/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Haven and Hearth is a crappy game that is pure grinding and shit along those lines.

>>7661599
Except the grinding has been completely removed several months ago. The game now has a system that gives you LP over time for having certain items in slots in your character sheet. Repeatedly doing the same action doesn't give you any LP; you only get LP the first time you do something.

People from Hinamizawa: Please return the keys whenever you're done using them. We're running out of keys here and can't create new ones.

>>7661625
So now instead of being progress quest where you have to press buttons repeatedly, it's just progress quest.

>>7661629

Seriously? You just hand out keys to your place like they were candies?

>>7661631

>complain about grind
>complain about no grind

filtered

We need a new clay deposit, sir

I am thinking bolad, not yukari's arcanum danmaku bounded field.

What are some good strategies for going afk while logged in for long periods of time (10 irl hours or so) without getting killed? I don't want to sail to the middle of a lake and leave only to come back later and find out people can sink boats.

So, why is there a new village yet again?

I'm not going to join your village but I would be interested in trading rare items for high FEP foodstuffs with you guys if you have any. If you lot are interested let me know and I'll swing by later on in the day.

>>7662051
what "Rare Items"? And what FEPs are you interested in? STR? INT? You need to make your wants more clear so people will know what to make or if it's even worth making.

>>7662026
Hide behind trees?

>>7662064
STR, INT, AGI, and PER are what I'm looking for, from stuff like cheese for example.
I have lots of ant hill curios, a few foraging curios, and some yak hair, but I'm willing to put in the time to look for and craft other curiosities. I just hate the settlement side of this game, I'd rather explore and go on adventures instead.

>>7662013
Some people feel like they need to explain their opinions, even if they are completely subjective.
They assume "This game is bad because x" sounds more convincing than "I dislike this game".

Hinamizawa:
We have been visited by SilkRoad today. They are a small friendly Russian village, and they are afraid of us because we outnumber them (there are only 5 of them). We have received lots of gifts from them, and they have laid a foundation for our village claim. They are very helpful; please don't disrespect them. They also managed to break down the palisade of the abandoned village, so that's their territory now; don't raid it.

An update on the information of Alpha Site: It's a Russian village with 5-7 villagers.

>>7661989
Correct.

>>7662048
Voile's village doesn't accept new players anymore, and they're being beaten up by their "protectors".

>>7662026
Stay inside your house in a palisaded area on your personal claim in a village claim, that's the safest place. Houses are generally safe, though, unless there's other players specifically out to kill you. And yes, boats can be sunk.

Found a new clay deposit.

>iluvOP in OP's screenshot

Where do I sign up for this game?

>>7662348
Still freaking because of one guy unconnected to our benefactors?

Our birck wall's first and largest section is nearing completion, and I have the wrought iron to make the next section, all that stops us is that making these walls eats clay deposits for breakfast.

and I do still acept new players, its just I grow tired of seeing this ever-growing field of inactive hearthfires that serve to do nothing more than be an impedance.

also please watch yourself on the keys, its seldom wise to keep so loose a policy.

I was also hoping you guys would've been a bit closer so we could trade every one in a while, but that's fine. We can just be two villages with unfortunate names.

I got invited to a kin and accepted because I didn't want them to kill me.

Once I accepted the guys' name appeared and it was in Russian.

Fuck.

>>7663226
Two of them came by, gave me a rabbit and offered to help me build a house. I refused and they left.

Better than expected.

What's this...?

HOLY FUCK

>>7663514
>>7663516
You've got yourself an iron mine now too, awesome.

>>7663544
It's not just an iron mine. Many buildings full of cupboards full of loot. It feels like I opened an inventory editor.

>>7662348
That pali ain't going to do shit

What is the newest password for the new town?

>>7663563
I'd hesitate to say it that strongly, unless you're finding 3 druid cloaks in one of those cupboards.

Do remember not to waste it, that stuff will drain in a week if you let it.

>>7663563
well we just got looted at home by the farun guy.. all the good equipment and metals are gone.

I think he flipped out in quiet rage after he asked "who has all the keys" and I said "People who need them."

You gotta share, this village is all about sharing, if you want the items come get it motherfucker.

>>7663725
I hope you can hide stuff pretty good cause now you got no friends and no allies. You need to be more patient next time and really more on your own crafting skills instead of looting & leeching your home village.

It really is like an inventory editor. Inventory editors really spoil all of the fun. It feels like there's no point to playing anymore when you just get everything just like that.

I really don't feel like playing anymore, so I'll be taking a break for a while. I've put the hard to obtain construction materials in the Hinamizawa village claim so it can be finished. Not sure what I'll do with the keys to that place when I come back, maybe I'll chuck them into the lake or something.

>>7663760
not him but i think you should look first where you are before complaining about someone leeching from their own home.

>>7663725
also, I knew you couldn't be trusted, I guess that's the last time I second guess my instincts. I saw you moving those chests around and I thought to myself "He's up to no good because he's not getting his way." and then I thought "nah, no way somebody is THAT childish, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, he's probably just crafting something. I won't harass him and make him out to be a black sheep." because I actually thought I did hurt your feelings earlier so I tried to lay off. But no, hell no, your a little impatient, self-entitled shithead and you're nothing but bad news for anybody around you unless you're getting exactly what you want.

Anyways, thanks for the lesson. I'll trust my gut better next time I hear somebody whine about how bad they want leather for their cool little looking bows and arrows.

Am I in the right place?

