/jp/ - Otaku Culture

first
you all suck

>>5949744
Oh look it's this guy again.

>>5949749
sage

>>5949744
Wow, I knew Umineko attracted faggotry to the board, but this...

>>5949744
>>5949756
You have a nice anger stat but you need to report more.

From the last thread, the Japanese have it all figure out:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9080754

reported the post with the pic of cats eating an innocent man

i've been playing EP7 VN since i got it 19hours ago until 3 min ago i finished whole vn
so i didnt catch up the discussion here
but i am confidence to say that the wohle EP7 can be conclude as:

Bernkastel: Hey, I want to play a game with you
and
Bernkastel: lol i troll you

damn i miss Erika.

>>5949811
Yeah. I hated Erika with a passion at the end of episode 5, so I was indifferent to her until the end of episode 6. I thought she went out as a good villain but I really miss her now...

>>5949768
youtube link? ;_;

Shkanontrice being confirmed feels good man

>>5949811
>>5949820
who is Erika?

>>5949829
Damn you Bern. ;_;

>>5949826
Somebody just readed half of the spoilers

So far this episode is actually turning out to be one of my favorites.

>>5949835
Somebody just readed the episode.

This episode is fucking awesome.

And I never thought I would ever say that about the episode that confirms and explores Shkanontrice.

WHEN WILL WALKS INTO THE ROOM PANTIES HIT THE FLOOR

GODDAMN HE IS A SMOOTH MOTHERFUCKER

Ryukishi needs to stop this shit with 20 new characters every episode and key characters appearing in the 7th game when we're supposed to be able to solve it in 4 games.

>>5949850
Boxers hit the floor too.

>>5949845
Then somebody should explain the other somebody why Shkanontrice isnt even viable anymore

>>5949856
I wish Will would rape me. ;_;

>>5949856
Man, good thing Will has a gender equality policy.

>>5949859
This somebody wonders how delusional somebody can be, more delusional than yasu at least

>>5949863
God he is such a bro. Leon was so moe when he was concerned that Will wouldn't like him if he had a dick, and Will...;_;

>>5949859
Shkanontrice is pretty much absolutely confirmed in this episode, and I'm saying this as someone who hated it with a frothing passion before. But Ryukishi actually pulled it off in a well-done way. Shit is sad and touching, and it doesn't feel like it ruins Battler x Beatrice.

Will reminds me of Keichi-kun a bit.

>>5949874
It's also creepy. dat music when Will tries to force Shannon to bring kanon

Will: ''I will now summon Shannon and Kanon at the same time.''

>>5949829

Will is R07's dream reader.

If Will is not in ep. 8 I will lose all faith in the idea that there is justice in the world.

I fucking love how Will just sort of strolls in and solves everything in about five minutes that it took Battler five episodes to do.

>>5949891
To be fair he had a super hax power that gets everyone to tell their stories to him

Shannon going all denpa when requested to summon Kanon was a definitely a highlight of EP7.

>>5949896
>super hax power
THE POWER OF DICK PREVAILS

This is who will reminds me of. Pity Battler is voiced by daisuke ono.

>>5949885
you mean dream lover, right?

>>5949905
Both. R07 wants his reader to love him.

What exactly happens with Shannon in that scene? Was anything relevant to the murders revealed?

I did actually like the Nazi gold subplot from what I've seen of it.

>>5949904
Speaking of voices why the hell did they pick Kugyu to play Shanon?Her voice does not fit her at all.

>>5949910
It was actually Ryu07 who picked so ask him

I still deny Dyke Archer Kinzo even after seeing him and Nazi Beato in front of my eyes... it's just... too much...

Shannon and Kanon are both Imaginary
Shannon and Kanon ''true form'' is Yasu

(This part already denies 50% of Shkanontrice, that affirmed Sayo being the real personality and just a batshit insane rape victim)

A servant cant be the culprit.

Shannon and Kanon cant exist in the same place at the same place, this is further proven by Will when he cant convince Shannon to show up beside Kanon (she breaks etc)

Soon after, Leon shows up and talk to both of them, showing that while Kanon and Shannon cant both appear at the same time, he/she and Shannon can.

Thus Lion =/= Yasu

If Yasu isnt the heir of the family he/she cant bipass the red that forbides a servant from being the culprit.

Meanwhile in a world where Lion exists, Beatrice cannot exist. So if Lion =/= Beatrice who truly is Yasu?

You should be able to solve this /jp/

Wait, so there's a guy named Wright wearing blue clothes, with implied homolust between him and his red-suited effeminate friend. He solves a complete clusterfuck of a murder case that heavily involves the red-suited man and an old, extremely badass man by getting everyone to tell him the truth.
And it's one of the best chapters yet.
Coincidence? I think not.
Coincidence? I think not.

>>5949937
lol who?

>>5949937
No. I read the episode and I was vehemently anti-Shkanontrice before.

Leon is unambiguously Yasu. Yasu is unambiguously Shannon. And Shannon is unambiguously Beato. You see it all play out in detail.

I just didn't believe Ryukishi could actually pull it off and make me like it and bawwww my eyes out, but he fucking did it.

>>5949937
Missed the part where Lion didn't even know who Shannon and Kanon were and Shannon and Kanon didn't even know him, didn't you. The world Will is in at first is a stitched together version of many kakeras, like a cat box. That is how Will and Shannon and Kanon all exist together, but their memories do not add up. Like Jessica and Maria's stories where the seating arrangement doesn't make sense if Lion exists.

when usually new portrait comes out?

>>5949937
>I ctrl'd through episode 7 and/or saw screenshots but never played, here is my theory anyway though

>>5949944
Oh goddamnit.

>>5949954
Is any of that said in red? No. Whose game is this? Is the gamemaster trustworthy? Christ you fags are stupid.

>>5949944
You mean Naruhodo Ryuichi?

>>5949977
Get out.

>>5949988
That picture is everything that made me love EP7 and more.

>>5949944
>>5949977
.........what is this i dont even

>>5949990
Did you forget about the butt pinching?

>>5950000
Is it humanly possible to forget about the butt pinching?

>>5950003
Good point.

>>5949944
>with implied homolust
>implied
No...it was right in your face.

People who read EP7 I ask one question. Does Rosa do anything significant in this episode?

>>5950018
In both cases, even!

>>5950019
Rocket launcher Rosa blowns Kyrie

>>5950019
She just repeats to Will what we already knew about her meeting with Beatrice. With the additional information that she called Genji late and night and spilled the beans.

