/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Has /jp/ become so secondary they don't even know who the Prismriver sisters are because they aren't in any well-known flash animations?

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merlin is a slut. can't keep her shirt on

Prismriver sisters are sure proof that even the cutest youkai want to eat humans, as seen in Sakuya's route.

If I were you OP, I'd be glad if my favorite Touhou's were out of the spotlight. It only runs them. Shikieiki has already been twisted in fanon by IOSYS.

I don't have any images of them. But I will say that dying while talking to them after beating them up is bullshit.

Worst boss in PCB
Best music in the game

Puzzling

Youtube related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61-yeS0aqg8

>>7000982

>Shikieiki has already been twisted in fanon by IOSYS

That's a pretty harsh judgement. You make it sound so black and white.

Merlin is the best Prismriver.

Merlin has canon underwear.

There are better poltergeists in Gensokyo

>>7001020
Pretty much everything in Gensokyo is better than the Prismriver sisters.

>>7000965

They were in the one about Layla.

Anyway, if the Prismrivers don't get any attention, it's because two of them completely suck, to the point where they drag the third awesome one down with them.

>>7000997

>>7001026

how do they even have discernably different personalities?

>>7001026
The awesome one is exceptionally awesome though.
And she -does- do solo performances for depressed ghosts. So she isn't dragged down -all- the time.

>>7001035
>touhou characters
>personality

>>7001046
buttfrustated yuukafag

>>7001032
y u post my picture

>>7001055
>implying Yuka's personality isn't also totally butchered by fanon

Who the fuck uses Marisa in PCB?

Also Prismriver sisters are the worst trio out of every trio in Touhou.

this thread is a good example of how /jp/ is a shadow of it once was. a call to obscure touhous and less than 100 posts?

it should be the busiest time of the night for any internet board, but /jp/ is moving very slow

where the fuck did everyone go? i can't imagine people went to bun. there must be some place new people went

>>7001035

Play the games. If nothing else, the difference in portrait emotions and tones of dialogue should make it clear they're not all the same person.

>>7001038
That one is indeed super-awesome, which should really serve to underscore just how much the other two completely suck.

>>7001115

What other trios are there?

>>7001115

Players who are good enough not to need auto-aim shot.

>>7001119
I have moved out myself and only visit on occasion, but it was not to bun. There are other sites much more suited for discussion than /jp/ is these days. The entire site has been going through the motions of shit, slowly but surely though.

>>7001131
Shrinemaiden?

>>7001138
Pooshlmer

>>7001131

If you know of any, care to enlighten us? Leave it in a field where newfriends wouldn't think to look

/jp/ is just basically on par with bun and shrinemaiden right now

>>7001119
>obscure touhous
>Prismriver

>>7001148
you'll find it if you look hard enough. Suffering is good for the soul, and the last thing I want is all these TRUENEET to invade /so/.
>>7001145
Pooshlmer has been dead for quite a while now anon. Shrinemaiden is on the same level as /jp/.

So good.

>>7001183
>/so/.
/bun/ is better than tohno-chan

>>7001182

I wish you'd tell us why you like her so much

>>7001183

b-b-but my power level isn't high enough! you wouldn't be so cruel as to cut me off from my people, would you? i'd have to go out and get a job... and possibly have to talk to 3D females. ;_;

just went back and played stages 4-6 of PCB for the first time in like 2 years. Got my ass kicked hard.

>>7001188
>>7001188
You're right publictrip-kun, you're the expert. Forget I mentioned anything.

>>7001197

Lunasa is calm and rational on top of being pretty hot.

In comparison, Merlin alternates between moronic and psychotic and Lyrica is an ugly cunt.

They'd probably be more successful if they changed the name of their band to "Merlin and the other two".

>>7001145
Bwahahahahaha....

Oh.. oh... were you serious? I... I'm so sorry.

>>7001225
I almost forgot about that horrible album, fuck you.

merlin is clearly a slut

she should go worship at moriya

Either the ghosts would kill themselves all over again or nobody would come to their shows because of her.

