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Hello there /jp/
If you remember, around two weeks ago there was a BeatoBattler thread, and I added many rare pictures from the depths of the internet, and I promised I will open a new thread.

So, this is a normal BeatoXBattler thread, BUT! Also a challenge against me! I have over 1000 files in my BeaBato folder. If someone can make me save a new picture in this folder he should be appriciated.
Let's see if you can find somthing I don't know, anon-kun.

>> No.6180942

/r/ or /y/

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>>6180942
/bi/

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>>6180935
oh another thing, if you won't post any pictures, I will stop posting too~

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>>6180954
Not a loss in our part.

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>> No.6181007

>>6180991
That made me all fluttery inside. I now accept your challenge!

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pppft.

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>>6181007
let's seeeee~~

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/jp/
I'm disappointed. you can't beat even one anonnymous.

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>> No.6181088

>>6180935
sadly i lost my drive with over 900 pics of beaxbato. if any rapitshit or so links i appeciate them.

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after the first picture I will save I will also start posting short comices I have.

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>>6181088
I don't really have links since I worked pretty hard from many "dark" places in the internet to get them. sorry.

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I didn't even start posting many other special pictures I have, come on /jp/.

>> No.6181146

Gotta go OP.

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>>6181151
2/2

not <good> /jp/, not <good>.

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last one unless you start posting too, anons.

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you can do better.../jp/

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THIS! Do you have this?

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>>6181226
Well done Anon!
saved!

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>>6181230
2/4

>> No.6181240

Kinzo already banged Beato. Why would Battler go after his grandpas leftovers when there are so many better options?

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>>6181237
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>>6181244
4/4


everytime I save somthing, you will get more.
If you won't post at all, I won't post too. Simple logic~

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>>6181230
Heheh~ and this oneee?

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>>6181256
approved.

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>>6181271
2/2

Still disappointed though, I was sure you will be a great challenge.
You can't go against one OP. heh

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Hey, I'm still trying hard!

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>>6181297
I wanted more people >|

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>>6181327
2/2

also, you're getting better /jp/, but I'm not satisfied yet!
I won't start with longer comices

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>>6181317
They'll came. I'm sure they'll came.
Changing my name, so you can recognise me!

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>>6181332
sure why not! ahahaha!
I think you're the only one who made me press "save" till now. (not with this pic tho)

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>>6181338
Heheh~ I'm glad! xD

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>>6181367
nice one, I will respond.

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>>6181384
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>>6181386
3/3

Tataradan! I must admit, you're <good> <VERY GOOD>
ihihi

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>>6181396
Hee~ thank you!
But you're better! xD

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>>6181407
my thank you.
it's already kinda priviate thread, almost. lol.

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oh, new people.

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YEAH!

>> No.6181493

OP is samefagging in here.

What a sad person.

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>>6181493
not samefagging at all.
every post I'm doing here is under the name "Beatrice".
so gtfo

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oh boy, shipperfag dumps, my favorite!

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>>6181543
glad to hear it, ihihi~

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>>6181616
Pffft.

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The last one, I'm going now!

>> No.6181780

Over 1000? That's not so much.

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>>6181519
that's the new tarot card by the way

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My Maria folder has over 1,400. I've been slacking lately though so it's probably easy to show me one I don't have.

>> No.6181804

>>6181792
Maria is my one and only imouto
Please post more as we watch warmly

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Where's everyone?

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>> No.6189909

So, as someone who has never touched this series due to the horrible art, I always thought that Beato was evil or something and that Battler was the protagonist who doesn't believe in witches. Why are they a pairing?

>> No.6190436

>>6189909
Because Beato wasn't the bad guy in the first place.
She was just pretending to be evil.
Battler is just stupid.

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>>6189909
Because they're in love.

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>>6190452
Very, very in love. <3

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>>6190465
You say, ironically using a SEN_KA picture.

>> No.6190590

>>6190478

>People still hating on senka because of that doujin.

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>>6190590
>>6190478
Wait, which doujinshi?
What did Senka do?

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>>6189909
Because they are husbando and waifu.

Which is which is up for debate, though.

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>>6190590
Have you read her blog? It's pretty funny.

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>>6190661
Basically, Sen-ka did not approve of Battler's characterization in Episode 5 in loving and caring about Beato, so she made a doujin explaining how everything that looked like Battler was doing was actually just so he could go back to Ange and nothing more. Some anon scanslated it a while back to troll everyone.