>>5950019
She thinks she's a virgin, then ded

What the.......

>mfw Leon turns out to be a girl

>>5950023
Yeah, that was messy, what was she thinking?

>>5950027
that Rosa said that?!

>>5950031
>my face when gender is never confirmed even at end of series

>>5950024

That's it. Kind of dissapointing :/

>>5949976
But, it's not about closed rooms anymore. Wright has the "Spectator's authority", which means he can't be presented with bullshit. The flashbacks's authenthicity shouldn't be challenged.
>>5949954
So, am I right in thinking Yasu and Lion coexist in the funeral service kakera? Because we see Lion and Shannon talking to each other, with Wright present

>>5950027
>Rosa
>virgin
...My god, she must be even stupider than I thought. Rosa, why do you make me hate you even though I want to like you? ;_;

...At least Eva's a bro.

>>5950044
How about looking at what they actually say to each other instead of saying "hey they were present together shkanontrice denied"?

>>5950044
They coexist. The funeral service kakera is Lion being accepted kakera + lion being rejected kakera at the same time.

>>5950047

Since when was Rosa ever honest or not a bitch?

>>5950044
See >>5949958 , he has it right.

>>5950062
I know. I know. She lies, treats Maria like shit and most of the time comes off as a huge bitch to everyone but still... I can't bring myself to totally dislike her. Is that bad?

>>5950033
That is cute

>my face when diehard shkanontrice deniers accept the obvious at last and my long vigil is over and on top of that shkanontrice is a lot more interesting and well presented than initially thought

>>5950077

No it's not bad. I also feel the same with Bern to an extent

>>5950049
how about you think about what you're posting? I wasn't trying to deny your precious little pet theory (pretty much anyone who denies Yasu = Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice means he hasn't read this episode), just asking confirmation about things since my moon isn't perfect yet.
>>5950064
>>5950058
Thanks.

So, what if Maria is not actually Rosa's daughter? Would explain her rage at being seen as divorcee with child without actually having been one.

>>5950077
Seeing her 4th in popularity poll, you're not alone.

>>5950098

If Maria wasn't her child then why not put Maria to adaption?....Well unless the fucker left his child to her but still.

>>5950098
I've actually had this theory for a very long time. It would explain why she hates her so much. But who's daughter would she be if not Rosa's? Poor Maria.

>>5950098
Maybe she's been raped and now being delusional about it.
Or Maria is Jesus.

Anyone has the Pony theory explanation pic?

>>5950132
Some of aspects of the Pony Theory ended up being surprisingly accurate, actually. For example, Genji and Kumasawa hiding "Beatrice" from Kinzo to protect her.

>>5950137
Also, holy shit was Shannon/Shannon-Beato fucking obsessed with that white horse.

>>5950118

Rosa being delusional seems plausable espescially at EP6 when she was talking about her lover who left her.

Man why is it that all the women (espescially the mothers) in umineko have problems?
Natsuhi: delusional
Eva: slightly insane (when in pressure) and trigger happy.
Rosa: Short tempered, abusive and ruthless.
Kyrie: insane with murdering intent

>>5950118

but like >>5950044 has said, Rosa cannot tell bullshit to Will..that means she being a virgin is true???i'm so confused

Has any of the 7's OST been uploaded anywhere yet? I saw a couple on youtube before it was released but nothing since then.

>>5950142
Rosa never said anything to Will about Maria's birth. All the weird shit about immaculate conception with Maria was told to him by Maria herself, her magic delusion to justify not having a father.

>>5950146
http://www.mediafire.com/?qbugpdyoddf024j

>>5950142
She probably thinks that she really is/was a virgin when she had Maria.

>>5950146

http://www.mediafire.com/?6hsgc1sh5dnlsu4

Here you go.

red text:
> Will: It is forbidden for an employee to be the criminal. This is the 11th rule of Van Dine's 20 rules of the detective story.

>>5950152
ooooooooooooh ok that cleared some shit up

>>5950154
>>5950160

Much thanks

I've been uncomfortable about the part that Kyrie kills Jessi...
that really enrage me

>>5950169

No prob. Always glad to help.

Will's introduction part:
The servant is amazed at his words and ask for his name while thanking him. He comments about half-hearted reasoning being unforgivable. He says that the servant's boyfriend is also working to free her. She should find happiness with her boyfriend.

this part makes me think about George and Shannon:
Is George a culprit or someone who knows the truth, but can't tell it, because he want to save his girl?

>>5950108
>But who's daughter would she be if not Rosa's?
are you expecting Kinzo to stop incesting? He raped Yasu as well before seeing him in Beatrice's dress and dying, and did the same adoption thing with Rosa. She doesn't have Natsuhi's strictness, and since she's the last in succession, would love to have something that'd put her in the race again, i.e. Kinzo's child.

>>5950171

It was revenge for EP6. Kyrie didn't appriciate being burned to death. To be honest Rudolf killing George was more sad. I mean George crying made me feel bad (also did it really take 3 shots to kill him? I mean damn Rufolf your shooting skills suck)

>>5950181
Kinzo never did anything to Yasu.

>>5950181

...Now that I think about it, this would make so much sense. But Kinzo also hates Maria with a fiery passion, so I kind of doubt that he's Maria's father.

> Kyrie didn't appriciate being burned to death
long long time ago witches ended their days in this way

>>5950186
Then Yasu is a fucking attention whore.

>>5950183
Rudolf should understand George the most out this family, because George is doing something that Rudolf could or couldn't do.

Kyrie should understand Jessica the most, because both Jessica should remind Kyrie's position the past

Anyone watch the 7th UMG? If so, what was your opinion of asymmetric cry? I thought it was pretty fitting for the episode.

>>5950181
Kinzo raped his daughter with Beatrice Castiglione, not Yasu. Yasu is their son/daughter.
Yasu was sent to an orphanage after Natsuhi threw him off a cliff, and he was abused and bullied.

>>5950207
The song was okay, but the UMG was pretty awful, in my opinion. Where is bride Erika?

>>5950209
Yep. Genji was WTF at what Kinzo did to Beatrice Castiglione's daughter, and that's why he hid Yasu as a servant. When Kinzo and Yasu finally meet, Kinzo cries, apologizes, and treats Yasu as his child.

>>5950210
I guess she wasn't important enough to put in the UMG, lol. Yeah, it wasn't the best one for certain. The 5th UMG is by far my favorite one.

