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Never played it myself but I hear UFO is actually harder on hard. Like, I hear SA is harder on normal than UFO, but UFO's Lunatic is much harder than SA's Lunatic.

Apparently SA has less changes from difficulty to difficulty in comparison to UFO. I wouldn't know though because I can't even beat either on Normal.

>>7508070
SA was the first hard mode I cleared, years ago when I was much worse. There are only a few real sticky parts. Most of it can be beaten the same way you beat normal, just with less tolerance.

Yes, it is ridiculously hard on Hard. I am in the same position.

>>7508082
Er, missing info from that post: I recently beat UFO hard only after lots and lots of failure. Much more work than SA took me back then.

you weren't there when the thread about the guy who cleared SA Lunatic and then it took him over 702 tries to clear UFO was up?

UFO is the hardest one yet. You just have to keep trying.

>>7508037

I've been trying to beat UFO on hard for a few months now. I can do a perfect Stage 1 and Stage 2 most of the time but usually get my ass kicked on stage 3. It would be my first hard 1cc if I beat it.

For the spell card in your pic. Go to one side, then the middle, then the other side, and back to the middle. It's a pretty tough card, never the less. Also, for the first strike, you can put your character on Ichirin's knees and go straight nows. The fists will have a narrow gap that will allow you to do more damage. Just don't go higher than the edge of her skirts. Idk if this works with Reimu, though.

>>7508037

I've been trying to beat UFO on hard for a few months now. I can do a perfect Stage 1 and Stage 2 most of the time but usually get my ass kicked on stage 3. It would be my first hard 1cc if I beat it.

For the spell card in your pic. Go to one side, then the middle, then the other side, and back to the middle. It's a pretty tough card, never the less. Also, for the first strike, you can put your character on Ichirin's knees and go straight down. The fists will have a narrow gap that will allow you to do more damage. Just don't go higher than the edge of her skirts. Idk if this works with Reimu, though.

Since I beat UFO Hard, I was going to do it with all characters to finish it up. But now I'm thinking, do I really want to risk an aneurysm just to have a MarisaA 1CC on record?

>>7508113

What is so hard about MarisaA? She's my favorite shot-type. I always use her first.

>>7508113
Eh... Marisa B?

>>7508118
Whenever I bomb my blood pressure goes up 100pts

>>7508120
MarisaB is fine. It just has much less tolerance for bomb spamming. MarisaA practically eliminates bombs as a UFO tool which blows all sorts of opportunities.

>>7508122

I love her bomb in the extra stage. You have to time it properly to account for ufo's in the regular game. Still, her bomb does the most damage of them all. You can skip practically every spellcard with it. Also, her infinite penetration is great for ufo's. I hate the feeling of having a perfect ufo but not being able to hit it in time.

>>7508093

OP here.
Yes I was and it somehow amazes me.
I consider 30-50 attempts to 1cc something incredibly long.
How that guy could try that 700 times is above my head..

>>7508138

I've done over 100 runs with MarisaA. Probably over 200 with all the shot-types combined. I can post a pic if you want.

My post:>>7508110

>>7508149
Wow. You guys are good. It took me 394 tries to 1cc UFO Normal with just SanaeB.

>>7508131
Well I guess. I end up in too many situations where oops I can't get that UFO piece after all, and a bomb solves that and lets me keep my planned sequence going. If you're good enough it probably doesn't matter.

>>7508193

I've got about 200 tries behind my belt, 99 with Sanae A and I'm almost done with UFO. I'm hoping it'll just be 10 more tries at the most, but I can never tell.

>>7508138
Hm I don't do many full runs. Most of my time was stage 3 and 5 practice mode. Looks like..

122 tries on Ichirin's midboss spellcard
189 tries on Nazrin's stage 5 spellcard

welp

>>7508193

It took me... 10. It was my third normal 1cc, second in ufo.

5 AM here so I'll quit for today

At least I got to Stage 4 now, but the analrape I receive from Kogasa is kinda worrying me

May as well ask, what's the huge difference from UFO Normal to Hard? Apparently everything sounds like a huge difficulty jump, I'm not sure I could handle it considering I find UFO to be the second hardest game on Normal already.

If it wasn't for having to deal with the UFO pieces... UFO would be so easy.

>>7508456
How do you mean what's the difference?
There's no really significant change, it's just that everything is much denser and sometimes faster. Especially Byakuren, she turns on the rape mode on Hard compared to Normal. But if you can even get to her, that's an accomplishment in itself.

I can't even 1 CC UFO Normal.


Shou SHUTS ME DOWN. Like literally, I can do no death all spell cards captured...

And then curved lasers.

>>7508456
Collecting the UFO pieces multiplies the difficulty, makes the curve sharper. If you can't easily collect what you need, you'll get shit on. If you can, then it's much easier. Other than the many many resources (behind the UFO barrier), there are no breaks like an easy stage 5 boss, infinite bombs, spell practice, easy stages, etc.

>>7508549
And I guess when you combine all that there are non-relative difficulty increases as you go to hard -> lunatic.

