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It's shit right?

It was boring for touhou fans, it will be boring for non-touhou fans. It was generic, poorly drawn, and far too slow, even for a first episode.

It's one episode, you dick-slurping tripfag. You can't call it boring.

>>6202045
You can because there will never be a second episode, so its the entire season in 20 minutes.

It was mind-numbingly boring, it's like a bunch of bored people watching slice of life from the point of view of boring people, the show itself already asumes you know the characters so it doesn't make any kind of introduction/development and just drags on with slow talk and a couple asspull spellcards

Also it's so poorly drawn that it bothers even people used to ZUN's earlier artstyle

>Touhou
>non-mainstream

Oh yeah i forgot that not all people live in Japan....

It was really boring, but the art wasn't that bad at all considering it was all done by a single person.

Shame on you, /jp/.

>Also it's so poorly drawn that it bothers even people used to ZUN's earlier artstyle
What the fuck? Are you retarded?

>>6202040

sort of this really. For fans you could sort of appreciate some of the ideas they tried, but then get really fucking annoyed at how misplaced some of the characters are... I mean Marisa is playing the straight man to Reimu and Aya.

I can't imagine it interesting non-fans too much unless it really kicks off the incident with something more interesting then looking about and gets some spell card duels and bullshit going on.

Right now it's a step above a nico video. Maybe that's what they were going for.

>>6202100
He jus jelly

Is it just me or is some of the from the original trailer better looking? Serious looking Yuyuko here.

>>6202086
It seems to be a typical trend on /jp/ to have increasingly negative opinions of things as a whole as time goes on. This can be seen with a lot of formerly beloved things like FSN. People were a lot more positive about this episode when it was released, with a lot of "shockingly it doesn't suck" comments.

Of course, it could be a different set of anons and our original friends have already moved/passed on...;_;

>>6202086
The art was the least of it's problems. Touhou (at least as far as canon is concerned) has a fair amount to do with action, conflict, and typically supernatural incidents.

The anime provides us with 22 minutes of very slow paced conversation, silly jokes, fanon personalities, and a very lack luster confrontation between reimu and patchouli.

The only reason I watched it was because of Mai Nakahara.

The "anime" was utter shit.

>>6202112
your logic is stupid and you should feel bad for it. Different people have different tastes, things will be evaluated properly after some time instead of judging it right away.

It's like when you see a movie for the first time and think "this is fucking awesome" and then after a couple of years you realize how shitty it was or how many bad points it has.

>>6202140
As a matter of fact, I don't think like that. Even if I cease to be interested, I still make sure to remember the enthusiasm I had when I first loved it. Recently there has been more and more disgruntled anime fans starting to hate on what they used to love; it's a shame.

Right now I'm talking about first impressions. It doesn't matter whether people will look back on it to see the flaws. The only thing that matters is whether it'd be too boring for first-time viewers in a casual laid-back setting or would it stand out as way more boring than other random animes shown.

Why did they change Reimu's design? She used to be so much sexier looking...

>>6202108

>Why did they change Reimu's design? She used to be so flawed and droopy...

Its double boring, its not interesting as a "touhou anime", and its not interesting as the closest other genre of anime, slice of life. People who like touhou at least know who the hell everyone is and can understand some of the jokes, but to a non-touhoufriend, its inside jokes wrapped in boring. It isnt hard to understand.

>>6202112

It's common knowledge that /jp hates everything, even /jp.

>>6202021
I fucking hate toohoo and everything it stands for.
Maikaze's anime was fucking awesome. Watched that ep like a million times. Art, animation, vocals, characters/personalities, fighting, everything was such high quality and fit together flawlessly. The atmosphere is great. I'd say it was refreshing. It looks and sounds much more natural than any other anime these days, actually any anime period.

While one could make an argument for it not being drawn well, I feel there's more to it that that. At the risk of sounding cliche, it has character. It feels like you could reach out and touch it.

>>6202104
Reactions like these make it lively and fun, while they dont really take focus away from what's going on. Rather than requiring some kind of silly joke, they follow naturally to what's already there, seamlessly integrated.