>>5950205

Kyrie in EP6 did try to serve as a mentor to Jessica by telling her story to encourage jessica to 'Harevest her love' (Or something like that)

I woudn't really take the whole Tea party in EP7 as the truth or true character portrayals.

>>5950209
>he
Will says Lion's sex is one of the game's mysteries. It wasn't made clear. Nobody even mentioned anything that said Lion was male or female. Jessica for instance didn't say older sister brother or older brother.

>>5950217

Jessica doesn't even know her sibling's gender. the hell?

>>5950220
Oh, she would have known it. It's just that she didn't use a term that made it clear.

>>5950205
I understood that scene as Rudolf and Kyrie was beating them , because they were going to get what Kyrie and Rudolf couldn't get themselves.

>mfw Yasu turns out not to be Leon and Leon turns out to be male

>>5950223
Yasu is absolutely confirmed to be Leon. It cannot possibly be clearer. I don't mean this in an episode 6 Shkanontrice sense. I mean in the game it actually says plainly that Leon is Yasu. The whole first part of the game deals with Will uncovering this fact.

>>5950222

But...Kyrie did get what she wanted didn't she? of course after 18 years of personal hell but she got it in the end.

>>5950216
I think the killing happened in this way they were shown, but the reason is something else.

>>5950220
u shouldn't be suprised.
jessica is always out of the loop, kinda like gohda.
lols again at jessitrice fags.

>>5950227
This. Again, the game goes through the entire process in unambiguous detail. Leon and Will's scenes watching what's going on revolve around the fact that Yasu is AU Leon. Leon gets freaked out about it and Will has to reassure him.

>>5950228
that's why, George and Jessica is going to do get it easier, without less mistakes

I can't wait for EP8. Damn, I'd like to see those 4 kick some ass together.

>Captcha: swooki FAMILIES

>>5950227
Okay. If Yasu is Leon, and in the other Rokkenjima where Natsuhi rejects him turns out to be a murderer, how does that coincide with the rules of Knox? We don't learn about Yasu till episode 7. He's definitely not in the earlier part of the story, because we don't even learn an unknown member of the family exists until episode 5. Yasu IS the culprit in the other Rokkenjima, right? Or did I misunderstand something.

Not completely off topic.......

Is there any1 normal in rokkenjima?
Gohda? Battler? that's pretty much it and these two are pretty pathetic most of the time.

>>5950246
Yasu is Shannon, anon. What we learn in this ep is just filling in the details of his/her backstory, a lot of which could be deduced, even without the story of Natsuhi's baby in EP5.

Again, the pony theory actually got a ton of details right, it's just that it was Shannon. And the pony theory never involved Natsuhi's baby.

>>5950246
I'm not 100% either. but 7 is alternate universe, no battler and no beato. yasu/lion or whatever you wanna call him may/may not exist in 1-6 rokkenjima

There are 17 people on Rokkenjima yet Erika said in red that she's the 18th person. Was this answered?

>>5950252
Blah... Yasu, Shannon? This is hard to understand for me. I'm going to have to read it myself before I can fully grasp ep. 7 it seems. Damn you Witch Hunt.

>>5950257
Yes. It was answered by:

Who's Erika?

>>5950209
>Kinzo raped his daughter with Beatrice Castiglione, not Yasu. Yasu is their son/daughter.
I know that. We're talking about the possibility of Kinzo raping Yasu as well and producing Maria.
He hates her and IRC they say he was against naming her Maria.
Consider that Kinzo called his daughter "Beatrice" like her mother, and would likely do the same to each daughter. He could have also begun to hate her because she didn't turn out to be a perfect clone/lookalike of Beatrice like Beatrice2 and Yasu did.

>>5950246
Because you don't need to know all that necessarily to solve it. Take the pony theory. That was on the right track, except the crucial detail that the person doesn't disguise as Shannon, but IS Shannon. And Kanon as well. This theory came about after ep5, but before episode 5's translation and it wasn't based on any episode 5 facts. Shkanon theory also existed at this time. The problem was people were using Shkanon to sneak this person onto the island as the 17th person, or saying that once someone dies then the number goes down so someone can sneak in.

They were actually really close. I think that shows it was solvable.

ya in ep6 end, she's not real, look at your TIPS for ep6. her existance denied.
>>5950257

>>5950267
Again, Kinzo never did anything to Yasu. It's really clear. And it's really clear that it's not ambiguous about. Rosa being Maria's mom. Maria was just babbling at Will about fantasy justifications for not having a dad.

Hmm. On another note:

Ep6 where Maria says "I'll kill you just like mama killed all the others!" Was there ever an explanation for this?

>>5950256
Yasu exists in episodes 1-6. Lion has a 1 in 2,578,917 of existing since that's the chance of Natsuhi accepting the baby. If Lion existed in episodes 1-6 you would know right away since there would be no epitaph, and there would suddenly be someone else on the island who is by no means a secret. When the spoilers first started coming someone said there are alternate Rokkenjimas where Yasu exists and where Lion does instead and episode 1 and 2 are alternate like this. That is wrong.

>>5950256
Battler simply chose not to return (since the succession fight is settled by Lion presence and so Rudolph doesn't need Battler's weight to push around), and Beatrice can't coexist with Lion, since she's a byproduct of Yasu and lack of successor's stories.

>>5950286
Siestas/Sakutarou?

>>5950257
The eighteenth Human.
But there are 17 people.
A corpse can be human without being a perso, thus not being a part of those 17 people.
And, because she killed 5 people while trying to corner Battler (circumventing Knox's 1st) we can say that piece-Erika represented someone else in the board, while the real Erika was dead.

>>5950287
(Also the legend of Beatrice doesn't even exist when Lion does)

by the way does anyone know the name Yasu used formally in orphange (i mean the name that attached a non in the end)
i am not quite sure whether it;s mentioned or not cause i am a little dizzy for spending too long on vn now...

>>5950296
Or Erika existed in 5 and 6 but the reality when you open the cat box is that Erika never got to that island alive? I always liked this explanation more than Erika having to be Jessica or Genji.

>>5949874
Oh fuck yes it ruined Battler x Beato.
Because, you know, Battler DIED.

Like episode 8 may be Battler's versions of events, but everyone is still gonna be dead at the end.

>>5949988
.....What the fuck is Battler doing to Jessica's hand?

>>5950307
That's Will.
When he introduces himself to Jessica he kisses her hand. She blushes, and he looks at her with a serious expression and asks if he did something wrong.

