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Why are almost all of the women crazy in Umineko?

Kyrie - murderous
Eva/Natsuhi - Delusional
Rosa/Maria - retarded
Shannon - DID
Jessica - Game of pretend
Beatrice - DID

>> No.5231571

Because R7 loves his yandere.

>> No.5231590

Because R07 is a shitty writer who think mental illnesses (natural or LOLPARASYTES) are good plot devices.
You don't have to create complex characters when you can just make them crazy.
It's also a good way to make sure that "it's not really their faults, they were sicks, poor girls", can't anger the moe fags too much after all.

>> No.5231598

They're all like that. It's a venereal disease that runs in the Ushiromiya family.

>> No.5231602

Because mental illnesses are worldly and realistic.

>> No.5231608

It's the Ushiromiya family thing. It just does that to you.

In any case, at least Beatrice isn't crazy, at least in EP 6, anyways.

>> No.5231617

Because fap fap fap.

>> No.5231623

>>5231608
Dissociative Identity Disorder is a mental illness you know.

>> No.5231625

>Rosa retarded

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAID FFAAGG

>> No.5231642

>>5231623
I believe that Beatrice simply lost her memory, not suddenly had a new personality appear out of nowhere, so it doesn't count.

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>>5231608

She never was crazy. She just had a very strange way of trying to tell Battler something important.

Also, Bern's better.

>> No.5231685

>>5231625
>thinks rosa isn't retarded
Really.

>> No.5231693

>>5231685
Bipolarity!=being retarded.
Really, Rosa is just a dysfunctional single mother that wants to find happiness but it's just too selfish.

>> No.5231700

>>5231693
The correct mental illness diagnosis for Rosa would be Borderline personality Disorder and not Bipolarity.

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>>5231590
>mental illnesses (natural or LOLPARASYTES) are good plot devices.

I can't say much for Higurashi, but for Umineko and his latest manga, Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni, it has disappointed me. It's strange how a majority of the women have more problems than the men. (Krauss, George and Rudolph have their share of problems.)

I really don't know about Shannon as we haven't seen any major 'heart-wrenching' back story and she seems fine with George, putting aside his yandere disposition. Don't feel like jumping on the bandwagon in Jessica's case.

Battler is probably the only normal one, as he's been absent from this bullshit for 6 years.

>> No.5231737

>>5231730
Yeah, and he hasn't shown any signs of going insane yet... Not meta- or game-battler. It probably won't be because of the whole PoV and etc, but Battler might be actually just as dysfunctional as the rest of the family. Who knows

>> No.5231740

>>5231730
During those six years away he must have missed the shipment of brain parasites from space

>> No.5231761

>>5231730

>absent from this bullshit

I would like to think he grew up in Hinamizawa during those 6 years of separation.

>> No.5231775

>>5231730
I HIGHLY doubt that Battler is in any way normal, it seems like that's the twist this whole thing is building up to. It's mostly from his perspective, so it isn't difficult to image that he's the one going crazy.

>> No.5231786

>>5231761
... Well, Battler hasn't shown any signs of trying to claw his neck out, so I don't think that he's caught the virus, thankfully.
>>5231775
Elaborate here, I'm not sure what you mean.

>> No.5231855

Rich people are crazy.

>> No.5231871

>>5231775
But Battler was the detective for the first few episodes, and the detective can't be the culprit... can he?

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5231883

The only sane character

>> No.5231895

>>5231775
Nah, Battler's just a steroid junkie.

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>>5231590
Being one of the only three living males in my family right now, I have to tell you that women are nuts. It isn't mental sickness, they're just insane. Unspoken grudges exist EVERYWHERE with women, especially in my own family. Given the fact that there are weapons on Rokkenjima and its a fucking isolated island, it isn't hard to believe some Japanese fucks would go ahead and start killing each other over something like, I dunno, fucking gold bars from a (already) dying old man.

What I'm trying to say here is, bitches are fucking crazy.

