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Has anyone had dreams as weird as Madotsuki's?

>>5812125
How the fuck was anyone supposed to figure that part out on their own?

>>5812134
Had one where I was walking in streets filled with cathedrals in the beginning of winter..
>>5812140
Had to use a walk through guide :P

I lucid dream alot.

And when I'm robotripping I always trip yume-nikki.

>>5812140
A lot of guesswork?

I get depressed when I listen to the sound files. 24 EFFECTS cheers me up most of the time though.

>>5812134
The most bizarre was probably the one where I was a glowworm (the gnat, not the beetle) and went web-slinging from tree to tree with my nestmates.

>>5812205
Yeah, that dark city track thing is really sad, somehow.

24EFFECTS' take on Poniko's house is great.

>>5812125
/jp/ upgrade.

>>5812245
C'mon man. Theirs rarely any Yume Nikki threads and I'm enjoying this.

>>5812244
No kidding. Endless station is my favorite though. Their seriously needs to be more doujin Yume Nikki

SHIT THREAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL SHIT

>>5812245

Should have been as cheerful as this.

>>5812287
I'd sit next to her.

>>5812287
That made me sad when I realized what it was about.
>>5812262
Yeah, that's track's on par with 蟲と東方と毒殺(ハニー)ミルク

Now I feel like listening to the soundtrack. Does anyone think Depth Bomb was a good choice for the album cover?

Thanks OP, you reminded me that I need to play this game :)

Isn't it cute?

On a side note, which of the fan-sequels are worth playing?

>>5812426
What? Their more than 2kki?

>>5812465
.Flow
Lucid Dream
and many others

>>5812488
Anyone got dl for these?

Sequels can be found here.
http://www.theneitherworld.com/yumenikki/links.htm

>>5812598
Nevermind. It's just .Flow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTL9QqdQq4c

Never knew 24EFFECTS was the only doujin music of Yume Nikki

I played 2kki English the other day. The atmosphere is more or less the same but the mapping and flow design is mediocre.

In Yume Nikki you can just walk forward and reach every Worlds there is. In 2kki it's branched and your travel more often stopped at big world with dead end/no return, or the equivalent of Toriningen. Waste of time.

It's worth checking but not worth to be claimed as unofficial sequel.

http://uboachan.net/media/res/17.xhtml#272
http://tkool.jp/rtp/2000rtp.exe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7dte9PKaB0

>>5812971

Isn't it unfinished?

What do you do when you see Uboa in your hallway?

>>5812971
What's the latest version?

>>5812993

Take it easy. It's cool, he's not the real Uboa, the lights are still on.

It was good until the ending... why did they do that?

>>5812990
Yes.

>>5813001
0.091h. Get the four parts at http://loda.jp/yume2kki_4/ , extract them with Applocale, find a RPG_RT.exe, run it with Applocale, and enjoy I guess.

>>5812971
Well, to be fair, there are a lot of dead ends in Yume Nikki too (Uboa's world, FACE, Mars and so on). It's just that as Yume 2kki is a lot bigger (and unfinished at the moment), you seem to find them more often.
I don't understand the parts where you said that more branched paths = bad, too, but I guess that's opinion (and I see how you can hate it, as my slight OCD forces me to check every possibility before moving on).

by the way walls of text
And check out the most recent versions, if I recall correctly that one in English is pretty old and the English in it is pretty Google Translator-like.

Does /jp/ approve?

>>5813065
Only if she comes as a set with Uboa.

Whats everybody's favorite world to explore?

>>5813065
Only if I have the pleasure of coming inside.

>>5812574
.flow: Just screw around http://loda.jp/yume2kki/ and you'll eventually find it. The latest version is 0.008, if I'm not mistaken.
LcdDem: http://loda.jp/tu_ku_ru/
Yume2kki's link was already posted, although you can find it at the same uploader too.

And yeah, I greatly recommend them, at least for the "I like to explore and find things" feeling. I don't know if these fangames are good or not, but I enjoyed Yume Nikki and I'm enjoying them even more than it, actually... possibly because by the time I started playing YN, 4chan had already discovered everything. I curse my laziness sometimes.

>>5812832
I know this album too, but I don't remember where I got it. Try Googling for Mediafire+it, I guess.