Either the ghosts would kill themselves all over again or nobody would come to their shows without her.

Shame they aren't more popular.

Why can't we have more doujins like this?

>>7001241
Merlin is beautiful and pure.

Lunasa, on the other hand, looks too close to Marisa, which means she's probably a slut by association.

>>7001278
>looks too close to Marisa, which means she's probably a slut by association.
But they look nothing alike beyond the hair and Marisa isn't a slut.

>>7001278
How could you say such an absurd thing?

>>7001276
Oh my goodness good question. Such a beautiful doujin.

>>7001286
>But they look nothing alike beyond the hair
Black and white clothes.
>and Marisa isn't a slut.
Pffffhahahahaha~! You're such a card, Anon!

>>7001276
Because God doesn't love us.

>>7001293
Well, believe you me, I don't want to say it. I would actually like Lunasa more if she didn't remind me of Marisa. If there were a Prismriver I didn't like, it'd be that manipulative smart-aleck Lyrica.

>>7001305
Why do you hate Marisa so much? Or, more importantly, how can you let said hate effect your opinion of other Touhous which just sorta remind you of her? That's ridiculous.

>>7001295

Marisa is the least slutty main character.

>>7001305
>>7001295
>>7001278
>>7001287
We get it you hate Marisa. I hate Sanae but I don't go around posting 'Sanae is a slut lololol XD".

slut!=hate

Marisa is awesome, but she's a slut, no matter how you look at it.

Stop shitting up the board and get out, secondaries.

Lunasa or get out

why do you like lunasa so much anon?

>>7001115
>Who the fuck uses Marisa in PCB?

I used to say that I would 1cc every touhou game with Marisa first, so me. Incidently, this was broken when I came to IN. Fuck, why is the magic team so awful.

If the Prismrivers are constructs based on dead people, and they play in the afterlife, does this mean that they play to the original dead Prismriver sisters? Awkward.

>>7002791
Just use the MAlice cannon.
Everyone loves it.

>>7002816
>Malice

>>7002791
>every touhou game
HRtP and SoEW must of been pretty hard.

>>7002905
Unless it's bullet hell it's not really touhou. ZUN agreed, don't bother him about it.

>>7002816
It ruins the whole purpose, might as well do some hacking of myself while I am it.

>>7003154
Because the others aren't hax enough?
Reimu's team has her ultra long time for death bombing and perfect homing
Remilia's team has a free bomb for every death
Yuyuko's team basically destroys everything on the screen
It's fair.

>>7002905
>must of
Fucking retard.

>>7003158
At least there's a chance of losing with those.

Don't be so childishly arrogant, anon.

>>7002791
It was to make up for Marisa being awesome in every other game before and after.

>>7001323
>Why do you hate Marisa so much?
Because, quite simply, she needs to be hated. Everyone dumps on Reimu and all the eeeevil things she does, but of course, when Marisa does it, everyone's all "HA HA HA OH THAT SCAMP". She's seen as an adorably mischievous character who gets a free pass, while Reimu, probably in some part being the usual hero, is looked down upon in every possible capacity. No. I won't take it. Yeah, it's probably just contrarian, but it's the position I'll take.
>Or, more importantly, how can you let said hate effect your opinion of other Touhous which just sorta remind you of her? That's ridiculous.
I've got to cover all my bases.
>>7001326
Until she's properly reviled, my work will never be done.

>>7003213
I've always thought that having a dislike on a Touhou would just ruin the whole experience, since you couldn't be able to enjoy any kind of work that would include such character without feeling a sense of grudge, I teached myself to avoid doing that and only have certain preferences but nothing below the average for any character.

I do however, agree with this one part:

>Everyone dumps on Reimu and all the eeeevil things she does, but of course, when Marisa does it, everyone's all "HA HA HA OH THAT SCAMP".

It is true that that's the general opinion, of the haters that is. But nonetheless what I do is just ignore the insults and complains and just carry on.

>>7003225
It's the sacrifice I have to make, anon.

