/jp/ - Otaku Culture

"I'll do it tomorrow"

That's deep, bro.

I'M SPENDING MY TIME
WATCHING THE DAYS GO BYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>Another day of failing to complete even the basic tasks I set out for myself...

Learn to take it easy, bro. You won't have this problem anymore.

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
Fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
And you are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say

BREATHE REPRISE
Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
And when I come home cold and tired
It’s good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spells.

Low standards are the key to happiness!

If you're enjoying yourself then why does it matter? If not, then do something about it. faggot

>>6238605

That's something you don't hear everyday around these parts.

Just washing it aside,
all of this helplessness inside.
Pretending I don't feel misplaced,
is so much simpler than shame.

It's easier to run.
Replacing this pain with something numb.
It's so much easier to go,
than face all this pain here all alone.

Oh please boo hoo, if you wanted to not miss opportunities you would leave you damn house and try to accomplish something. You're exactly where you want to be. Stop acting like you have no influence on the situation you're in while lamenting the lack possibilities that you yourself are unwilling to create.

>>6238616
This.
Some time ago I wanted to feel superior to people, by watching tons of movies, reading tons of books and studying. But then I realized I'm a worthless piece of shit and was afraid of accepting it. Now that I accepted it I'm a happy man that nows how to chill and do only what's really necessary.

Oh god, I just realized...

Every day I've done nothing but /jp/, but...winter is coming up, and I started this phase last Christmas...

Chin up, kid.

>>6238625
The reverse sounds just as stupid.

Durr hurr carpe diem, just pick yourself up by the bootstraps and create your own opportunities! Believe in yourself and reach for the stars and go out and make your dreams happen!

So easy to regurgitate that tripe, but this isn't a Hollywood movie.

>>6238625
Well, I do leave my house and stuff, but I'm still a NEET and I've been actively looking for a job since last summer...

this is why society will crumble...

I was so optimistic about this year. I was, like, 'FUCK YEAH YEAR OF THE TIGER UP IN THIS SHIT' and had about a dozen resolutions.

Of course I burnt out after about a week and I've left the house about once every two weeks to collect my welfare payments since then. I didn't fulfill any of my New Year's recessions either.

>>6238656
>New Year's recessions
I heard you like Freudian slips.

let the suckers caught up in the system support you. yukkuri shiteitte ne.

>>6238671
My problem is that I live in the UK and the government is probably about to slash the welfare system wholesale and I'll be left on the street probably.

I can't take it easy without the internet. It's my opiate.

>>6238647
I think both are wrong.
If you start doing anything to change your life, things may happen or not. If you won't do anything, things will not happen period. And that's it. You guys really should stop tripping all the time.

>>6238671
Americunt detected. It's not that easy taking advantage of the government everywhere, sonny.

>>6238656
Good thing our government protects us from autism by not giving any welfare to anyone except for actual cripples. Thanks to that I'm getting an engineering degree soon and thinking about starting a small business.

another day refreshing websites

another day playing video games

another day fappan

good times

>>6238683
I'm not even autistic. I'm perfectly fine with being sociable. I just don't have anyone to talk to and I come into contact with nobody who I give a fuck about. I just don't have anything else to do.

>>6238684
Indeed. Good thing some people here know how to relax properly.

>>6238677
Honestly I wish I was tripping more. Stupid American government, making LSD illegal and not giving out free handouts.

Bakkoi thread?

Bakkoi thread.

>>6238647
You should be realistic, of course. But having a positive attitude really is extremely important. It makes a huge difference in terms of what you can achieve, if only because when you fail at first (or after many times) you'll still have the nerve to brush yourself off and continue, instead of giving up after making a few half-assed attempts and going back to looking up dirty pictures on danbooru and masturbating.

