/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Every untranslated eroge can be called unappreciated in the west.

Bound to be badly received because a lot of games that borrow heavily on this have been translated first, so the average user will think it's a rehashed plot.
Same thing will happen with Umineko and Forest, hear my words.

It looks pretty good from the tags and description. Also Liar-soft.

I would like to read it.

>>7180086
Let's suppose it is translated. You just need to point out the year this VN was made to shut them up.

>>7180086
Yeah, you're right. This an Forest are my top 2 games I'd like to see a translation of, but the chances of it being called a rehash is pretty high. I still hope people will notice that these works were the original inspiration for so many other games.
The story of Kusarihime, imo, stands fairly well on it's own and I'd go so far as to claim that it did age pretty well with time.

>>7180109
>You just need to point out the year this VN was made to shut them up.
Are you that naive? Pointing that out will just pass you off as elitist and hipster that likes shit "before it was cool", since most games that came after are also more polished.
No one cares about what came first besides those who already played them in order, and knows which game is a rehash of which. The average user will read them and think "oh well, this is pretty much like ___, but I read ___ first so it's not as effective as the first time I read about this story".

>>7180008
>Group Sex of One Female and Several Males
>Relationship Problems

Keep your NTR shit to yourself.
Most people here don't want their imouto heroine to be gangbanged, sorry.

>>7180144
Well, to be fair, theonly ting that's similar ae some of the themes and the basic premise. The execution is different and so are the solutions to all f the mysteries. I still think that it's a game whos stoy would work even today.

>>7180144
>The average user will read them and think "oh well, this is pretty much like ___, but I read ___ first so it's not as effective as the first time I read about this story".
If only. Only a few of them will think like that, like you already said they will simply say it's boring. But then again, retards will always exist.

Still, while I understand the feelings of those who already read it, I would like to see it translated since I can't read Japanese and things get worse if it's a Liar-soft title.

>>7180158
Those tags are on the "spoil me!" tab for a reason you know?

>>7180169

I need to warn the people who don't want to read any Netorare-little-sister-gangbang.

No seriously. Such tags don't belong to spoilers, but to genre.
This way we can avoid shitty games and use our time for better stuff.

>>7180206
Dude, it' nt a nukige. It's mostly story-driven!

>>7180206
Those tags are an important factor to the fucking story. That is not a nukige, anon.

>>7180206
Dude, it's not a nukige! It's a heavily story-driven game. Trust me on the fact that it maks perfect sense in the context of the story.

>>7180217
>>7180221
It's still NTR shit nobody sane wants. Stop trying to pass your fetish shit as "must read for everyone".

>>7180237
Can you kindly get the fuck out now?

>>7180237
unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.

Btw, for those who are interested - the writer is Hoshizora Meteor. He's famous on the VN scene in Japan, but sadly not too many people know him in the west.

>>7180237
Stop being so fucking stupid. I don't like NRT but I like things that make the story good, even without reading it I can tell that those tags represent something that needs to happen in order to work with the reader's feelings. If you only like happy-happy-pink stories then please be at least considerate to not spoil for those who don't.

>>7180248
>>7180250
>I justify retarded shit because it's DEEP and REAL DEAL.
I take you EPIC RAGED at that point in story, right? So good.

Choux said it pretty well:
After Kusarihime -euthanasia- was created, its writer, Hoshizora Meteor, wanted to create a fanbook. In doing so, some other writers were dragged into the project. They were Urobuchi Gen, Romeo, and Kinoko Nasu. All three writers were inspired by this story.Taking the concept of two people whose love can only be confirmed through each other and insanity, Urobuchi went and made Saya no Uta. Taking the concept of time loops, insanity, twisted personal relationships, and not giving the readers answers, Romeo went and made Cross Channel. Taking the concept of love, family bonds, and insanity, Konoko Nasu went and madethe Heaven’s feel path in Fate/stay night. There are many parallels between this and Higurashi too, such as the time loops and how the seemingly traditional mythological power turns out to be related to science fiction instead.

>>7180257
>>7180257
So this is the game that inspired CC, Saya and FSN?

>>7180255
No anon, I'm not part of that kind of retarded people group. I'm not stupid enough to "RAGE HARD FFFFFFFFF". I'm sorry that you are not capable of thinking and behaving like a rational being and appreciating the whole plot and story.