I could rave about it for hours, seriously.
Regardless of it being toohoo or not, you can see the creators took great care making it and put a lot of work into it. I do like some of the characters though, so I guess that helped, although that's more what they evolved to be than what Zun might have intended them to be.

>>6202202
0/10

>>6202212
if you think im an idiot for liking it, go ahead, i dont care. hell i probably am. im not going to stop liking it because /jp/ tells me to though.

I dont feel so socially insecure that i need to hate on everything.

>>6202217
I agree with >>6202212

0/10
You're trying much too hard, and it's painfully obvious you're trolling.
Tone it down a bit.

>>6202233
If that's what you wanna think we'll just leave it at that.

In any case I'd like to recommend OP to just try and see.
Anyone who can appreciate a well made anime that isnt too serious should not be bored.

>Art
Was bad, extra fingers sure is quality
>animation
Was bad. Reimu walking towards the camera in the library looked terrible, mouths stopping movement during scenes where the character was talking is dreadful
>vocals
Actually pretty good, though I would have liked some kind of distinguishing features for Suika and Aya, being they are both different species
>characters/personalities
Fanon shit. Sleepy meiling? Pervert Aya? Generic meido Sakuya? Yep, thats all new and refreshing. They couldnt even get Marisa's personality right, as someone else pointed out.
>fighting
Uninspired.
>everything was such high quality and fit together flawlessly
Keep thinking that.

>>6202249
Sakuya being a good maid is fanon shit? What?

>>6202249
>Art
>Was bad, extra fingers sure is quality
Did you ever bother looking at more than just the characters?
I should add I didnt notice the fingers because I generally tend to see the bigger picture. If it's true, point for you.

>animation
>Was bad. Reimu walking towards the camera in the library looked terrible, mouths stopping movement during scenes where the character was talking is dreadful
So there was that, other than that I think animation looks more natural than most shit out there today. You may disagree, I don't care.

>characters/personalities
>Fanon shit. Sleepy meiling? Pervert Aya? Generic meido Sakuya? Yep, thats all new and refreshing. They couldnt even get Marisa's personality right, as someone else pointed out.
I prefer fanon. Canon is ass.

>fighting
>Uninspired.
Yet well animated and not overly serious, didnt seem to be serious in the story either.

Nice to have spoken to you, but it's 2 AM in my timezone so I'm going to bed.
I welcome anyone to keep replying 0/10 or whatever, this thread will surely have died by the time I wake up anyway.

>>6202249
Sleepy Meiling is also canon. Fanon just exaggerates it.

>Meiling being lazy is uncanon
また、妖怪の中では異常に人間くさく、門番をしている時に話しかけても、
世間話をしたり愚痴を聞かされたりする。
>She is unusually human-like for a youkai, and if you talk to her while she is on the job, she will idly chat or complain.

言葉では脅したりするが、無理失理門を破ろうとしない限り襲ってくる事は
殆ど無い。
>She may threaten you with words, but as long as you don't try to destroy the gate she almost never attacks.

昼間に紅魔館を見てみたら、門番が寝ていた　（匿名）
>"When I glanced at the Scarlet Devil Mansion at noon, the gate guard was sleeping." (Anonymous)

Maikaze's anime was terrible no matter how you look at it.

ITT, People complaining about the quality of a doujin anime not made with a big budget

Low budget animation IS a legitimate complaint

ｄｅｌ

>>6202612
Except not.

>>6202612
Im not complaining about the animation. I was more bothered by the beta touhou character designs.

Oh, completely forgot about this thread. I kind of want to show this just to guage the number of Touhou fans present in the first place though, just to send out a signal of "I like Touhou!"...

The whole time I was watching it I was thinking, "This would be incredibly boring for non-fans and probably many fans as well." It set my fears at ease.

>>6204123
Go back to your naruto, faggot. The show was good, for an opening. Still, those character designs, this the 90s anymore.

>>6204123
GB2 your naruto faggot. The show was good, for an opening. Still, those character designs, this isnt the 90s anymore.

>>6204132
Shut the fuck up, the character designs were great, one of the best things out of the show.

What sucked was the generic opening, the slice of life setting, the horrible "comedy", etc. Standard bad anime garbage.

