/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>5698720
Tsukihime.
Done

Name a book better than Twilight

Clannad.
It's also better than life.

Clannad

Clannad

Reika Bitch Training

I don't know about everyone else, but I even enjoyed Wanko more than FSN.

Saya no Uta

>>5698720
>Name a VN better than F/SN.

Why name VNs? Even Bleach is better

>>5698745
actually it's true
Bleach has good porn while FSN's porn always makes me think of insects chasing after honey

>>5698745
>>5698744
>>5698740
>>5698736
>>5698734
>>5698733
>>5698731
>>5698728
Incorrect.

>>5698762
XD

>>5698760
>Bleach
>good porn

All women in Bleach have gigantic unrealistic breasts and disgusting faces, how can you fap to those?

>>5698760
F/SN has produced some of the best doujins, porn or not.

>>5698768
Rukia and the lolis?

>>5698720
Yuka can instakill Servants. Duscuss

>People thinking they are edgy for hating "popular" (>VN >Popular) visual novels.

>>5698720

Almost everything from Liar Soft and Nitro+.

>>5698768
Personally I love it.

BEHIND THE SPOILER IMAGE THERE IS NSFW MATERIAL DONT CLICK IT IF THERE'S ANYONE NEAR YOU

This game is basically Fate/Stay Night with a slightly better main character.

My face when people hate on F/SN but like Saya, babby's first vn.

>>5698808

>>5698813
Everyones first VN is Tsukihime.

>>5698819

Saya here

>>5698819
No, everyone's first was Season of Sakura. Or Nocturnal Illusion.

>>5698813
F/SN is also a baby's first VN.

>>5698745

Maybe in 2005.
It's unsalvageable now. Been for years.

>>5698825
So you got into visual novels only an year ago? How cute.

Name a VN better than F/HA

You can't

>>5698816
Kakeru is not a complete failure and even get girls laid without "we need to have sex to rescue everyone" plothax.
He was in need of magical support to make the loli orgasm so Im not sure who is worse.

>>5698832

Yeah

Thread about it on /tg/ when it came out. You mad?

FSN tried some neat thing for an action eroge, and it did have a nice setting.
I'm not the biggest fan either but I do think that calling it shit is going too far.
At the very least it's better than 11eyes to answer >>5698808

>>5698813
I think Saya is disgusting actually but FSN is terrible.

>>5698842
>>5698808
If this ever gets translated there will be SO much fate vs 11eyes bullshit going on...

>>5698847
Archer Route was great.

>>5698790
>hurr durr because we're underground and the word popular only apply to everyone in the world, hence popular can't be aplied only to a certain comunity.

>>5698876
>Admittiong to hating something because of its popularity/fanbase

Steins;Gate
Clannad
Muv-Luv Alternative
YU-NO
KazoKei
Ever17
Symphonic Rain
KGNE
POI
Baldr Force
SubaHibi
Cross+Channel
Rance
Parfait
etc.
Japan agreed don't bother them

Popular or not? does not change my playing experience.

Easy mode: name a VN worse than F/SN

Everything else

>>5698899
Is steins;gate really that good? Damn

>>5698916
........

>>5698916
Saya no Uta

>>5698916
Umineko

>5698916
You meant Lunatic, right?

>>5698916
Umineko

>>5698933
Umineko is a sound novel though....

>>5698720

http://vndb.org/

Here you go.

>>5698916
The majority of JAST's translations

>>5698916
not possible

>>5698943
So ever17, clannaids, and shitmineko are the only 3 better ones according to that.

>>5698888
>implying i ever admited that

i'm not the person whom you replied to in the first place, nor i agree with him.

your argument was simply invalid.

>>5698916

Sekien no Inganock

>>5698952

Click "Random visual novel". Tadaaa~ better than F/SN.

>>5698760
>Bleach has good porn
Hardly. There are some gems, but most of the Bleach artists are horrible.

F/SN is bullshit

People only hate F/sn because of the forced sex scenes.

But in a "masterpiece" Saya they are "necessary plot elements"

>>5698768
I like Oriihime and Rukia.;_;

>>5698899
How could you leave off Phantom?

>>5699005
Wait, shit, I'm blind and I'm not used to seeing it referred to as "POI"

>>5699000
But i agree that Orihime's breasts are too big and she is too tall.

>>5699015

Lolicon detected XD

>>5699026
Orihimes tits are not just big they are BIG!

Here have my favorite breast size.

Orihime is too cute for bleach but i'm glad that she is not some slutty eroge girl drooling over the MC's dick.

>>5699067
B cup?

>>5699102
But she does want the MC's dick.

>Clorox discussion in F/SN troll thread.

Did I click /ɐ/ ?