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>>6190731
Do tell.

>> No.6190767

>>6190731

I still want to know how she feels about EP7. Considering she's a big fan of "Second son family"

>> No.6190773

>>6190735
>Some anon scanslated it a while back to troll everyone.

I want to read it and see what's the big fuss

>> No.6190801

>>6190735
Is it translated?
Otherwise I won't understand a thing.

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>> No.6190853

>>6190767
It is pretty hilarious how her last entry is the day after the game is released, talking about how pumped she is to play it...and then nothing.

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>>6190801
I don't think...

>> No.6190990

>>6190853
Oh wow. I almost feel sorry for her. But from the sounds of it wouldn't episode 6 have hit her hard enough?

>> No.6191007

>>6190853

I think it's for certain that her reaction was anything but positive. heh its kind of saddening in a way.

>> No.6191013

>>6190990
Badass, sometimes-scary yandere Kyrie is kind of on a totally different level than full out KYRIE TIME with Rudolf joining in.

>> No.6191041

>>6191013

Lets not forget the whole stuff she said about Ange. Considering Senka's an Ange fan that would hit her hard.

>> No.6191054

>>6191013
I mean the intense BattlerxBeato shipping.

>> No.6191079

>>6191054

Well I don't know about that. I got the impression she kind of calmed down with the pairing and focused on something else such as Ange's family. Her reaction for EP6 didn't seem very negative so...

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Discussion about Sen-ka's reactions kinda has me curious. How do you guys feel about all the Ep7/Yasu stuff?

I'm weirdly more okay with it than I thought I'd be.

>> No.6191149

Frankly I don't understand the hatred for sen_ka just because of that doujin. Sure it had the wrong charactirisation and had the charactirisation that she wanted but so what? Other doujinshi artists do that aswell with the characters such as making Bern less of a cruel witch and actually caring for Erika (as an example in the "PUNISH ME PUNISH ME PLEASE" doujin) its a common thing in fancomics (which is what doujinshi are)

>> No.6191158

>>6191124

Frankly the whole Yasu stuff didn't really bother me aswell. I don't even care that much. I care far more about the events in the EP7 Tea Party more than the whole Yasu deal.

>> No.6191205

>>6191124

Surprisingly enough I spent half of Shannon's screentime thinking "sup Beatrice" and still loving Beato as separate self before EP7

Now I feel pity for Yasu, love Shannon as I never did before...and can't stand Beato, wheter is seeing fanart of her or trying to do it myself I can just see Yasu. Even when looking at EP1-4 stuff.

>> No.6191222

>>6191158
I'm fine with Yasu too. I just want Will+Lion/Battler+Beato double-dating now.

>> No.6191238

>>6191205
>Now I feel pity for Yasu

I'm glad not everyone is joining the "Let's hate Yasu" group.

>> No.6191273

>>6191149
She knowingly sold and advertised it as a BeaBato doujinshi.

>> No.6191278

>>6191205

Why do you hate Beato all of the sudden? I'm quite curious

>> No.6191300

>>6191273

I know that. What i'm trying to say is that for her that is her prefrefered characterisation of the pairing. It's her head canon. Not an uncommon thing you see from doujin artists. I hated that doujin as well but really the hate is out of hand.

>> No.6191323

>>6191300
I think "hating SEN_KA" is more of a meme than reality. Most fans don't really care. She has good artwork, even if her characterization has always been off. (She got stuck somewhere in EP2 and never progressed)

>> No.6191327

>>6191323
Yeah, a lot of the "hate" is pretty much a nostalgic in-joke from the days when EP5 was the latest one released and everyone was going nuts after the shipfaggotry in it.

>> No.6191354

I'm glad the whole "Shkanontrice is absolutely retarded and if it is true R07 is a hack and I will drop Umineko immediately" crowd didn't hold true to their promise.

>> No.6191379

>>6191278

It's not really hating her, but just now I can only see Beato as the EP6 moetrice, and moetrice did get on my nerves. There is no real reason, just something my subconcious decided by itself.


Note I actually did not read EP7, so it's only based on spoilers.

>> No.6191405

>>6191354
How do you know they didn't?

>> No.6191430

>>6191323
>even if her characterization has always been off. (She got stuck somewhere in EP2 and never progressed)

What can you say. I guess she really only liked the antagonostic side of the pairing at that time. those were the days

>> No.6191442

>>6191354
But I have dropped Umineko.

