where I go for eroge

http://eaterra.net/site/

>> No.7846338

>>7846333

the two aspies flinging ass pies at each other's faces don't represent the whole of /jp/.

>> No.7846340

>>7846333
Only real-deal intellectuals here.

>> No.7846354

>>7846333

What fallacies? Would you care to name them?

>> No.7846362

If they go down because of a piece of shit website like hentaikey that makes terribad shit with stolen characters that will be the saddest thing ever.

What were they even saying in the IRC, can't they just give the database to someone else to host if they're too fucking lazy to host elsewhere or ask for donations, who the fuck even hosts a torrent site in the US, its a wonder it survived that long.

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7846415

i love perfect dark more each day

>> No.7846416

I guess I'm going have to figure out how to use IRC sooner or later at this point. Last time I tried, I got kicked off because the admin didn't like my name.

>> No.7846417

>>7846362
How are they reacting to knowing most of their community is going to leave?

>> No.7846429

>>7846309

>How would reply
>make satisfy them

That doesn't even make sense. You have failed to properly utilize the very language that you're attempting to communicate with others in. Therefore, all of your arguments are completely incorrect.

You're absolutely nothing. Your cheeks can't even flap at five gigaflops a second! Such absolute garbage cheeks you have!

>> No.7846447

>>7846416

http://thesaurus.reference.com/wordoftheday

that word followed by _x1 is guaranteed to be both available and not cause that sort of shit.

also, use a 10m email to verify the name and you shouldn't get insta-kicked/banned upon joining a channel ever.

>> No.7846473

>>7846429

What does my spelling/grammar have to do with the validity of my arguments?

>> No.7846486

>>7846473

not him, but in short:
those sort of errors ad hominem yourself.

They make you look like an uneducated fucktard whose opinion isn't worth bothering with, regardless of what you are saying.

>> No.7846489 [DELETED] 

>>7846473

Don't you get it, you fuckin' fucker cheeks patty? You're absolutely nothing. You failed to properly utilize the English language. Therefore, any arguments you made are completely incorrect right this minuteness.

Saying otherwise means you don't understand life itself. I'd crumple such absolute garbage cheeks up and throw them directly into the dumpster!

>> No.7846493

>>7846417
Just checked the IRC, no one is even talking about it, just random shit. Guessing the admins are long gone/afk, don't know if anyone saw what they were saying earlier on why they won't rehost the only important parts of their site.

>> No.7846510

>>7846486

>They make you look like an uneducated fucktard whose opinion isn't worth bothering with, regardless of what you are saying.

Oh, I see. Well, you forgot to capitalize the first letters of a few of your sentences. That must mean that everything you said was invalid.

>> No.7846527

>>7846510

When you walk out that door, do you think anyone's gonna care about you!?

Therefore, all of your arguments are completely incorrect right this minuteness.

>> No.7846542

>>7846493
Try asking one of the @. You will see why no one is talking about this.

>> No.7846570

>>7846542
Asspain about bad decisions, and banhammer threats, like all weak admins always end up doing?

>> No.7846620

>>7846542
Why aren't they?

>> No.7846645

>>7846620

it's been....how long now since it happened?

how long do you think they've been answering the exact same questions all day to every new name that joins the channel?
It's almost surprising a mini-FAQ hasn't replaced the MoTD with a "if you pester a @ with a question answered in this MoTD you will be kicked from the channel" type message at the end of it.

>> No.7846675

What the fuck happened in this thread?

Anyway, RIP Hongfire, the final good web 1.0 website. Unless you count bakaupdate/mangaupdate or stoptazmo. But they aren't so good anymore.

>> No.7846751

>>7846645
I doubt its much if not even one person said anything about it in public chat and they didn't even make it public, just the OP here saying its a decision from Hong, I doubt many people know about it anyway.

I'm not even sure if OPs post is 100% valid, did anyone talk to one of the admins? Don't feel like pestering them if someone already did.

>> No.7846772

>>7846751
Go ahead. No one have ask them directly.

>> No.7846869

So where is this archive site?

>> No.7847114

>>7846869
Seconding this.

>> No.7847613

I never cared much for games, just HCG.

Any good places for that?

>> No.7847788

>>7846869
I asked in the thread but never got an answer.

>> No.7848584

If a new thread is made, shouldn't it have the IRC channel in the Opening post?
Then again, that might just flock people to pester them needlessly.

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