/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Random events are pretty rad imho

What would I like...

Have the ability to try and pass off lies as truth. Sometimes it will work, and sometimes she will see right through you. But not only that, you gotta keep track of your lies so you don't contradict yourself.

>>6631738
like school days? yeah I liked that because it gets you into the moment
and if you don't like it, you could always save and go back and choose.
but for my first playthrough, always followed through with my immediate decision, even if I got nice boat.

BAD ENDS FOR EVERYONE

SHE KNOWS YOU SAVED THE GAME SO YOU COULD CHOOSE ANOTHER GIRL

Chaos Head delusions.
I wish more games had that option. Another long winded Ange rant about her sad life? CLICK THE TOP CORNER FOR WITCHES FUCKING WITH YOUR SHIT

Is there actually a VN with timed choices, or did you make that up just now?
Because that seems totally silly and downright annoying.

>>6631771

http://vndb.org/g847

>>6631771
I believe Pygmalion had a few timed choices

>>6631771

> Challenge? BUT I HATE WHEN THINGS AREN'T BABBY EASY!

>>6631785
That makes me want to play it even more.

too bad nothing by stronger will ever see a fan translation.

>>6631784
>http://vndb.org/g847
My first VN had times choices apparently. I guess I just forgot.

>>6631771
Sakura Taisen (from 3 onward) had these. ALL THE TIME
Also: percentage bar inputs. How loud a response do you want to make? How hard do you want to hit someone? Usually they're pretty intuitive but it's annoying missing getting a good response because there's a different result for 75% and 100%.

This is probably going to get me lynched but it would be pretty cool if there was a VN which handled text input à la some of the modern text-based adventure games like Galatea.

Also real time tracking like Pokemans would be cool.

>>6631844
You mean like Rune Factory 3, which made it easier to stalk your waifu?

I want:

1) The game to make fun of you if you try to close it in the middle of an h-scene. "Had enough, eh? Oh well, I guess that's your limit, fu fu fu~!"

2) The game to make fun of you when you save just before making a decision. The save menu cuts away when you try to open it, you get a closeup of the heroine's disgruntled face and a complaint from her instead. "Hey, what are you doing? I'm asking you a question! Gosh, is it so hard to let me know how you're feeling?"

3) Third person perspectives, rather than first person perspectives. Sprites would be facing quarter-profile towards each other, like Fire Emblem sprites or some shit like that. This would force the protag to have a proper face and it would provide a more dynamic view for sprite-based scenes, which make up the bulk of VN content.

>>6631790
Challenge? What are you talking about?
An interactive book is still a book at heart.
You're there for the story, not for gameplay gimmicks.

>>6631852
> 1) The game to make fun of you if you try to close it in the middle of an h-scene. "Had enough, eh? Oh well, I guess that's your limit, fu fu fu~!"
oh my god this is brilliant

More gameplay in visual novels? No thanks.

I'd like to see more decisions for H-scenes so that you can tailor them to your preferred foreplay/positions/inside or outside, stuff like that.

>>6631852

The first would be annoying if you were trying to close it when someone entered. They would hear that and know you were up to SOMETHING.

The second is okay by Craig's rules. Let the fact that you saved just before affect the outcome as well.

The third will never happen a whole lot. Most people like to forget that there is a protagonist. They want to BE the protagonist, and that would break the immersion. That's why it doesn't happen much, and why you don't usually see their face in H-scenes.

Chaos;Head had timed choices? Which part?

>>6631852
>1) The game to make fun of you if you try to close it in the middle of an h-scene. "Had enough, eh? Oh well, I guess that's your limit, fu fu fu~!"

Or even better, have the heroine's face be like Irisu when you lose focus.

"Had enough, eh? Oh well, I guess that's your limit, fu fu fu~!"

>>6631928
>>6631852
So when the game crashes during a sex scene do I get to make fun of it when I run it next time?

Kinect and voice recognition. I want to be the anime.

A VN that isn't anime/manga styled.

>>6631852
in schoolmate 2 when you close it instead of asking "are you sure" it asks if you masturbated, if you say yes she says "I thought so fufufu"
I personally thought schoolmate 2 wasn't complete shit, served its purpose

>>6631885

1) Addendum: "Or could it be that there's someone watching us, onii-chan? You know, I wouldn't mind...but I guess you're too shy!"

