/jp/ - Otaku Culture

No, because it requires social interaction via IRC - I can't deal with that.

No.

You should be able to tell why not from this post alone.

Oh boy ANOTHER thread about it.

No, because then I would be expected to "solve" a problem that can only be fixed by mods actually doing some legwork, or the complete destruction of 4chan.

I have this little voice in my head that says "don't be the patsy they're looking for." You should listen to your little voice, too.

I considered it, but then I learned you have to interact with the mods more than just leaving them notifications and such.
Also >>6841438.

Yes, someone needs to start deleting all those goddamn metathreads.

In before /jp/ finally gets a janitor, who immediately makes a thread saying "Hello /jp/, this is your new janitor speaking" and immediately gets his powers revoked because janitors aren't allowed to reveal their presence.

>>6841471
Don't think so.

>>6841438
Ah, fuck really? I was thinking about it too.

Indeed.

It's not like I have anything better to do after work.

Thinking about it. I'm curious how many others are considering a /jp/ janitorial position, myself.

>>6841451

I still think /jp/ is decent most of the time, and keeping it clean doesn't seem like it'd be too much hassle, if you have a slightly generous idea of what belongs on this board (all things otaku welcome and all that.)

Really, our main problems are the occasional /b/tard hit-and-run shitposters, the very occasional raid, and the various daily doses. Botspam is a thing of the past now. We're a decent board despite everything and it wouldn't take much to make us better.

I'm scared that some quality thread shithead will become a meido and start deleting all threads that don't STRICTLY ADHERE TO CANON

AND NO IMAGE DUMPS EITHER! WE NEED DISCUSSION

AND ONLY DISCUSSIONS I LIKE THAT ARE ALSO CANONICAL

Yes.

But not for /jp/.

>>6841501
>start deleting all threads that don't STRICTLY ADHERE TO CANON
Luckily, this isn't /m/

>>6841501
He already said during that shitstorm when AoC quit that he wouldn't delete such threads if he was a janitor.

It would probably be more fun to be a janitor on /a/. I'd like to bully doubles/roulette threads.

I might apply to be /tg/'s meido, which is funny because I don't actually play any board games or P&P

/jp/ already has at least one maid, or at least had one recently.

If moot's prior statement is to be taken at face value, then /jp/ will likely have an actual mod soon and people who post shitty metathreads will be banned.

You cannot BALEETARU my OTAKU SPIRIT.

>>6841503
what

and nope, my vacations are almost over.

>mfw SIR YES SIR

No, I enjoy trolling too much. I could never be a mod or janitor, I've got a talent for pissing people off.

>>6841438
This. I would have honestly considered it if it wasn't for the IRC part.

>>6841509
he'd just keep spamming them then?

and has he quit for good this time?

I hope so. 90% of the fun of touhou is all the fanmade shit out there.

The characters are vaguely defined for a purpose, you know.

If we were limited only to CANONOMGERZ1111!11 then what would we have to talk about?

>>6841514
mods are global silly goose

how did you not know that?

>>6841523
I don't know. And nope he is not gone, you don't seem to know what the archive is.

As for that "fun touhou", that's merely your opinion. People like different things after all.

>start recruiting janitors AFTER deleting /baw/ and /stormfront/

I frequented both of those boards since they were new. I remember moot's 1get sticky; if I could have been a janitor on either of those boards I would have deleted hundreds of threads a day and the places would have resembled actual discussion.

Are you guys really afraid or unwilling to do it just because of IRC chat? It's not that big a deal, you can take your time in a discussion.

ehhhhhh!??!?! sugoi da neeeeee...... kawaiiiiiiiiiiii!

>_<

>>6841529
so it's fun to only talk about canon in game dialogue?

fan made comics and games and figurines and dolls and art is not fun?

that's... so autistic

>>6841523
I don't see those posts in fanon threads as long as they are not retarded like "which touhou has the biggest ass" or something like that while he is active. I think you have the wrong impression that the guy is against any kind of fanon.

It says you have to have some basic knowledge with IRC. I mean, what is there to know? You log on and you type the messages you want to convey. If you manage to use 4chan, you manage to use IRC.