One day i will be as Manly as Will and as Fabulous as Leon
Then i will be GOD

>>5950267
I support the 'Maria is the result of incest' theory.

>>5950312
God, I love Will so much.

>>5950290
>>5950287
yasu and lion are samefag but just thrown off the cliff or not right? yasu at ofanage and lion as heir?

>>5950326
Yep.

>>5950326
Yes, that's right.

>>5950312
Oh, well that's nice.

Still, I don't feel for Leon at the end of the day. He was bullied at the orphanage, but DID have friends in Jessica and George, Just because Battler didn't show up with a pony DOES NOT FUCKING MAKE IT OK FOR HIM TO KILL EVERYONE.

Even moreso now that the plausible Kinzo rape theory is out of the question.

>>5950329
so what ppl are saying is that yasu was in 1-6 rokkenjima? and sayo is not original of shkanontrice?

>>5950300
That's the point.
You can show Erika alive as long as the red doesn't confirm she's dead.
But she killed those people ignoring Knox's 1st
(It is forbidden for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the story.)
Now, you can argue that Culprit =/= Killer, but then why did she go out of her way to not be the detective of that episode?
(Knox's 7th: It is forbidden for the detective to be the culprit.)

>>5950335
Yes. Sayo/Yoshiya are both made up by Yasu.

>>5950335
No, Yasu is the original personality. S/He made Shannon because s/he had a friend at the orphanage that looked like her, and s/he made Kanon because it's his bad side. Or something like this, I haven't read the episode yet.

>>5950338
rage.

captcha loath excluche

>>5950332
We actually don't know if Leon/Beatrice killed everyone. I'd say the feel is the opposite, actually. The Tea Party is absolutely fucking brutal.

Ugh, the only masterminds we have left are Joji, Nanjo, and Jessica.

Or perhaps Yasoleonshannonkanontrice did it all because of LOVE.

Making this entire series pointless, as everyone died because some dude really, REALLY wanted to be the little girl.

>>5950320
if ep7 version of the epitaph is right and not just "one theory Bern shows us", the sweetfish river is just a railway.

Yasu breaks the 1st fucking Knox.
It was never implied in every way that he/she exists.

>>5950349
I don't know about you guys, but if the mastermind turns out to be Joji or Jessica I will be very disappointed.

>>5950336
There is a much better argument to this.

Each episode is its own mystery. 5 and 6 in particular stand apart from the main mysteries of 1-4.
"(It is forbidden for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the story.)"
This would traditionally apply to a single story. Not a story like Umineko where there are multiple mysteries in multiple worlds.

Think about the premise of the rule. The problem is if the rule is disobeyed, then the crime happens, but you haven't even met the person who committed that crime yet, so how can you solve it? You can't solve the whodunnit.

In this sense episode 6 does not betray this rule. You were introduced to Erika well before those deaths happened, in the previous episode.

>>5950347
Think back to the locked rooms and murders in all the episodes, don't just take episode 7 into account.

The issue is not who does the murders, as Leon definitely does a good chunk of them, the issue is that is someone manipulating him?


Captcha: Four personality

>>5950338
So yasu made sayo and yoshi who are shannon and kanon who made beato?

yasu wasn't even mentioned as a person 1-6 so he can't be culprit?

>>5950354
There are hints for Shkanontrice all over episode 1-4. You don't actually need to know that Yasu exists and all the details of that. Knowing that Shannon, Kanon and Beatrice are acted out by the same person is enough.

Also yasu isn't the culprit

>>5950355
Joji I wouldn't like, but Jessica is something I'm coming around to. The more and more we read Umineko, the more and more fucked up we see the family is.

>>5950349
RED TEXT
> - Will: It is forbidden for an employee to be the criminal. This is the 11th rule of Van Dine's 20 rules of the detective story.
we are only left with Jessica and george

>>5950356
The Early part of the story would mean the first four episodes. Erika definitely breaks the rule since she's part of the meta-world.

>>5950361
Yasu also made Beato. Or became Beato. You could say maybe the true identity of Yasu is Beato.

>>5950365
I can only wonder at Jessica's reason for massacring her entire family.

>>5950368
Why would it mean the first four episodes?

This defies the premise of the rule, which is "a crime occurs but you haven't been introduced to the person who committed it yet so you cannot possibly solve the whodunnit"

Erika does not kill anyone in 1-4. 1-4 is irrelevant to Erika. Erika obeys Knox 1st for being the culprit in episode 6.

>>5950356
>>5950368
Each episode is its own mystery.
Erika cannot be culprit as culprit is SAME in ALL games, culprit defined as mastermind not killer.

>>5950371
One can only wonder about Joji's as well, but Jessica's could be resentment. Kinzo is CONFIRMED FOR KEEPING IT IN THE FAMILY, after all.

And you combine this with Jessica's pronounced dislike for Beatrice and Kinzo, well, it's possible.

I hope that the culprit is one of the adults. Seriously, it would be pretty predictable if it turns out to be FAT, Jessica or Yasushkannontrice.

>>5950363
Still, Yasu is a completely different person.
Shkanon is the only thing that was implied. Never the person behind them.

Also, you guys kept on screaming that "Shkanon = DID meido" since it was never implied that they're really delusions.

>>5950356
Touché.
But then how can you explain the final reds without arguing that Erika is dead?
You can say that she was neither alive nor dead using the Schrödinger Cat's analogy, but when the reds were said, you would have to deal with a potential Logic Error.

>>5950367
Even if you say that Shkanontrice can go around that by saying yasu is ok because he is not JUST as servant but rightful heir.

>>5950381
Bah. I bet Joji's would be something completely boring like "I did it all because the family would never accept Shannon and I! If they won't accept Shannon, I'll build my own family that does!"

Jessica's reason however...I wouldn't really mind Jessica going batshit because Kinzo is obsessed with incest.

>>5950381
Based on the tea party, Kyrie is, at minimum, absolutely behind Episode 4 and almost certainly Episode 3.

She and Rudolf really are portrayed as the culprits, to be honest. Leontrice really doesn't come off as malicious. Kyrie shoots her early on.

>>5950384
Krass and Natsushi, Rudolf and Kyrie, Eva and Hydeyoshi are denied to be the culprits. I'm not sure about Rosa.

>>5950377
I didn't read your post clearly. Damn, i need to sleep.

>>5950393
>>shannon exists.

Okay so, we know that the adults (except Krauss and Natsuhi) can snap and become murderers.
So one of them can the mastermind? If not why? I haven't read EP7 yet.