This is the path I have chosen. No regrets.

>>7003213
>Everyone dumps on Reimu and all the eeeevil things she does
/jp/ - Secondary Culture

>>7003237
Do you care to give anything beyond a dismissive remark?

>>7003237
I think what he meant is that people emphatize out of scorn on the ''seemingly evil'' things that she does, when actually nobody in Touhou has ever done such (except Okuu) and is just general hatedom. The ones on /jp/ are just the ones that say ''fuck dat reimu shes a bitch'' over and over, those and the ones who are angry at the popularity poll.

>>7003213
Marisa is a bitch. Her fans and everyone else know she's a bitch, so it's not worth mentioning. Everyone likes her for what she is, and all is well in the fandom.

Reimu is a bitch. Her "fans" can't accept her for what she is and go around insulting everyone who took time to read the story and knows her canon personality and is not afraid to point it out to people who didn't and don't. Useless shitstorms follow, threads and friendships get destroyed.

That's really all there is to it. You are the reason Reimu is "hated". Want to change that? Either stop posting, or stop being an idiot. Attacking other people's Touhous will only make matters worse for you. Unless that's your point, of course.

>>7003280
Okay, what evil has Okuu ever done? I'm listening.

>>7003377
She wanted to burn up all of Gensokyo and turn it into hell. She is the only stage 6 boss with pure evil intentions.

>>7003386
I'm asking what she has done, not what she possibly maybe intended to.

>>7003416
Well if you look at it that way no in Touhou has really ever done anything evil because Reimu always puts a stop to it.

>>7003423
Not really. Remillia does cover Gensokyo in red mist and does try to invade the moon. Yuyuko does steal the spring. Kanako at least does attempt to take over Gensokyo.

What has Okuu ever done? A geyser?

>>7003489
Well assuming Okuu had managed to pull off her little plan like the others, there wouldn't be anyone left to tell. Unlike when red mist comes, someone goes to moon, someone steals spring and someone whores for faith.

>>7003362
>Marisa is a bitch. Her fans and everyone else know she's a bitch, so it's not worth mentioning. Everyone likes her for what she is, and all is well in the fandom.

>Reimu is a bitch. Her "fans" can't accept her for what she is and go around insulting everyone who took time to read the story and knows her canon personality and is not afraid to point it out to people who didn't and don't. Useless shitstorms follow, threads and friendships get destroyed.

I don't see that at all.

>>7003509
Now you're not even assuming she'd go on a rampage now, you're assuming she'd just burn everything down in a second before anyone could even attempt to stop her.

Which raises the question - if she's actually capable of doing just that and was planning to do so, why didn't she? Why did she just wait patiently underground for someone to come and beat her up?

>>7003545
Because she needed to relight old hell before making new hell. Creating self sustaining raging infernos is probably a lot of work.

I think we already have an okuu thread, guys.

>>7003362
A person can't be dissed for being a ''bitch'' if she has a reason to do so, which Reimu does.

And even so, you're the one who's blocking everyone's opinion and claiming yours as truth.

>>7003590

All those red hand prints are mine.

>>7003590
me covered in hand prints

>>7003561
Hold it!

So it took her weeks (months?) of work to relight a small old hell, and then she'd... wait, I'll quote the relevant part of my question, note the phrasing... "burn everything down in a second before anyone could even attempt to stop her" in the vast overground?

If we weren't cultured people of /jp/ who are above those silly things, I'd post some Miles Edgeworth reaction image right now.

>>7003614
There's a difference between burning everything to ash and turning said ash into a new hell. Notice how old hell was basically burning on its own without her help when Reimu arrived?

>>7003594
So, what's Reimu's reason for attacking, mugging and stealing from random people? Lack of donations? Menstrual cycle?

>>7003644
It's in her job description.

>>7003644
racism

>>7003635
Of course, but it's the opposite of what you think.

If she needs to work hard to create a self-sustaining fire (which she doesn't need to take care of afterwards), this means it must be an even harder work to create a non-self-sustaining fire which she does need to take care of solely with her own power, doesn't it?

