/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Oh ho, so it's war now, is it?

>>6137997
The other thread isn't official

so who else can't get in?
just me?
;_;

>connecting
>SERVER IS DELAYED

Goddamnit

Can't connect either.

>>6138018
>>6138022
oh well im glad that im not the only one at the pity party

Anyone mind giving me a beta key?

You guys wanna post here than do it, it's not war, this isn't fuckin /v/ or something :V

>>6138038
>this isn't fuckin /v/ or something :V
Oh how ironic.

I predict countless server crashes ahead.

East server is down, west is up.

Are we going west?

>Step 1: Go to http://www.androidpants.com/
>Step 2: Click IRC
>Step 3: Put in your desired Username (No spaces allowed instead use and Underscore_)
>Step 4: Erase #/v/indictus
>Step 5: Fill in the now empty spot where #/v/idictus was with your desired IRC channel (#friendcircle or #hotglue)

go to #friendcircle if you're from /jp/
#hotglue if your an aspie or from /v/

>Game is live
>Cumming everywhere
>Response from server delayed

Jesus christ, en- is taking forever.

>>6138057
Yeouch. Sure must suck to die in the middle of an orgasm.

We really are being invaded by the /v/ people, eh? God dammit. I hate you all, go back to your shitty board and leave us alone.

As if Hotglue wasn't enough faggotry.

THIS EN- THING IS REALLY MAKING ME ANGRY

>>6138050
If you go West, enjoy being will all the hyperactive teenagers and meme spewing bullshit.

does east work yet?

this gonna be epic imo... patch is downloading atm

>>6138108
Oh godfuckingdamn. Am I really in /jp/?

Guys, /v/ has taken over, what the fuck do we do?

>>6138112
>>6138108
Obvious samefag.

>>6138112
You are posting in an MMO thread. What did you expect?

>>6138013

Just you.

Jesus the "en-" thing really IS taking forever... lol

>>6138112
Ask moot for a new board.

no scythe girl yet?

East is down currently, will be back up within the hour. West is currently being flooded by everyone you'd want to avoid. I say it's a win - win for people who are going East.

Holy shit that fight with the spider thing was amazing. Do all the bosses have awesome stuff happening like that one did?

I assume if I create a character on the West server, I can make another on East when it comes up, right?

I like that they added the fact that you can choose to start the game from the website or from the exe and login in-game.

What the fuck is with this patch it's been downloading for over a hour.

>>6138129
nope

I like how they used Evie in all of the open beta pictures but she isn't available. Classy!

I really want to play, but not on /v/'s server. Do they know when East will be up?

>>6138129
Unfortunately not.
I logged in west for a second and wasn't available

>>6138123
Same for me. How long approx. it takes to finish?

>>6138118
I really, really wish you were correct.

>>6138134

Specifics?

Should I leave my client up and continue trying or?

>>6138163
That's okay, I know I am. You can trust me on this.

>>6138134
I guess I'll take this opportunity to eat some dinner!

Anyone got a key

>>6138176

E9D9D3E76BB2474DBD47

Enjoy

>>6138176

No.

C'mon East server. Don't make me make a West character

Is the patch supposed to take this long or is it not finishing because I selected East?

>>6138194
Hang in there. Think that all the morons who can't wait have already holed up in there.

>>6138201
Nexon hates the east and everything it stands for.

>>6138209
And who can blame them?

Fuck east. Go west.

>en-

Why AOL 9.0?

Isn't the current version 9.5?

Well I gave in and started a temp character on West. I'm deathly afraid of spiders so of course THAT was the first level

>>6138248
That's what they want you to think, don't give in!

Think about how many people are doing that right now.

Thank god that all the morons who can't wait a bit to play are already going to the West.Glad I'll be able to play with the people who can truly take it easy on the East.

Are the hotglue fags still waiting for east?

You better not change your mind and go to west.

So what is the combat like? Is it like Mabinogi, or more mashing buttons, or what?

>>6138264
Including the people who aren't on the east coast, right? Sold.

>>6138134
More like win-win-win because I'm still patching.

>>6138270
takin it easy watchin this ship reach the sunset
can't wait to play with /jp/
I think most of /v/ and /a/ already jumped on the west ship

>>6138273
Still watching the boat sail into the sunset. Idling and not playing games is the best way to play games.