>> No.6191546

>>6191405
Because I'm sure they would at least rage and let everyone know they're doing so before actually doing it.

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Superior personality is superior.

>> No.6191591

>>6191546
The people who screamed and hated ShKanontrice were people who care far too much about Umineko.
That's why they couldn't accept ShKanontrice, it's not a surprise they changed their mind when it was revealed to be true.
I guess it shows that most fans like Umineko for the wrong reason, well that's to be expected from a famdom that is mostly composed of fangirls.

>> No.6191603

When Shkanontrice is actually -confirmed- I will stop reading Umineko. Doesn't mean I won't still listen to the music though. It's glorious.

>> No.6191608

>>6191591

Well not to be the odd person out but I never hated the "shkanontrice" theory. It made more sense then the crap people spewed out.

>> No.6191674

>>6191608
I don't see how anyone could like that the "answer" of the mystery, the key plot device that make most closed rooms and impossible murders possible, is that the maid and the shota butler are the same person and that somehow they can die without being killed.

It's not that it doesn't make sense in context or that it's not foreshadowed, it's just that it's fucking stupid, and considering that Umineko was hyped as a thinking game, it's even worse.

And it's also disappointing considering I'm sure most people thought for a bit that something was weird about Shannon and Kanon the first time they appeared, at the very least I thought "R07 won't pull off another ShMion, right?".

>> No.6191849

>>6191674
This.
I think the same thing.
Shkanontrice is a lame "answer", it's not a "dirty trick", it's just a lame answer.

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Back to BeatoBattler people!

>> No.6191985

>>6191674
Maybe that was the dirty trick he was talking about in his interviews
I'm too invested in the story, so regardless of the ending I shall see it through.

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Would you mind giving me the links to the sources of your 1000 files?

>> No.6192560

You know, I thought Shkanon was lame. And then EP7 happened.

Now I think Ryu handled the whole situation well. And I was about ready to punch someone in the face over what I thought would be a seriously retarded answer before I started Episode 7.

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>>6192560
Let's not trust Berknatroll so fast, shall we?

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>>6192560
Pretty much my exact feelings too, anon.

I hope people don't abandon the concept and Umineko in disgust from reading spoilers, even though I completely understand where they're coming from. If it still makes people rage after EP7, that's their choice, but at least give it a chance.

>> No.6192616

>>6192577
If you're talking about her 'truth' at the end, I don't see what that has to do with it.

>> No.6192618

>>6192577

Whether you trust the Yasu/Shkanontrice story that plays out in the main game is much more a question of whether you trust Will than Bernkastel, honestly.

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>>6192616
I mean anything that comes out of her mouth or her actions in the game.

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>> No.6193007

>>6191674
>the key plot device that make most closed rooms and impossible murders possible
Like one closed room actually uses it.

It's not really that stupid, people were solving all the rooms in lame ways anyway (especially some of the solutions that came for the episode 6 closed room, laughable), I don't know what they're so pissed off about.

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>> No.6194033

>>6192560
Well if it's so well handled, explain to me the motive in a way that isn't completely stupid.
Or how nobody could fucking realize anything.

The Yasu part of episode 7 was both boring and only explained what happened BEFORE ShKanon happened, nothing about how ShKanon could be realistically possible.
And the motive, goddam how anyone could buy that shit?

What saved episode 7 and then some was the tea party, but it pretty much had nothing to do with Yasu, R07 very clearly dropped the ball with her.

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>>6194033
You're absolutely right.

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>> No.6196295

>>6194033
>Or how nobody could fucking realize anything.
Yasu doesn't actually crossdress.
Episodes 1-6 are novels, written by Yasu herself before the conference and Featherine based on Yasu's letters. Kanon and Shannon appear as different characters because they were written that way, but are never together because Yasu was supposed to "play/act" both of them.
Then Kyrie happened, and all the plans went to fuckland. No crossdressing happened.

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>> No.6199236

>>6196295
What fucking bullshit.
It's already been said that the flashback are valid and Yasu definitely crossdress in these.

>> No.6199243

>>6199236
[citation needed]

>> No.6199246

>>6199243
Clair in episode 7.
You guys are fucking retarded, crossdressing definitely happened and the Shannon/George and Jessica/Kanon romances did too, they are the main reason that Yasu did that shit.

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>> No.6200729

>>6194033
>Well if it's so well handled, explain to me the motive in a way that isn't completely stupid.
Yasu's situation was completely hopeless, for whatever reason. The game doesn't outright tell you why, but it's very clear on that in particular.