>>5950391
With the final red, Beatrice and Battler are referring to the fact that there was no 18th person there during the true Rokkenjima incident. That's what I believe. Erika introduces herself as the 18th, but her being the 18th only applies to her being written into the tale by speculation. This doesn't mean Erika doesn't exist in episode 5 and 6, in my interpretation. She existed there, but in the tale proper, she is irrelevant and dead.

>>5950384
Barring Gohda and Nanjo, we're basically done with culprits. The red herring was Kyrie the whole time, and while perhaps she proved that she is an evil bitch, she didn't prove that she caused everything.

The reason I say Jessica is not because I think she wants money, love, or something else, I very well think she might be the only one nihilistic enough to do it. We're not dealing with a sane person here. And if Leon isn't indeed the mastermind, Jessica being the culprit is likely. All depends on what, if anything, happened to her.

>>5950396
Yeah I'm still on the "Kyrie and Rudolf confirmed as culprits" bandwagon. At least Kyrie. That ticket she had never was explained.

Well, Jessica is blonde. She could have dressed up as Beatrice because her Grandpa told her to. Also, Krauss is a pussy and is afraid of his father, and Natsuhi is delusional. Yeah, she would have pretty good reasons to murder her family.

>>5950393
Same here. If there is a mastermind behind Leon, it's most likely a broken OH GOD MY LIFE IS BANANAS Kohaku villain.

Currently translating my favorite parts. If this one was already posted, then sorry, but it was just awesome:


During the tea party after Bern is finished with Ange, she teleports herself and Lion to the world where he wasn't dropped off the cliff. Since he argued that Kyrie couldn't be that evil (and he can't co-exist with Claire), Bern decided to show him something. It's late evening of Oct. 6 and they see... a corpse of Lion. Bern explains what happened: On that day Lion is turned 20 and officially inherits the title of the Family Head. UNLESS someone solves the epitaph. This kakera follows the same pattern, Adults work together and solve the epitaph, Kyrie and Rudolph kill everyone, and call out the children with the 'Test' thingie. Lion, being the first-ranked amongst !!!Male cousins!!! is called out first and killed by Kyrie. Then Will appears to save the day, currently translating from this point to the end of the tea party. Stay tuned.

Is yasu confirmed as original in previous games?
couldn't yasu AU sayo, their names are similar so it seems likely.

i don't think battler would make pony promise with guy, though gender not confirmed so it could be sayo??

And you guys thought episode 7 would kill it!

>>5950402
Battler's family and Eva(Hydeyoshi tries to save Eva) and Rosa kills for money and accident. So they can't be the culprits.

And employee can't be the culprit too.

>>5950419
*Oct. 4 - selffix

>>5950419
Will is such a knight in shining armor. I love him so much.

>There are 17 people on Rokkenjima.

Why can't Battler say this in GOLD?

>>5950422
DAMN YOU MOON-CHAN!!!!

>>5950419
>first amongst male cousins
Okay, so then Leon is male.

Natsuhi shot first.

All tales about Eva killing her have been grossly exaggerated.

>>5950429
why would he?

>>5950419
When the tea party showed Rudolf and Kyrie orchestrating that fucking Episode 4 test, I screamed.

The "Battler could fool Erika by realizing magic scenes are just that, fantasy bullshit" implies red truth and Knox rules are bullshit anyway.
Wright solves shit with the Spectator's authority, not red truth. So his rules as well are moot.

>>5950437
I screamed in triumph as Eva became Kenshiro Batman.

>>5950431
we know that Eva didn't want to kill
that was and accident

>>5950440
THAT TOO

>>5950422
Faking Asthma, I fucking knew it. Sneaky little bitch.

>>5950434
Just to clear things up.

>>5950437
>>5950440
only screams like kinzo's desire here, need to read.....WITCH HUNT!!!!!!

>>5950437
#Among the five people in Kyrie's group, he was the first to die.

So Shkanontrice re-confirmed(guys really episode six wasn't exactly subtle on the matter), Kyrie culprit denied, Moon-chan gains a slight edge, Eva is the Dark Knight.

All in all, not bad.

This game is without Love. Thus, Battler ignoring the whole game.

>>5950448
MEANWHILE, AT WITCH HUNT...

>Requiem of the Golden Witch
Translation: 0% Editing: 0%

>>5950419
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.

Wait.

Solves the epitaph? In Lion's world the epitaph doesn't even exist. I call bullsit.

Kyrie = most disappointing character ever.

Hyped as the smartest on the island, end up just as a crazy bitch without subtlety who isn't even the true mastermind.

Meanwhile, at witch-hunt...

>>5950461
LOVE IS WHEN PEOPLE DIE HORRIBLY VIA MOE MOE STAKES.

HATE IS WHEN PEOPLE DIE HORRIBLY VIA SHOTGUNS.

>>5950456
kannon ALWAYS DIE

>>5950463
FUCKING WITCH HUNT HURRY UP
IT HAS ALREADY BEEN 3 DAYS

>>5950461
He's ignoring it because it lacks murderous ass nee-chans. Also, no Beato.

FAT FAT FAT might as well be confirmed as the culprit.

>>5950459
Moon-chan gets no edge.

Seriously, actually reading the tea party, it is really hard to get away from KYRIE CULPRIT KYRIE CULPRIT KYRIE CULPRIT.

>>5950425
>Battler's family and Eva(Hydeyoshi tries to save Eva) and Rosa kills for money and accident. So they can't be the culprits.
The red text is referring to Beatrice's goal not the mastermind? I'm lost.

>>5950468
Download the game. Extract the graphics. You can see the Quadrillion and Lordu shit. I think it's in the Tea Party

>>5950406
That's a way to interpret it.
The problem I have with this is, if the core arcs were meant to help the reader, then adding a new character and making him/her the culprit wouldn't serve that purpose.
A second problem is, if the reds can be used to describe Rokkenjima Prime, and also the mystery that is being presented in each episode, then how would we distinguish each one?
Umineko would be unsolvable.
But, this is just a matter of interpretation in the end. Both alternatives are possible.

>>5950471
The whole thing is solvable in Episodes 1-4. Things really made sense in those. Look at what happened at EP5-7.

Next episode will be "There is no Golden Witch"

OH DEAR LORD.

YASU CREATED A PERSONA CALLED SHANNON. THIS PERSONA FELL IN LOVE WITH BATTLER BUT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH SO THIS PERSONA CREATED BEATRICE.