>>6841520
You could do what faggot mods/janitors do, delete posts you don't agree with, file for bans on people because they rubbed you the wrong way.

argue with someone and if you feel you haven't trolled them and they've actually pissed YOU off, then just fucking ban them/delete the thread.

>>6841532
It's because it's an extra hassle.

>>6841539
>so it's fun to only talk about canon in game dialogue?
Canon is not only limited to that, but you obviously don't know about canon to say such things.
>fan made comics and games and figurines and dolls and art is not fun?
What are you even trying to say here?

So I'd have to put up with the stupid raid shit moot encourages? No fucking way.

>>6841541
>impression that the guy is against any kind of fanon.

based on his comments about fanon discussion of any sort being silly and anything encouraging such discussion being bad, which I really should have screen capped, yes I do have that impression

suigin for mod put this in your sig

>>6841553
/jp/ wouldn't even need new janitors if it weren't for moot being a dipshit and driving away our old one.

No.

Partly because no one on /jp/ can even agree as to what belongs here and partly because any shit threads I would delete would likely just get reposted more often with responses like "meido is butthurt".

>>6841566
I liked our old meido :(

>>6841560
Well you are wrong then. There are many fanon threads or threads with "casual", silly discussion without his posts. He even claimed to make silly threads once in a while in one of those walls of text if I recall correctly.

>>6841568
exactly this

/jp/ is such a testy board

>>6841569
I did too, which is why I'm glad he quit. Doing a volunteer job where the boss is constantly shitting on you isn't something I'd wish on anyone

/jp/ has no reason to exist at all. Pretend all you want you know it's true. Everything here belongs on another board or is metashit.

While trying to make /jp/ not suck would be something I wouldn't mind doing, the moderation / random bannings have been so retarded the past year that having to work with them would be frustrating.

>>6841578
/jp/ is said to be just like /b/. If you destroy it Touhou, VN, etc will all end up in /a/ and moot doesn't want that.

>>6841578
Dolls and Figs-Toy
pirate stuff- /t/ or /r/
VNs-/lit/
Touhou- /v/ /h/ /e/ ,etc. you get the idea the Only truly unique thing we have is vocaloid

I consider 4chan to be a lost cause. The main staff (moot and his friends he hired as mods) don't give a shit about quality so I'm not either

>>6841590
or /v/

>>6841592
Non poseable things are banned from /toy/, I think

I'm going to apply for /v/. Unlike /jp/, there's a lot of volume and it's pretty clear-cut what's a vidya thread and what's not.

>>6841578
>>6841592
Look anon. Don't even waste your time typing a "part 3". Moot himself said that he didn't want any of /jp/ subjects on other boards, so he made /jp/ to hold them all together since to him they are all useless and annoying.

So you pathetic attempt to say what goes where is futile because it will never happen.

>>6841520
Mods love trolling. Have you heard of MD Geist on /a/ or Jojan on /fit/?

"just let /b/ raid them" - moot to the old /jp/ janitor.


I'd rather eat shit than work for him

>>6841603
Good luck with becoming a janitor in the third biggest board on 4chan

>>6841606
Maybe , but All I can say is if I ran this shit ,4chan would become fucking classy.

>>6841615
>>6841606

Oh, forgot one thing-HURR GUIZ HOW I GET TO GENSOKYO OR HOW DO I BE NEET?

You become NEET through life trauma and become cancer to society. The whole suicide =Gensokyo thing has gone on way to long. When you die you rot in the fucking ground.

>>6841622
Let people dream.

>>6841608
Considering the context of that, I agree with moot. AoC was a fucking nut.

I might as well. Sure, the moderation staff is complete shit and moot is too busy hanging out with his KOOL KIDZ KLUB to care about 4chan apart from making shitty threads and boards, but I still have a vested interest in keeping /jp/ decent.

Well, it's either here, /a/, or /tg/. Hopefully we get an option to mark multiple boards we're interested in acting as a janitor for.

Why the fuck would I want a part in running the place when it's obviously being steered into a fucking wall called facechan?

>>6841625

That's fine ,but I say keep it to yourself. We don't fucking care.

The only reason why /jp/ hasn't been killed is because moot secretly loves /jp/.

To answer your question, never.