>>6204132
It's true! In the original trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8NzFHtdZjA you can see that they clearly intended to have much more action scenes, with Master Spark and Sakuya's Gate of Gensokyo and Youmu Slash. And the character designs for some characters were different too, as seen in >>6202112 and
>>6202162

I really hope the project continues since it was obviously what was intended, with many more PCB characters to arrive on the scene.

>>6204123
Go back to you Naruto faggot. The show was pretty good for an opening.

>>6204132
sorry about that, 4chan suddenly stopped refreshing, was trying to get a post to post. Then suddenly everything shows up at once.

>>6204139
This isnt the 90s anymore.

>>6204151
But they should be!

>>6204139
When they are not fighting, Touhou is a slice of life. Jesus, is this your first day of /jp/ or something?

>>6202104
> I mean Marisa is playing the straight man to Reimu and Aya.
I attributed that to Marisa being sleep-deprived or something, considering she'd said Aya had kept her up the whole night before.

>>6202104

Read through some of the secondary materials for Touhou. Marisa isn't always a huge troublemaker. Sometimes she's actually pretty down to earth, and sometimes Reimu is the one that gets all up in arms about stuff.

Don't assume that just because a character is known to do a certain thing that it is going to be the only way they can possibly react to something. Otherwise you're basically asking for a one dimensional character, which a lot of the better developed Touhou characters really are not.

Really, the only character that struck me as being really off-base was Sakuya, who only showed her nice side, and none of her sociopath side. It would have been nice to see at least some hints of that.

Also, considering how few people worked on it, it is actually pretty impressive. Animation is a ton of work to even produce a pile of drivel. Let alone something you could call "passable". I think if it had handled spell card duels better, milked the spell card declarations less, and had less drama about the incident, it would have been better.

Afterall, when has anyone in the entire series EVER gotten all "serious business" about an incident? Sure, Reimu might be a bit invested, but either way it is less something people get dramatic about, and more something they go "oh shit yeah, time to shoot some bitches up and have some fun whilst also solving some minor problem".

And that was the problem with it. If they hadn't made the donation box such a big dramatic deal at the end, then I would have enjoyed it more.

And to answer OP's question: I am a very rabid fan, and I was a bit bored. I enjoyed myself, but I couldn't help thinking "DO SOMETHING" the whole time. Less eventful than fucking k-on.

>>6204200
>>Really, the only character that struck me as being really off-base was Sakuya, who only showed her nice side, and none of her sociopath side.
Sociopath Sakuya is fanon though.

>>6204207
Sakuya is a good girl

>>6204200
>>6204207
Even though she has a sinister backstory, she has always been shown to be a loyal servant of Remilia who is exactly as her job description says: head maid. In both SSiB and Three Fairies, she basically just assisted Remilia with whatever she wanted. No sociopathy.

And she was shown to be on the attack with her knives in the original trailer, possibly for the second episode.

>>6204200
The donation box is possibly the only thing in the entire world that Reimu cares about. Of course it's a serious business to her. Remember, noone else cared.

>>6204207
Not exactly... but still, every possibility of Sakuya being a sociopath has been negated by PoFV.

>>6204207

No, really over blown psychotically sociopathic Sakuya is fanon. It was one of the main points behind her route in TH9, that she couldn't connect well with humans.

Keep in mind that this is a person who uses human blood and body parts to feed what amounts to two man-eating monsters. And she definitely shifts between "air headed maid" and "Ima gonna stab you now because my vampire told me to"

>>6204221

Also, here is the definition, since I'm starting to think you guys don't know what sociopath means.

–noun Psychiatry .
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Pretty much fits her earlier appearances to a T (a bunch of other characters in the series qualify as well)

>>6204234
Pretty much everyone, really.

>>6204236

>>6204236

Yeah. Point is: that side of her personality doesn't come across at all in the anime. In fact, honestly, how she is presented in the anime doesn't reflect ANY of her canon apperances. She's not a sly trickster with an air for the dramatic like in CoLA. She doesn't smack talk before stabbing like in EoSD. Sakuya, in most her appearances, at least TRIES to come off as a bad-ass. Even when she's acting the part of the perfect elegant maid, she at least has something to say. Here, not so much. She's just kinda.... there.