>>7663853
nope nope nope you don't want to be there get out of there wihle you stil CAN

>>7663909
Could you point out where I should be then?

Wow, you can't swim for more than five seconds without drowning.

Game is shit. Dropped.

More clay close by, for Aokigahara

>>7663924
as far away from there as hearthlingly possible

Q27 right around here

>>7663925
That's like the first thing you learn when visiting the forums.

>>7663853
That'd be out village, if you want to stay you can.

>>7663943
What do those little red sqaures mean?

>>7664524

Those are trees/rocks/bushes hidden with the Ender client.

world 5 killed Haven and Hearth.

The proof is in the population. World 4, peak hours had 1400 people.

World 5, peak hours is maybe 500.

Prove me wrong.

>>7664818
less raiders, no problem with that.

>>7664822
The LP system is fucking stupid. All you do now is wait for your character to earn LP so you can actually do something.

I enjoyed working around my settlement earning LP for the work I did. Now you don't even play the game to earn LP, you just put a fucking item in your book and AFK.

Aokigahara: you guys are planning to block off the water, right?

Somebody stole my Strange Root. ;_; I'm gonna have to put points into Ranging, either that or put a palisade around my house.

>>7664848
block off the water? we're completely closing Aokigahara in with brick walls, there will only be one gate, being near to the water, but that's only for use in emergencies anyways, you get out by the crossroads next to the cave entrance and hearthfire travel to get back in to the town.

>>7664908
you aren't allowed to do that.

>>7664943
Why?

>>7664948
Because it is considered a hearth vault and Loftar will come nuke your shit to dust if somebody gets a hair up their ass and reports you for it.

>>7664952
>you aren't allowed to use the mechanics of the game to its full extent
Dropped.

>>7664952
You cant be serious.

>>7664952
Precedent or article to prove it sir, else you're full of shit

>>7664967
>>7664956
I am completely serious. Look it up in the forum. You are not allowed to build an area that is impossible to break into.

>>7664974
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20931&p=252590&hilit=hearth+vaul
t#p252590

here you go.

>>7664975
except it isn't impossible, people can use rams on it.

Its just very hard, the town is completely legal.

>>7664967
No reaction image shenanigans, please.

>Hearth vaults are broken game mechanisms used by scumbag fuckholes to circumvent the justice sytsem implemented by the developers to avoid having Haven & Hearth morph into a griefer-fest.

>Unfortunately, the developers aren't nuking them anymore so feel free to join the assclowns and ruin the game to your heart's content.

>>7664952
>A hearthvault is a small brickwalled area with a house in it meant to protect a criminal's hearthfire.

An illegal hearthvault is a hearthvault that, because of placement, is impossible to attack with a ram.

>Only illegal hearthvaults have the potential to be nuked by the devs.

No sir.

>>7664952
They wouldn't have put brick walls in the game if they couldn't be penetrated

An illegal Hearthvault is one that can NOT be penetrated. This town is capable of being penetrated if someone put enough effort in to it.

>>7664986
They say they aren't in world 4, they start doing it again in world 5, now they stopped doing it again? Lazy Swedish developers. I'm glad I quit 3 weeks into world 5, it was so fucking horribly boring. I tried liking world 5, I really did.

The need for these and a justice system would be averted if somebody just made some private servers with no PvP and criminal acts. I'd play again if this happened.

>>7665006
I'd kill to get my hands on the server-software.
Unfortunately jorbtar won't release it :(

>>7665006
>>7665020
Oh yeah and revert the gameplay back to grindfest world 4. It wasn't the grinding I enjoyed, but the LP I got from working around my settlement made me feel like I was actually getting somewhere.

Without PvP and criminal acts, grinding for hours and hours would be pointless, and get rid of the people abusing this by using bots and basically let the people who actually enjoyed the game enjoy the game again.

>>7665029
get server-software.
add (NPC) invasions.

I could even settle for a boring and flat world with some trees and water.

>>7665035
That would be pretty fun. I was a big fan of just surviving out in the wilderness and fending off the occasional boar and rare bear.

I miss the game, I really do. But the idea behind the LP system currently in use is abhorrent and I refuse to play it.

>>7665029
>Oh yeah and revert the gameplay back to grindfest world 4. It wasn't the grinding I enjoyed, but the LP I got from working around my settlement made me feel like I was actually getting somewhere.
>Without PvP and criminal acts, grinding for hours and hours would be pointless, and get rid of the people abusing this by using bots and basically let the people who actually enjoyed the game enjoy the game again.
Yeah, because in MMORPGs without full PVP players never grind, right? Oh, wait...

And get rid of the bots? You must be kidding. If it's grindable through crafting or some other non-situation-dependent repeatable action, then it will be botted to hell and back.

>>7665073
The point I'm making is that it won't benefit anybody by doing so, not in a PvP sense, since there would be no PvP on these supposed private servers.

Bot all they want, they wouldn't really be ruining anybody's fun. The population would be fairly small, so some asshole botting and taking up a large amount of good resources won't affect anybody with a map as big as world 4 was.

The only time bots bothered me was when they deforested. Why were they botting for that? PvP purposes. Nobody would bother botting the game if there's nobody's fun to ruin.

Also, shouldn't this thread be in /v/? This has nothing to do with /jp/. Only Koreans and Russians play this game.

>>7665092
All of /jp/'s mmo games logically belong in /v/. Maybe its a tradition? I don't know.