>>6138270
>>6138280
>>6138270
>>6138207
>>6138155
>>6138134
Isn't this what is typically referred to as a "circlejerk"?

>>6138306
i'd circlejerk with the classy folks at /jp/ any day
99% of /v/ is 12
that'd make me a pedo to circlejerk with them

>>6138315
And a pederast, since they are all boys.

The boob jiggle is so...extreme. Like I take a step and they are everywhere. I was hoping to have a modest bust but the jiggle would only look "right" on huge ones

>>6138329
Also the skin colors look weird

>>6138329
High school of the dead extreme?

>>6138341
Yes. It looks especially ridiculous on smaller boobs because they still bounce as though they had a ton of weight

BEHOLD! Beta keys!
CC33F66273424810867F
CBA8DB239C2B46228829

This is awesome because now it sets the stage for East being known as the cool patient side while West will be known as the antsy child side

God the dubs are awful. I wish there was a way to have subs only or something

Still waiting on east, but secured a name on west just in case Nexon says fuck it on getting east going.

>>6138365
turn off the sound and voice it over yourself
its how I got through the disgaea dub

>>6138372
I'm waiting for East to open before I start name-claiming. Or do names go across servers? If so I'll probably make a West character and delete it when they open East

Which server will have hotgluefags?

>>6138381
Not sure, which is why I did it. Just in case. I have no intention of going west unless, like I said, Nexon decides not to fix east within a day. then I'd only play till it opens.

>>6138393
They're split. Many are heading west. Impatient kids.

Well, good thing I always use some pretty obscure names that no one else uses.

>>6138402
Autism. Can't blame them.

Forever -en

>>6138393
Sounds to me like most of them want to be as close to Europe as possible.

>>6138402
More like all the /v/ nerds who infiltrated are going west.

All the true autist nerds of /jp/ are waiting for East, like myself.

>>6138404
Recently found out my aunt that no one likes is Autistic. Explains everything.

Wasn't East supposed to come up soon?

>>6138415
What the fuck did I just read?

>>6138415
Ask her if she knows about /jp/.

>>my face when this game actually runs on my system
>>486-DX 33mhz, 12MB RAM, 32MB hard disk drive

Shit the name I wanted on West was taken (pic related). Good thing I plan on being on East

http://vindictus.nexon.net/News/Content.aspx?boardNo=100&contentNo=009WP

>We will be performing a minor maintenance on the Vindictus East server at 7:00PM Pacific (10:00PM Eastern). The maintenance will take approximately 1 hour. During this time, the East server will not be available. Thank you for your patience.

fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

>>6138420
Probably doesn't. I've never found shit on her floor.

>>6138423
Yeah man, this game runs pretty much everywhere. I'm running it from my Gameboy myself, having a blast.

http://vindictus.nexon.net/News/Content.aspx?boardNo=100&contentNo=009WP

>We will be performing a minor maintenance on the Vindictus East server at 7:00PM Pacific (10:00PM Eastern). The maintenance will take approximately 1 hour. During this time, the East server will not be available. Thank you for your patience.

fuckfuckfuckfuck

>>6138430
Well fuck. Looks like I'm off to cyber in Second Life until this gets sorted~

>We will be performing a minor maintenance on the Vindictus East server at 7:00PM Pacific (10:00PM Eastern). The maintenance will take approximately 1 hour. During this time, the East server will not be available. Thank you for your patience.

Time to take it easy. For another hour.

I just want Tieve to make me dinner, is this so much to ask ;_;

>http://daol.aol.com/software/90vr
>http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=102066

Does this works?

>>6138434
It's just a hour, I can deal with it. At least in the meantime, more faggots will lose their cool and move to the West server, purging the trash from the best server once more.

Is patching supposed to take forever?

>>6138437
I loved carrying her though the level while kicking bad guys in the face off the platforms

I'm watching shymoe's arc in Amagami while I wait for this shit to come up.

>>6138443
yes

>>6138434
and before that it was "within the hour" after west opened. Oh well...

>>6138443
Yep. I'm going on two hours. Not even 1/4 of the way done.

This game is kind of bad. I mean I've only played the prologue part but so far but I'm not really digging it. I guess I'll wait until "our" server opens before I will pass judgement

>>6138462
If I enter West now, can I join the East one later on?