Worry not. It is said that upon a year and a day of browsing /jp/, if you are deemed worthy, you will wake up in a grandiose mansion as a pristine young maiden and be accepted to the sisterhood of /jp/. A slightly older girl will help you adjust to your new life, always taking care of you with a gentle smile. You will play and converse all day, with her translating VNs for you as you play and helping you with patterns in Touhou and Dodonpachi, and after the sun sets you'll get eat her delicious cooking. After taking a bath together, where she combs your hair and washes you thoroughly, it will be time to go to bed, and she will teach you the pleasures of being a woman until no trace of your former personality remains and all that is left is a pure, yuri-obsessed girl yearning for her onee-sama's warm touch.

Surely you all will be accepted one day.

>>6238695
It's hard to keep a positive attitude when you get rejected everywhere you apply to work for three months continuously, and you can't do much more than scrape by with the money you do get while unemployed.

No amount of positive thinking is going to get me a job. I've given up.

>>6238703
What field are you looking in?

>>6238713
Any one that will take me, but after applying to LITERALLY hundreds of places (I kept track) I never got so much as an interview from anyone that wasn't doing one of those bogus door-to-door sales jobs for nothing but a 5% commission on something you're never going to be able to sell.

I've tried different approaches, I've tried phoning, I've tried emailing, I've tried snail mail, I've tried turning up at the place of work in a suit, I've answered god knows how many vacancy advertisements online and in newspapers, I've varied my approaches, I've rewritten my resume dozens of times, I've written dozens of covering letters.

None of it works. Even fucking McDonalds wants people with a year's experience in exactly the same position. Anywhere I do qualify for (not that I only apply to places that I'm qualified for) I don't get considered anyway. People's cousins get the job instead.

>>6238729
Now I'm motivated for life!

>>6238729

Well...fuck. And here I was thinking "I need a job, how hard can it be to find one?"

>>6238729
Has it really gotten so bad?

Try a small mom & pop restaurant or cafe. They usually take applications even if they're not listing want ads anywhere, and they generally hire whoever. My first jobs were all at those kind of places. They're awesome to work at too usually, more lax than corporatized chain places.

Work there for a year then you can get a better paying job like Starbucks, another place I recommend.

Has anyone thought about self-asserting by means of writing some code from home? It may be really tough to create a good game, but it's relatively easy to look into more serious area which is in demand like image processing and make something worthwhile. You can even make a buck on it by selling it on Appstore or some other shop.

>>6238750
Whether you'll be able to get one varies by so many factors (location is the most obvious one) that letting this stop you from even trying is really dumb.

>>6238757
I've done that too.
Not as glamorous as you'd think. Might as well try it if you have nothing else to do.

>>6238755
I've tried that. Unlike the faceless big companies, they usually deign to inform me that they're 'not looking for anyone at the moment' or if they're advertising, that they have 'another candidate who is more capable for this position.' I never really know if they're telling the truth or not. It doesn't really matter, does it? At the end of the day I'm still on the breadline.

I even signed up with an employment agency to try and get temp work that I could use to ladder myself up to a real, full-time position. They kept putting me in for jobs that were completely unrelated to my skill set...I can't fucking code Java or any of the shit they were signing me up for but they just told me that if I didn't go to the interviews they were picking out for me I wouldn't be able to get a job with them. Predictably I didn't get anywhere there.

Become your own boss. Sell CP.

>>6238768
Not trying to be insulting, but what can you do? What are your qualities?

If you can't program, go learn it, I'd say. Everything you need to learn is at your fingertips.

>>6238771
Jack shit. I've been signing up for accounting apprenticeships and trainee courses in various white-collar stuff and I have had as much success with that as I have with getting an unskilled job. There are training courses I can be guaranteed a place on in those areas; but they are ones where the cost won't be covered by the company do it, so I'm shit out of luck as usual because I can't afford it.

I mean...shit, what's the point in learning a programming language? More than likely they'll just want me to have a qualification in it and I'll lose out to everyone who does have an accredited qualification in it and I'll still get nowhere. It'd drive me to drinking but I have to run a tight ship with my finances just to stay fed and keep up on my rent, so there's no way I could afford to do that.

>>6238768
Kind of weird. I got my first job at a restaurant without even trying. Long-haired stoner with no experience, probably had red eyes at the time. The owner barely even looked at me and hired me on the spot.

