/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I've got a bit more than that so I'd estimate roughly around $9,000 (US).

>>542625
really?

which ones specifically?

$0.

I wouldn't have bought any of this shit either way.

Your prices are ridiculously cheap.

Bump the number of manga volumes up to 1000, that's about $1500 more.

lol, when you think about it, we really have 'stolen' a shit-ton of stuff. We should buy more, in all honesty here.

23 anime series (though I've probably downloaded and watched 3 times as much).
18 anime films.
80 manga.
0 LNs.
3 Touhou games.
8 VNs.

>>542628
is right. If it weren't free, we wouldn't have gotten into this shit in the first place. Along those same veins, we wouldn't have consumed so much Japanese media (via downloading) if it weren't free.

IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!

Enjoy it while it lasts guys, because the new DRM stuff they are planning is basically foolproof, of course piracy will still exist, but it will be stunted forever after that.

We are living in a golden age, so remember to enjoy it and download as much as possible now.

Today I downloaded Tsuyokiss 2.

This game retails on Getchu at 9,240 yen, which converts to $US88 or $AU93.

Would I have bought this game legally if I didn't download it? Fuck no.

Sage for ground covered thousands of times before. Piracy costs are as easy to deduce as the OP thinks.

Actually, so long as /jp/ is conscientious and actually buys the stuff that's good and worth buying (or the studios/doujin groups that need the support) we're actually helping it. There's no way I would have just bought MoF, PoFV, and the new Swing Holic cd from White Canvas if it weren't for downlaodin'.

Today I downloaded Tsuyokiss 2.

This game retails on Getchu at 9,240 yen, which converts to $US88 or $AU93.

Would I have bought this game legally if I didn't download it? Fuck no.

Sage for ground covered thousands of times before. Piracy costs are not as easy to deduce as the OP thinks.

>>542650


I've been hearing this "palladium, palladium" business, but isn't DRM a sham? like the DVD-region thing, it's just a joke and an obstacle to international trade, if piraters have gotten over every single hurdle so far imposed, what's going to stop them from doing the same with the new DRM?

>>542650
>>they

Who are "they", and why do you think DRM is still the way to go forward?

At this point in time a lot of companies have already come to realize that DRM works against their bottom-line by alienating their customers and encroaching upon their rights to certain valid uses for copying and such. Also, DRM will never stop piracy, simply because it only takes one leak, one person per product, to start the whole avalanche of sharing without cost.

tl,dr; there are valid business models that work without DRM.

>>542671

I would buy a shitload more doujin music if circles started selling mp3s online a la Radiohead.

>>542663

It's the same rehashed idea, and it's not going to work due to all the equipment that is not DRM compatible. Even strong DRM doesn't work due to a simple fact, in order for the consumer to use said product with DRM they must have the key for playback. Thus, the consumer has both the key and the encrypted product. And the encrypted product only has to be cracked once.

>>542671

Like not screwing over your customers and not pricing yourself out of the market?

When I'm out of college I'll start buying stuff. In amerikka some kids actually have to pay for their own college. Goddamn lucky japs.

We must have cost them a lot. lol.

So every download = a buy?

LOL.

It is quite funny.

I must have download so much.

But who cares?

It is uploaded.

I download and have fun.

No need to give money.

>>543017

The distributors think so.

I buy whatever I think is good, or at least that's how I justify downloading all this shit.

>>542683
Exactly.

As far as music is concerned, have you ever heard of Magnatune? Basically it has been doing what Radiohead did recently for some time already, only with a large collection of independent artists. The near CD quality full preview is always free and streamable and you pay what you find reasonably for FLAC, WAV, OGG, MP3 or even a CD (with some added distribution costs). This service takes 50% of that sum for the bandwidth and the service, and the artist gets the rest. This seems pretty fair to me considering the huge bandwidth hit the site must take, but if another service could do it for a better price, nothing stops the artist from moving his stuff there.

>>542692
Americans shouldn't feel too guilty about downloading stuff created in other, economically stronger countries. With your plummeting dollar the world must seem pretty expensive compared to home.

>>542999
Not a single ¥ I would wager. If anything, we are hurting our own economies by not buying locally produced films, music and games. A lot of the stuff we download would never even be considered for release abroad unless some interest already existed (brought on by downloading and subsequently consuming it that way). A lot of stuff won't get released abroad regardless, or only in America or another country not your own.