>>7180250

Of course it's part of the "story", but NTR is fucking NTR. Nothing changes that it's a genre.

People should know beforehand if such a thing is included or not.

>>7180259
Don't fall for something so obvious.

>>7180257
This guy should play Hateshinaku Aoi, Pandora no Yume or Shoin
Kusari-hime didn't start this kind of story.

>>7180262
Not if it's something important to the plot for fuck sake. It's hidden for a reason.

Your logic is like saying a heroine dies to warn people who dislike utsuge when it's the most critical point of the plot. Jesus christ.

>>7180259
Exactly, it's one of those "must read" titles out there. Sadly, even untill this day, not a single translation project was started. Forest, a game by the same author which also gained a lot of attention in Japan has it even worse here. Most people don't even know about them here.

>>7180271
There are a lot of far more obscure titles
At least both titles were reviewed in english

>>7180268
I didn't start it, it just made it popular.

>>7180271
Considering how shit Umineko is.
I am not really that interested in a game that inspired it.
Also liar soft. Bad experience with ignanock.
So no thanks.

Kusarihime sound interesting though.

>>7180282
It was already popular before.

>>7180268
I liked Pandora no Yume.

>>7180270

Utsuge isn't spoilered. You always know anyway what kind of story you are gonna read.

NTR belongs tagged period.
Especially when it's a imouto heroine,

i'd totally translate it if i knew japanese.

>>7180289
The character in question is already dead by the start of the sory. How can she be a heroine? Also, that scene was never shown, the author tried jut to heavily imply it.
Happy now?

>>7180289
....

I give up on trying to argue with you. You are clearly just someone who likes imouto routes and hate NRT.

>>7180304
Quite possible.

>>7180283
Kusarihime is from liar-soft too.

>>7180299
Stop making up shit.

>>7180304
Yes, I hate NTR with passion,
But what I hate more is insufficient information about a game.
The spoilered hcg is related.

NTR shit belongs tagged. That's the only point I was trying to make.
People who like it can play that crap, but leave others out of it and tell them about the content beforehand.

I'm not quite good enough at moonspeak to translate it myself yet, and I'm not sure I like the English-only parts of the VN-playing community enough to do them a favor.

>>7180158
It's funny how the guy in this thread whining about NTR says things like "Keep your NTR shit to yourself." or even "Stop trying to pass your fetish shit as "must read for everyone"" while he himself is trying to force his tastes on everyone in a thread that is dedicated to game that has elements he so much "hates". Get the fuck out you child.

>>7180332
That happens like, in the first hour of the game, it's not really a spoiler.

>>7180332
Making a big deal out of something so small. I still think you are wrong, important story elements shouldn't be spoiled no matter how you look at it.

I really hope mr NTR guy here is just trying to troll. It's really sad if he isn't.

Does anyone know why there is s much crossover art with Saya no Uta going around?

moral guardian in my /jp/?

>>7180362

Don't worry, you will get your little sister rape NTR and gangbang.

There is already a review out if you want to spoiler yourself.

>>7180332
That scene is not actually NTR. NTR implies far more than just "heroine having sex with others!"

>>7180370
Do you wnat to be spoilered so much?

>>7180370
Because http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2k48hda-Q

Kurame and Saya share quite a few similarities.

"NRT is cancer!!"
This is pathetic. I fucking hate NRT but don't mind having it as long as the plot is good and the NRT part makes it better by making me feel sour inside.

There is a difference between plain meaningless NRT and NRT with a purpose.

>>7180387
Yes, I a really curious. Please tell

>>7180393
It's spelled NTR.

>>7180380

It's fucking NTR for people who don't want that shit. Also, imouto rape.

>>7180393
Yes, NTR is cancer and only for the fags who like it.

It should always be pointed out.

>>7180397
Do you know about Saya's secret?

>>7180409
You are ridiculous, like some child saying bad things are bad.

What I really liked about Kusari-hime is that it has this awesome paperdoll art system where they get integrated into the background. I am so fucking disappointed that so few other VNs bother to do anything more than just slap characters into the foreground and call it a day.