>>7665092
I like the concept, but the gameplay it's fucking too impratical.

>>7665103
Not that I blame you for NOT posting this in /v/.

/v/illages do NOT work.

>>7665103
everything on /jp/ belongs to some other board.
VNs? /a/ or /v/
anime? /a/
mmos? /v/
type-moon? /a/
touhou? /a/, /v/, /mu/ etc.
if we start watching things like this, here belongs just the shit nobody cares about.

>>7665119
Figurines?

Lol. But we can actually hold an intellectual conversation about that shit here, without threads turning into shitfests.

>>7665123
figs goes to /toy/ or /a/, kigs goes on 7cgl/...
it's a little sad, but actually this board's existece is pretty meaningless...
I hope you guys understand that /jp/ is still up just to keep us away from the other boares.

>>7665130
Well I admit I don't regularly lurk /jp/ but I see a lot less trolling here than the boards you mentioned. A H&H thread with no trolls? Impossibru!

>>7665130
Why do you think the board content rules are so vague? Its for the higher/deeper levels of the Japanese media beyond simple things like anime or the like, so normals don't have to deal with us.

I like this board, nothing wrong with it at all.

>>7665134
... just keep coming here, and you'll understand.

>>7665134
Look around a bit, you'll find /jp/ seldom trolls itself, its almost always from the outside

For a /jp/ village there aren't that many /jp/ names.

>>7665163
Because its a game? I don't know, there are a few /jp/-related names but they didn't play long. Even Voile who is a /jp/-er for sure didn't use a /jp/ name.

>>7664908
Oh come on. We need to be hunting and exploring more. How can we do that if we're entirely bricked in? Oh wait.../jp/, nevermind.

>>7665504
I know you're entirely joking but I will reiterate that you can get out by way of the cross-roads, just make sure you don't have too much travel weariness. and when you want back in, you can teleport to your hearthfire.

Its still a gate, just not a conventional one

Are those Sypder and Uncle Phil characters part of the village?

>>7665529
No, They're friend's of Ares, all of which have helped us, though make sure you never wear a fox hat around spider, unless you want to get knocked out.

Also, it would be appreciated if we started making linen cloth, we need to expand the village claim to cover the walls.

what the fuck

Did Mugen end up joining? I'm interested in purchasing some onions from him...

q30 clay at the marked spot, right next to a couple kilns. The land is unclaimed, but the nearby village may consider it their territory. Proceed at your own risk and stay frosty!

A boar raided my hovel, chased me to a swamp, stunned me and left me to be devoured by leeches.
I hate that stun system.

Is there any way to stop someone from outright taking everything you have and/or killing you? The combat balance seems so poor, either you are invulnerable to someone and can do whatever you want to their stuff, or you are completely dominated and can't do crap all. It's annoying that I can't really protect myself or my stuff at all. It would be nice if there could be a no grief server because the building mechanics and community progression own, but I can't see how I can protect my stuff, or even advance to a point where I can when there's no way to be safe.

>>7667823
You pretty much have to build brick walls. That stops anything but an organized assault with a battering ram, which is unlikely to happen unless you kill/steal from another city.

I keep getting onion bulbs every time I dry a www, pretty soon gonna have me a useless onion field.

>>7667633
how do you get such a detailed map?

>>7668013
http://www.algeralith.info/HavenMap/

>>7664994
Speaking off.. we need to clear cut the forest to the east so we can see any rams being made...

I'm in (decided to try rejoining after some time, and i'm liking the new no-grind system for now) but i can't find Hinamizawa. I'm afraid I'm on the wrong side of the river.

I got taken in by some Russians.

Why is it so hard to say no?

>>7668938
Oh crap, I forgot about that. I quit and relocated my hearth fire in case some idiot decided to track me for the scents left behind at >>7663516 , but I forgot people still use my hearth fire to spawn. Sorry, will log in once more and put my HF on the other side of the river.

>>7667823
Most players won't be able to reach you if there's a palisade. They'd need to build a battering ram right outside the palisade and wait 12 hours for it to dry (during which you can destroy it). The really weak players can't even steal from a claimed area at all.

If you're talking about the Aokigahara "protectors", though, not even a brick wall is going to keep them out. They're the equivalent of max-leveled characters in other MMOs, strong enough to destroy a palisade with bare hands. If necessary they'd just quickly construct a battering ram and protect it properly, or raft a battering ram over there. There's a reason why true hearth vaults have many layers of brick.

>>7669568
and you're living near one of the top-tier russian villages, and our protectors need no quotes, they're friendly

Stop with your propaganda, and next time include ways to both villages in the OP.

HF rebuild on the other side of the river. I've left one boat and several boat foundations behind, please use them to cross to the other side and head south from there to find Hinamizawa.

>>7669573
>Stop with your propaganda, and next time include ways to both villages in the OP.
"Lemuria" used to direct new players to Aokigahara, even after TesuTo56 no longer did. However, as Voile didn't want any new players in Aokigahara, my hearth fire was destroyed, leaving newbies unable to join a /jp/ village (>>7656815). That is one of the main reasons Hinamizawa was founded.

There's a boar around nipponv2's hearth

Managed to kill my first boar, and finalised my palisade the other day.

Waiting for the glue to dry before continuing it.

>>7669820
*2 boars

>>7669666
You left?

You didn't like the guys who killed the retarded newbie that pretty much could have ruined the entire village by leading his attackers back to the village.

You took all of your crops and left the village. What are you talking about?