My UFO strategy now consists of trying to beat the game on only the starting resources.

>>7508477
Protip: you have enough bombs to not deal with shou at all if you're perfect before her.

>>7508456
the stages.
The stages are much more brutal and fast-paced than any other lunatic stage in windows touhou. Stage 4 and 5 especially. You being supposed to grab all those UFOs makes things infinitely worse. AND the return of the classic bomb system means that you can't spam bombs during difficult parts, net in power points, rinse and repeat. No, you have to be a fucking jew with your bombs because...

the boss fights.
I really don't know what the fuck happened, but ZUN made the UFO bosses truly ridiculous, Hina in MoF Lunatic or Parsee in SA Lunatic ain't got shit on Kogasa.... Hard.

>hurp durp it's flashy ufo I must run to it

>>7509585
Yes. I try not to, but every time they get close I lose control.
Right now, I've got little paper UFOs suspended in my room, with electrodes attached so that they shock me when I grab them.

>>7508473
Why you have so many pictures of Star Sword Apologetics

>>7509589

You have inspired me. Maybe I should try something like this.

>>7509589

That sounds scary. If it works for you though. I can almost taste that Normal UFO 1cc. But almost isn't good enough. I hope I don't need shock therapy for the 1cc.

>>7509596
I really like swords.

>>7509603
>>7509607
I think he's joking... I hope he's joking?

I may want to try UFO again soon. But I can't deal with the pressure if getting all those UFOs perfectly right now. I remember my last run was ruined because I missed a few good UFOs.

Started playing StB today. got stuck at 2-5.
Is this known to be a hard scene, or do I simply suck at this?

>>7511519

It shouldn't be that hard. You just need more experience. I'm currently stuck on Level 6 cards. Sure I don't need a lot of shots, but getting those shots is pretty tough.

I know I'm going off-topic again but I really can't resist posting this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-3LHTTfvAc
DoDonPachi Resurrection 2-ALL. Normal difficulty 'cause I'm not really that good.


I'm sorry for the Cave shmup post. Now back to your regularly scheduled Touhous.

>>7511519
It's not terribly difficult. Just move purposefully, don't wiggle around.

>>7511532
Yeah you were right, just cleared it. It got infinitely easier once I realized I could stream the bullets while focus charging.

>>7511635
keep going then. Stage 8 is so good

>>7511696

Level 6 guy here, if that's level 8 I'm not sure I want to go any further.

>>7511702
Go further, that level 8 scene is slow and easy.

>>7511724

What may be slow and easy to you seems like hell to me. Level 7 seems bad enough on its own.

It's discussions like this that make me feel ashamed for being a Touhou Novice.

I just can't seem to beat any stage 6 on normal.

Oh great, now I'm stuck on 3-1
Damnit Alice.

>>7511724
but it's also pretty and fun.

>>7511774
It just takes lots and lots of practice.

Just be glad they don't look like this.

>>7511790
You're not telling me this is possible, are you? I can't even... what the fuck....

But yeah, my biggest problem is that I get bored of shot types often, and play them all nearly equally (Reimu B is olev, though).

I managed to get farther anyways and I have to say, now I know another reason why Sakuya is the perfect maid. 7-7 is just silly. I'm sure gonna love the later cards.

>>7511804
To be honest I have no idea what the context behind that is, I found it on pixiv like 5 minutes ago. There might be some gimmick like invunerability or a third dimension or something like that, or like in this one where there's a reflector shield.

Hmm, even if you move around in shot types, it shouldn't be all that bad for your practice. Most of the game is in the enemy shots, not yours, though you certainly do have to take yours into account in how you dodge theirs.

>>7511790
>>7511814

That's how post-touhou STGs look. There are exceptions to the rule but they're rare.

They're made to resemble touhou but just spam like crazy rather than assembling a tricky and distinct visual appearance.

>>7511831
In its defense, RefleX is more like Samidare + Kamui than Touhou.
Both of which are great, great games.

>>7511831
In its defense, RefleX is more like Samidare + Kamui than Touhou.
Both of which are great, great games. They just have different philosophies when it comes to avoiding bullets.

Counter with an offense-defense hybrid resource, instead of dodge.

>>7511814
I mean, a lot of the time the stage 5 boss patterns vary depending on the character and type. Ie. the Poltergeists, or Patchouli. And it doesn't help when I go from a character that can completely rape the whole screen of small fries at once to something like Laser Marisa who actually has to work to dodge some interlude patterns~

>>7511850
You mean stage 4, right?

>>7511868
Forgive my foolishness, yes I do.

OP here

Glad to see the thread is still alive so I can show my amazing progress

I'm going to look at replays now, I seem to be doing something wrong against Ichirin..

>>7512180
>he has bombs left
laughingSanaeB.gif

>>7512204

I wasted 6 precious SanaeB bombs on Murasa because the speed of some bullets completely surprised me.

This is actually my biggest problem right now, the bullets seem awfully fast

I'm getting there

>>7512576
The hard version of that one is relatively worse than the lunatic version. Such a pain, almost always bomb it.