>>6138443

Yep.

IT'S LIKE I'M REALLY PLAYING THE OPEN CLOSED BETA.

>>6138469
Yes.

Why do most of fiona's skin colors make it look like she has some sort of horrible disease?

The server just needs to put its pants on.

Which server will old mabi hotglue fags play on?

>>6138498
East. /v/ is going to play on West, just in case you needed another reason not to go there

Fucking hell, it's like this thread got thrown into some kind of endless repetition.

>>6138500
SA Goons too.

So hotglue is going to go west and is telling everyone to go east?

>>6138505

Nobody on /jp/ wants to break the chain and draw attention to themselves.

So... Which server is Hotglue playing on?

Man they really gutted the character customization. Only 5 hairstyles and none of the makeup options work. Plus most of the hair colors look really off (dark brown looks more like purple)

>>6138511
Oh man, so I also get rid of hotglue by playing on East? What a fucking great deal this server is.

en- is finally done downloading yesssssssssssss

Okay, waking up from three-hour nap, let's see how...
SON OF A FUCK.

Okay, going to library. God DAMMIT. Download that installer onto my flash drive.

I'm downloading a 2GB file at 30kbps in the year 2010. What the fuck

>>6138524
How long did it take you? It's been patching for like an hour and a half now.

>>6138498 >>6138511 >>6138512
Most everyone is going on East, or switching as soon as it's up if they were impatient little twats.

choose your size /jp/

Still half an hour until East is up anyway.

>>6138527
why would you use their shitty downloader?

>>6138529
>>6138529

About 3 hours

>>6138532

Left is still too big.

>>6138532
The larger ones would at least make a little more sense with all that springing.

My patch only took like 40 minutes. I live in Oklahoma too so it's not like I live right next to a server or anything

>>6138532
Both are middle ground. BORING.

took me about 25-30 mins to patch

>>6138423
>mio4
but she's not mio!

>>6138532
I went with mid-sized on my West test character. Too small looks weird with the bounce, and I'm not a big fan of giant boobs

Damn, I don't want to be a teenager girl, it's either loli or normal dude. But I really don't want to dual wield either, it's so faggy. Guess I'll make a dfc chick.

I'll give the east server a shot but so far I don't like this

Also, for the people using AOL to connect. Should this make one lag even worse?

PLEASE SAY YES

>>6138552
>Guess I'll make a dfc chick.

Enjoy your C-cup.

>>6138555
So far this seems like the kind of game I'd play obsessively for a few days until just sort of drift off, then I see it again a few months later and forget I even had it

sup /jp/, can i have a beta key please??

e-mail me at jasonking343@gmail.com

thanks bros i hope we get to see later in games.

God damn it. First APB stops me from making a flat chested character, and now this.

>>6138568
>bros

Nope.

If im moving too different channel in the game, is that because im in irc?

>>6138568
>>>/v/

>>6138577
I...what?

>>6138557
...You have got to be shitting me.

>>6138565

Sounds like you're good at taking it easy.

Anyone got a spare key? I'd appreciate it a lot!

Is the East server up yet?
>Captcha is in Sanskrit
Oh come on now.

Oh god why did the first level have to have a giant SPIDER.

>>6138547
>>but she's not mio
>>my reaction

>>6138532
To be honest if there's breast physics, then it only makes sense to make them as large as possible.

Don't really care either way though; not a big breasts man. What we need are ass physics.

>>6138609
They said it will be up in about 10-15 minutes.

>>6138615
>What we need are ass physics.

And by god Fiona has a big ass

>>6138623
Just how I like it.

>>6138623 >>6138629
No butts about it.

>>6138615
>What we need are ass physics
Why aren't you lead director

I'm probably just going to hop on as soon as East opens, make my character so I can reserve the name I want, then go porn watchin'

Fuck, these dogs are everywhere.

>>6138639
Is there any way to change appearance after initial creation? I want to know how OCD I will need to be with it

>>6138650
Whoops, don't know why I quoted that

>>6138642

H-hentai~

>>6138650
I'd like to know this as well actually.

>>6138662
Actually I'm in the mood for 3D porn today. It's going to be shemale porn though, so my weirdo card is still in play

>>6138556
If it's like the classic Mabinogi, no.

