/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Amnesia
Cats
and
Cake

Because butthurt fujoshi.

Fucking thieves.
Cap your own troll images at least.

Why is ep4 rated so high? That episode was unspeakably shitty.

I'd tell you but I forgot everything I know.
And you're just a delusion inside my head.

>>6744401
Ange is loved in Japan.

Look at the amount of reviews compared to the others. Smells like butthurt.

Only 1/5 of the readers of episode 1 stayed till episode 7.
Why is Umineko such a failure?

>>6744418
Fujoshi pandering shit

>>6744418
Because it's shit

Why are there only 15 fans for Umineko?
I mean even at the beginning, there are 255 fans

What's the second number?

>>6744447
Standard deviation

>>6744462
Well than ep 8 has the highest deviation so there were people who really liked it too

>>6744463
here
you can almost count 9 and 10 as Ryu and his brother

>>6744418

Less than 1/3 of the readers of the first chapter of Higurashi stayed till the end.
Why is Higurashi such a failure?

>>6744479
It's well known that the Japaneses didn't like Matsuribayashi.
But that's still more votes than even the first episode of Umineko

Odd episodes as good and even episodes as base-breaking clusterfucks rule kept, I see.

>>6744480
lol 15 votes

>>6744487

Because it's older?

And yes Umineko is less than half as popular as Higurashi was, who cares?

It's interesting how much they like Ep7, but hate Ep8 considering the bad ending was essentially confirmed in 7.

What site are these from? I don't read many VNs.

Weren't the reviews/response to Ep7 in Japan really good from the start even though the spoilers sounded bad?

>>6744515
Erogamescape
A rating site for VNs that you can take seriously most of the time, even if some scores are off.

>>6744511
Old games don't get much votes at all, except if they are FSN or something.
The various episodes of Umineko won't get any new votes

Episode 7 among the 3 top rated? LOL

>>6744523
Same reaction the western fanbase that could read it had.
It was just reatrds jumping at spoilers.
Here you have an awesome ep when you assault the capital of books with every fucking character against Bern and Featherine and then a huge let down.

>>6744540
It also has less votes than the others.
Only the big fans stayed, so of course their votes will be more favorable.
And these fans are angry now which explain the very low votes of episode 8

So, what does /jp/ think was up with the Shannon/Jessica/Kanon scenario?

>>6744532
>A rating site for VNs that you can take seriously
15 votes

>>6744555
>>6744532
You're better off trusting VNDB

>>6744567
You actually made me laugh, good job.

>>6744567
>trusting vndb
>only western users
>best rated VNs are those translated
how about no
>>6744555
It was released three days ago and people are still raging over it.
Look at muv luv (actually popular and well known)

>>6744567
>VNDB
>Umineko and Umineko Chiru 5th and 6th best VNs of all time respectively.

How do I find the top VNs by score? I can only find the brands by score

>>6744591
In the span of 4 years, 255 votes for EP1
Umineko only has 255 fans guys

>>6744596
Not true, according to ratings
Though it's starting to resemble EGS

ITT: Goat madness.

>>6744610
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/toukei_median.php?erogame=null&coterie=nu
ll

>>6744622
>Kimi ga Nozomu Eien 90
I wish this would be translated

Those faggots yapping about goats are starting to annoy me.

It's horrible. I'm about to say fuck it and throw it away. Especially after this scene.

It IS a waste of time, no matter what Ryukishi tries to say during the game. Ep8 is made up of nothing but plot armor and arbitrary author decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if Lambda revived during the next screens. Am I correct? I won't read on for some time, since I'm really pissed off at his plot skills.

>>6744591
>>only western users
Are you some hardcore weeaboo or something?
>best rated VNs are those translated
no shit, the voters are western users

>>6744677
>umineko 8 in moon only
durr

>>6744677
Reasons EGS is more trustworthy.
They can rate every VN and can compare.