>>6841592
>Only truly unique thing we have is vocaloid
We have a board for "music"

>>6841638
This. It's like becoming a waiter on the titanic

>>6841566
How did moot drive away the old /jp/ janitor?

I was considering it, but I've pretty much completely stopped browsing other boards and I'm not good enough of a meido that /jp/ deserves.

>>6841644
Oh not this shit again.

>>6841644
Giga Puddi shit and /b/ somehow thinking that /jp/ was responsible for it. Take a guess what happened then.

Board was unreadable for hours, meido couldn't handle it, moot didn't care.

>>6841632

What'd Colombia ever do, aside from posting nice day threads and throwing that pissy bitchfit? (Which seems understandable if it's true that he actually tried hard to keep this place clean in the face of a moderation staff actively hostile towards this board.) Unless I missed or forgot something, he was a pretty good janitor?

>>6841644
Moot encouraged /jp/ raids and told the janitor not to stop it

I'm afraid of deleting /jp/ threads. There are obvious ones that come when we're being raided but then there are those that aren't necessarily on topic but can bring great fun. To enforce these rules to closely can suck the fun out of this place.

>>6841608

>>6841652
I don't have a link in the archive, but sometimes he'd just sit in one thread deleting posts he didn't agree with. Deleting 50 posts in one thread while ignoring the rest of the board doesn't count as janitoring.

>>6841651
>>6841658
Stop thinking that it was some elaborate plot by moot. The modding staff actually encouraging raids was just the final straw.

>>6841660
You basically said that you can't have fun with actual content. The content is not the problem, you are.

Knowing moot he'll probably pick janitors based on who can make the best ACSII awesome face then encourage raids on their first day of working

>>6841665
I never said that moot was responsible for it. Shit, I honestly hope he wasn't behind it and was more or less just apathetic about it. Given the way this shit unfolded, it seems more reasonable to point the blame to the godawful moderators.

>>6841674
So if I can make some ShiftJS art, he's likely to make me admin?

No one from /jp/ should be a janitor, i can already see that retard feeling like a God and imposing his glorious vision of how /jp/ should be.

If someone from this board becomes a janitor i just hope is not Suigin or QC.

Insult me all you want but i think we are ok without a janitor patrolling 24/7 like AoC used to.

>>6841681
Only if you go to a meetup with him

After seeing what kind of people the current modding staff are I want no part of it. Especially on IRC.

Yes

>>6841682
You are sick.

>>6841682

Does anyone have the original with the fat kid in a band uniform?

I lost mine in a boating accident.

>>6841658
And he still tried to stop it...;_;

>>6841688

>>6841644
Janitor asks moot to give us a mod.
moot rename all boards PUDDI PUDDI and all boards come and cry because they have no idea how to use adblocks and this ruins the board for 2 weeks.

>>6841688

>>6841691

Much appreciated.

>>6841643
More like the Gigantic

Moot and co. = Cradle

>>6841688
>I lost mine in a boating accident
No that's just an excuse you're using to hide the fact that you deleted everything.

>>6841702

Yes. Yes it is.

I dislike IRC, so I guess that's a "no".

What kind of "evaluation process" could there possibly be?

>>6841709
They observe you for some time I presume?

>>6841710
But that would require caring

>>6841709
The FBI monitors you for deviant behavior before letting you run their honeypot.

The thought of being in an irc channel with 4chan moderation makes me physically ill.

>>6841709

They can see all posts you have made, if you have been acting 'retarded' just forget about it and yes they see all the stuff you delete.

as a janitor would I have any say in what wacky youtube videos get spammed by moderators?

I think I'll apply. I don't expect I'd have a chance to change /jp/ in any way or make much of a difference, but I've always liked this board so I'm willing to be responsible for keeping it clean.

It's not like my time is worth all that much.

>>6841682
>No one from /jp/ should be a janitor, i can already see that retard feeling like a God and imposing his glorious vision of how /jp/ should be.