>>7669559
hmm, well the way i see this now is we have have had a few leave from us also so anyone at vdz's claim should get their skills up and do as well as they can. I see that place asa good training ground since there will be a lot of trees and much still around it and its free to come/go with they keys..

Once and a while we will need some more people with certain skills so could send a village invite and I or a frind could travel down to destroy the HF

>>7669820
nipponv2 was going to be my alt farmer but its to far away so i stoped using it(like 3h travel or more)

>>7669874
About this, i had hear that phil put out a message to everyone and most people said to do it.
but the guy was being told in village chat what to do but ignored it and kept asking what to do...
being KO'ed it totally different to being killed, I've been KO'ed a lot in this game(mostly mining.. need a few more HHP to stop that)

>>7669559
Thank you.

>>7671319
Is anyone actually there? I'm in front of the western door, but there's nobody around to let me in...

I was killed. Fuck this game.

>>7671720
How? Was it your first life?

>>7671720
I got killed by ants. Deal /w it

I've only ever been killed by a griefer, back in world 4. There was a guy going around killing everybody for LP. I had about 100k total LP on the character, he got like 3.1k LP for killing me.

Is there a page on the forums for Aokigahara? if so, whats the link?

>>7673061
what do you mean?

and anyone at vdz village(the pali wall one) want to open the gate? we bring a gift!

Oh wow I remember playing this game with /jp/ about a year ago or so. Fuck it was boring after the first few days. We had no iron and got killed by asshole russians.

>>7673194
The Aokigahara and Hinamizawa met up...

>>7673244
And our sister village is born...

http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/x=113&y=75&zoom=9
http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/?x=6&y=71&zoom=9

Cords

>>7673553
>Walls around cliffs

Who built that wall and how new are they?

>>7673776
First link is broken.

>>7673854
I did, they're as old as Hinamizawa. The original idea was to have the cliffs as natural wall, but not only does it cause spacing issues (which can be solved), it also makes you vulnerable to cliffjumping glitches. Using cliffs as a natural wall is a very bad idea.

>>7673863
you mean the same glitches that are used to jump walls?

>>7673244
>>7673553
>mfw when I'm Tsundere

Big drama just happened in aokigahara.

>>7675250
What happened?

>>7675259
We need voile online, NOW

Someone got killed, and we're facing a BRIG DRAMA out of it

Great, now we're getting raided.

Is it safe to login?

>>7675422
Oh lovely. If only it didn't take forever to get decent at combat.

>>7675422
Stop saying things like that, I log on and everything's kosher save Alt who is only tangentally affiliated with us.

if anybody from Aokigahara needs clay ask around some of the Hinamizawaians - we found a deposit not too long ago - sorry don't have a map :< if anything I might be back on in 10 hours or so.

not sure why /jp/ers are willing to play a game that is chock-full of exploits, one of which is the ability for griefers to set your town to perma-raid status

wwwwwww

>>7673244
>>7673553
Forgot to trip these two..

>>7675478
i heard there was a bear roaming bear the wall but thats was it..

There's Koreans in our basement...

>>7675289
I need to set up some method of people or someone to actively contact me in whatever case my presence be required, as I don't often check this thread or my email.

>>7676932
that is why i suggested a forum which noone really uses..

is it just me or did the server just fucking crash?

>>7677455
That it did, wonder how long it'll take to come back up

Do fishes have nodes like clays? It feels like the farther away from a point the lower level i get em.

Also Riverend and Roadville seemed to be abandoned now... lots of items not of claim

>>7677631
They work like nodes according to the wiki. Fish levels depend on your fishing rod and bait I think.

>>7677455
>The server is currently shutting down...
>Currently saving all maps – 0/1 maps in world 6230/17961 saved...

>shutting down
Doesn't look like 'crash'. I wonder what's going to happen.

The server is up

There are 249 hearthlings playing.

Of these, there are 26 from Poland, 23 from United States, 19 from Russian Federation, 17 from Korea, and 16 from United Kingdom.

Level 20-35 ball clay

Well i probably won't be able to log on in a while.. for some reason my password won't work, I might of registered with my other email which I can't acsess as of right now. :(

started, ended up in the middle of nowhere, did random things with the trees nearby, tried forever trying to get LP for 'discovering' my starting clothes without it ever working (thanks wiki!), found the village(?), couldn't get in and no one around, run around for a while, find some guy's skeleton but I can't loot it, log off

Is there an actual guide that is /useful/ to someone that does not know what is going on? The one on the wiki says to change your personal beliefs before you learn things, but never actually tells you how to do that (yay random clicking) or that you can only change them a little at a time.

>>7677891
That is neither Aokigahara nor Hinamizawa. I think you weren't let in because the residents of whatever village that is don't know you.

>>7677891
Try this
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=247

>>7677701
That swamp and mudflat are both shaped like dicks.

>>7677891
>get exploration up with survival
>randomly run around looking for curiosities or make some cone cow
>put curios in your study "table"
>get passive LP doing nothing


Also anyway to tame sheep/cow/pig that has been already tamed by someone else? aka stealing

>>7678118
If you have animal husbandry and theft, I think you can just tie a rope around them and lead them off the property. You'd need a raft to get them over rivers though.

Some Aurochsen near the west wall, just a little notice

Made another acc, i'm xeros i (ign)
But now Iknowthatfeelbro coobie, a boar is stalking me. :<
Saving up to build a boat bc i can't find my way back to the village.

