/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Control the flow of the game.

The sand in the depths of hell is magical sand.

And how do you figure out when to "pon" or "chii"? Should you always pon or chii when the opportunity presents itself?

Try not to pon or chii unless your hand is in a GODLIKE POTENTIAL status, like full color or honors hand. The general rule of thumb is not to pon or chii unless it gives you a double DIRECTLY, such as wind or honor tiles. Riichi is worth one double anyway, and ura-dora doesn't always get you something.

>>7394500
Why try not to pon or chii?

>>7394500
Open tanyao or bust.

It's all about probability. Discard tiles you think won't likely bring you to victory. Pros I hear don't even try to win in most games, only do when they have a very good hand in the beginning. In other matches they just sit and throw away tiles that are not likely to get them ronned.

>>7394481
You have to choose what tiles you want to discard. This allows you to choose what hand you're going for, and you need to take into account the risks and advantages of your choice - how many of the tiles you need are still in the wall? Is anybody hoarding tiles you need? Does it mean you'll have to discard tiles that can get you Ronned? Do you have a reasonable chance of getting your hand, or should you switch to a simpler hand? Should you pon/chi/kan? Is the hand you're trying for worth it?

Although the tiles are distributed randomly, there are a lot of choices you have to make. Each choice adds more strategy, which requires skill to understand.

According to Mahjong manga as long as you are a "pro" every game you start will be within 1-3 tiles away from a god tier hand.

How true is this in professional tournaments?

Read the rules?

Whenever I go out and have a doubles I scream "CHECK'EM!" (if its ron, i point my finder to the person i ronned with my arm across my chest).
Always pisses off everybody I play with.

>>7394546
Not exactly, take this game for instance, aki pro's opening hand barely has the seeds of a kokushi musou.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zI_AwOZgVY&feature=related

>>7394577
People still play with you?

>>7394606
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zI_AwOZgVY&feature=related
kokushi musou?
moar like koihime musou amirite?

>>7394625
Yea, they're all keep coming back because they just really hate to lose to me.
I just keep playing to see their frustrated faces on the lucky occasions I win.
also:CHECK MY NOT DOUBLES

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mahjong

Even pros don't win every round, since the game is so heavily based upon luck.
The aim of the game is to aim for the best hand you think you can get before someone else finishes their hand, and win the rounds that you do with the most points possible.

Why is it that sometimes when i want to ron, i get a error saying "No multiplier"?

E.G. I have the following :

-1 2 3
-a pair of 2 circles
-kan, 4 west
-pon, 3 of 6 bamboo
-3, 4 circle and i want to ron with a 5 circle

Yet the game won't let me?

I click Tsumo and it tells me "No multiplier".

>>7397601
>>7397625

>>7397639
It just says i need 4 of a set with 1 pair.

>>7397657
In other words, "WHATS A YAKU"

>>7397601
>>7397625

Your hand doesn't have any properties that multiply your score values. Try keeping your hand closed or for open, one suit, no sequences, or no terminals

>>7397663
What does that mean in english?

Go watch Akagi, OP.

>>7397897
It means your hand is so shitty that it's worth zero points, so you can't call a win

>>7397897
If you don't know shit, stop asking stupid questions and learn the rules. Nobody's going to spoonfeed you the entire rule set.

>implying that shannon and yaku are the same person

>>7397993
So am i supposed to memorize every possible combination to call a win?

>>7398114
No.
You can win 99% of your games with just Tanyao, Pinfu and Riichi.
Learn it.

>>7398114

Learning the yaku takes maybe a day. If you don't know them all, just don't call on tiles. What you're basically asking is "do I need to know the rules of the game to play?" Surprisingly, yes.

>>7398114
Yes, just like poker, bridge, and pokemon. Maybe you should stick to this instead.

>>7398190
Riichi (1 fan)

When your hand is ready and fully concealed, you can call "Riichi".

Whats the point of riichi? Ive called it before but all i get is one stick infront of me. How do i go from riichi to ron other than waiting?

>>7398229
The combinations in poker follow very basic rules(sequential, same suit, etc).

The combinations in mahjong to call ron are basically someone in ancient times saying "lol this combination is teh winnar".

Whats the point of pon and chii anyway?

>>7398696
Using riichi the right way further allows you to control the flow of the game. It can potentially give you a psychological advantage, but you have to weigh it against the point deposit needed to declare riichi and the restrictive nature of being under its effect.

>>7398696
Riichi - 1
Tanyao - 1
Pinfu - 1
Tsumo - 1 / Ron - 0
Dora - X (depending on dora indicator and red5)
Without riichii you have zero chance of getting a mangan unless you have 2doras in your hand at the moment. With riichii you can easily bump extra 2han with an uradora.

There is no surefire rule in declaring riichii and not declaring riichii. This really depend on feel. If you are playing in high level room, declaring riichii usually mean not having any chance of having ron and depending 100% on tsumo and a high chance of playing into someone else hand. But on the other hand it has a chance to turn a shit hand into a monster hand with luck and making the other 3faggots turtle like hell especially if you can declare an early riichii.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zI_AwOZgVY&feature=related

Why are mahjong commentators so boring? They should at least try to sound excited over a yakuman.

>>7399195
To make a quick hook when you want to keep your lead.

Also, you can't call someone's tile if it's the same as the one you discarded on your previous turn. That's furiten.

>>7397625
What program is this? I want to learn to play but I won't be able to get real people to play with me IRL nor can I play onlie when I almost don't know anything. Is there a mahjong program with AI opponents I can use to practisce with?

>>7399264
You can play vs CPU on tenhou.net

>>7399264
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html

Superior to tenhou.net

I keep getting yaku pai by mistake. Whats the combination needed to achieve it?

>>7399345
Calling for shitty pon round/seat wind and chun/haku/hatsu.

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