>>7180379

It's just really fuckin' pathetic how you can't take this scene as a simple storytelling device.

>>7180409
It's neither NTR or rape.

>>7180407
I do, but what about Kurame?

>>7180008

is that the chick that is always with Saya in fanart??

>>7180425
You really are dense, aren't you?

>>7180417
>I like NTR because it makes the story DEEP

netorare is netorare, imouto rape is imouto rape, shitty game is shitty game

>>7180438
My god you are seriously stupid.

>>7180426
Yes.

>>7180436
Please tell me it's not true! Man...I'm not actually sure if that's a good or bad thing...

Pretty sure the retard in this thread complaining about NTR can't even read kusarihime.

>>7180470
Was there any doubt?

>>7180467
Congrats.

Read this http://vndb.org/t291
If you don't like that kind of stuff don't play it.

This sounds more and more interesting. as there really never been any interest in translating it? What were they thinking?

>>7180470
Sure he can.

Trying to damage control for your shitty NTR game now?

>>7180487
Translate shit that can appeal to a wider audience for e-penis.
Was there any doubt?

>>7180489
Please be a troll.

>>7180489
Pretty sure you can't. Go back to reading your shitty waifu games with atlas.

>>7180487

Can't you read? Because nobody would want to play it.

>>7180506
And why exactly?

>>7180487
I heard vague bullshit about it being hard to hack or something.

>>7180501
>I like mature and DEEP VNs for mature and DEEP people like me
>NTR makes a game DEEP and thus is for mature people like myself, too.

>>7180415

>>7180517
Your whole basis is that Kusairihime is a NTR game.
It's not and there is no NTR, why are you so stupid/troll?

>>7180529
>It's not and there is no NTR, why are you so stupid?
Fixed. Branding retards as "trolls" exempts them from being stupid fucks that they are.

Man, I would sell my soul for a translation.

Kurame with her BFF Saya

>>7180552
>sell my soul
I'm sure Kurame could oblige.

>>7180529

Someone else dick on your heroine is NTR.
No matter what the actual protag and heroine feels.

>>7180573
Not a heroine
She forces the guys to do it.

>>7180566
Lets from a queue, then. I'll be second in line after >>7180552

>>7180579
She is a heroine.

>>7180592
Not at THAT point.

>>7180597
Stop bs'ing around.
It's plain NTR.

http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/09/01/eroge-that-everybody-should-have-played/

It seems like Kusarihime was mentioned in 2chan's list of eroge everyone sould have played.
Sounds like it's worth giving it a try.

Is there any chance Amaterasu Translations will pick it up? They did work on CrossChannel and Inganock after all

>>7180621
2chan fucking loves Kurame, so yeah

>>7180626
I think people will flame them, Ixrec has shown interest in doing it, but he's aloready doing Sharnoth and Forest from the same company.
he could just drop Sharnoth though, he's not going to translate it well.

>>7180621
>eroge everyone sould have played.
>Gore Screaming Show
Sorry, can't take that list seriously anymore.

>>7180621
That list has some pretty crappy titles in there.
It's probably the same kind of must-see list fags on /jp/ post.

>>7180626
Ixrec said he would eventually translate all the VNs he rated 8 or above. Kusarihime got 8.5.

Waiting warmly.

>>7180621
>maeda
>ONE and AIR
>ONE
>not clannad
What the fuck? Just drop AIR for Tomoyo After and perfectly horrible

>>7180632
So, did you play it then?

>>7180660
I believe the list came out before Clannad

>>7180670
It has sharin and gunjou, which is what left me wondering why someone would choose ONE over clannad.

ITT: English Eroge Expert (has played over 20 translated eroge)

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/blog/?p=723

>>7180661
Yes, because of the hype it had here. Disappointing and I don't see how it should be a "milestone" everybody should have played.
>>7180678
maybe because it's not eroge? I didn't play everything on that list so I don't know if they all have ero though.

>>7180678
Oh, yeah, you're actually right. I also have no idea why theywould choose One and Air over Clannad.

>>7180684
>maybe because it's not eroge?
Ah, right, didn't read it was just eroge exclusive
That also explains the lack of ever17 and the like, thanks.

>>7180684
Sorry, my fault, I wastalking about Kisarihime. Gore Screaming Show was kinda plain, I agree with you on that.