>>6238764
One of my few acquaintances is doing this for about a year. Basically, he gets some articles from ACM and other sources which have not been patented, picks a few which give impressive effect and are simple to implement makes an app and puts some simple controls atop of it. I have no idea how well it sells, but he's not starving, that's for sure.

>>6238796
And if all else fails, just become like Kimmo, and go into cybercrime.

>>6238762

I'm obviously not going to give up before trying (I can't anyway I really need money). But it's saddening hearing that kinds of experience and thinking "what if that happens to me?" Then again lets see how it works out.

>>6238821
Even given my experiences I wouldn't advise you to give up before you've started. Maye they'll like your face, or maybe you'll live somewhere where there are actual jobs.

As for me, I have to be interviewed by the welfare people pretty much every time I go to get my money. It gets more stringent every time. I expect a few months down the line they'll decide I can't claim it anymore and I'll be left on the street.

I don't think it would be appropriate to let this thread drift towards another suicide thread so I'll just stop talking on that tangent.

>>6238803
I'm sorry

dammit /jp/

i was having a good day

Write an essay, and keep writing/editing it until you think it's good. Show it to someone. Paint a painting, and keep painting on it until you think it's good. Hang it on your wall. Or whatever, really. Perhaps you'll feel good about it? Make something, and it'll turn into an embodiment of your 'precious' time spent. Take care of it, and it won't disappear. You don't have to be super creative as long as you have your feelings. Creationism, ho!

I feel like I've wasted my time as well OP. I figure I'm just going to bite the bullet and go full weeaboo and start learning Japanese. Maybe in five years I'll be accomplished enough in it not to feel bad.

>>6238868
Oh look, another tripper.

>>6238852
The world of /jp/ is full of bakkoi!

My first and only job was at a hospital food tray line, a little over a year ago. The only reason I got it was because one of my only friends' dad is in a high position in the hospital. It was really fast paced because the supervisors were of course trying to improve efficiency as much as possible and there were so many things to remember and keep track of that it got really frustrating at times, especially as a first job. My coworkers were mostly middle aged black women who, while nice enough, I was unable to relate to, so I usually felt pretty isolated. Eventually, I started to get used to it all as it became a routine, but what was worst was the loss of time. The schedule was arbitrary and I would get time off at random times during the week. The concept of weekends vanished and everything started to blend together. I ended up working both Thanksgiving and Christmas, but by that point I had more or less stopped caring.
In a combination of truly bad luck and stupidity on my part, I caught a cold multiple times and missed several days. The hospital had a no tolerance policy for new hires during their first 90 days, so a day or so after I came back in I was called into my supervisor's office and pretty much told it was over. After that, I didn't go back. I didn't even call or give them a notice of resignation. I was too burned out of the job to work another two weeks and I was too afraid to call my supervisor, which made me feel even worse during those weeks after I stopped going.
I'm afraid of looking for another job, I'm afraid of being hired again, I'm afraid of working again. I'm afraid I'll just fail again.

>>6238875
It shouldn't take you more than about 6 months to a year to become proficient, if you actually work at it.

Invested finally ~20 000 pix in stocks (Nokia, Danisco, Fortum, Norske Oil, Ericsson & Ixonos) after hesitating too long on shifting my savings to make more money, feels good.

Looking forward to another great year.

>>6238868

>Start drawing
>get bored after 5 minutes and check 4chan
>wake up the next day at 4PM wondering what the fuck happened

>>6238880
I'm looking up resources right now. Found a few if anyone else is interested.

http://www.archive.org/download/Fsi-JapaneseFast-StudentText/Fsi-JapaneseFast-StudentText.pdf
http://www.mangolanguages.com/lesson/view/3
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Subject:Japanese_language

Places to find people:
http://www.italki.com/
livemocha.com
lang-8.com

I'll find better stuff as I dig further today.

>>6238878
Bakkoi is a happy thing! Take your Hatetate elsewhere!

>>6238887
Story of my life.