>>5813126
I heard there are similar arthsy and small-scale exploration games in western vidya, such as The Path, The Graveyard, PS3's Flower. Anyone tried those?

I bet the creator was an abused child.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvBJqWEJVUU

Going to the bathroom and HOLY SHIT THEIRS UBOA.

You gonna get raped?

>>5812426
2kki, .flow
Don't bother with the others .

>>5813065

>>5815699
If it isn't from the original creator, than I'm not interested.

>>5813150

They all cost money and are made by faggots, though.

The Graveyard is a straight line walking simulator with a folk song at the end and then if you paid for it you might die.

The Path is extremely shitty but is probably the most like Yume Nikki of the games you mentioned. It costs far more than it should, however, and as I said the developers are pretentious cunts who WANT you to think their game is like Yume Nikki. Thing is, Yume Nikki wasn't really a great game, but at least it was sincere. The western indie game scene doesn't know the meaning of the word "sincere".

As for Flower, that one might be fun, but it's really nothing like Yume Nikki. Also you need a PS3 for it. So, etc.

>>5813113
The world with Monoko and Monoe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTL9QqdQq4c

The walls, THE WALLS

>>5815802
The .Flow girl is the cutest out of all the rest

I heard the probability of meeting with this is very unlikely. Does it even exist?

>>5815840

Yeah. It shoots across the screen pretty fast, though.

Yume Nikki should become a novel. Writers, write things.

LSD anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70gtHWz70Z0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oAnKgYssxY

Anybody else find .flow more creepy than Yume Nikki

>>5815945
It's like a 3d version of yume nikki

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7246060

>>5815730
Enjoy not playing anything, then.
Even so, try giving yume2kki and .flow at least a chance before saying that. I know Kikiyama is an amazing guy who came up with Yume Nikki out of nowhere and inspired people to try making their own Yume Nikki-like games, but that doesn't mean all games that were not made by him suck. That's like saying you can't play any danmaku (or more specifically Touhou) games that were not made by ZUN, and thus missing how good (or at least interesting) CtC is.

>>5815837
I beg to differ. Urotsuki's hairstyle is a miracle of the universe.

2kki has some really memorable NPCs.

I have now been enlightened.

Goddamn, enemies are harder to avoid in .Flow. Are their items to collect or is it just exploring?

>>5817952
You collect in .Flow too

Holy shit. Those of you wondering whats in the bottom of the sea, here's your answer.

So did they google translate the "about game" text?

bump

>>5817335
Hahaha, weed plants. Pretty much describes the game.

It looks into your soul. But seriously, what the fuck is this supposed to be anyways?

>>5820798
Those are butterfly wings.

>>5820798
Looks like a vagoo

>>5820798
I always saw a face

Truth is Madotsuki was raped. Before Face, you pass through a monster very similar to a penis which rubs a pole constantly, and I think it does it faster when you wear cat ears. (forced cosplay sex?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw46Pb32_io

So depressing at the end

>>5820852
No, it's when you hold the knife. The pregnant decapitated monsrers are interesting, though.

>>5820879
And no, I'm not talking about the game's ending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDmDpYBhfs

Yume Nikki x Touhou?

>>5820883
So are those eyes in the forest world. If you look closer they look like evil vaginas or something.

>>5820926
Was he/she scared of vagina?

>>5820933
Who knows. It's mostly what the player wants the story to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjWCCpcM0jg&feature=related

Master spark around 2:20

>>5820883
>The pregnant decapitated monsrers
The what?

And what's with all this rape rape rape stuff fans talk about? The only thing I ever got from the game was a sense of loneliness. Even if those things are utereses, they probably relate to her being barren or something.

>>5821006
They're in the world with eyes on the floor where you get Medamaude, IIRC

>>5821013
I still can't imagine what you mean. I probably didn't perceive them that way.

>>5821006
This thing minus head.

>>5821022
Ah. I don't see them as anything but mouth monsters; yet another thing to stare at and talk shit about Madotsuki.

Did they ever have ones like in the picture? I could see it as jealousy of pregnancy if so.

>>5821050
I see it as her pregnant and the baby dying, traumatizing her into having her dreams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0reXwJRDs&feature=related

.....OH.......

.......MY........

>>5821527
no

..........GGGOOOODDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>5821533
Damnit. You broke my chain >:(

Shit just got pixelized.