So very agreed. Every fuckhead who has posted about becoming a janitor has been all WELL I'LL CLEAN UP HARD AROUND HERE AND DELETE ALLLL THE THREADS I DON'T LIKE. IT'LL BE FUCKING AWESOME

No, fuck that. The only threads that should be deleted are the /b/ raid type ones ("Hey weeaboos," etc) and the porn threads (as much as it pains me to say it, /jp/ IS still a blueboard). Everything else is fine and harmless. Flanfly? Harmless. Netplay threads for various doujin/small MMO games? Harmless. And so on and so forth

Some of you seem to be in some kind of paranoia that every person that claims to think about becoming a janitor is a worthless, mindless jerk that will only delete what he thinks it's wrong.

Things are not like that, my friends. Keep that in mind.

>>6841737
>and the porn threads (as much as it pains me to say it, /jp/ IS still a blueboard).
I disagree, I think porn should stay as long as this board doesn't turn into /h/.

>>6841755
>>6841737
In all honesty, /jp/ should just be switched to a red, and the general rules should be amended to allow loli here.

>>6841754
I'm guessing they're /b/a/v/-tards afraid they won't be able to post their >mfws, >that feel whens, pictures of atomic bombs, anime screencaps and similar crap.

>>6841709
It's an eval/apply process.

>>6841682
>No one from /jp/ should be a janitor, i can already see that retard feeling like a God and imposing his glorious vision of how /jp/ should be.

So very agreed. Every fuckhead who has posted about becoming a janitor has been all WELL I'LL CLEAN UP HARD AROUND HERE AND DELETE ALLLL THE THREADS I DON'T LIKE. IT'LL BE FUCKING AWESOME

No, fuck that. The only threads that should be deleted are the /b/ raid type ones ("Hey weeaboos," etc) and the porn threads (as much as it pains me to say it, /jp/ IS still a blueboard). Everything else is fine and harmless. Flanfly? Harmless. Netplay threads for various doujin/small MMO games? Harmless. And so on and so forth

>>6841737
And what of pointless metathreads? Threads like these are nothing but circlejerks of self-pity and xenophobia of anything that's not /jp/.
Or what about threads like >>6841741, which serve no purpose other than deleting a thread on Page 15?

While I'm not saying that the janitor should go into MAXIMUM NAZI mode and delete damn near everything they don't agree with, I don't think it's very wise to say that the janitor should only work as a glorified filter against spam and porn.

>>6841779
You already posted that.

>>6841737
>Netplay
NO
We don't want your viral marketing or shitty friend begging. If you want e-friends join wow.

>>6841765
Nobody sane want anime shit, >mfw and that feels when, I just don't want someone like sudo starting to delete shit board related and make daily meta threads about what and what is not /jp/ related.

We don't need one.

That said, I think I'll apply anyway in order to reduce the chance of some other chucklefuck getting the job and ruining the board.

>>6841804
That's one of the most retarded things I've ever read in here. How do you think that will somehow reduce chances of others?

>>6841784

That's all they are supposed to do, read Moot's message, janitors are not 'interpreters' of the rules.

Janitors should not delete 'shitposts' as long as they are not breaking the rules, telling other to stop being retarded is a responsability of the users.

>>6841795

You are fucking retarded.
Do you hate the seacats and hisoutensoku threads?

>>6841720

That's bullshit, because AoC was hired. His "have a nice day" daily doses are no better than Japanese bird, Railgun, Kircheis, etc. daily doses.

Not to mention, have you seen some of the staff from the other boards?

moot has no way of knowing who is a good candidate and who is not, he probably asks the current staff for recommendations, and they go on to recommend their own friends or popular tripfags who seem like nice people.

I would be lying if i said no.

If i became a janitor i would be like takano sama and go into a killing spree.

thought about it until
>Janitors are expected to maintain contact with the moderation staff via IRC or e-mail.

I don't want to have to make contact with those retards.

>>6841836
I hate 4chan so fucking much

>>6841842
I don't know why /jp/ janitor would need to maintain contact anyway. Moot/mods don't give a shit about us unless they are organizing raids

>>6841836

>moot has no way of knowing who is a good candidate and who is not.

Mods can see all your posting history, if it's too short you will not be elected.

4chan archives all the posts you have made, remember when Moot went to testify in court? he had all the posting history of the /b/tard that stole Sarah Palin's e-mail.