>>6238868
What is this creativity? /jp/ has none.

>>6238887
Stick to a single thread. You'll F5 it occasionally, but eventually it'll die and you can do other things in between half-hearted attempts to revive it.

I think before anyone on here can get around to doing anything you should get yourself banned from 4chan.

Except then there's still the archive...

>>6238887
I wish I could sleep until 4PM but my younger sister won't let me.

>>6238923
The ghosts of banned anons simply haunt the archive. There is no release. None.

>>6238933
Until Eksopl finally pulls the plug, which isn't far away.

Gotta make sure to save all the threads I still wanted to check before that happens.

>>6238923
How do I get myself banned from 4chan? It's like a leech on my brain that makes time fast forward to 3 AM

>>6238944
Find a way to put a password on accessing this website, and then throw away the password.

>>6238923
That's the easy way out. You need to be STRONG! and just close the window and do something else.

>>6238957

I don't even realize what I'm doing before it's too late. I get tired and subconsciously open it up and start browsing. I don't even realize what happened until 2 hours later when I have a headache and can't do anything for the rest of the day

it's an awful habit I'd love to kick

>>6238957
fuck, just now I was just going to look up a reference, and I went and clicked here to see what happened without even thinking. 10 minutes later i realize i've wasted time. that's how bad it is. I need shock treatment

>>6238957
>something else
If I had something else to do I wouldn't be on /jp/. Trust me.

I came back to university for the new year the other day to hear someone I talk to secured one of those £70k starting jobs at an investment bank. Other one did an internship at a hedge fund. Feels bad. All I'm good at is studying, which is useless as fuck in the real world.

>>6238944
Post something that gets you autobanned. For example, post a link to Final Solution.

>>6238993
>>6239005
>>6239041
No excuses!
Tonight, before you go to bed, remove 4chan from your favorites or delete the shortcut or whatever. Don't come here for all of tomorrow. You can still use the computer and internet, but DO NOT GO TO 4CHAN. Read a VN, play some games, look for something interesting on youtube/nico, just DO NOT GO TO 4CHAN, no matter what. Write yourself a note and stick it to your monitor if you have too.
You CAN do it, anonymous.

>>6239094
No, bro. What I mean is, I only come here when I'm really bored. I'm doing the things you mentioned most of the time, but I don't see how they're better than browsing /jp/ anyway.

>>6238877
If finding a hobby of some "value" makes you a tripper, then okay. There's nothing wrong with that; though it's not so different from coding or whatever is commercially regarded as a smart time investement.

>>6238887
Cool, you tried. Try it again sometime, maybe it'll turn out better? And while you're on the interwebs, check out some drawing tutorials or whatever, hang out at out at the OC threads here or anything similar. Perhaps you'll get some inspiration?

Or try something else. Do you like music? You can try making your own. I recommend Reason 4, but there are lots of alternatives; check out some introduction write-ups to get you started.

Just because you gave up that one day, no matter how many seperate times, it doesn't mean you've given up forever.

Do you dislike the idea of investing a shitload of time just to get become a decent amateur? Maybe you've spent a shitload of time on 4chan already, then you should be an experienced time-invester, i.e. good patiens, even if you don't realize it yet.

Wasted time isn't wasted unless you're 100% positive you can't utilize the results of it in whichever way. You don't have to regard your time spent in the most reasonable fashion, take whatever stance you can think of, as long as you can make something of it. That "something" doesn't even have to be valuable from a general perspective, as long as you as an individual can find some lasting joy in it.

Tripping positivism, ho!

>>6239111
Rest of your post is fine, but how the hell does "spends time on 4chan" turn into "patient?"

>>6239005
You're being hysterical. If you keep counting every minute of your life, you won't be able to make any good experiences or memories. Sometimes you just need to change your thinking, without over-thinking of course. As someone else mentioned earlier it's easy to shout out "karpe diem" or whatever and expect you'll do just that as long as you think about it hard enough. The expression "karpe diem" won't make any sense unless you know its true meaning, or in some sense learn its prospects. Giving guidelines on this subject isn't easy since we're all individual. The "answer" for some might turn into a disaster for others. In your case, perhaps the mentality telling you not to waste time is harming you?