>>7003678
explain further.

>>7003693
I'm not really good enough with particle physics to give a proper detailed explanation, I'm afraid.

>>7003678
The old hell was already burning without her own actions, or at least, without her being the one to cause it with her nuclear power. Her job was to control Hell's fires, after she went mad with power, she stopped giving a damn about that and since there was _nobody to control it_ it went out of control. Now since she was stopped by Reimu before we could see her incinerate the above ground, we don't know how exactly she would have done so (one would assume she'd just shoot non-danmaku suns everywhere or make a giant one that would naturally extinguish life).

Now, according to the manual, Okuu first ignored what Kanako said but she didn't INMEDIATELY decide to burn everything at once, it basically says that she slowly started becoming more and more psycho so she WOULD have eventually gone to do her torching, but Orin interviened and the heroines came first, Okuu seemed ready to do so right when Reimu came though, at least after she defeated the shrine maiden.

Which she didn't, and afterwards she returned to her normal self, although apparently she's a lot more active and determined, also the Gensokyo version of a nuclear enthusiast (''Nuclear energy is good for you'').

>>7003644
Other than Tokiko I can't recall a single event where she deliberately mugged someone (succesfully), and even so she did the former with the normal human belief that UNKNOWN youkai being seen with human-village-item are an odd sight, it's like seeing a dog with your history book on it's mouth.

So no reason for mugging because there is no mugging. Now, her grumpiness? Poverty, ungratefulness, being trolled, having her already small amount food being stolen constantly, etc.

I'm not saying she is a goddess of peace or that she isn't mean to those she doesn't know, I'm saying the reasons since she's one of the very few characters (if any other) whose personality is given an explanation.

>>7003916
Umm, as far as explanations of characters' personalities, I'm perfectly happy with most of them, really. I don't see what would make Reimu so different.

And, umm, why are you not counting unsuccessful attempts? And, also, why is she selling the stolen books to another youkai afterwards?

>>7003989
Because the only other event that's relatively close to mugging would be UFO in which she got Marisa-vibes and went on to a treasure hunt to hopefully redeem her seemingly eternal poverty, only to find out there was nothing inside and being dissapointed at it being just another incident.

By personality reasons, I mean that hers is the one who's given the most (or the only) background, other than ''she's just like that because yeah''. I'm not talking about other characters, I'm perfectly fine with the way everyone and everything is in Gensokyo, by the way.

>>7004011
Looting Mayohiga? Stealing Reisen't veil?

And about personalities, you're basically refusing to answer.

>>7001276
So has this great doujin been translated into English yet?

>>7004051
She didn't know it was hers, she found her wounded on the outside and took care of her until she woke up, now you're just putting unnecessary emphasis on minor details like some people around here. I don't know about the Mayohiga thing though

And what else do you want me to say about the personality thing? I've said that hers is the only whose actions have been given reason and background, that's the only difference she has. That said, we still don't know what happened before HRtP.

>>7004094
PCB, stage 2.

And actions of most other characters have been given reason and background. I don't see the difference and I want you to demonstrate what exactly the difference is if you think there is any.

I saw the in game screen shot and got excited.

Then I read the post and quickly realized it wasn't a gameplay thread.

>>7004110
Oh that.

...Are you serious? Anybody can figure out from the dialogue that she didn't mean it, not like Chen or anybody complained afterwards.

And about the other thing, what I mean is that, every other character is given a specific time in either an incident or a normal appearance (endings, mangas, books, etc) in which that character acts the way ZUN wanted, however, the only explanation for the way they act is basic assuming from either the incident itself or her dialogue (or both). I don't mean that other characters have zero personality, what I mean is that Reimu is the one who's been given the most background, the most explanation for her current way of behavior, both the mean, grumpy times and the relaxed, friendly ones.

>>7004094
>you're just putting unnecessary emphasis on minor details

And as for that, it's a short passing mention of only a fourth example of her attempting to steal something. Now, who's putting unnecessary emphasis on minor details here? Aren't you overlooking both the previous ones and the sheer number of them?