Selfcest, anyone?

??????????????

>>5821660
You can knock on the door

A fighting Yume Nikki would be nice to have.

Also, can somebody translate what her leg says? (Yes, I'm doing a pixiv run right now.)

>>5821660
Use twintail so you can enter.

Cool thing to do on Yume2kki:
1. Get 800 yen or whatever the currency was there by killing things or finding them around. Doesn't matter, just get eight coins.
2. Go to the little town with the nice music (shortest way there is marijuana goddess world -> left until you see characters walking around then up until you see an entrance, go inside -> down one screen and right one screen -> go past the dam -> continue walking along the only way until you get there)
3. Go into the entrance at the leftmost part of the map
4. Use the lantern if you want to see what's around, but it doesn't really matter - just go left until you change maps
5. Inside this bar, sit on one of those things until the ghost gives you a drink (this is where the money comes in) and drink it (with Z, if I'm not mistaken).
6. Get down and sit there again, taking another drink.
7. Repeat until you spend all those 800 yen.

>>5821697

Are you serious ?

>>5821697
ユメニック
yume nikki

>>5821709
Me no speak japanese. I honestly have no fucking clue with the language

>>5821714
Great, now I feel like a moron. Guess I can't call myself a true fan.

>>5821714
You just wrote yume nikku, man.

>>5821726
yeah, just saw that now, and was wondering if someone was seriously going to point it out.

>>5821707
The coins spent for hearts like Yume Nikki?

The most depressing game ever made.

>>5821850
You can't win...;_;

>>5820852
Nope, it's the knife

>(Took from Uboachan).

>>5822207
>Girly Sabistuki
Not sure if want

>>5821691
Over powered much?

Mr.Mars ;_;

>>5821706
It didn't work

Fuck yeah, chainsaw. 2kki isn't half bad actually.

Who will win, /jp/?

>>5824757
Neither. They have a delightful tea part together.

>>5824821
How about a coffee breaak?

>>5824757
Chainsaw vs. wimpy short-range knife, I wonder who would win? It's a mystery.

>>5825775
I love water paint when it comes to Yume Nikki artwork. The coloring really says "dream world" to me with water colors.

>>5824934
Madotsuki just got an upgrade

Hey, haven't played Yume Nikki type games for some time and I'm on a fairly new computer. Could anyone link me to the stuff I need to download to make these games run properly? I remember having to install some sort of RPGMaker resources or something.

>>5827446
http://uboachan.net/media/src/Yume_Nikki.rar
If it still fails to run, http://www.famitsu.com/freegame/rtp/2000_rtp.html

>>5827446
Install RPG 2003(?)
Some won't play without applocale, so download that too.
Or just download it from here:

And you won't have to deal with any other download

Do you have what it takes?

>>5827469
Installed the 2000_rtp stuff, I'm currently trying to play Flow. Do you know where to get a .exe that works with it? Tried Yume Nikki's exe, but that didn't work.

>>5827759
Download applocale and run the games with it.

>>5827785
Already have my system locale as Japanese. Went and found the .exe on Uboachan.

>>5827759
Are you trying the sword with the purple background?

>>5827801
That's what I downloaded. The exe for Yume Nikki seems special made for it despite having the same name.

Try to download it from here.
http://www.theneitherworld.com/yumenikki/links.htm

>>5827759
Google for RPG_RT2000_151.zip, what you need is in the first result.

>>5827832
AppLocale, maybe?

Also, some people think that the whole story of the original is a dream, due to the backgrounds of the balcony, the TV, the secret entrance you get by going to sleep again, and those things at the end. I don't know about the whole "rape" idea, but this theory makes the ending a whole lot less depressing. I do think it's not meant to mean anything more than how an individual player perceives it (much like dreams).

>>5812380
Anyone got sauce on this?

>>5827871
Already fixed my problem by getting the exe on Uboachan. And system locale is already Japanese. Already playing Flow now.

>>5827950
Your thoughts on it?

Is this another one? If so, what's it called?