PERSONAS IN PERSONAS IN PERSONA MAN

>>5950468
it's not bullshit
it's about Yasu who pretends to be a servant, if someone solves the epitaph, then Yasu loses all his chances to become a heir

Remember what Rudolf said in EP1 (orignal event)?

"I think I am going to die tonight."

He said that IN FRONT of Kyrie.
So either:
1)He wanted to show he is going to rebell against her plan.
2)Rudolf knows about Yasu or Battler's sin and Kyrie isn't the mastermind

>>5950487
Real men use Personae as plural, fag.

>>5950469

Only in Bern's truth. Kyrie isn't [that] insane. Seriously EP8 better show some real truth with Kyrie being Badass.

>>5950481
Oh it's quite easy. Kyrie is reacting to a situation, she's not actively causing it. Her and Rudolf are being thugs, more or less.

Not that I care, Kyrie could be the mastermind, she could be anything, Eva still shoots the fuck out of her and becomes Batman.

>>5950488
What?

Yasu exists in the world where baby is dropped off the cliff. Beatrice's legend comes to exist in this world, so does epitaph.

Lion exists in the world where he is isn't. Beatrice's legend does not come to exist in this world, nor does the epitaph.

This guy's "translation" doesn't fit with this so I call bullshit.

Well, this confirmed too. Claire = Beatrice.

残念だったわね、クレル。 いいえ、 ベアトリーチェ。

>>5950492
>Kyrie isn't that insane
>Kyrie
>not insane

Uhh... did you read episode 6? When she talked about how much she hated Asumu and how she got the resolve to murder her, she came off as pretty fucking insane...

>>5950481
Except Kyrie didn't plan anything and therefore can't be the culprit.

Did she know about the bomb? No, someone activated it and it wasn't her.
Did she write the letter? No, and the pin number only has meaning for Beatrice.
Does she care about the epitaph? No, she doesn't care at all about magic and shit.

>>5950487
You forget Kanon, who fell in love with Jessica. Supposedly.

It is really simple.

We have Yasu = Beato 2/3 (I don't remember which one).

Now we have two paths.

1)Yasu falls off the cliff and becomes Shannon/Kanon (orginal event/true event timeline).

2)Yasu didn't fall off the cliff and becomes Leon ("What if..." world presented in EP7)

So in theory YES, we have Yasuleonshkannontrice.

>>5950484
I think this is probably the only red that pulls something like this. If it's the truth, it's not that hard to figure out with her execute TIPS that state the message bottle fakers writing her into stories.

>>5950490
Rudolf and Kyrie kill for the money. That's why they can't be the masterminds.

>>5950496

I said THAT insane. I'm not implying she's not.

>>5950495
Also, Claire twisted this reality too and became a martyr. Also, she was the one who sent message in the bottle.
Also, the bomb can be diffused, Beato has the card that stops the process. Explosion always occurs because someone wants to conceal the truth.

Yasu is just a nickname.
Real name can still be Sayo.
Doesn't change much from the old ShKanontrice theory

>>5950490
3) Rudolf was going along with Kyrie's plan but he was scared. He didn't want to actually kill Battler. He wanted Kyrie to know that Battler really was his son, but he thought he would probably be killed after telling her that.

>>5950506
Now I'm lost.

Geez the more I read the more confusing this becomes... dammit Witch Hunt, get your thumbs out of your asses and get to translating already!!!

Oh dear lord, Kinzorape was confirmed in this episode, just not with who we assumed it was.
KINZO YOU SICK FUCK, YOU ARE NO FUCKING ARCHER, MY FRIEND.

>>5950320
That would at least explain her retardation.

>>5950512
>He wanted Kyrie to know that Battler really was his son
HER son I mean

For those of you wondering.

The tea party events have no GM. Because it's the truth.

Bern confirms it in red.

>>5950512

But he let his son get killed anyway in the EP7 Tea party, and afraid? he had fun killing FATass so....

>>5950517
OH DESIRE!

Beato 2.0 - Raped.
Rosa - Raped.
Jessica - Raped

YAMI WO KIRISAKU I'M A SICK FUCK..

>>5950509
Agreed man.

>>5950517
Kinzo rape was confirmed in episode 4, bro. And the "Kinzo conceived with Beatrice, then conceived with Beatrice's child with him" isn't exactly a new thing.

I forgive Kinzo. Beatrice meant everything to him and he truly regretted his sin for the rest of his life.

>>5950506
Beatrice always was a scapegoat

>>5950522
By the way...who was GM in EP7?

Bern said it wasn't her.

>>5950522
Pic please. So what happens in the tea party is the undeniable truth? Kyrie and Rudolf are the culprits?

>>5950523
Let us be honest here. We ALL would have a WONDERFUL time shooting George to death.

Course, it'd be all for not because SHOTGUN ACTION JESUS would kill us and raise our children as her own.

>>5950532
Bern was. The tea party is different.

The main game was Bern manipulating Will into killing Claire/Beatrice so she could expose the brutal truth in the tea party.

>>5950529
Yeah, but dude HE FUCKED HIS OWN DAUGHTER AND MADE HER GIVE BIRTH TO SOME SORT OF DEFORMED MAID BUTLER THING.

And the ways are going it's entirely possible he went for the bloody hat trick.

Does anyone have the picture with a summary of EP7?

>>5950534
Kyrie kills for the money and she doesn't know bout the bomb until the epitaph was solved and everyone was told about it.
The culprit doesn't kill for money and revenge.

i have a feeling we won't see Will, Leon and Claire anymore in the next episode.

>>5950534
Still finishing off the very last parts of the game. I'll grab a cap when I can.

>>5950534
No, Kyrie and Rudolf just went crazy AFTER the point of no return that was Natsuhi's death.
They are killers but someone still started everything.

It's kinda like kidnapping 2 persons and giving them only 1 knife, telling them they would live if one killed the other.
The kidnapper doesn't kill anyone, but he is still responsible for the deaths, same thing here.

Maybe the reason Kinzo said the Ushiromiya family would die with him in episode 4 is because every member is somehow a product of incest... Oh god, what have I done.

So... Can anyone explain to me how George fell in love with a non-existant character? Haven't played EP6 yet.

>>5950547
No. Beatrice doesn't kill for money or revenge. Beatrice was one of Kyrie's first victims.

I have a doubt here.
Was Shannon's and George's relationship really confirmed? I mean, did Battler see that they were in love or something like that? Same for Jessica's and Kanon's. Because it could all be a delusion.
Sorry if slowpoke.jpg, but I can't verify it in the game right now.