>>7678796
>Iknowthatfeelbro
>:<
>bc
I say this person be exiled from the village.

>>7678817
Calm down, i'm more intelligible than you provocate.I'm just furious of how I cannot access my character.You don't know me in game do you?
.. I guess it's to be expected.

>>7678906
I was talking about how you don't fit in because you just recently found /jp/ and are not used to its customs yet.

>>7679024
I didn't recently find /jp/ i've been lurking /jp/ for more than a year now.Excuse that shitpost.. My post could use more touhou pictures.Haven and Hearth is slightly related to /jp/, "emoticons are for idiots" yes and I should stop using short forms and give it the effort /jp/ does everyday. Sorry my bretheren! Seems I forgot we are exploring a fictional Germany, will do my best and bring some visual novels and the like.
I do post more casually on /jp/ sorry.I'll be more serious.

>>7679190
Were basing playing HnH is making us more NEET...
Well since ive been skipping EVE roams for HnH i really need to cut back my play time (which ive started but its jsut being used up on the week of anime i missed)

Well seeing as i'm in the middle of clay nodes (3 of them all facing eachother on a river)
.. i'm lost.
I won't get anywhere on this game unless someone could help me get back to the village.
I finally got the boat-making skill.. but now I have no guidance.

>>7679250
If you have a Hearth Fire, Adventure -> Travel to -> Your hearth fire.

>>7679198
I stopped playing for a while since the game was literally eating all of my time. Then I realized I wasn't doing anything useful with my time without HnH anyways and started playing again. Not spending my time in HnH 24/7 anymore, though.

Help, how do I into village

>>7679264
I know, but I don't have a hearthfire near the village.

I Wish I did cause then I would have no dilemma.
Plus, I can only play in fullscreen.. presumably because I have java update 6? That's what I got from looking at the forums all day.

>>7679280
which one?

There's Aokigahara which is open to new players again, hearth secret is "TesuTo56" and then there's Hinamizawa who's hearthsecret is "Lemuria" i believe?

>>7679307
I thought Aokigahara was closed, so I hearthsecret'd to Hinamizawa, and I guess the person inside doesn't have a key. At least he told someone else at the gate he didn't.

>>7679336
I guess I'll just AFK in front of the gate while I make a quick run to the cleaners.

>>7679336
Voile reopened it yesterday, just post in this thread asking Voile or Freya to invite you to village.

>me and aldwyn making pie

>>7679298
well it would help to know where somebody could find you :)

So which of our (Aokigahara's) neighbors are we not allowed to raid?

>>7679572
Iron Curtain and Sigma, republic of Melsonia, as those are where our helpers come from

Also wait until we have the walls up at least, mind you raiding things will bring out people who can possibly break our walls, so don't go pillaging anything too dangerous looking.

>>7679578
If they look like a they are part of a bigger city leave if.. if its just a simple farm then grab some food, creates or what not..

make sure you have decent UA first though...

>>7679501
Met up with some dude while on a boat, camping at his place. Going to ask for location hopefully tomorrow. Willpost if i can :p.

Im asking for permission for my boyfriend to join Aokigahara. His username is Lex

>>7679711
That information alone is not enough.

If he's a character that's already around, he needs to figure out his location so he can travel here or one of us can find him.

If he's not and wishes to create a character here, use the Hearth secret "TesuTo56" and I'll add him once I see him wandering around.

>>7679711
>my boyfriend
WHAT HAS /JP/ COME TO

>>7679722
Several of the players aren't /jp/-ers you know.

>>7679653
so long as you haven't crossed to many land-bodies then get back on the river you originally went out on and just head south till you can't south on it anymore - no matter what - then head west - not matter what. If you hit a mountain then you've gone just a tiny-bit to far west and south were practically due north of that gigantic city next to the south-east side of the mountain.

Someone just took off with my boat.
It feels just as bad as when someone took off with my car last Christmas.

Lynn: I left the boat with your chests next to my log cabin (on the northeast side of the village) and set theft permissions.

>>7679942
At least rebuilding a boat isn't that hard, someone took the two Raw Lucky Rabbit's Feet I left drying while I was out

I have been playing this game for a while, but it feels too un-/jp/-ish. I guess I'll go read some VNs, play touhou or watch anime.

Protip: This game will eat your time and rape you like a fifty metres tall tentacle monster. However, if you insist on playing it, I'll post a map and instructions to find the key and my farm later in this thread. There are tons of wardrobes full of food and interesting items there, and I believe it's only 30 minutes away from Hinamizawa.

some lithuanians came by and wanted to kill japs, I'm sure one of you is to blame

one of them nearly killed me even though the other one told him not to

they killed my fox for me and left so I guess it was ok?

>>7681031
I gave those fuckers a ride to the next island which was practically a small island that has nothing lol. they hearthed probably already.

>>7681031
Aokigahara or Hinamizawa?

Excuse the night,
I went south then west but now it's making me go east. There was a split in the river where i could go east or west, but I went west and now it's making me go east.
Am i near the village?

I started last week, but somehow missed the thread
how do I join your village?

>>7681419
Can't tell where that is, which village are you trying to get to?

>>7681463
New characters can use hearthsecret and creation. To go to Aokigahara, use "TesuTo56". To go to Hinamizawa, type "Lemuria"(?).