Why does fiona look so sleepy?

I can't believe I started crying when the spider died. That fucking music.

Well it's pass 11 EST and still no East. Not a good first impression Nexus

>>6138684
wat

>>6138684
"ARE YOU HURT??"

>>6138688
Nexus is a piece of shit and you do well on remembering that.

>>6138684

got a screencap of the spider?

>>6138693
I've never really been big on MMOs so I don't really know the ins and outs of the industry yet

That spider was fucking adorable, and we should all feel ashamed for needing to kill it.

>>6138688
>>6138693
>Nexus
What.

The first day of any MMO always goes badly.

>>6138715
No it was not!

>>6138715
I was only sad because Tieve was sad, and she deserves all the happiness in the world.

The official forums suck so bad. I know the standard for MMO forums isn't very high but still, wow

Why do so many people freak out when they see spiders?

>>6138723
Stop breakin' the fourth wall girl!!

An hour, my ass.

>>6138715
I know. I felt really bad it needed to die. So cute and he was only scared...

>>6138729
I don't know why I do. I also really hate the feel of chalk, and paper

>>6138729
i love video game spiders, can't wait to squish this one.

too bad I'm still
>patching
>patching

>>6138729
thin, freakish movements, general ugh factor
also possibly hairy

It was afraid!

>>6138688
>>6138693
Ironically, Nexus was pretty much the only game I actually kind of liked from them.

Wanted to have that scythe girl but I guess I'm stuck with that dual wielding dick as I don't want a tank with a big chest size.

Oh the horror... I'll be abandoning any character I have when Evy gets released anyway, so I guess I can stand it until then.

...Is there a way to turn off voices?

>>6138729
I refuse to play resident evil 1, 2, 3, or 0 because I know there are spiders in them

EAST IS UP AND WORKING GOGOGOGOGOGOOG

>>6138759
>>6138759


HELL YEAH

Right when my patching ended to.

>>6138759
you lie

I SURE LOVE SCREEN SHOTS

East server is working for me.

>>6138776
/r/ screenshot of the spider if you have any

>>6138759
More accurately, east is closer to being up. I still can't login, but at least there's a connecting message, rather than the client hanging on me.

Progress!

>>6138030
I get this when I try to connect to east.

>>6138759
No it's not ;_;

How do I take screenshots?

Will it automatically save them if I press Print Screen?

>>6138786
I always had a connecting message.

>>6138792
Press your Fraps screenshot button.

>>6138792
Yeah, they're saved in C:\Users\USERNAMEHERE\Documents\Vindictus\Screen Shot

Like my resolution/graphics, /jp/?

Meanwhile at Nexon

>>6138822
That splashing water looks terrible.

>>6138822
Longboat is long.

30 minutes past their announced time and still nothing.

>>6138822
Nice boat.

>>6138822
Nice boat

>>6138822
Nice boat.

>>6138822
Nice Boat

>>6138822
Nice boat.

>>6138836
>>6138838
>>6138840
Epic win, you guys.

>>6138822
Nice boat.

>>6138836
>>6138838
>>6138840
>>6138842
>>6138843
ARCHIVE THIS SHIT MOOTLES

Going on 3 1/2 hours of patching. Still around the area I was an hour and a half ago. Wow.

I stopped playing Transformice for this?!

>>6138833
>>6138836
>>6138838
>>6138840
>>6138842
>>6138843
>>6138846
>>>/v/

>mfw east server is still down

West server here I come

>>6138862
>mfw

Out.

>>6138853
I stopped playing Haven and Hearth for this?!

>>6138863
Don't worry he is.

Patch and aol, everything is going too slow, geez, and is East still down?

>>6138876

Tried it five seconds ago.

Yes.

>>6138876
>and is East still down?

Yeppers. I'm thinking about giving up.

So those who are playing on West, where should we meetup?

>>6138895
Nowhere

>>6138895
>playing on West
Ask here

>>>/v/

>>6138895
>playing on West

What on earth is wrong with the East server that they can't fix it in 2 hours?

>**UPDATE** MAINTENANCE has been extended for 2 additional hour. We are now scheduled to open at 9:00 PM (Pacific) / 12:00 AM (Eastern).