Will felt terrible for her and died to save a part of her heart. Bern mocks her dark, hopeless situation. Lion tries his utmost to live for her sake even after being shot in the chest. Battler cried and screamed for her once he found out the truth. If you tried to live her life two hundred million times, she would still die a miserable death.

The emphasis, time and time again, is on her being someone with absolutely no hope.

That's her motivation.

>Or how nobody could fucking realize anything.
This was explained in the game. It was a mixture of people not paying attention, people not being in a position to interact with Kanon, and people being in on the secret.

>> No.6200753

>>6200729
>It was a mixture of people not paying attention, people not being in a position to interact with Kanon, and people being in on the secret.
Only 3 people were in the secret, not counting Kinzo.
And everyone except Battler had met Kanon before.
It's just plot hax, saying that "they didn't pay attention" is the same as saying that everyone on the island were retarded.

And for Yasu, her motivation was laid pretty clearly, it's just that it's fucking stupid and self-centered.
She is the same as these crazy father who kill their family and then himself because he doesn't want them to find out that he lost his job or something.

Yasu was leading George, Jessica and Battler (only in her mind for Battler though, but she really believed that he reciprocated her feelings) and didn't want to choose, and she thought that there was no way her love with one of them could really blossom (meaning that she couldn't fuck them) because of her little furniture problem.

Therefore she decided to do it, to have fate decide for her.
How anyone could pity her I have no fucking idea, she is just a self-centered monster, I bet if she really had talked about her problem with George or Jessica, they would have accepted her.

>> No.6200758

>>6200729
You should stop accepting everything R07 lays so readily.

>> No.6200775

>>6200753
>I bet if she really had talked about her problem with George or Jessica, they would have accepted her.

I highly doubt that. Espescially on George's case Unless Yasu really is a biological female with a malfunctioning womb then yeah. You give George and Jessica too much credit.

>> No.6200776

>>6200753
>I bet if she really had talked about her problem with George or Jessica, they would have accepted her.
Yasu herself believed that. So that obviously wasn't the problem.

As for no one noticing, it made sense to me in context.

>> No.6200785

>>6200758
Why? Umineko is what it is and has given me hours of enjoyment. I loved every minute of EP7 and thought the backstory on how Beatrice came to be formed was just as interesting as the tea party. So why should I be angry and bitter over some game I've enjoyed? So you can feel better about being overly involved?

>> No.6200790

>>6200775
Even if they wouldn't accept, did she have to go and play with the life 15 fucking people?
She was filthy rich too, no matter what her problem was she could have an operation or something.
There is nothing to pity her for, lots of people with far worse handicaps manage to find meaning in life and love.

>> No.6200793

I really believe Yasu's problem is not her inability to choose between cousins or something like that. Why would Battler forgive her then? Even Ange wonders why was Battler so desperate after finding the truth. And Will DOESN'T show the whole truth, he knows it himself, but he doesn't show it to us readers.

>> No.6200796

>>6200776
Let say Umineko would have a live action, would ShKanon works and be coherent?

>> No.6200801

>>6200793
You didn't read episode 7 then.
Everything about Yasu was told, the only reason Will didn't say everything was simply because it had been said in the previous episodes, it's stated clearly that the motive is really obvious.

>> No.6200802

>>6200790
>Even if they wouldn't accept, did she have to go and play with the life 15 fucking people?

Don't get me wrong. I don't feel sory for Yasu. I'm actually even forcing myself actually care about her "anguish" but It's proving to be very difficult for me To be honest.

I'm just saying I doubt jessica and George would be accepting after being in a relationship with said person (Espescially on George's case)

>> No.6200821

So for people who've read EP7. Can you please tell me what's Yasu's full motive? and how much of it makes it understandable for her to want commit such a crime?

>> No.6200832

I still think it's weird for Battler to break down crying and ask forgiveness if all it was about was "not remembering the promise" and conflicting personalities.
And we don't yet know what that guy meant with the Ushiromiyas being a threat to the world's peace. You'd think something like that would be pretty important.

>> No.6200844

>>6200832
That's just plot hax.
Same thing as everyone saying that Yasu was hopeless and pitiful, truth is that there is a lots of things she could do.
She had money and freedom after all, nothing limiting her except herself, that's why I find it very difficult to pity her.