>>6744681
How is this relevant? You can't have people reading machine translations or knowing the language? I mean, it's obvious people here have read it, right? Otherwise, there wouldn't be so much hate. And those people voted on VNDB

>>6744702
Reasons why it's not:
15 votes

>>6744723
>doujin VN released after 3 days
>extremely rageworthy
>15 votes

>>6744723
EGS has more votes than VNDB for the most part so... I'm not sure what you're trying to imply. By bringing in the number of votes, are you trying to say more=worse? That does kind of work, in a way. The more popular a site is the more overrun with morons it gets

>>6744751
>The more popular a site is the more overrun with morons it gets
but... /jp/ isn't very popular at all yet...

Well, i did not expect an Ange end, i liked it.
But this episode dragged a lot.

>>6744767
It's more crowded than /a/ in 2006, which is fine by me.

What Rokenjima needed, was not detectives, it was a psychologist.

>>6744742
>doujin VN released after 4 years
>255 votes

That's all the fans Umineko has, huh?

>>6744751
More votes = more trustworthy

>More votes = more trustworthy

So... EGS = more trustworthy... and yet that's the opposite of what you said? Oh ok.

>>6744819
>More votes = more trustworthy
More VNs the fanbase can choose from choose from = more trustworthy
A non moonspeaker will read what's translated, without a doubt, even if he drops it, there's a translated>must read
A japanese will just read what he's interested in, there now released>must read mentality.
And they can post reviews on the site so you can exactly know why it's good/bad, which is a good thing.
And vndb has chiru as a whole, not on separate episodes.

>>6744819
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=9173

Code Geass season 2 is a bloody masterpiece, above such boring and pedantic works as Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Gankutsuou, Aria, YKK, 5 cm/s, Mononoke, and Kino's Journey. 4755 votes can't be inaccurate, after all.

>>6744856
>5 cms
Probably it is, it's gthe worst shinkai movie and the only good aprt are the backgrounds and the song, everything else is worse than Geass, that at least managed to be a bit entertaining instead of a rehasg of a rehash.

>>6744856
It is, get your pretentious shit out of /jp/.

There is something I caught up on 2ch during C78: That the "Ryukishi" booth was getting "more terrible" (酷くなる) each time. What kind of "terrible" is that?

Has anyone been there?

>>6744890
Probably full of fujoshi or something.

>>6744836
For Umineko's case, which is the whole point of this thread, not at all

VNDB - 621 votes
EGS EP1 - 255 votes

But I would even say most of EGS aren't even trustworthy, Japan clearly has a bigger VN market than the West, if each famous title doesn't even have more than 1000 votes, it's not even worth considering.

>>6744890
wasn't that the comiket when someone stole his hat and a lot of young people cut in line and generally acted like assholes?

>>6744810
>it was a psychologist.
Yes.
Normally, Seacats should be friendly with eachother.

>>6744856
It is certainly more trustworthy than a situation where only 255 people voted for it

>>6744924
There are thousands eroge released every years.
Japaneses don't have the time to play everything, they only play what cater to them.

And in Egs there are also reviews which are the most important thing, you can actually read why they gave such and such ratings

>>6744930
No wonder he hates his fans

>>6744924
You DO realise that
>umineko no naku koro ni
has more votes in japan, right? VNDB put the first four arcs together, you have to add 1-4 in EGS
>if each famous title doesn't even have more than 1000 votes
Most do, don't worry about that

>>6744951
>you have to add 1-4 in EGS
Why the fuck would you do that?
It's obvious those who voted for 8 would have voted for 1-7

>>6744967
Not necessarily since they come stacked, you can rate 2 without rating 1, because laziness.

>>6744930
>young people cut in line
Can't blame them, </facevalue> if Nanoha sells out before Comiket even opens.

>>6744996
So you are saying the EP8 voters aren't even the usual Umineko voters, that they are simply trolls.

>>6745018
WAY to miss the point.
I meant you can just vote ep7 without voting 5-6.
And by the way, out of 15 votes, it has 12 reviews.
Something vndb will never offer you.

>>6744881
Code Geass is shit though.

>>6745041
While it's a shame that VNDB doesn't offer reviews, having more votes/voices is still a more trustworthy source

>>6745091
Not when the people who votes only read 2-3 VNs.

Ratings are only worth something when you compare them.