**UPDATE** MAINTENANCE has been extended for 2 additional hour. We are now scheduled to open at 9:00 PM (Pacific) / 12:00 AM (Eastern).
Thank you for your patience.

16 minutes

>>6138876
>is East still down?

From the game's website:
**UPDATE** MAINTENANCE has been extended for 2 additional hour. We are now scheduled to open at 9:00 PM (Pacific) / 12:00 AM (Eastern).
Thank you for your patience.

>>6138907
ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

MY PATIENCE IS GONE, NEXON. AND SO IS MY LIST OF ANIME TO WATCH WHILE I WAIT.

>>6138907
Hahaha well fuck this. So, any of you play Second Life?

Let's anounce a 2 hour delay 2 hours later.

Aw dang it I was waiting all day to play and now the server I want to be on is down....guess I'll just go to sleep.

>>6138909
Thanks nexon for the prompt notice!

You guys, just go playing on West alone for now, so you can do tutorials and shit. Let's pratice for now so we can get to the ass kicking on East later.

>>6138933
Are you fucking kidding us? Second Life? REALLY? Get the fuck out.

>>6138906
Solar powered servers. West is too, but someone on that coast remember to plug some batteries into the system this morning to recharge, so they're fine.

>implying the prologue isn't bugged

>>6138942
>Second Life? REALLY? Get the fuck out.

What, you don't like RPing a cute girl cumdumpster?

Meanwhile at Nexon

>>6138776
I sure don't.

So which server is all those old-school Hotglue fags from ECO gonna play on?

it was good but... meh.

>>6138951
Most RP sims are shit.

>>6138957
Meh?

>>6138957
yeah. My time on the West server was full of "oh this is kinda OK I guess maybe". Definitely not gonna wait around until 1 AM to play it

>>>/v/73231797

LOOKS LIKE LOTS OF /V/ USERS ARE GOING TO EAST BECAUSE IT'S FOR MATURE /V/ USERS SUCH AS THEMSELVES

AHAHAHAHA

>>6138955
East if Nexon ever decides to plug in the server.

>>6138958
That makes finding the good RPers all the more magical. Like the time I got fucked by a futa in a dirty bathroom. She even paid me!

>>6138962
not worth the time and all the AOL shit, etc.

>>6138974
You sure? I haven't played with friends yet, so I can't give out my final veredict.

Besides, I want to try something different, like the hueg guy or some magic type. Or a ranged class.

Well that's another MMO to mark off my anticipation list. I can definitely see the potential but it just isn't my cup of tea

Why does it matter if you're playing on the same server as /v/? It's not like you guys are going to get buddy buddy and chat it up with everyone right?

Dear Players,

We will be perform an unscheduled maintenance on the East and West Vindictus servers on September 16th. During this period, Vindictus will be unavailable. Update will last approximately 3 Hours.

Thank you for your patience, and we apologize for the inconvenience.

-Time-
Pacific: 12:00 AM ~ 03:00 AM, Thursday, September 16, 2010
Eastern: 03:00 AM ~ 06:00 AM, Thursday, September 16, 2010

-What-
Vindictus

- Vindictus team -

I kind of feel sorry for you guys, I'm having a fucking blast.

>>6138997
I'm speechless
Good job Nexon

>>6138979
Don't misunderstand me, the game is good but I just don't feel like doing all the AOL thing for it; it lags like there's no tomorrow (you know, this connection isn't exactly 1st world class), etc.
Oh well, at least I fucked the Illya name

>>6139001
I had lots of fun in the CB, but apparently there's no new content in the pre-OB, so I really don't care that the server is down.

The content can be completely cleared in 3 non-NEET-level days of playing. It's still fun though.

>>6138997

>>6138989
/jp/ is tsundere for /v/

N-no way I'm playing on the same server as you! I-I'd rather play with teenage pubs! Just go die!
I-I'm only doing this quest with you because you h-happened to be around. I-I'm just using you because it's convenient!
W-what? I-its not like I want to play with you, y-you stupid. B-but /jp/ doesn't play so much so I-I'm alone. I-I don't want to play with you at all!
I-I'm only giving you this b-because I-I happened to have a s-spare. D-don't look at me s-so much. Stupid!

i just wish nexon could tell me if i can go to bed or not what the fuck
3am maintenance? OK. got you, but will the server be up before then?