>> No.6200855

> I bet if she really had talked about her problem with George or Jessica, they would have accepted her.
As someone with DID, let me tell you that's impossible and that Yasu herself probably didn't realize the situation for a lot of time.
Also, she's an incest child, she got thrown off a cliff, she has biological problems, she lived in an orphanage (horrible places, let alone Japanese orphanges in the 80's), got bullied, lived as a servant and her only happiness were the magic tales Kumasawa told her (imaginary + delusional = doesn't work well, i experience that on my own), she fell in love obsessively and people only tried to ruin that too.
I.. don't expect people to feel pity for her, I do cause I might understand her a little but... selfish? monster? No, that doesn't work. It's just the same happened with Takano "she shot children, what a monster" but what about her past? Mental illnesses =/= being cruel

>> No.6200862

>>6200844

Doesn't change the fact that Battler completly forgiven her and is even asking for forgiveness and this is with Yasu planning to kill his family. You'd think he's be less forgiving if it was something petty. Espescially when he was hating on her for the first 4 games. Even Will was understanding...

Meh, I don't know what to think of this i'm just hoping for some good motive and I can't see one...

>> No.6200889

>>6200855
Takano was suffering from the Himazawa syndrome.
And she wasn't really pitiable anyways, you could somehow understand her I guess.

But Yasu isn't mentally sick, she just have a very lively imagination, she doesn't have DID.
She lived with an orphanage like millions children but unlike most of them she had someone who doted and took care of her, she wasn't really bullied either.
She learned about the accident and incest when she was like 15-16 and that was from an old man who kept apologizing and 3 other people who could do anything for her simply because they love her, also she got tons of gold.
She had friends on the island and people who loved her.
Her only "big" problem was what happened to her sexual organs, otherwise she didn't have a hard life at all.

Takano had a shitty childhood, Yasu didn't.

>> No.6200977

>>6200889
> But Yasu isn't mentally sick, she just have a very lively imagination, she doesn't have DID.
Are we 100% sure of this? She was a million times luckier than Takano but are we really 100% sure she was sane?
My disorder is more similar to Maria's/and in a minor way Rena's and I agree that murdering her whole family seems
absolutely insane and her motives too weak but.. since I can't read Japanese, I'm still waiting for a full translation. If Yasu's actually mentally sick, it should be a little easier to pity her. I pitied Takano because of all the things she went through.

I still think this explanation is incomplete, there must be something in ep 8 that clears out the situation in a better way.
I still think that Kyrie and Rudolf's actions hide something more or at least were explained in a partial way.

>> No.6200997

>>6200889
Look at where you're posting.

/jp/.

This is a place where the vast majority of posters are/become bitter, misogynistic floorshitters, who act as though they're the only ones in the world who've ever suffered, because people made fun of them in high school.

I'm not saying that what Yasu does is justified - precisely the opposite, actually - but if anyone should be empathizing with how he/she/it feels, it should be /jp/.

>> No.6201017

>>6200977
If she has DID, then she has a very strange kind of DID that can turn on and off at will and that she control perfectly.
So either R07 really fails at portraying a mental illness or she simply is someone with a far too big imagination.

Depends on what you think of R07 I guess.

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>>6200753
>only in her mind for Battler though, but she really believed that he reciprocated her feelings

>> No.6201032

>>6201017
she says herself that she consciously pretended to have imaginary friends. You can, however, have your own interpretation of what the "I became a true witch" line means. It could be the shock of discovering her parentage made her develop DID ( I don't even know if that's possible from a medical viewpoint) or whatever.

>> No.6201036

>>6201017
Some kinds of delusions can go off when facing a dead end situation or when experiencing a trauma.
They usually come back, always. Especially when you believe you're feeling good and start to believe you were deluded about being delusional.

...but we're putting too much thought in this, i think

>> No.6201038

>>6201026
That's the Battler in her imagination you know, the one she wrote without even meeting him.

>> No.6201050

>>6201038
He says the same thing in Bern's supposed truth. Shannon was his first love, and the narration made it seem like he didn't get over it.
Which is why people think George must have done something.

>> No.6201079

>>6201032
>You can, however, have your own interpretation of what the "I became a true witch" line means.

I thought it was referring to her having found the gold, which granted her power in the real world (as opposed to just imagining things).