>>5827907
I second that

>>5828485
Seems pretty deep despite only being the 0.008 of the game. Apparently you can get all the effects out of the debug room and it took me quite a bit of random wondering to find where you get one actually in game(>>5828485 specifically).
So I get the feeling there's a lot of places to explore. I assume it's the bathysphere effect, but I couldn't actually get it there since I got everything in the debug room. Also neat subversion on how the computer and bed's purposes are switched. I wonder what that implies though. Is the .Flow world a digital one? Also her apartment building is pretty crappy.

>>5828485
Seems pretty deep despite only being the 0.008 of the game. Apparently you can get all the effects out of the debug room and it took me quite a bit of random wondering to find where you get one actually in game(>>5818042 specifically).
So I get the feeling there's a lot of places to explore. I assume it's the bathysphere effect, but I couldn't actually get it there since I got everything in the debug room. Also neat subversion on how the computer and bed's purposes are switched. I wonder what that implies though. Is the .Flow world a digital one? Also her apartment building is pretty crappy.

>>5828805
I always though it was a male.

>>5828599
Lucid Dream

I always thought this place was really cool. It reminds me of the strolls I take during night time. The streets are quite and the low flickering sounds of the lights emitting from certain buildings make me lose myself into my own dream world.

I don't like the rape theory, seems too pedestrian; you can find sexual imagery in anything if you reach for it. (I will admit the pole rubber is pretty straightforward though...)

What about all the traffic imagery? The roadkill dude? Monoko's response to the stoplight? The motor noise ambience on the road with the eyes? I think some sort of horrific traffic accident was involved.

That's just one part of the game though, it could be a lot of small things that turned her into a wreck.

>>5829108
Most people think that Monoko was hit by a truck.The real mystery is why Monoe smiles.

I really do not understand the love for this game. It's a boring, slow, walk through generically-dark scenery with no reason to continue playing for more than two minutes.

>>5829134
True enough. The trip however is no doubt, psychological.
Some will pick it up, others wont. What you get out of it depends on how much you really want to spend looking into it.

>>5829134

That's actually understandable, when I first played Yume Niki I absolutely HATED the game and didn't understand what's all the fuss about. Boring, like you said, with no goal. I enjoyed it much more after I got me a walkthrough, and slowly began to understand that this game has other things than gameplay to offer. Imagination and Interpretation are what matters when playing Yume Nikki. So yeah, not everyone likes to imagine what the game displays, they just want to play a game. Maybe Yume 2kki is better at that, at least I think so.

bump

>>5829108

Yeah the traffic imagery is very strong.

I don't think you can pin down any one thing as a unifying element that explains the rest of it in a coherent way, nor is it intended to be seen in that kind of way either. It's a dream, random lumps of metal imagery all loosely connected with no rhyme or reason.

About all you can say for sure about Madotsuki is that she had a traumatic experience with travel, the scenes depicting travel such as the road kill forest\train on mars\spaceship crash\train ride to the forest are all some of the strongest and most blunt imagery.

Aside from that we know she likes video games.

Beyond that everything is speculation. While some stuff is fairly easy to agree upon such as some kind of social anxiety (evidenced by the prominent faces on absolutely everything and how much stuff "watches" you), some stuff is somewhat subjective (Madotsuki is only a murderous psychopath if you make her one) and other scenes\items are more difficult to interpret at all.

For example, the things you get the hair items off of look like turds with big red lips. I reckon that represents a self image problem she has, that no matter what she does to change how she looks she feels like she's always going to be an ugly shit.

That's just me though.

>>5831268
>That last part.
Poniko is probably what Madotsuki's vision of a perfect person is, and Uboa is what she believes herself to be. That one world with all the limbs and eyes probably represents her struggle into finding her own beauty. Idk, it was that theory I had in mind when I played this game.

>>5832353
>Poniko is probably what Madotsuki's vision of a perfect person is
Poniko is probably just a girl that Madotsuki idolized, since the blonde hair becomes an equip.
I'd even say it's possible that they were even friends at some point, because she knows what the inside of her room looks like.
Remember that Poniko lives in a very isolated location, and if that's any reflection of Poniko's personality, I'd think that she would get along well with Madotsuki.
It's also possible that Madotsuki just admired her from a distance because she seemed like herself-- alone, a foreigner.
This seems more suitable because Poniko doesn't respond to Madotsuki in any way.