>>6139013
We never asked them to come here.

>>6138997

>>6138997
>We will be perform
>will be perform
Okay, I'm OUT.

>>6139013
何言ってんの！？
そういう訳じゃないんだからね！！

It's okay, they apologize.

>>6138997
Ohh, so that wasn't my proxy being a dead piece of shit.

>>6139008
Yeah, well, that's why I wanna try the East server, it should be a bit better.

>Oh well, at least I fucked the Illya name
You son of a bitch

Wait, does it means that i'm patching this shit for nothing? WHY

>>6138997
I told you the servers were going to blow up.

>>6138828

This.

http://forum.nexon.net/Vindictus/forums/permalink/5703914/5703991/ShowThread.aspx#5703991
>Oh, the pleasures of being 17. I'll just stay up all night and drink coffee and play M rated games and stuff.

The best part about this? East still isn't up.

I'm going to sleep.

>>6139057
What the fuck are you doing on their forums? Shit.

It's over /jp/, lets back to Umineko, Fairy wars, Recettear, etc...

>>6139088

Recettear and Big Bang Age for me first now.

Also attempting to get through Ef's VN.

Gave it a quick test run on west, kinda feels like a Koei game. Unsure whether that is good or bad but I like the feel of it.

I'm off to sleep. going to give it a proper test on East tomorrow.

Vindictus Players,

We are currently aware that some of you may be experiencing problems connecting to the East Server. Our team is currently looking into this issue and we hope to have it fixed shortly. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

- Vindictus Team -


Just got to bed, /jp/. It'll be here someday. ;_;

For whom doth the bell toll?

>>6139129
>some of you may be experiencing problems

So some people are already playing on East and registering all of the good names? Fuck.

>>6139073
Forum trolling is an essential part of Hotglutes culture. Very /v/.

Christ, even in AG3 boobs don't shake that much.

This is why they avoided making long-haired people in HalfLife 2.

OH GOD IT'S UP

>>6139179
Hair clipping happens a lot in games so they usually give the female a ponytail or some other way to tie her hair up and get it out of the way.

Christ, my patcher is still at the en- stage.Gonna be pretty pissed off if my wanted names are taken.

>>6139180
For only two hours... tch.
So right now we can only choose the homo and the cow?

East is up now. Finally got to see what I forgot to see in closed beta.

>>6139218

Yay I snagged the name I wanted.

>>6139234
Why would you want a shitty name of some shitty anime character? Go back to /a/.

Get on channel 112 sillies!

>>6139252
Its no sadder than using names of touhous or VN characters.

>>6139193
Me too. Going on 5 hours patching now.

>>6139234
I reserved Kyonko so I can name the mage character that whenever they actually give her to us

How the fuck do I change eyebrow color?

Hey guys

>>6139218

How many characters can I make for free?

They nerfed underwear color for OB. Enjoy your brown shitpants ;_;

Naked runs won't be nearly as fun now.

>>6139357
>stained underwear

You make it sound as if /jp/ considers that a turnoff.

>>6139340
Four, I think.

Why is everyone wearing a robe except me? Do I need to find one too?

>>6139415
It's a lag countermeasure, you can disable it somewhere on the bottom bar.

East is up.

>>6139464
Hello, Slowpoke

Does the game use analog stick? Like, will the character walk if I only press up slightly, and run when I push all the way up?

And i'm still patching since almost 2 hours, it's normal, right?

I placeheld my name, then deleted to remake, and now its saying the name is being used. How long do I have to wait?

East server channel 200 sure is great!

>>6139730
A large clump of us are on Ch.112, come join us ヽ(=ﾟωﾟ)人(ﾟωﾟ=)ﾉ

>>6139730
We decided last minute to stick to channel 112.

Sure was fun grinding and not talking to anyone.

So where do we get keys for this? The news page seems to be rather vague.

So was East server worth the wait?
I joined west to see how the game would run, it's not that bad. Taking it easy for the maintenance.

>>6139937
>So was East server worth the wait?

Look here:
>>6139730

Can anyone hook me up with a beta key?

>>6139970
Here is one right here *grabs dick*

Nobody has any keys left?