>> No.6201110

>>6201050
I'd be satisfied with a "George was the trigger for everything that happened" solution.
Not because I dislike George but I think all of that didn't happen out of the blue. Doesn't this remind you of Satoshi and Shion? There were no Sonozaki family conspiracies but he was actually in a coma and hidden away. It's not unlikely that George hid the letter and pushed both Shannon and Battler away from each other just to have her. Ep 6 seems to confirm this in a way.
And he was always suspicious about magic and plotting, the "George is the true culprit" essay still seems valid even if in a different way.

>> No.6201139

>>6201038

Shannon being Battler's first love is told for first time in EP3 unless I forgot something. And EP3 is AuAu's. Yasu's own fanfiction doesn't talk about Battler having love Shannon.

>> No.6201166

>>6201050
Yeah, he was sort of upset and jealous when he found out they were dating.

>> No.6201243

>>6201166
I have this Theory Hear this:

What if George (apparently he have economic independence)was the one that have been buying His own father company?

what if he was the one that sued Rudolph and Kyrie

what if he was the one that caused the problems with Rosa's company?

what if he blackmailed Kyrie and Rudolph so that they would kill everyone?

reason:Love If i cant have Yasu no one will...

what if George revealed something Horrible to Rudolph?

what if Rudolph due to that Killed George?

>> No.6201257

>>6201243

Giving too much credit to fat fat fat

>> No.6201274

>>6201257
Yeah but It is still a possibility

Remember that EP7 have alot of Holes...

if this theorie is true it would change dramatically George's Character

>> No.6201275

>>6201243

Hey. You're forgetting Battler's word that "No one was bad" With your theory it makes Joji one evil cunt.

>> No.6201287

>>6201275
Probably but remember
It is just a theory that makes sense

Ryukishi would probably would give some kind of excuse to not tag George as Evil.......

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>> No.6202469

>>6200862
Will was more than understanding. Will threw his own life away for a chance to "show the Beatrice who received nothing but tragic endings, and died in despair, that she can also reach a happy ending!"

Hell, even Bern is absolutely consistent with mocking Beatrice as a trapped, tragic, noble victim.

>> No.6202536 [DELETED] 

>>6200801
I don't think you're understanding the context of Will's investigation and what he was trying to accomplish. You remember the mystery Bern set out for him to solve, right? It wasn't "solve the Rokkenjima murders." It was "who killed Beatrice?" Will goes on a spiel after he puts together Lion's role in the clusterfuck about how "only the person who created Beatrice can kill her", and moves on from there. Will never even tried to touch on the actual Rokkenjima murders. Lion and Will discuss Lion not being able to understand Beatrice's role in "the incident", but something to keep in mind is that Lion is very anguished and upset about how he is sure that he will never, ever be able to understand how his alternate self could get involved in something that repeatedly kills his family and friends - but by the end, after understanding her, even Lion accepts and wants to protect Beatrice.

Will's objective is why his answers during the end of the main story are so frustratingly vague: he asks Clair if it's all right if all he does is "stop her heart", and Clair assents. In other words, it's enough for Will to dispel the illusion of the witch without touching on what it is she's covering up--the "guts" that Bern is so obsessed with ripping out. It's also pretty clear in the Tea Party that Will doesn't really have anything to say about "the truth of the murders", otherwise, fighting Bern shouldn't have been a problem at all for him.

>> No.6204435

>>6202469

All of this just shows how Yasu's motive is anything but shallow and weak. People shoudn't easily jump to the Yasu's a minster bandwagon yet

>> No.6204471

>>6204435
No, it just shows that R07 failed at portraying her anguish.
The characters saying "oh this is so sad" and shit is nothing if the readers can't feel the same.

Oh and the motive SHOULD BE CLEAR, it was stated several times in episode 7.
Honestly only a retard wouldn't get it, you think there will be a last minute revelation in episode 8?
Well sorry but it was stated several times that everything about Yasu had been told, that her motive was obvious for anyone who read the previous episodes and that there was nothing more to be say.

>> No.6204488

>>6204471
>Implying that everything about the story was already told

No. Yasu's motive for NOT KILLING ANYONE has been told, that's pretty much it.

Please make "the moon" a biggest secret instead of the biggest hering.

>> No.6204506

>>6204471
>Oh and the motive SHOULD BE CLEAR, it was stated several times in episode 7.
Yeah, the whole part about the motive being the most important and most overlooked out of the dunnits, Bern and Aurora not caring about the heart, Aurora going back to sleep before the end because she only cares about whodunnit and howdunnit and not whydunnit all totally point to the motive being already there. Like, really.
People need to remember it's still unfinished, and not draw conclusions just because ep7 gave some of the solutions.
Theorizing is fine, as long as you don't go all "THIS WAS SAID CLEARLY LOL DID YOU EVEN READ EP7 EVERYTHING ALREADY BEEN SAID EP7 WAS THE END OF EVERYTHING" because that's retarded.
A novel about mystery novels, without plot twists near the ending? Please.