>>6204250
Well, that's because she's in SDM talking to SDM people, of course she's going to be more demure. She will probably get more serious if she's talking to enemies in a fight, which, again, is what was shown in the original trailer and possibly planned for episode 2.

>>6204221
You shouldn't read so deep into the 'plot' of Touhou.

If a character acts like a nice girl, it is a nice girl.

>>6204234
Most people here probably don't know the correct definition of antisocial either.

>>6204258
But we do know the definition of Autism!

>>6204263
Yep, you!

>>6204255

True, but think about it. She barely got lines in this at all. And even her "calm" mode doesn't really match up with how she acts in any of the side materials.

You could literally have put any of the fairy maids in her role and you wouldn't have even noticed.

And that is the problem. This is Touhou. There are somewhere around a hundred characters in the series. What faith should people have that they can handle doing justice to a large number of characters if they can't even properly explore five characters? Its basically a recipe for disappointment.

>>6204266
Dont be so autism bro.

>>6204263

Because knowing what words actually mean is autism, am I right? Enjoy your illiteracy.

>>6204276
Sounding a little autism there bud. Best get that checked out.

>>6204267
...but it wasn't trying to explore her character. She WAS just a side-character as far as Reimu's quest for her box is concerned. I don't think she's even talked to Reimu yet. In fact, SDM seem to just be filler bosses for the episode. In the original trailer, it's Yuyuko that got to look serious.

Though yes, if they really do keep her sidelined Rie Tanaka's talent will go to waste...

lol!
Autistic XD

>>6204283

Yes, they were side characters, but again, any good writer would be able to explore five characters at least somewhat in an entire episode. And is it really a wise idea making half your cast throwaway characters?

Like I said, I liked it, but it really felt like they didn't know what they were doing. If they ever make another episode, or another attempt, I really will look forward to watching it. I just think if they are going to bother putting a character in an episode, they should do something other than being part of the scenery. They have a wealth of material to work with and they aren't using it (so far).

That and lets face it, approximately half the episode was filler. Especially stuff like Reimu declaring her spellcard.

>>6204290
you mean AWETISTIC.

>>6204295

Wow, I just realized I kept saying five when there were seven characters. I guess that kinda shows how unmemorable some of them were.

>>6204283
Rie Tanaka's gigantic repertoire of voices is her main asset. Noone would let that go to waste.

>>6204295
Who the fuck cares about exploring characters? It's Touhou, they've already been explored a hundred of times in all cavities. We all know them already, they're only supposed to look cute and do fun things nowadays. SoundHolic's anime went ahead and explored the characters, see how well that turned out.

>>6204304
Eight.

China had no lines.

>>6204308

If you aren't going to do anything with the characters, what is the point of having an anime? I really don't get your point here.

>>6204310

Shit, how could I forget her too. Isn't it sad Meiling?

I guess it could be nine if you count Yukari's little voice over at the end.

>>6204318
> I guess it could be nine if you count Yukari's little voice over at the end.
And the beginning. She was the narrator.

Still, delicious Kikuko Inoue...

>>6204311
To just focus on Reimu. Everyone else, even Marisa, is a secondary character, often there for cameos. At least they weren't silhouettes like Rumia and Cirno.

Except maybe the antagonist and/or Yukari the narrator, but we'll have to see.

>>6204311
Doing things with characters does not necessarily mean exploring them. Sure, I want the characters to do something. I just don't believe they need to demonstrate the depths of their inner self in the process; I think it's a recipe for disaster, actually.

>>6204337
I dont know about you but I want to "explore" all the touhous.

>>6204332
>>6204337

Alright then. Enjoy your cardboard cut-out versions of the characters that act as nothing but set pieces that facilitate the plot. That is sure to be fun.

I'm being sarcastic

>>6204346
that's definitely right picture you're posting there
i didn't even know who remilia is when i saw this for the first time

the same-face that everyone has kills it for me.

>>6204605
Kinda ironic, given ZUN's art...

>>6204650
you only need this face...

>Boring story-line for Touhou anime.
>Implying they aren't based off the games' simplicistic plot.
>Captcha, Believeth clandly