3) Yeah, I feel the same way about this as I do about the silent protagonist in classic JRPGs. I get that the point might be to make the player the protag, but I would prefer a protag who is fleshed out and not quite like me than a completely silent Link or Crono. Since the player is still driving the choices, I think it's perfectly okay to give the protag's lines some personality and flesh him out with a distinct appearance. Hell, it works well enough in Type Moon works, which flesh out their protagonist characters and give them sprites despite using a first person perspective. I think it could work out well.

Kanon's Yuuichi had a lot of personality, and he was a total hoot. That guy was awesome. I would love to see more of the same.

>>6631952

Wait for another fifty years, I think they'll have a brain implant that makes you able to be in a virtual reality of your choice, including an anime world where that shit is possible.

In real life, you're on your couch. When you 'sleep', you disconnect, eat, take a dump and hook back up.

>>6631928

Being taunted by Ilya is an instant re-boner.

>>6632009

"... or could it be that there's someone watching us, onii-chan? You know, I wouldn't mind...but I guess you're too shy!"

>>6631981

That's why they have VR cafes. IVs and waste processing, you never need to log out!

>>6631852
I think Nitro+ has a few games in third person perspective.

>>6632014
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>>6632034

"... are you really going to leave me here, after getting me all ready? How can you be so cruel? I may be a girl, but I have needs, you know..."

"W-well, that was...rather swift. I mean - efficient. It...it's really just about a mana transfer after all, isn't it? Ah...hah..."

>>6631815
LIPS were introduced in the first Sakura Taisen, from the SS version.

"...Nii-san, what exactly are you thinking? Have you considered how your dear little sister feels at this very important time? I've been waiting for this a long time, you know - well, not quite THIS, though."

>>6632125
>(1.61 MB, 3000x4000)

"Uwah~! That was fast! D-does that mean I did it right? A-am I a good girl?"

>>6632142
Did this really happen?

>>6632142
Too forward, you need to be more subtle otherwise it's just off-putting.

"I guess all you can do is peep and steal panties after all! Looks like your other head's a baka too! Baka baakaaa~!"

"You've gotta be squidding me."

Oh fine, it'd be wrong to expect anymore from someone tainted by weak human blood.

"...isn't it sad?"

>>6632212
YOU KNOW I SAID I WOULDN'T CRY!

but goddamn.

"S-shiki...sama...it may not...be my place to, um, say this, but...the synchronization process requires more...time."

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>>6632269

Aw geez, Reimu, you don't have to be such a stiff.

"W-what? Y-you convinced me to do... to do THIS, and you just finish, just like that?! Gah, why did I even agree to this? I'm so embarassed I could die..."

"I, Astal Sion, approve of this thread!"

>>6632269
I loled at some of them

Your doing God's work, Anon. Keep it up.

I want Kohaku

>>6632335

My body isn't ready.

I find it funny that the "What would you want new in a VN" thread became "What should the girl say to you when you close out during an H-scene"

Anyways, I work for an indie gaming company and we're trying to make VNs more popular over here in the states by making them more accessible.
We already have our own VN engine that's relatively easy to port other VNs into, and a few of your suggestions really wouldn't be that hard to implement.

I'm just wondering how many of you would ACTUALLY like to see these either in future games?

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"No, that will never do! You won't impress a woman with an outlook like that! You need to take them in your arms, like this, and you need to tell them that you want them! That you NEED them! Now I want you to leave the room, come back in and take me like a real man!"

Love Hina for the GBA had timed choices. That sure was fun.

Also, I forgot

>>6632212

Damn you for making me remember! T~T

>>6632414
Elements like timed choices can make a significant difference IMO, and it's not just about making the games more accessible. Think of RPGs like Fallout that let you choose your own path through the story: regardless of how simple or complex the decisions are, the fact that you can interact with the environment gives you the illusion that each of your decisions makes a difference to the game. If you weave elements like that into a visual novel you might be able to make the player think twice before clicking rather than saving first and knowing that it won't make a difference.

>>6632414
Eh, I don't know. I find it funny to think about, but I don't think it would add too much for me.

What I would love instead is the ability to use custom music for any h-scene I come across. Others might replace things with Yakety Sax, but I would definitely go for using Emiya for maximum oddity.