>>542628
>>543017

someone once did a report on this after one of the anime company posted numbers of how many billions of downloads there were from torrent sites considering them "lost sales" but in reality, most people wont buy 98% of the shit they download, the drop in anime sales is a combination of Pirates and just plain shitty content, theres only 1-2 series a year that are really anything of quality and vision.

110 series on my harddrive atm.. some of thats this seasons stuff so its only a few epps.... so like $2k?

Fuck buying jap shit.

Going roughly because I can't be arsed looking around for a definite check:
20 anime series
3 movies
100 mangas
8 Touhou games
2 Jap movies
10 VNs

So using OP's prices: $800 + $45 + $600 + $80 + $30 + $150 =
$1705.

Between all the rare games I have like Tsukihime, a 340 disc case of burned anime at 3/4 capacity, all my manga, digital copies of books, my music, and now Blu-Ray rips, I'm pretty sure my piracy has exceeded the $25,000 mark.

I think we'd reach $100,000 if we all totalled our stuff up together.

ANIME IS MIND CONTROL DEVICE MADE THE JAPANESE TO GET REVENGE FOR WORLD WAR TWO!

>>543063

Lot more than that.

at five thousand bucks a /jp/er with around 270 /jp/sies....

>>543064
Thanks, slowpoke.

Don't forget soundtracks, they're not cheap.

>>543071
lol....

we're not making them lose shit. especially when you consider non of us would buy this shit even if piracy wasn't an option. lern some economics

I'm Chinese so I pirate all their stuff. LOL.

>>543071

There are 10 /jp/ers in total.

253 Anime series on 3 HDDs and about 250 DVDs
26 Animu Films.
189 Manga series.
4 Light Novels.
12 VNs.
20 Japanese games for PS2 and PC.

And this a retarded way to calculate because i wouldn't buy 1/256 of what i have. Also imposible to calculate the price since some manga have like a bilion volumes and i'm in no mood to count.

>>543187
I salute you.

- 64 Anime series.
- 7 Anime films.
- 23 Manga.
- 0 Light Novels.
- 3 Touhou games.
- 1 normal Japanese films.
- 1 VN’s.

my power level isn't that high, and I haven't even seen all the stuff on my HDD.

someone did a cumulative study back in 06, gathering activity on usenet, ebay, irc, torrent, & direct downloads. (of course they couldn't track direct peer to peer OR burnt copies)

The results were higher than the sale of anime in japan that year.

>>543247

thats insane.

>>543266
thinking about how many fans there are outside of Japan, I think it's quite reasonable.

How much money did non-Japanese spend on anime/manga in total?
More or less than the Japanese?

>>543275
As I said to the whiny nip in the other thread right now, you cant expect us to wait 2 fucking years for some shitty dub. Aint going to happen.

I'm a good little boy that buys stuff.

Touhou is my only download, and I will be buying them eventually.

Fucking newfags.

You guys seriously now..

>>544045
your downloads make Russia proud comrade!

>>544045
I come form a former communist state. So it's natural.

Just counting the anime I'd say around $1740.

I've been to Japan, so I feel it is my right as an american to download as much of their stuff as I feel like.

Piracy is cool. Stalin agreed.

As a dirty GNU/hippie, I believe restricting sharing of information is morally wrong. So $0, as I wouldn't pay anyway.

somewhere well over $25, 000 I can't be bothered to go check the external hard drives.

>>543247 link or gtfo

>>543247
I would be interested by a link too.

$0
If I hadn't downloaded it, I wouldn't have bought it.

>>542692
In Amerikka your parents didn't want to pay more taxes so they don't even have universal healthcare.

I don't even know how many cost the jp the past 10 years.
And I only bought 5 manga in my entire life. Even stole some manga at the bookstore. Around 30 maybe.

I cost the Japanese economy nothing at all, since the few things I would've bought without piracy would've been R1 DVDs.

Though the total value of everything I've "stolen" would be fucking astronomical.

>>544177

I wouldn't have bought this anyways but... 10 gb of /h/ /d/ and /e/

Those poor japanese and their struggling economy.

I own more series then I pirated.