>>5699133
>ɐ
no, but you should

FSN is my fav ;C

>>5699161
Problem, Suigin?

>>5699196
Syd Mead is mad.

F/SN is basically Naruto of VNs

True Love

Ahhhh nostalgia.

Any VN that doesn't have a female king Arthur and the King of Heroes losing to an inexperienced teenager boy with a plot armor.

Clannad

>>5698720


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>>5698946

No translation.

>Name a VN better than F/SN.
easy one.

You have 10 seconds

To explain why F/SN is bad.

Nightmare mode: No trolling

>>5699620
Powerlevels.

>>5699620
It turned the best hero in British history into the insecure girl.

>>5699620

CG dragons and fish.

The rest is okay, though.

I hated Clannad. Psychologically damaged characters get annoying once the novelty wears off.

>>5699620
Terrible writing.

>>5699620
no loli sex.

>>5699631

To be fair, herowise Arthur doesn't have a lot on Cuchullain.

But they utterly raped his legend too, so the point is moot.

>>5699620
The writing and the hours and hours of cooking

>>5699620
The poor writing, the poorly designed characters based on people nothing like them, the story, the powerlevels, the fact that it's Type-Moon.

>>5699652
>Currybutt

Opinion invalid

100 hours long game
80 hours of cooking

>>5699620
I forgot some;

The cliches, the overdone character archtypes, the unoriginality, the unnecessary and poorly fit-in sex, the lack of anything notable or original about it.

curry has an opinion. A beaver shits on a fallen tree in the forest.

Which do you care about more, /jp/?

>>5699668
Currys opinion.

>>5699668
what kind of tree? This is important.

>>5699668
Beavers don't shit on trees.

>>5699661
>It took him 100 hours to read through it completely!!

I guess really only 12 year olds bash it, unless you are an aspie or something.

>>5699668
Curry's opinion. I hate beavers.

>>5699682
I take many and long breaks when something bores the shit out of me.

>>5699689
I can hardly believe you hate beavers more than you hate curry.

What? Did a tree fall on your mother?

>>5699620

Writing is teeerrible, character development is pretty bad or inexistent, Shirou is insufferable unless you are 12, heroes act like fucking tards most of the time, music choice is terrible repetitive and all the plot and fights resolves around Shurou's haxs.


F/Z is what F/SN should have been. Well, except female King Arthur.

Princess Waltz

>>5698728
this

>>5699709
>inexistent

INCONCEIVABLE!

>>5699695

THIS

>>5699716
>Tsukihime
>Good

>>5699701
They kept ruining swimming for me as a child, what's with fucking up the closest river and everything.

>>5699721

Shirou and... Kotomine? Just a little, and he was better in Zero anyway.

Oh yeah, Sakura, too bad Sakura is an asspain.

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FSN had a lot of unnecessary shit and walking around in circles
the fights were boring as shit
the best thing were the sex scenes because they were so bad they were good
also the whole "lol my power is self destructive if i fuck up a little thing i will disappear forever yet it never happens" thing both shiki and shirou have is annoying

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>>5699777

>>5699777
>also the whole "lol my power is self destructive if i fuck up a little thing i will disappear forever yet it never happens"

suigining~, Shirou destroys himself two times, at least, with Normal end and Vs. Saber.

The rest of your list seems (in)accurate enough for trolling purposes.

>>5699817
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>>5699823
it isn't
i mean he never finishes destroying himself
the whole "lol tracing will destroy me" thing is unnecessary
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>>5699838
>i mean he never finishes destroying himself

But he does. He completely shatters his mind and turns his body to swords when fighting Saber. He's brain dead. He turns into fairy dust right after losing his mind when he does his last projection in Normal End.

That's pretty much the extent of how far he can fuck himself up.

>>5699857
Oh yeah I had completely forgotten about normal end
you win this one
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there are none, op.

>>5698899
I hope you realize that many of those you listed have the same median score as F/SN, and some even have a lower mean.

Does F/SN really deserve the level of hate or adoration it gets? Its not the best VN ever, but its also not the worst. What's wrong with having a mild "it's okay" opinion?
Yes, it raped most myths in it, and yes, Shirou is goddamn annoying and a cheap main character, but at least it did something different from the poorly executed (and occasional well done) school dramas that are everywhere...

>VN better than FSN
well played OP

>>5701576
>What's wrong with having a mild "it's okay" opinion?

Because the ability to say "It was okay, not the best thing ever, but certainly not bad." requires more humanity than anyone here is likely to be capable of mustering.

It's also easier to pretend you're an elite troll by making shitty comments that aren't even factually close to true.

>>5701625
Mainly true.
On an unrelated note, who the fuck are you?