>Uboa is what she believes herself to be
I disagree. The two possibilities that would explain Poniko's horrible shift in form is that Poniko was a friend that betrayed her, or she's merely reflection of Madotsuki's fears of betrayal.
If it's true that Poniko and Madotsuki were never friends and she just admired her from a distance, I'd say this would be the main reason that kept her from trying to make friends to begin with-- that fear of betrayal.
I personally believe that she was just someone she idolized. If she had been a friend that betrayed her, I don't think that the display of her "true form" would have been something so rare-- it would have been a more prominent event or theme.

Or, maybe you're closer. I'm probably going a little bit too far.

>>5832353
>That one world with all the limbs and eyes probably represents her struggle into finding her own beauty. Idk, it was that theory I had in mind when I played this game.
I'm not so sure about that area, but I do think that Madotsuki's body image was a large theme in the game.
Originally, the way to get the "fat" equip was to find the mirror in the red maze.

>>5832633
>but I do think that Madotsuki's body image was a large theme in the game.
I also think the Toriningen were too. They could represent the people who have harmed Madotsuki. Perhaps they are to blame why she entraps herself in her room, since you are teleported to a secluded area. She could also be afraid of people that haven't brought harm to her. Maybe the reason why she is capable of killing, er, the "citizens of her dream world" is because she's paranoid.

>>5833069
>She could also be afraid of people that haven't brought harm to her.
Well, I do think that they're representative of girls that were harmful to her in one way or another, and -meant- to be. If you're near them, they go out of their way to hurt you.
I think it's especially obvious in the picnic scene in the white desert. It's a typical clique of girls.

I think the monsters with hair were girls that madotsuki thought were pretty but they were actually mean and bitchy.

Mado is a hikki. She was bullied and gave up on going to school as hikkis tend to do. She's freaked out and paranoid like that guy in NHK.

It's probably more of a mental issue with herself than with anything that happened to her. Excluding the things that made her a hikki.

>>5833320
We don't know how long she's been up there.

>>5829113
Who is monoe again?

>>5834254
The smiling girl that disappears.

>>5829113
I still don't think that the use of the traffic light is any indication that she was in a car accident or got hit by a car.
You also use the traffic light on the hat and scarf girl.

>>5821691
There is a really short one in which you can play and mado, uboa or the piano dude. Don't remember the name but it was quite fun actually.

>>5834275
Not ringing any bells, which world was she from?

>>5834304
The white world. Same area where the Monoko event happens.

>>5834310
Damn, I might have to play it again, there's a lot about the game I don't remember quite well, thanks though.

>>5834294
Asking for sauce on that.

>>5834336
It's a really brief event and she doesn't stand out a lot. If it's been a while since you've played it, I'd understand why you would forget her.
She creeps me out, though. More than Monoko.

>>5834294
It wouldn't be mugen, would it?

>>5829108
The action for the traffic light is that it turns to "STOP".
I think that's more significant than its literal form.

Perhaps she is attempting to prevent something from happening. She's trying to find the answer within her, and the disturbing images surrounding her world could mean the result of what she fears will happen. The items she collects are items that are capable of helping her. The eggs combined with her suicide could signify rebirth.

omg favourite game acidentaly found on most nerdy board on 4chan. Even /x/ would be better...

>>5834963
Then go away.

>>5834826
>The items she collects are items that are capable of helping her.
I don't see how a good majority of the items can help her, especially when most of them don't have any actual use.
The fat equip in particular. If anything, that's actually detrimental to her self image.
I think they all reveal something about her, but none of them are necessarily helpful, especially when the end result is suicide.

>>5834826
Sorry, I missed your point about rebirth. That's actually an interesting idea.

>>5835154
Guess your right. Perhaps the items signify something greater.
>>5835167
An egg could be seen as birth, and birth is life. That's all I really have to follow my statement for now.

I'm just throwing ideas around after all, and didn't give Yume Nikki much thought until now.

Who would you choose /jp/?

>>5836560
>right
Better handjobs.

>>5836560
I just found out I have a multiple hand fetish.

Thanks /jp/!

Wouldn't you know, another YN thread has been posted. Probably for the best since this one was to getting really long.
>>5836374

I prefer a more optimistic interpretation of the end of the game -- Madotsuki worked up the courage to face the waking world again, and her "suicide" was her leaving the dream world behind and waking up for real.