If you don't want to start over, try to pinpoint your location on the worldmap located here: http://algeralith.info/HavenMap and show us so we can either map out a route for you. If your strength is over 25 anf you have a pickaxe, you can break your hearthfire, ask whichever village you want to come to for an invite, and teleport to it.

>>7681547
Oh.. i'm trying to get to Hinamizawa.
I'm at Diamond rangers runestone right now..
not sure if that is any help.

>>7681567
Figure out where you are on here:
http://www.algeralith.info/HavenMap/
Then head towards Roadville.

My cozy home.

>The server appears to have crashed :(
>The server last talked to me at Sat Jul 30 18:58:59 2011 (UTC)
Dammit.

I'm so sick of the fucking raiders. They just come into my farm and take all my shit whenever they damn well please. I'm considering moving to the thickest forest I can spot on the map.

>>7681796
Walls

or live in the middle of nowhere,

>>7681793
Of course I'm out digging clay when it happens.

>>7681796
Claim your land

Sorry Sec, my client seems to be not connecting to the server.

>>7681796
Learn Yeomanry and claim your area, that way they can't steal things unless they have trespassing (20k LP) and Theft (30k LP), and even then it leaves scents which allow them to be tracked and summoned (even if they're offline). After that, start saving up for a Palisade to protect you. To destroy a Palisade that's on a claim, they need Vandalism (50k LP, requires Trespassing and Theft) and either over 500 strength or a battering ram (which is expensive to make, requires 24 hours to dry and can't move very far before breaking again; repairing takes another 12 hours). If they keep bothering you even with a claim and a palisade, you seem to have seriously pissed someone off.

>>7681811
Yeomanry is noob protection at most. Fucking russians don't give a shit.

>>7681819
Better than nothing

Quite a bit better than nothing, it will at least deter the majority of people that wander about. Walls even more so.

It's a good thing the server went down. I had long since forgotten what a drawn pussy looked like.

Thank god the server is down. Finally I can get some much needed rest to get over this cold that I'm having.

Also Aldwyrn Dyrgott here. If you read this Sec, then you should know that I'll let you into my home next time I'm online. I'm sorry, the server seemed to crash right as I was getting ready to not only respond to your request but load crates in the cart so I could harvest some motherfucking flax, wheat, and pumpkins.

>>7681819
a claim with even a fence will stop a lot of people, you need vandalism to break the fence to get in, also put you HF as a way in

>>7681906
Only a gateless fence. People with trespassing can open fence gates.

>frying some chickenbreast
>1 tbls olive oil
>2 tbls flax seeds
>1/2lbs chicken breast
>salt pepper red pepper flakes etc

God this modern society is awesome

>>7681919
yes, with a HF as a way in as i said..

(pic taken from sevenless guide, you know.. the one i tell everyone to read)

We could expand southwards using the cliffs. We wont need alot of palisades for that.

http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21053
last post made lol

server is up

>>7681936
not anymore it's not

>The server appears to have crashed :(

The server last talked to me at Sat Jul 30 21:35:49 2011 (UTC)

>The server appears to have crashed :(
>The server last talked to me at Sat Jul 30 21:35:49 2011 (UTC)
Dammit.

>>7681935
Is this true?

>>7681935
This is why we can't have anything nice.

Next time I pick a huge time waster I'll make sure it has nothing at all to do with 4chan. A tall order if there ever was one.

>>7682081
>>7682085
Of course not, dipshits. This is the usual 'LOLOL I HAX YOU I AM SUPER POWERFUL COMPUTER HAXOR SO GIMME ALL UR STUFF' bullshit threat from a 13 year old kid who thinks he can trick people with that. And judging by your posts, it seems he can.

>>7681930
yeah I was thinking about that yesterday and forgot.. let's do that! Can't be bricks unless one of the neighbors set's it up the initial build -- I still need to discover metal. If anybody from Aokigahara is reading this, I'm on my way up there to beg ya'll for some more metal nuggets :) and maybe a tour of a mine if you have one.

btw can we set up crossroads between our villages?

>>7682091
Yeah that darn kid he sure got us, oh boy is my face red. Meanwhile I'm still not able to log in, but it must be completely unrelated to a threat of downtime made a day before by a silly billy 13 year old needle dick. Darn it.

Ah fuck. It crashed right as Coobie, Doud, and I were getting all of that plant fiber and straw indoors. Oh well, here's to hoping it's there when the server is back up.

>>7682098
I can give you a crossroad to outside but one the final wall is up not many except a few VIP will be getting in

Speaking of metal trading, I'm playing solo and trading for metal would be nice. I have plenty of seeds (although mostly low-quality) of various kinds, and I have way more straw and fibres than I can use right now. A nugget for a keyring would be nice (have to discover it, though - you can let people discover stuff by having them buy it from a barter stand). I'd also love to get 5 metal bars so I can build a stone mansion, but you're probably not trading that for cheap.

I really want a single player offline client. I absolutely love the world and game mechanics but the pinko thieving scum and server downtime really makes it hard to enjoy such things.

>>7682100
Hey, guess what? The server crashes more often than this. It crashes every now and then. If I go yell 'I'm going to make it rain' in autumn that doesn't mean I'm the cause of the rain that falls the next day.

>>7682107
we need cloth if you can make it...
and steel for the gate but we have tin/copper/bronze/iron and such...

Also where is this /jp/ village?

Heard there was an onion farm between it

>>7682109
Hey, just go live in the middle of nowhere and claim your shit, I only meet people when I go explore and nobody's stolen anything from me yet (okay, except that raft I stole since I left it at the river, but that one was just asking to be stolen). Got a palisade up now too. The server isn't down too often.