>>5950556
Battler said so in ep3 and Ryu confirmed in his interviews that 'the love between Shannon and George is real'

>>5950544
I still forgive him. It reminds me of Battler in episode 6 trying to love romantically the new Beato who views him as a father. He's kinda like Reiji except it's his biological daughter not adopted.

>>5950538
>Let us be honest here. We ALL would have a WONDERFUL time shooting George to death.

Not when George is practically crying, not when he didn't die immidiately and had to suffer being shot two more times just to die.

Come on you have to admit that was pitiful

>>5950538
I'd rather shoot Jessica.

>>5950551
Natsuhi's death that was, of course, Natsuhi's fault.

She shot first like a moron. Eva and Hideyoshi then proceeded to act in self defense, because they're the only sane people on the isaldn.

Kinzo is one sick motherfucker.

I think Battler,Maria and Eva should really just escape and detonate the bomb killing all those fuckers.

What's with the George hate lately? I mean, after admitting his sin in EP6, he showed that he was really a bro.

>>5950564
>>5950563
I kid, of course. To be honest I damn near cry whenever the two o them die, and in an odd sense, the reason I want either George or Jessica to be the culprit is because the alternative is that two good, innocent, young people died because of their love for a crazy psychopath. At least if they were the culprit, they'd rise above it being so damn tragic.

>>5950566
Hard to escape when they are dead.
Well Battler could be alive

>>5950502
Beato 3, daughter of Beato 2.

Actually, it goes like this:

Nazi Beato, Beatrice Castillioni, met young Kinzo around 1944.
She then died when giving birth to their daughter.

Problem: Kinzo went batshit insane and thought it was her reincarnation. This beato became the Kuwadorian beato.

Yasu is the daughter of that beato, and was supposed to be raised by Natsuhi. As episode 5 explains it, the cliff accident occurs. Genji finds out about it and even though he gave up, he still called Nanjo out. The baby miraculously survived.

However, Genji did NOT tell Kinzo that the baby survived. He was torn by the possibility that this child may turn into a plaything, like how Beato II was. Although Kinzo may had a fatherly love, his madness may just twist it completely again. Therefore, that baby became an "unrelated" child.

Few years afterwards, Genji made sure that Yasu is accepted in the Fukuin house and that got a work at the main hourse. He then attempts to tell Kinzo that Yasu has "Beatrice's blood", hoping it may relief him.


By the way, Claire calls herself Beatrice, but that's because Yasu wanted to become the "ruler of the night", aka the Beatrice of the servants. Due to Yasu being entertained by Kumasawa, it explains why "elder beatrice", the ruler of the night (not the golden witch of the legend) is affected by spider webs etc, as Yasu mixed up a LOT of stuff, due to Kumasawa silly stories.

Yasu then became Beatrice, after "meeting a witch she thought to be beatrice" (shown with Gaap sprite). Yasu left Shannon alone, and overwrote her memories and turned the room into a single bed room. They reunited later though.

>>5950419
Confirming this for the people doubting it.

>>5950566
Add Gohda and it would be the perfect ending.
>>5950571
Because he's FAT

>>5950571
It started with a sudden explosion of threads calling him fat. Then it turned into hate. It doesn't help now with episode 7 the confirmed best mom is Eva and George rejected her.

>>5950585
>best mom is Eva and George rejected her.
She wasn't a good mom to George at all, you can't push all your frustrations onto your son and expect a wonderful relationship.

>>5950579
Well if it really is true, can you at least explain why the epitaph is existing in a world with Lion? In the early parts of the game he doesn't even know what the epitaph is, it doesn't exist in his world. So what's the reason for this discrepancy? If you aren't trolling then maybe Bern is and the epitaph existing is a hint for that.

>>5950585
George is a good dude, and in episode 6 it was a metaphor for him wanting to marrying Shannon. I guess.
Regardless, anyone who thinks George had a rough childhood should get their fucking head examined.

Eva is literally the best mom ever.

>>5950589
She is by far the best mother in Umineko. She truly loved George and wanted him to have the happiness she didn't have. Is it really so wrong to want your children to achieve your dreams?

>>5950590
Kinzo unveiled the epitaph that day on the 1986 conference, after the main game ended, thinking Leon could solve it easily.

And the exact same thing happened. Kyrie massacred everyone, starting with Leon.

>>5950590
Going with the alt. universe theory here, maybe Will tries to solve the epitaph so he can hand the answer to the other Rokkenjima and save everyone? I don't know, it's not too farfetched. Erika solved it thanks to the power of Bern and harnessing the logic of previous games.

>>5950589
Oh boo fucking hoo, she wanted him to be successful.

Contrast to Rosa MAN I SHO LOVE CHILD ABUSE, Natsuhi NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN I CHUCK BABIES OFF OF CLIFFS BUT IF YOU CALL NOW I CAN LOCK YOU IN A CLOSET, and Kyrie ANGE MORE LIKE USELESS PIECE OF SHIT Ushiromiya.

>>5950593
Eva pushed him to the limits. He's like Jessica except, he accepted all of it. Because he LOVES her MOM.

>>5950600
Oh. ...fucking Kyrie.

>>5950598

It is when it constricts their freedom and life.

>>5950598
>so wrong to want your children to achieve your dreams?
yes, it is. You should let your children choose the path they want to, not force them to be ultra perfect in your place because you are overly frustrated.

>>5950598
Eva's intentions are good, but her methods were not.
UNfortunately for Eva, she was controlling George's life way too much (as seen with the gag in Episode 6 etc). Even George knew that she had the best intention, but it is plaguing his life, since he can't exactly do what he really wants to.

And I doubt anyone with enough "personality" would love to have a wife forced on them, while they already have a love interest.
Think about Kinzo and his "official" wife.

>>5950578
>Yasu left Shannon alone, and overwrote her memories and turned the room into a single bed room. They reunited later though.
wait, what? You didn't mention Shannon before, is this supposed to be the real Shannon he takes as a model or the Yasu-angel delusion? Overwrote her memories how?

>>5950606
Eva was just concerned about George. She knew that maids like Shannon would often times try to use him, and that the Ushiromiya family was a den of vipers.

And what happened in the end? Shannon did indeed use him, but not by taking his money, but rather his BLOOD, and the assholes of the Ushiromiya family acted like complete asshats.

>>5950598
Your son/daughter can't be you. They will always have different perspective in their lives. If you force them to achieve something they do not want, they'll surely rebel.