>>6239132
>patience
Derp, sorry about that.

I've thought about it for a while, and I've come to the realization that it's not 4chan's fault I keep coming back. "Of course" you'll say, and that it is my own fault, and that is true, but my point is there is nothing about 4chan itself that triggers this in me. What happens is whatever I feel I 'need' to do, when I get bored with it or feel I need a break, I come here, and I keep talking here, because I simply enjoy talking with you people too much.

That's just the problem, really. It's too much fun to talk with people on here. And another reason for that is perhaps our lack of social contact through other means.

Throughout what I'm doing, when I'm doing something that is, I often go here for a short while (or so I plan at first) to pass some time as a little break. But you always end up talking here the whole day because it's more fun than doing work.

If I had to visit the rest of 4chan, for example, I wouldn't even come anymore. If I had to visit /a/ to pass the time I would rather just not go there and do something else, because that place is simply no fun to browse, while this place is.

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an off hand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
And racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
And shorter of breath and one day closer to death

Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say

This thread makes me wonder; does anyone have the procrastination-before-masturbation syndrome? Like, when you're completely ready to do something, but you want to do that lil' fap session before, just to feel you fully harnessed your time or whatever, but then you keep on procrastinating even to masturbate for some odd reason and ends up doing nothing?
Man, that sucks.

>>6239194
By the way, I'm having this problem right now.

>>6239179
>Confessions of an anon
Not making fun of you, it's just cute.

Try chatting on irc; you'll get so miserable and shit tiered of the prospect of talking to anyone on the internet ever again.

>>6239194
No. I wish I could manage that; not fapping makes fapping much better.

>>6239194

I only masturbate when there's nothing better to do.

So, no.

>>6239193
Sorry, someone already beat me to posting this at the begging of the thread.

>>6239201
I used to talk on IRC all the time, and often spent all-nighters because of it. Then at one point I decided it was not worth it, I didn't really "gain" anything by hanging in the chatroom all the time, and was just wasting time and it fucked up my sleeping schedule. So after that I Quit IRC Forever and regained part of my life. Now there's still 4chan left.

>>6239206
>I only masturbate when there's nothing better to do.
And that's exactly my problem, good sir. There's nothing better than masturbating.

>>6239221

huh?
We're different in that case.

I don't really enjoy masturbating that much, I do it only as a necessity .

I don't even masturbate anymore. The last time I masturbated was when I was 17, three years ago.

>>6239228
>necessity
It is hardly a necessity.

>>6239228
You'll probably enjoy it more if you stop thinking of it as a necessity.

>>6239228
Are you kidding me..?
Well, I wish I was you, then.

I don't masturbate too often, and it's usually in bursts. So I would masturbate one day, the next and the day after, and then not feel like doing it again for a week or so. Then other times I do it several times a day.

>>6239235

It is when you spend too much time without doing it.

Ever since I noticed that I masturbate when I'm depressed and cut that shit out, I've been much happier.

>>6239235
Prostate cancer, anyone?

>>6239257
You lost me.

How to get things done in life:

1. Not be depressed
A. Eat the right foods
B. Exercise
C. Do things you like (even 4chan) in moderation

2. Find some sort of daily routine
A. Put time aside for things that must be done (exercise, schoolwork, hygine).
B. Find time for things you want to do (Learn, read, etc.)

3. Find a hobby
A. Learn a language
B. Learn a skill
C. Create something

4. Socialize
1. Tell people about what you're doing
2. They will offer advice
3. Improve on what you're doing

Repeat the last two for the rest of your life and you'll be surprised how far it takes you. Of course you'll want to take things like classes eventually, but it's a good starting point.

>>6238601

>>6239216
Hmm, we're different in that case. I feel shit about it even when I meet good people. I have a feeling it brings out the worst in me. More so than posting on message board like this. There's something about quick chat that really bothers me.