I feel partially responsible for this for posting >>6744567

>>6745091
Again read the Geass post.
More votes=shit if the fanbase doesn't have a wider choice/is full of newfags (in case of umineko, a mix of both, mainly the latter)
I eman, one has 283 votes alone for 10, that's as retarded as it can get.
Umineko is the geass of VN in the west, Higurashi was elfen lied.

>>6745120
And alos this.
EGS is sometiimes full of shit, you may or may not agree (more often not) but you know
>the reasons peopel had to give those scores tahnks to reviews
>most of them have a VN basis and have read enough and rate accordingly
This doesn't happen in vndb

Best end right here.

>>6745104
What makes you think people didn't?
Umineko/Chiru is not even that popular on VNDB
Chiru is practically at the bottom of the page in the popularity list

And for EGS, how do you even tell if people read more than 2-3 VNs?

>>6745187
>And for EGS, how do you even tell if people read more than 2-3 VNs?
You can check easily

>>6745120
So basically, you are mad that someone loves the series you hate.

>>6745193
by?

Japs are raging about lack of straightforward answers. That's pretty much it.

People in it for the shipping and characters liked EP8, people in it for the mystery hated EP8. EGS mostly attracts mysteryfags.

I'm thinking the same as you, but out of curiosity, what do you call "plot armor" exactly? An example from the game would be okay.

>>6744652
I'm thinking the same as you, but out of curiosity, what do you call "plot armor" exactly? An example from the game would be okay.
>>6745300
At this level, straightforward answers are not the problem anymore.

>>6744652
(By the way no, but she is revived during the tea party)

>>6745248
There was a straighforward answer: Everything you think you knew is a lie.

Of course you might not like that, but it IS an answer.

>VNDB
>more accurate than EGS

>>6745248
>Japs are raging about lack of straightforward answers. That's pretty much it.

Did you read the comments at all? Nearly all of them complain about the entire series feeling like a waste of time with this conclusion.

>>6745314
What the dick, there is no "inaccurate" here in the first place. Both sites poll the opinion of their respective userbase, and that is accurate. You will always need to know who the userbase is to interpret the ratings, unless you're just out to find ratings that match your personal preference and gloat about it.

>>6745193
Really, if there is a way, please enlighten me. I really want to know what other VNs the voters who rated 10 have read.

At least in VNDB, I can just click on the voters' names and I can see what other work they've read.

>>6745328
>VNDB
>more trustworthy than EGS

Because ryukishi is a hack, im worried Rewrite may end up losing quality thanks to his shit tier writing.

>>6745349
>keyshit
>good
you can't salvage that scrap anyway

>>6745340
And? I happen to think that the Japanese have pretty shitty tastes themselves, so I don't trust them either. Popularity means nothing and polls mean nothing, just look at IMDb.

>>6745357
Whether they have shitty taste or not isn't the question here. And I'm not exactly saying that they have a good taste because EGS represents the mainstream that is IMDB/Anime sites/VNDB, you name it.

EGS is, however, far more trustworthy than VNDB because everyone on there can actually rate and review the games they've played. Unlike VNDB, which relies on the Western community, at least mostly.

Pic is 2ch's top 20 eroge by year

>>6745397
>everyone on there can actually rate and review the games they've played

I hope you mean "can actually play the games they rate and review", because otherwise you're wrong. vndb has a discussion board for every game and you can find reviews there - they are just mostly terrible. But it's the same thing essentially, except that vndb users are more likely to vote based on hearsay or the CG pack of a game; but don't tell me that doesn't happen on EGS too. If you want a popularity rating of translated VNs, that's what vndb gives you, nothing more, nothing less. And that's not so different from EGS, except they have a rating of ALL VNs.

>>6745434
>I hope you mean "can actually play the games they rate and review", because otherwise you're wrong.
Yes, that's what I meant because
>except that vndb users are more likely to vote based on hearsay or the CG pack of a game; but don't tell me that doesn't happen on EGS too.
something like this never occured to me. People really do this or are you just making things up?

>>6745447
Oh I would bet people absolutely do this. I've seen votes on games before they were even released, even. And you can't tell me that out of 11eyes 120 votes, the majority of those don't come from people who just watched the anime.