>> No.5231963

>>5231563
>Jessica - Game of pretend
>pretend
>PRETEND

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>>5231883
Best character.

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>>5231961
JESSICA TRIED TO WARN YOU, BATTLER

BUT YOU JUST WOULDN'T LISTEN

>> No.5231989

>>5231961
>one of the only three living males in my family

You're lucky to have just that. My entire neighbourhood was composed of females, I was practically raised as a girl. I was such a wuss that even my younger sister noticed it and took it upon herself to defend me from bullies.

I guess that's where that desire to be the little girl comes from.

>> No.5232008

>>5231970
Very nice portrait.

>> No.5232020

>>5231989
One of my uncles is gay and the other is a lazy asshole with a wife that doesn't want children. Everyone in my family gets their attitude from my grandmother, including myself. It sucks.

I was never a girly man. Actually, I was a loudmouth who thought it was hilarious to speak over other people. It took until like the 5th grade for someone to smack the shit out of me once and for all.

Oh, and you forgot to the sage on your post.

>> No.5232029

>>5231989
You sound a bit like Takanashi from Working!!.

>> No.5232055

I can't wait for Comiket. December was particularly mindfucking for the Umineko crowd, what with Erika's tits and Lambda's trollface and AuAu's ridiculousness and Schrodinger's penis. I hope that come August, it's even crazier.

>> No.5232085

>>5232055
>Schrodinger's penis
Zepar. Zepar has the dick. The Skittles-colored one doesn't. It's not a fucking mystery.

>> No.5232097

>>5232085
HA!

That's probably what Ryu wanted you to believe. Of course it'd be obvious if the black and light blue one had the penis.

>> No.5232130

>>5232097
So instead of 410 being the futa it's 45 because 410 looks like a dude and 45 doesn't?

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>>5231563

You'd be surprised how fucked up people actually are when you get to know them. Almost all of the relatives on my fathers side are upstanding and highly wealthy citizens on the surface but most of them do some really abnormal shit personality wise behind the scenes.

When I compare them Ryu got scary close to my family tree.

>> No.5232143

>>5232130
None of the siestas have a dick regardless of what doujins say.

And 410 is just a bit of a tomboy.

>> No.5232150

>>5232130
410 LOOKS LIKE A BRO NOT A MAN

YOU KEEP YOUR WHORE MOUTH SHUT

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>>5232130
But neither of them is futa. 556 was the futa.

>> No.5232170

>>5232130
>410
>futa

No.

>> No.5232178

>>5232143
> And 410 is just a bit of a tomboy.
I don't really think 410 has much of a tomboyishness to her. She's more just plain mischievous.

>> No.5232189

>>5231730
We've seen enough of her heart-wrenching backstory in bits and pieces. It probably won't be shoved in your face any more.

>> No.5232193

>>5232134

Share more about your relatives. What kinds of strange things do they do?

>> No.5232199

>>5232178
I guess it's just the hair or something.

>> No.5232201

The question isn't whether Zepar has a dick, or whether Furfur is. The question is whether both of them have a vagina, or both of them have a dick. Since Zepar and Furfur are the same demon.

>> No.5232203

>>5231563
it's just like real life

>> No.5232213

>>5232199
I don't really see how her hair makes her seem tomboyish, but whatever. She's my favorite of the Siestas either way.

>> No.5232220

>>5232189

You mean the parts where she's bullied around by Natsuhi or when she gave up on love at some point? Or Beatrice's 'rape' ranting in E4? I still find it odd how those conflict.

If the latter is true, and they do manage to get out of this alive, George is in for one hell of surprise on his wedding night.

>> No.5232221

>>5232203

This is right. Women are full of shit. Right now my parents( the female ones) are fighting and crying over completely pointless SHIT. Somebody said something mildly offensive and now people are crying and getting angry. Just get over it you dumb whores.