>>6841825

Yes, I do. I play Touhou by myself in my room. Just me and the score counter. I don't need some advert faggot. If you want a Touhou mmo whine to ZUN. I'm sure he'll grant your wish and you and the normalfags can be the little girl.

>>6841859

And probably a lot of retards like this guy will apply to be a janitor, nobody here should be a janitor.

>>6841852
yeah i don't get the whole need for the extensive irc/email networking either.
i care about the boards i go to enough to want to be a janitor and actually try to do a good job, but i hate the rest of 4chan and its operators too much to bother with it.

>>6841868

off to /b/+/v/ for you

>>6841868
Don't be stupid.

>>6841810
Shitposting is no better than /b/ spam. We need to maintain a degree of quality above other boards. Telling shitposting trolls to stop being retarded is like telling a brick to stop being dense.

>>6841855

So if you have a dynamic IP, you're disqualified?

>>6841874
You and me, we are on the same page

We're going to have nonstop metathreads about this until it's over aren't we? This is what, thread 4 or 5?

>>6841836
That "Kyle" is a mod?
I... I can't express my what I feel. It's a potpourri of rage, disappointment and helplessness.

>>6841885

I have no idea but i guess they will think you have evaded bans or think you are newfriend.

>>6841855 4chan archives all the posts you have made

Maybe I won't apply after all. I can't even remember what sort of stupid bullshit I might have posted back when I first started browsing or late at night when sleep-deprived, and I don't need any hassle over posts about wanting to be a loli or whatever other weird shit I've posted over the years.

>>6841894
Seems like it. Yeah I think this is the fifth one.

I'm going to apply to be a janitor for /cgl/. :3

>>6841897
That's what happens when moot hires his friends

Do you get to pick which board you want to be a janitor on when you apply? Because I'd choose either /co/ or /jp/.

>>6841897
it's quite ironic how people at /a/ cry about how tripfags like taiga are the cancer killing the board and ask the mods for action, unaware that mods are just one of them. apparently there are a bunch of them who use 4chan like it's a social networking site.. disgusting.

>>6841957
which is funny considering moot's next project is basically 4chan with more social networking

>>6841903
This isn't true. I cant remember where I read it ,but the only way a thread is saved is if it has illegal content.

this application process sure sheds a lot of light on the situation here. obviously anyone who gets to be a janitor or especially a mod is going to be a normal to some degree and probably won't understand the board at all. it's no wonder we get mods=fags shit like stupid music and encouraging cross board raids when the anti-social people who would actually do a good job can't get hired.

>>6841438
Oh man, really?
Fuck that.

>>6841950
I'd assume so, since you're expected to know what belongs on the board and what doesn't.

I really wanted to be a janitor until I realized it required routine interaction with other staff. I've never been good at keeping in touch, and if I were to start doing so for this, taking it easy would become impossible.

>>6841990
I wouldn't mind if the staff were people I'd like interacting with, but I can only imagine the mod IRC channel looks like /b/ with names

>>6841975

A mod on /a/ posted a screencap of that archive many months ago when a guy was trying to force an extremely shitty meme, it's not like easymodo it's just a list of all posts you have made.

>>6841975

Q. Is there a limit in terms of -- what happens to the posts, if you have a hundred posts and then 160 posts and 161 posts.
Do they remain viewable for
everyone who visits 4chan, or what happens to those
posts?

A. The posts are, you know, remain in the thread
until the thread is pruned.

Q. Pruned by whom?
A. Automatically by the board software.

Q. And then how would the board automatically
prune the thread?
Does it have a capacity limit?

A. Yeah.
Every board has a maximum number of
threads, say a hundred.
Every time a new thread is
posted, something has to be removed.

Eventually all of
the threads are cycled off and then pruned that way.
It's time based and on some of the boards it's
popularity based.
The oldest least replied to thread
gets bumped off.
Inactive threads basically get bumped
off.

Q. When the thread has been bumped off or
removed, does 4chan keep copies of these threads?

A. No, we do not

Q. Now, you said that 4chan does not keep the contents of these posts.
Does 4chan maintain business
records of web logs, also audit logs and sometimes
banned entries as well, if a particular user has been
banned?