>> No.6204513

>>6204471
Her motive for WHAT, exactly?

The mystery Will set about solving was not "what is the truth behind the Rokkenjima murders", it is "who killed Beatrice?" Will explains the answer to this question as: "Only the person who created Beatrice can kill her", and the Yasu backstory takes off from there. The Yasu backstory is not supposed to tell us "oh bawww, this is how someone was driven to slaughter the Ushiromiyas", it is Beatrice's origin story to go along with how Will frames the situation.

Lion expresses anguish over not being able to understand how his alternate self could become involved in such a terrible incident that was the "repeated" deaths of his friends and family - in other words, Beatrice's catbox that enables those fictional brutal murders to occur over and over. Bern's reaction in the Tea Party is consistent. She brutally mocks Beatrice's motive, all right - her motive as far as trying to nobly cover up the brutal truth with the fictional message bottles.

>> No.6204549

>>6204488
Play episode 7 before talking

>>6204506
Will who was the protagonist of episode 7 understood the motive by seeing this episode and the previous ones and stated that he had no need to state it since it was FUCKING OBVIOUS.
And Will cares a fucking lot about the whydunnit, I don't care about Bern and Aurora who were non-factor during that part.


>>6204513
Her motive for everything, basically the why she became that way, why she started this roulette, once again it's supposed to be very clear.

You guys are fucking delusional.

>> No.6204579

>>6204549
>Her motive for everything, basically the why she became that way, why she started this roulette, once again it's supposed to be very clear.

No. That's something you made up all on your own. Will and Lion set out to solve "who killed Beatrice" - the same question of "who created Beatrice" - and her role in creating the endless cycle of fictional murders is touched upon. If you want to talk about what's made clear, it's also made clear that Will doesn't really have anything to say about the truth behind the Rokkenjima killings. It's not what he cares about and if he had pinned down everything about that, fighting Bern's truth wouldn't have been a problem for him.

>> No.6204600

>>6204579
Will doesn't care about what really happened on the island during the 2 days because it's ultimately not important, that's all.

The roulette by itself is a big part of Beatrice, of what created her, it's a very important part of her.
So yeah the motive is fucking important and obvious, what happened on the island isn't because everything could have happened, that's the fucking catbox.

The only reason Will didn't talk about the 2 years, and you can find the reason why Yasu started the roulette there, was simply because everything has been told in the previous episodes.
Once again it's said by the fucking characters themselves, it's repeated several times in fact.

>> No.6204622

>>6204579
The Beatrice that Will is investigating isn't simply the Beatrice of Yasu you know.
It's the legend, of course the motive is important.

>> No.6204664

>>6204622
Will, uh, actually specifically discusses this when Lion is asking him about it. He specifies that the Beatrice they're trying to solve IS "the Beatrice of 1986", Lion's alternate self. So yes, it is pretty much the Beatrice created by Yasu. The rest - the past Beatrices, the legend, etc - are just key to understanding aspects of Yasu.

>> No.6204705

...This BeaBato thread has been lacking in BeaBato as of late. ;__;

>> No.6204723

>>6204705
You can find fanart on boorus, I for one welcome some discussion.

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>>6204705

Will/Lion is the new hotness

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>>6204735
A Will/Lion thread would be fine too, but we should probably keep the BeaBato thread to BeaBato.

Or both couples interacting, that would be even better

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>>6204768

Not much fanarts of both couples interacting though

>> No.6204855

>>6204723

If you want a discussion you can make a seperate thread for that.

Let's have some BeaBato goodness. The beaBato love has been down for a while

>> No.6204876

>>6204768
Will/Lion is just an alternate Beabato anyways if you go by the theory that Wright is somehow future/meta/whatever Battler

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>>6204876

Don't forget a better version of Beato/Battler

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ITT: nobody believes

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>>6205699
Without love it can't be seen

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>>6205699

Second best pairing.

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>> No.6207109

No more Beato/Battler pics spam the pic limit has been reached.

>> No.6207330

Who does want to create another thread?

>> No.6208118

new thread: >>6208116

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