>>7004135
>not like Chen or anybody complained afterwards

It's not like she had any dialogue afterwards (apart from that one line in the next game). And I'm pretty sure Ran complained, although she was more concerned about Chen than any material items, apparently.

I'm all fine with the "trash-talk" explanation... only, unlike most trash-talk, it's not a first offense, and it's contradicted by neither the world mechanics nor subsequent events. We know, for example, that "killed" Sakuya and Mystia are alive and well because they show up later, what's your rationale for claiming that Mayohiga is non-looted?

And how is Reimu's behaviour explained any more than, say, Remilia's (whose personality is described down to the physiological level, basically), Sakuya's (who had an actual character development!) or even Patchouli's? They all have a number of appearances where they present a coherent, constantly developing character traits. What's making Reimu different? Give at least one concrete example, so I can at least understand what are you talking about, because so far, I don't.

>>7004227
Yeah, well, Yukari blew up her house, so they're even.

>>7004227
Not the same person but, as said in the Okuu threads, there's a clear spot where common sense is involved Touhou's dialogue, I think by now every person should have known that not every single line spoken by a person is going to be serious, this is Touhou after all. Only the dialogue that is related to the actual core-plot matters, usually only the stage 5 and 6 boss have those. If one were to take every unexplained action as serious since it wasn't told what happened afterwards, characters would be looked quite differently than they are now, it's common sense that ZUN put them there just to create dialogue, all of his games and stories are like that and the most obvious ones (in this case, Reimu straight out saying she's gonna rob a human village while she walks in it) are to be expected to be ignored by the readers.

>>7004273
Mayohiga != Human Village, Reimu didn't visit human village in-game until IN, and she doesn't claim to rob it then.

And, unlike certain other actions described in dialogues, the fact that looting is common in Gensokyo is actually well supported by other sources.

>>7004227
>last paragraph

Let me put it this way, first of all, backstory is not a full explanation for a character's current behavior, the people at SDM are given backstory and ''character X has Y attribute in her personality'' in the manual/books, while Reimu is given ''she sometimes is X BECAUSE Y'', not only in the books, but in the actual events as well. Yes, other characters may also sometimes get events that trigger an attitude of them that contributes to the description of such, but, for the last time, Reimu is the one who's given the most explanations (see above), yes it may be because she's the main character, but that didn't have to matter in my first posts. This is getting out of hand.

So how about them Prismrivers.

>>7004311
But Mayohiga IS a human village is it not? The post you quoted isn't referring to ''Human Village'' but A human village, it's always been silly to call places like that.

Here's another example, Reimu says she's going to seal the shit out of Byakuren and Nue, what does she do? ''i was just trolling lol''.

>>7004315
It's only getting out of hand because you're failing to give one concrete example (so I can give you a counterexample to demonstrate you're wrong).

The people at SDM each appear in several games, ALL Touhou printed material, and pretty much star and play a much bigger role than Reimu in at least one of them (SSiB). How the hell can you claim those are not actual events?

>>7004319
They would surely survive a derailment as nasty as this one.

>>7004319
I like Lunasa.

>>7004324
No, it's not: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Mayohiga

There's only one human village in Gensokyo, as far as we know.

And I already adressed that. Nue and Byakuren aren't sealed after the game, and neither are other people Reimu threatened before, so we have a solid proof it was just trash-talk. Here, we don't have any proof, what we do have is previous instances of in-game instances of thievery treats being true (Marisa, EoSD) and previous instances of Reimu stealing people's shit. See the difference?

I wish to attend one of their live performances.

>>7004350
But I already talked about that, I said that it's common sense to know which dialogue is trash talk and which one isn't, the latter is the ones that related to the actual core-plot part of the game, I also said that otherwise Touhou characters would have quite different personalities (obviously I can't recall every single moment where dialogue is seen more as a sarcastic joke but it's in every Touhou game and it's quite clear). The claim that ''if it isn't explained, it's serious'' is ridiculous, not only does it also not work in your favour since there's no evidence of it as you're claiming, but it's also silly considering that almost all of Touhou is a big fat joke. ZUN projects it as a clear attribute for every character, it's clearly assumable how at first they're battling fiercely yet at the next moment they're having a friendly tea-time and the culprit is even calmly telling about what happened.