>> No.5232243

god tier:
410
mid tier:
45
low tier:
00
Dead tier:
556

>> No.5232270

>>5232213
Oh, I know.

>> No.5232285

>>5232221
Seriously, like I know there are women who do actually think and act like real human beings, I've met a few, but they are by and large not the type you would want to fuck or even make friends with, and they are a tiny minority. I begin to wonder if someday there will be a psychiatric definition of the female personality disorder, and maybe some therapy to help "alleviate" its symptoms. Perhaps someday I'll meet a woman who is actually a real person.

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>>5232243
No way, 00 > 45

>> No.5232304

>>5231590
It makes complete sense to crack under years of pressure. You obviously don't know how it is to be a women living in a household that treats women like shit, shut off in an island for months at a time.

I suspect my aunt is bat shit because of this.

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>>5232193

I can't go into exact details because some have been or are still running/involved in important companies and I don't want anything to go around. Anyway you have your typical stuff like backstabbing, ripping off of money and various manipulative things. A few family members have been delusional on a Eva/Natushi level but not to the extant of murder. One was so bad that he actually practically lived a second life, while not harming anyone directly it was bad enough that he made the news and was thrown in prison for a bit.

The one who made the root fortune that a lot of the relatives are successful from was some kind of genius who was known for doing quirky things. Father said he'd do things like sleep in the bathroom and hang tissue/toilet paper out to dry in order to somehow reuse them. Great Aunt said when they were teetering off some cliff in their car after a pileup when she got over the initial shock and looked to her side for him he was already out of the car and gone checking on the other cars.

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>>5232526

My father was notorious for having numerous lovers, claims to have possibly slept with over a thousand woman. Personality is highly similar to Rudolf. Mother is like Kyrie, basically an opposite to my father that evens him out and manages most of our money. Been doing a lot of the thinking for him as he's gotten older. She's come at my dad with a knife more than a few times and I wouldn't doubt she'd kill him if pushed enough. When I was growing up I thought of her as one of those anime super women but then I kind of realized it was a lot scarier than that. She doesn't show it too often but she builds up a real kind of slow simmer jealousy, only kind of see it when one of my dads ex lovers comes around stalking him.

Aside from my parents I distance myself from most of the family, both figuratively and literally as I live across the country from them. I haven't seen a lot of my relatives in over 15 years. I used to be in part of the will of my grandparents but various things have shown it's obvious my cousins have manipulated anything I would get towards themselves already. Anyway, probably not as interesting as you'd thought it be. Sorry I couldn't embellish it a little more.

>> No.5232585

>>5232526
>>5232534
Did you do steroids at any point in your life?

>> No.5232721

>>5232585
You mean 'suspicious drugs'?

>> No.5236593

>>5232534
Battler, is that you?

Seriously though - I know where you're coming from. My mother's family aren't mega-rich like yours apparently are, but they're quite well-off and are big social players where they live. A lot of them also have similar views about men being superior to women, not to the point of active oppression (that I know of), but the male children are so heavily favored over the female ones that it's just disgusting, and has given most of the women in the family major complexes and big personality problems due to having to live with it.

My mother was victim to this as well - she showed horrible and obvious favoritism of her youngest son, while her other children received substandard care and sometimes emotional and physical abuse (Rosa-level shit. I wish I were joking. I was forced to scrub bathroom fixtures with a toothbrush while she screamed at me because she thought I took something from my little bro's room.)

Rosa hits too close to home for me; makes it kind of hard to enjoy parts of Umineko.

>> No.5236621

>>5236593
>Rosa hits too close to home for me; makes it kind of hard to enjoy parts of Umineko.
I think you are not supposed to enjoy these parts anyway.

>> No.5236641

>>5236621
Sub out "any scene involving Rosa" for that.

The diary scenes in EP4 had me raging out "DON'T BELIEVE IT, MARIA! MOMMY IS AN EVIL WHORE!" long before Ange showed us how it really went down.

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