A. Yes

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35688046/Christopher-Moot-Poole-Testimony-in-Palin-Email-Trial

An amusing read if you haven't seen it already.

>>6841973
Details?

>>6842028

>>6842028
10chan.org

>>6842025
Yea, I read through that a while back. I had no idea court procedures were that tedious. The lawyers were fucking thorough too. So many questions with obvious answers but they asked them anyway. I guess it's necessary though.

>>6842025
>You Must be Logged in to Download a Document
>Use your Facebook login and see what your friends are reading and sharing.
You have got to be fucking shitting me. They'll just through that shit on anything, related or not, won't they.

I'll make /jp/ a better place. This first thing I want to get through is permission to delete every idolfag thread. Let's hope that my application will be accepted.

>>6842005
Those were just current posts in 4chan's database sorted by IP.

>>6842025

A hundred posts? If the actual limits used are anything like that, stuff would be gone in no time, at least on the faster boards. Even on a moderately slow board like here they'd only have a log for...what, a few days?

>>6842043
Remember when moot did that once and everyone thought it was a joke?

>>6841977
then how did meido get picked? he most likely knew about /jp/. ans /a/ mods seems like a old guy, he posts random stickies to old shows when ever i go there for a peak.

>>6842043

A facebook account is becoming almost necessary these days, many games and websites require you to have one, i have a facebook account and it's totally empty, it has absolutely nothing.

>>6842062
The "Facebook Connect" shit on April 1st? Yeah, I thought it was a joke because it was absurd to do it, not because it was a sign that 4chan was becoming normal.

>>6842068
anything a facebook account is required for is nothing I'd want anyway

I to become a meido so ill be closer to being a mod, then the great take over will start. WAHAHAHAHAH but seriously who wouldn't want power?

>>6842101
Mods seem like they can do whatever the fuck they want on this site without repercussions so having that kind of power wouldn't be bad at all.

Being a janitor on the other hand is like being a punching bag for all of 4chan and its staff.

>>6842111
but that how it is in real life, you first have a shitty job then rise through the ranks, the problem is getting that Shitty job in the first place. hurr durr no exp, go fight monsters more then come back, i heard that fucking every time.

>>6842124
You've gotta charm them bro. I've been living only on gumption for 5 years of my life. Many of my old jobs I can't leave on a reference sheet because of how badly I did. Yet, I can still get hired from anywhere I apply to.

You will never be a fairy maid working for Ojousama.
Or be a maid at all.
Or hold a paid job of any kind.

>>6841432
I want to be the little girl!

And...
>>6842111
This.

You know whats sad, meido would of been the first /jp/ mod, we would of finally had a powerful god with us, we are cursed. now we will never see the what it is like to have a powerful protector... if somebody dose become a janitor and your from /jp/, don't give up, just keep thinking that you'll be a mod and you'll be able to do anything with /jp/.

Been thinking about it, though I've been thinking about becoming a meido on /g/, as opposed to /jp/....

Both of you see me as shitposters though, and I'd probably never delete any of the lolicon threads until they got covered in so much spam that people start to rage...

Or become a janitor on /vp/ and delete all the gary bomb posts while keeping the gardevoir porn....

>>6842208

The janitor-to-mod promotions? But we have a new janitor already, don't we?

For /jp/? Hell no.

Maybe for /p/ or /cgl/.

>>6842241
no its just some mod that comes by every once in a while i think.

I prefer it this way. I hate to sound like a /b/tard, but the mods usually are fags.

>>6841503
Boof, I hope that you apply for /k/'s...

>>6842340

You know the person who gets picked is gonna try and become a hero of justice and purge the board of everything they don't feel belongs. Which of course will cause more metathreads about why x got deleted and y is still up. And spam. And finally, after going berserk and deleting everything for a week straight, meido 2.0 will suffer a mental breakdown too. Then /jp/ will return to its current decent state, and the cycle will be complete.

>>6842340 I hate to sound like a /b/tard, but the mods usually are fags.

This is why we need decent users who actually care about this place in the system. There are plenty of qualified regulars here who wouldn't go instantly mad with power and who aren't SECRET INTERNET CLUB super-autists.

If that weren't true, it wouldn't be worth being here, right?