Also, here's this claim from ZUN himself, from the very game that you're using as evidence.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom:_Music

>This theme's goal is to show that the characters are
relaxed despite the intensity of the fight. This exemplifies
them in my opinion... not the gothic-lolita costumes, I swear.

Fucking curvy laser bitch needs to get the fuck out.

>>7004348
How interesting.

And I like them in PoFV, I hate them in PCB.

oh yeah, and Lunassa is the best Prismriver.

The music of this fight split my ears.

>>7004383
Only there is evidence, and I already pointed it out. Circumstantial, but evidence nonetheless. You can't just go to the other extreme and disregard everything said in game dialogues just because they don't fit your perception of characters. Try looking at the bigger picture instead - and bigger picture demonstrates that looting threats aren't just jokes.

And Reimu was certainly pretty relaxed when she attacked Tokiko, too.

I have prepared some images to post as a conciliation for derailing the thread.

Listen, there's no evidence for the events without evidence to say whether they happened or not so you can't say nothing about it, there's no repercussion for the characters involved, there's no ''bigger picture'', that's just you making baseless assumptions. Not sure if you've noticed but people tend to be coherent, and although Gensokyo isn't the place with coherence as its biggest factor (although you seem to think everything in Touhou is serious), it's not coherent to go saying ''I'm gonna rob this place'' while IN the place if you're actually thinking of robbing it, not to mention, it'd ruin her image as shrine maiden: one that does favours for humans.

>>7004456
>Whoa, so many books.
>I'll just borrow some later.

That's Marisa from stage 4 of EoSD. Incoherent, indeed. Are you claiming she did not "borrow" anything, too?

Maybe they're just, you know, relaxed about it? There's no law enforcement in Gensokyo, after all.

>it'd ruin her image as shrine maiden

I don't think her image can be ruined any further.

>Prismrivers
#2 on my list of Bosses I Hate That Have Great Themes

>>7005078
Great themes? their's is like ear razors at the mid-point, though otherwise its pretty good

There is this picture.
My favorite fanon thing about the Prismrivers is how UI-70 has an album with 18 arranges of their theme, all with the exact same track title.

Big fat bump.

>>7004473
According to what >>7004456 said, you and him were only talking about events without evidence, you can't use events that actually have evidence against him. He's talking about how you're making assumptions of phrases that have no afterword on whether they happened or not.

Also Reimu can't ruin her image at all to the humans because barely anyone (from the human side) knows her.

>>7007136
Wait, wait, aren't you missing something? I DO have evidence - Reimu's words. What is lacking is the evidence that would counter them. The two of us were only discussing suppositions by the end because that's what his whole line of reasoning hinges on. And I simply demonstrated that his suppositions aren't supporting his position either.

And people know Reimu well. They just avoid her shrine because it's infested with youkai.

This is a pretty shitty thread.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>7007957
You're the one missing it, what I meant by evidence is whether the person who mentioned the words actually committed the action or not, to which you no evidence of, only the fact that a person said it.

If Byakuren hadn't appeared in Reimu's UFO endings, would that mean that she was sealed since Reimu kept talking about it? Yet she wouldn't have, this applies to every other un-evidenced mentioning, just because ''it doesn't have counter-evidence afterwards'' doesn't make it true, as said countless times before, the whole dialogue aspect is usually filled with sarcastic remarks, and the characters' expressions, although ZUN-ish, should give enough hint. Here's one I played recently: Reimu B's EoSD dialogue against Remilia in Stage 6, by reading that, any reader would instantly understand how things in Touhou flow, and such things went on and on to this day, of course the ones that actually relate to the progress of the plot are the ones that are usually worthwhile.