I live on my own and I've got a palisade up with a timber house.

I'm working on getting a kiln up as well.

>>7682116
Linen cloth? That's easy enough, how much do you offer for it? The kind of metal doesn't matter, anything that works for a keyring or a mansion will do. A pickaxe would also be nice. It'll be low-quality cloth, though.
If you're talking about silk, I don't have any yet.

Do you have a barter stand yet?

>>7682102
perfectly fine, if anything we'd mainly need them for defense/trade routes - I never used them before so I'm off to research (since it appears that the server is down)..

Does anybody here go in the Haven & Hearth IRC channel or even use IRC at all?

>>7681738
holy shit I love optimization!

>>7682125
we need about 500 linen cloth for a quick guess on the low side, so lets say 1000 and were safe...

we can build barter stands.. for some reason people build them inside the walls so we will rebuild them by the crossroads.

We can give you tools and equpment, just name what you need and can give

I'll be on in a few hours and mine some more ores for people to discover if they so wish, Iron and copper ought to be easy for me to get but tin will be a bit harder.

Still thinking about joining you guys. But considering the drama you already went through there compared to my almost boring hermit life (aside from that village just north of me. Someone from there killed me on my very first day...), I'm not so sure if I want to...

Would I get any benefit from leaving my small estate and join the hive? Do you guys have a minehole or cave or something?

>>7682141
You realize that 500 linen cloth requires 2500 plant fibres, right? There's no way I have THAT much, and even if I did, I wouldn't have any place to store it. How much linen cloth do you want for a nugget? How about a pickaxe?

>>7682152
Aokigahara has a cave. Hinamizawa has no metal.

>>7682132
I'm in the IRC channel, what about it?

>>7682157
its 25 cloth per flag.. we need about 25 or more flags
we have 5 or 6 so far...

>>7682152
what are your skills?

>>7682161
just curious to see how many Hinamizawanese and Aokigaharians use it

>>7682174
Uh, basically everything that could be of use to me right now + a few things I don't have a use for yet, like Metalworking. It'd be easier to list what I don't have.

>>7682201
But I don't live in Hinamizawa or Aokigahara.

>>7682237
I like the cut of your gib. Once I'm done stealing from Hinamizawa I will take that path.

>>7682243
>Once I'm done stealing from Hinamizawa
Don't make me log in on the character that used to live in Hinamizawa and Murder you. I have the LP.

>>7682225
See this >>7682243 is why you don't want to associate yourself with the /jp/ villages, they get fucked over all the time. You should continue living out your days as a lonely hermit instead, at least then you won't become victimized by association.

Oh god guys I was only joking.

>The server is currently shut down

>The server was shut down at Sat Jul 30 23:10:35 2011 (UTC)

Good news, everyone!

Server is back up.

the only thing to fear is a lack of patience.

>>7682402
In addition to griefers/assholes.

Some people play to ruin other peoples' experience.

>>7682466
well there's a way to play around those, there's a way to counter everything. My suggestion is setup multiple claims like security levels and give out permissions accordingly, back it up with palisades&bricks if you have to. I'd also recommend setting up a stash spot - someplace small but ultra secure far away from the city. It's advisable for the chieftain to set one up and let other people know OF it but not let anybody know where it is at all and if you're worried about the chieftain grieving you then you're probably the person other people should be afraid of. I see this all the time, the most paranoid person is the person who is to be the least trusted: share and share alike -- fucking simple.

>>7682492
as chief i agree with you mostly but the chief is only 2nd in command so you know...

i plan to set up a small stash of backup items for just incase type things...
fill it with a set of basic tools and some curos/food/seeds and then lock it up with an alt inside with the key all in a claim quite big so most dont even bother looking for it..

>>7682510
>but the chief is only 2nd in command so you know
ok, I do know. Who's the first? Lawspeaker with authority?

>>7682547
yes.
LS is village owner
Chief is 2nd and appointed(needs 25cha)
Hirdsman are all appointed and are like the royal guard or so...
which we havnt done yet, but i have some names of who i would appoint

>>7682547
Lawspeaker is more or less top rank, the person who founded the village, that'd be me. Freya I wouldn't call second in command so much as co-command, really is the one who plans more than me, I just advise and answer questions.

Also, what sorts of metal tools/stocks would Hinamizawa need? I heard pickaxes so I'll see about making one or 2 of those, any other sorts of things? Iron is easiest for me to obtain, I'll even make wrought iron but in a very limited fashion.

People also mention wishing to discover metals?

>>7682572
lol.. its so true

>>7682563 was also meant to be tripped

>>7682581
Ah, the one asking for the pickaxe was me. I'm a hermit, not a Hinamizawa resident.

>>7682596
You'll have to find your way to us, not to mention if I make one, I can't really say the quality will be over 15 or so, getting higher requires going to lower levels and we don't have confirmed iron further down.

>106 from United States, 22 from Korea, 21 from Canada, 14 from United Kingdom, and 12 from Spain.
>0 from a certain country

Alright time to come out of hiding.

>>7682607
Yes, I know how to get to you. What do you ask for a nugget (or directly a keyring) and a pickaxe?

>>7682678
I'll make a pickaxe and a bar for you (10 nuggets)

As for return, crap I don't know, I've mined so much that it passes by without effort.

Much up to you, I personally can't think of anything, maybe you or someone else can.

also; do you wish to discover iron? or have you already?