>>7180682
Seriously, why don't more games try to do something interesting with the sprites?

>>7180704
Maybe it's expensive or something.
The only game that did something like this I've played apart from this is ef, but because it had fucking high production values.

>>7180682
I read Ixrec reviews for the tvtropes links.

>>7180713
Cross Channel did it too. Coincidence?

>>7180721
>cross channel did it too
No, it didn't, it used a normal sprite+background system with CGs.

>>7180716
I read it for the word metaphysics

>>7180724
It did on a few ocasions. I currently don't have it installed so I can't screenshot it to you.

>>7180704
fuck, the DL version is 800x600, I need to get it now

>>7180713
These days we have tons of fully-voiced high-resolution eroge with shittons of CG. I don't see how trying to be visually a little more inventive beyond going standard sprites + CG is somehow suddenly such a massive undertaking that the titles that have the budget for it could be counted on a single hand.

>>7180775
Why do you have to get so anal over this?
The point was that not many games actually bother to do something else than the usual in this respect, especially by the time kusarihime was released.
This kind of thing is pretty charming and ands too the experience.

Kusari-hime is a 8/10.
It's a good game but you shouldn't hype yourself so much over it, it does have its failings that hurt it quite badly.
Forest is god tier material though, easily in my top 10

>>7180798
My point was that it's doubtful other companies don't try to be inventive because of the expense and it upsets me because it is really charming and adds to the experience and I don't understand why so few others have bothered to do anything like it for the past decade since Kusari-hime has come out.

I would beinterested in translating the game. The problem is, I'm not too onfident in neither my Japanese nor English skills so the translation would require an editor and proofreader at least.

>>7180808
Actually, is there any detailed summary of Forest out there? I'm really curious about that game, but there's almost no info o it, to the degree that I hav almost no idea what it is actually about.

>>7181047
This wouldn't change much even after playing a translated version of it.

>>7181047
Umineko with Disney in place of Agatha Christie

>>7181065
And actually good.

>>7181068
How good?

What engine does it run on anyway? I might give it a try hacking it.

I'd donate to buy the translator a coffee machine.

I've always been interested in this one.

>>7183530
Yes, that should b enough of a bribe for now.

>>7184361
It was a joke referring to Necrosis, a translator who loved his gore.

He would have "translated" gore screaming show if we pulled togather and bought him a fancy Java machine because that was his hobby.

I think this is one of those games that will eventually get translated, maybe in the near future. It's in ixrec's willing to translate list and it's liar-soft, plus someone else here is interested(?) too.
http://tsukiatte.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/compiled-lists-of-stuff-to-read/

>>7183524
Liar soft's Rscript.
Pretty bad and old version, though, most of their games use it

>>7184415
So many cool games could see some translation if someone cracks that.

>>7184436
Doesn't inganock's work with that too?
Ixrec's staff even managed to insert floating text out the box in Forest.
Their only problematic engine is Sona Nyl's.

>>7184449
>Ixrec's staff even managed to insert floating text out the box in Forest.
they used the credit lines for that though, they didn't magically create them out of nowhere

>>7184465
Yeah, I know that, but Forest uses a simkilar engine to Kusairihime's, so it should be the same process for both.

>>7184485
It uses completely te sam engine.

Go hack the engine then.

There are already tools for it.

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Can anyone link meto a functinal DLL for it?

I meant DDL

http://www.filestube.com/3dpznPWx7BOcyWXpejbdI6/Kusarihime-euthanasia.html

I need help! I downloaded it but I seem to be missing the music.
???

>>7189715
You aren't.
YOu need to mount the 'gamedisc' iso and then place it in the drive next to your hard disks, so considering you have your hard disk in C, gamedisc must be in D for teh music to play.
So yeah, go change letters.

I got C, D, E, F as a hard disc with F being the one where the game is installed. The game is mounted in H.
Just to make sure, I just ave to ount it as a G, right?

Ok, thx. It's working fine now.
Though it kinda felt really atmospheric without the music.

>>7189822
The music adds a lot later on, seriously, especially the track of the OP, favourite track of the OST.

>>7189844
Yeah, the op was done in such a nice and simple way, I felt surprised at it.

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