At least Eva isn't a murderer. And heck, she doesn't tell Ange the truth because she doesn't want her to know that her mother saw her as a piece of shit.

Claire is Minty Beatrice, right? Who the hell is she as a character?

captcha:colons, squains

>>5950611
When did Shannon entered this discussion? It was about Eva forcing his frustrations in George amirite?

>>5950611
>implying Eva isn't part of the asshole group.

>>5950614
Eva was a good mother to George too. People are exaggerating, all she was was a bit overprotective. George still became independent in spit of it.

I'd take her over the other alleged parents anyday.

>>5950614

That was just Bern fucking around with Ange. Kyrie doesn't see Ange as a piece of shit!

>>5950620
>Bern, in red: "This is all complete truth."

>>5950616
Eva's always been seen as a bitch because she doesn't approve of Shannon. Like nearly everything she think, she was spot on.
>>5950617
Yeah, she's not. Accusing Natsuhi of doing something that NATSUHI DID INDEED do is not called being as asshole, it's called seeking the truth.

>>5950621
I WANTED TO BELIEVE, BERN!!! ;_;

>>5950620
>denial
tea party is not Bern's game, it's confirmed for pure truth

>>5950614
>Eva
>not a murderer

She killed for a reason.

>>5950622

Her intentions in that scene was no where near pure.

>>5950610
Sorry dude.

More details:
Yasu was working at the main house, but unlike other servants, s/he was way too young (described as a elementary school kid), and yasu's inability to carry out mundane stuff (not enough strength etc) didn't rub the other servants well.

Shannon was Yasu's only ally. Though, as my personal take, it seems a bit obvious that Shannon was Yasu's delusion (though I can't confirm anon's claim that the servants mocked Yasu for talking to someone who doesn't exist... shitty atlas).

So Shannon and Yasu share the same room. But after tasting the fun that you get with magic, when she confronted "beatrice (gaap), she decides to become a witch, and left Shannon alone. She made sure Shannon doesn't remember about them, and "magically" turned their room into a single bed room.

>>5950626
Eva killed twice. Once because Natsuhi SHOT AT HER, and even then she merely tried to disable her, and the second time because Kyrie is an unfathomably evil bitch.

And we have the end of episode 3 as well, but that too was in self defense.

The strong implication from the tea party is the Kyrie solves or is involved with solving the epitaph every time and subsequently massacres everyone every time. In other words, Kyrie culprit.

ALSO, GOING INTO SEIZURES AT WILL VS BERN

WILL CONFIRMED FOR MOST AMAZING PERSON, WILL X LEON CONFIRMED FOR MOST AMAZING SHIP

>>5950627
Her intentions are to expose the truth. She doesn't want to say kidnpa Krauss and kill everyone, she just wants him to admit that Kinzo is dead.

Which he is.

Selfish? Perhaps, but Hideyoshi's business needs money because of corrupt dealings much like Krauss lying to the entire family.

With Shannon it's her not trusting the maid.

Which is the wisest fucking decision in the series.

Funny how Rudolf gets no hate. Kyrie wasn't the only one in a killing spree.

>>5950629
I see, thank you. I'm still at Kinzo's flashback, I'll try to figure out the imaginary thing when I get there.

>>5950642
We all know who wears the pants in that relationship.

>>5950642
But we knew Rudolph was a jerk.

>>5950646

So what?

>>5950636
No, it just means that she kill people when she solve the epitaph.
But she never solves it alone, it only happen when all the parents put their head together.
She couldn't solve it alone anyways, she doesn't know Kinzo's past.

She is a murderer but not the mastermind

>>5950648

Not that muck of a jerk. You'd think he'd care more about his son not to be fine killing him when you spend 6 years trying to get him back

What a happy family.

Split personalities and homolust, split personalities and homolust everywhere. I love this episode

Why coudn't it be just Rosa doing all the killings intead? Goddammit that would have been awesome. She had more reasons to do it anyway

>>5950653
How nice.

>>5950652
It was obvious he did it to push Battler's weight around in the succession conference. I had no delusions he did it out of love.
There's also the Rosa mention of how he was a sly bastard when they were children.

Episode 8 - Eva and Hideyoshi kill everyone except the cousins, keep Krauss and Natsuhi as pets, and Gohda as a chef.

GOOD END

DID confirmed.
A Kyrie who kill just for a greedy impulse without planning anything.

So this is the extent of Umineko plot, very disappointing.

>>5950659

Whats the point in doing that if you're going to kill him anyway?

>>5950664
He didn't think he was going to kill him.
Kyrie and Rudolf didn't come on the island thinking TIME TO KILL OUR FAMILY

>>5950662
Wait until you read it before you say that. I loathed Shkanontrice with every fiber of my being and didn't care about Kyrie, but this episode is incredible.

>If you keep using disrespectful words, I'd advise you to take up the habit of watching out for your buttocks, Will.
ahahahohwow.jpg

>>5950667
Kyrie and Rudolph, man oh man, shit tier culprits they are.

Now Jessica is going to be the final boss. Because of Kinzo's penis. Good going guys, you trigger happy morons.

>>5950670

>>5950667

Like I said, what was the point in bringing him back if your feelings and desire (i.e succesion) for him were so weak you'd kill him anyway by an impulse desition?

>>5950670
i want Leon to pinch my buttocks

By the way, I think we need a new thread.

>>5950683
Leon is a bro.

Too bad his AU counterpart is nucking futs.

>>5950675
because epitaph solved = gold getto = succession meaningless.
Kyrie is the one who kills Battler as well, so we can't know how carefree Rudolph was with the whole thing
You seem to be misunderstanding, he cared for the succession because that way he'd have got the money of his easily manipulated son.
I mean, you saw his reaction when Battler solves the epitaph in episode 5?

>>5950661
Actually I think It will go like this.

Battler,Maria,Eva,Hideyoshi,Gohda - Survive
Rest- Die

Eva and Hideyoshi adopts Battler,Maria and Ange.Ange becomes Evas pupil (she finally realized she always wanted a daughter).Maria and Ange get along, and they are not lonely.

>>5950702
New thread.

We're on autosage.

I think Yasuleonshkannontrice is genderless (has both penis and vagina)

>>5950668
One question:
Does Jessica know about DID meido/Yasu?

>>5950589
lol she foresee the craziness within Yasu and try to get George away from him/her. She also push George so that he can achieve his true potential.

George is just an ungrateful bastard, who is probably gay and fat.

wasn't it confirmed in GOLD that the game will not have a happy ending?