>>6632414

Think of it like the quirks in the Metal Gear series. All the gimmicky shit the games pulled by reading into stuff you did that you didn't expect it to read into was what made the game really memorable rather than an ordinary top-down action-espionage game.

Doing goofy shit like breaking the fourth wall now and then can go a long way in making your work stand out among others. Players come for the main course, but they remember the side dishes more than anything else.

I see. I won't try to derail this thread too much but everyone at our company has either intuitively thought of "subtle interaction" or wanted it in their game.
But let me tell you the relation between the amount of those you put in (x) and how long it takes to complete the writing for a game is roughly:
(Amount of regular plot choices) to the power of (x)

So, we can EASILY do that shit with our engine, but it puts massive stress on our writers.
(This'll be the last post from me plugging our work unless someone has questions)


>>6632476
Emiya huh?
I'm more a Sakura man, and nowhere near GAR ENOUGH FOR ARCHER.
I'd go with New Dawn 2.

As for the idea itself, really rather hard to implement. Might be workable, but would require major overhauls.

I would like to see dialog trees where you can ask people stuff, then say "hang on, I have another thing I want to say" and say another thing, have conversations more interactive, like Planescape Torment or something.

Rarely do you get lots of choices of what to say in a vn, Casual Romance Club did a good job with this, as did Galaxy Angel but most VNs only give you the choice of what to do, not say.

"Do you really have to go or did your Mystic Eyes of Death Perception accidentally kill your boner?"

>>6632601
Shiki can kill boners. Discuss.

>>6632618
Apparently, Shiki's boner killing ability has scared everyone away from this thread.

>>6632720

"Hey, you can't leave me like this! I know that sometimes I can be scary, but I promise not to be rough for the next few minutes at least... fu fu fu~!"

>>6632736
Stop doing this.

>>6632747

"Oh, it's alright. I'm not disappointed, just... I didn't know you would finish quite this fast... yeah, you can go clean up..."

I'd like to see more animated h scenes like in school days

>>6632581
but that kind of thing actually makes conversations less interctive. with your standard dialogue characters can interrupt each other and things can go back and forth pretty quickly. with the bioware style character A asks a question, then character B gives an answer, then character A asks another question, and so on. it ends up sounding really unnatural, like you're at a lecture instead of having a casual conversation. just look at the picture you posted. does anyone actually talk like that?

Screencapped.

>>6632900
that was epic, epic for ween.

>>6632900

I don't know why you went to the trouble, but damn man. That's devotion.

Since when did rp get allowed on /jp?

>>6632929
It is not allowed. But this is not "real RP", still is shit though.

>>6632929

It stayed in the spirit of /jp/, so it is cool.

>>6632929
Since meido left us.

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>>6632953
lol

>>6632964
xD

She'll never come back.

>>6632915
I was hoping that the kind anon who was rp would make him say something

>>6633007

Sorry, busy fapping with the fury of a thousand suns.

"Geez, you're just going to leave me like this? And I thought this was going to be something special..."

>>6632900

Fuckin saved.

I'm glad I took part, what little it was.

"So that's all you're worth, ey Emiya? I knew I was better than you, and now I have the proof."

"so that's the infamous gae blog huh? i thought i would have been bigger and maybe a bit more fierce. It didn't even break my rho anus completely."

Posting in an epic thread.

>>6634246
This, it could not be more epic win. More win than a dvd player if you know what I mean. I mean is epic win guy the OP? Winbix.

>>6634263

You a little mad.

autism...

>>6634762

Late much?

"Hey, /jp/...

... isn't it sad?"

>>6634770

I'm late. But I always have conflicting feelings about options in VNs. On the one hand I like being able to impact the story, on the other hand I hate replaying things I've seen before.

Personally what I've not seen enough of, is good and helpful story trees, showing which paths you've done, and perhaps allowing you to kick-start into a new path by just choosing it, skipping all repetition.

That, and I want my shit bi-lingual so I have both Japanese text, furigana and translation all at once. (Something translation aggregator does well, but I find annoying when it is outside the screen, or when clicking next hides it because the game takes focus)

>>6636637

On the issue of routes and repetition, I think Fate/Stay Night does something right by making the routes branch off from each other very early in the story, so that there is as little repetition from one to the other as possible.