>>7682684
I haven't discovered metal yet. Also, I can't convert bars to nuggets, so a nugget would be better. According to >>7682174 you need linen cloth? I can bring some.

>>7682707
hohoho, we need a ton of it, more than you'd care to bring and way more than a fair trade for a pickaxe and bar of metal.

When you get here, I'll make sure you discover iron, and see if i cant get copper tin and bronze for you to discover.

>>7682707
also forgot to mention you need metalworking learned if you haven't yet.

That and when do you plan on getting here?

>>7682735
Going to take a while, I live quite far away. Anyways, you need a LOT of cloth, which I can't provide, but you're not interested in at least some cloth?

>>7682742
Some is better than none, that or some leather that I can use for my own stuff

Actually, ash and wool? I want someone to make me a necro cloak perhaps.

Oh...I have a q18 Bronze Sword. Maybe you'd be interested in that?

>>7682750
I can probably make better shortly myself. Just linen if you can't do ash/yarn. In what ever quantity you feel is fair.

>>7682750
You can also add me to kin by my hearth secret "TesuTo56". If you wish to discuss much further, I don't check this thread too often

I'd offer my services but I'm afraid the only profitable skill I have is farming onions and hemp.

>>7682867
peopel do know that clay does regen ay?? so we can go back to an old claim once we have none.. i keep getting clay from the island beween IC and ours..

Stupid question, how do I remove cobble stone tiles from the floor?

>>7682901
Have you tried Landscaping -> Stomp to Dirt? (Requires Farming)

>>7682919
Tried it, it doesn't work on cobble stone ground, only on grassy ground.

>>7682867
Learn cloth making and you can make linen out of hemp fibers. We just need it for banners, so quality is irrelevant.

I need some pickaxe and some high level chefs hat too please.

>>7682901
Plant any seed on it. Choose Landscaping ->plant grass

>>7682581
I'd rather discover metal than be gifted anymore so I can craft some important things

thinking about getting 15 explore and throwing the rest in marksmanship, pigging out on carrots, depending on village members for making shit from shit I hunt

Mugen would be proud.

Not enough storage space...

>>7685225
Learn to cook

>>7686158
I'm already cooking, but I also farm, and I end up with more onions than I can use for cooking (only onion recipe I make is the chantrelles thing).

>>7686380
Then stop planting so many?

I have set a claim just inside the cave since I don't want any bothers with the steel making, as someone accidentally reset a bar.

Everyone has trespassing meaning that they can walk through it without any problems, but all things within that blue square cannot have things taken from them without theft. If anyone takes from them, we will know who they are.

I'll probably keep this system, adding more privileges when I don't have the steel to worry about, this way we don't have outsiders bothering us until we have a wall in the cave.

>>7686802
At least move the anvil and crucible out.

Server crashed once again

>>7687329
It's back up.

I never wanted to become a miner but I guess I have to now since building a meat grinder requires cave clay.

Wake up.

Log in.

Get killed by lag.

FUCK

Aah...this sucks. Because I recently died, I don't have Yeomanry, so I can't build cupboards, so I don't have any room for more stuff, so trying to get new stuff is useless now.

All I wanted was to befriend with you guys, but I got killed and nobody wanted to be my friend. I'd have done anything for you. Maybe in another life...

How are you guys dying

>>7688843
Logged in near my home, boar was very close. I try to walk away, lag happens, and I suddenly get raped by boar. Knocked down in one hit, boar proceeds to kill me. At least I managed to open my gate before I died, otherwise my new character would spawn inside without a key to get out.

We had to steal a cow and had a really long journey back to Hinamizawa

>>7689281
Is it ironic that autism is the least autistic one of the group?

Mine holes GET!

Hmm...

>>7689531
>Two mine holes next to eachother

What the fuck you you guys doing?

>>7690293
Hey, I didn't build them. They were in an abandoned town, so I just built a palisade around them so they're mine. Also did the thread hit autosage?

>>7690350
296 replies, 61 sages

>>7690579
You're not really making a point good sir..

But it is about due for a new thread. been busy with study this week so havnt logged on much but i do still play! Maybe more-so if they didnt leave me a 5 hour gap in the middle of the day
Today i have a 8-10 class and then a 3-5 class...

>>7691826
The irony would be if the person who made that is the one who sealed the corner post.

Ares needs to get back over here to help us knock a post down to remak and make a gate.

>>7691982
So...as far as I can tell, we need 4 people with 169+ strength to break it ;_;
Maybe we should just make another set of cornerposts in front of this one and build a gate between them?

>>7692079
That seems to be the tacitly agreed upon solution thus far, though breaking a post would be far cheaper.

I'm still making the last of the steel required to make the gate, then we can work on it, it will require 675 bricks, 20 wrought iron, and 5 steel to finally complete the wall, hopefully we can do this. I'll start mining to get the wrought iron made some time later today.

Hinamizawa is now an official village

>>7692149
You mean it wasn't yet?

Anyways, if somebody has 26 or more agility, you could build a crossroads outside your palisade and link it to Aokigahara's outer crossroads for teleportation between the two villages.

Thread is on autosage. What should be in the next OP post? Are both Aokigahara and Hinamizawa still open, and are their hearth secrets still 'TesuTo56' and 'Lemuria' respectively? Is Aokigahara's forum still in use?

>>7692320
Hinamizawa's is "Secobi" now

New thread >>7692745