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5143354 No.5143354 [Reply] [Original]

Trolling Yukari is like throwing water into the ocean

>> No.5143365

It's like trying to blow up the sun with pop rocks and cola.

>> No.5143367
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5143367

That's why we love her, after all.

>> No.5143368

I'd throw my water into her ocean if you know what I mean.

>> No.5143373

It's like I'm wearing nothing at all

>> No.5143377
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5143377

Can i troll Yukari?

>> No.5143379

>>5143368
You trying to say she's that loose?

>> No.5143405

>>5143377

>critical strike! It's super effective!
>Nutbladder was defeated!

>> No.5143414
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5143414

Not as hard as you make it sound, really.

>> No.5143417

>>5143365
If you do it enough, it might just work.

>> No.5143418

>>5143377
Ew what the hell is that

It's eyes have stars in them

Must be an eldritch abomination

>> No.5143430

>>5143405

Hmm ...Tanuki...

in touhou 14 or 15.

>> No.5143502

>>5143379
Isn't she?

>> No.5143810

>>5143377
Is that a new Touhou?

>> No.5143825

>>5143810
Nope just chens future shiki.

>> No.5143850

>>5143430
>>5143825

Tanuki have huge testicles.

Does this one, too?

>> No.5143864

>>5143850
It's a girl so maybe when she is older she will get huge boobs?

>> No.5143973
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>> No.5144008

>>5143377

What is this adorable little hobbling horror?

>> No.5144067
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5144067

But Touhou already has a tanuki.

>> No.5144159

>>5144067
Fan game.

>> No.5144539
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5144539

nobody can troll me and i can troll anyone

>> No.5144547

>>5144067
Touhou already had a cat when rin came along too.

>> No.5144576

>>5144539
Go to hell, dude

>> No.5144583
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5144583

>>5143354

FUCKING TROLLED

>> No.5144594

>>5144008
Roku.Chen's future shikigami(and she will forget all about Ran and start looking after her own shiki)

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5144614

>>5144583

>> No.5144622

>>5144594
>and she will forget all about Ran

I doubt it she will probably just have a more adult(non-sexual) relationship with her.

>> No.5144675

>>5144622
Spell Cards

Conductor Sign "Tanuki Orchestra"

Change Sign "Cover Your Head, Watch Your Behind"

>> No.5144755

>>5144594
Just like how Ran forgets about Yukari, right? Except for Yukari, they're Shikigamis, which means that their power comes from their masters. Chen would not able to have a shikigami were it not for Ran being able to have a shikigami, and she has one only because Yukari is so powerful.

>> No.5144945

>>5144755
I wonder why Yukari is so strong in the first place.

>> No.5144984

>>5144945
We need more Yukari's-origins doujins.
Hell, Sakuya has tons.

I like to think she's an ancient magician like Byakuren. Of course, once you tamper with the boundary between human and youaki, there's no longer any way to tell.

>> No.5145009

>>5144984
Well maybe she is half human half youkai and speaking of origin doujin sanae needs some too.

>> No.5145010
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5145010

Yukari is tsundere for humans.

>> No.5145021

>>5145009
She has plenty, check the wiki.

>> No.5145024

>>5145010
Am i the only person who thinks Yukari is not all japanese.

>> No.5145037

>>5145024
She could be from anywhere. Even her name is an assumed one, since she probably chose it for its meaning, as Kourin said.

>> No.5145047
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5145047

>>5145009
Half human, half youkai, ALL SEXY

>> No.5145060

>>5145024
Neither are Remi,Meiling,Momiji(well this may be wrong)Flan,or Patchouli(who i think is french-japanese).

>> No.5145067

Yukari reminds me of Victorian era elegance.

>> No.5145097

>>5145060
What is Sakuya then since everyone in SDM is supposedly foreign?

>> No.5145102

>>5145067
Actually my thoughts, but without the prudishness.

Yukari is the perfect woman. Smart, sexy, and sophisticated.

>> No.5145106

>>5145102
and good at trolling.

>> No.5145107

>>5145097
Sakuya is maid elegance. There is a difference though they do seem rather similar.

>> No.5145111
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5145111

>>5144984

Yukari is a plain gap dwelling youkai. Can't recall the Japanese name, but her kind traditionally live between floorboards, in cracks in rocks, etc. Anywhere there is a gap.

Her being overpowered in Touhou stems only partially from her being a particular species of youkai, but mostly from her ability, with the power of manipulating "boundaries" being quite poorly defined and thus possible to apply to anything.

Compare it to how Suika as an oni has the racial attributes of monstrous strength and bottomless alcohol tolerance, but as a character has the ability of manipulating density.

>> No.5145113

This thread stinks /a/.

>> No.5145116

>>5145097
Koakuma is the only full japanese person in SDM mansion and sakuya is something(maybe lunarian?)

>> No.5145118
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5145118

>>5145102

She can probably make you cum just by talking to you because of DAT VOICE.

>> No.5145121
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5145121

>>5145111

>just a typical gap-dwelling youkai

No, that's this bitch.

>> No.5145124
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5145124

>>5145102
She also has that whimsical, witty, playful air about her.

>> No.5145129

>>5145121
Gaap needs some clothes.

>> No.5145135

>>5145116
I doubt that koakuma is even japanese.

>> No.5145148

>>5145102

She probably doesn't actually have sex, though. I have the idea of Yukari's playfulness coming out in really interesting ways in that she is possibly the ultimate cocktease. You never get her, she's so elegant that it makes you not care.

>> No.5145151
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5145151

"He told me I was a young, beautiful lady~♥"

>> No.5145163
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5145163

>>5145135

Koakuma is a special import commodity, straight from the bottommost circle of abrahamitic hell.

>> No.5145169

>>5145148
I would just love to have a conversation with her.

>> No.5145172
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5145172

>>5143377
Cute Roku

>> No.5145178

Oh, she's definitely not young. Not by a longshot. Doesn't mean that she isn't attractive, though.

I would say that she's the hot mom type, but Ran is more motherly than Yukari.

>> No.5145179
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>>5145124
Yep. That's why I like her. She is basically the 3 faces of Eve all wrapped up in one awesome body. She can be the playful yet innocent and awkward child if she wanted, the motherly companion, and the wise woman.

>> No.5145183

>>5143377
I'm dying from how fucking cute this is.

>>5143864
Tanuki-girls almost always have huge boobs. So good times.

>> No.5145187

>>5145163

Exactly why Patchy decided that she needed a cute demon library assistant I'll never know. Maybe she gets lonely with just books to keep her company?

>> No.5145202
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5145202

>>5145163
She comes in a pack

>> No.5145203

>>5145187
Patchi has a fetish, and all she really reads are fanfics. That's why she summoned Koakuma.

>> No.5145227

>>5143377
We need a Mugen for her but sadly she only has 2 spellcards.....;_;

>> No.5145243

>>5145203

Fetish for what? You make it sound like Patchy's a closet dominatrix.

>>5143377

So...any chance of a tanuki making it into the next game?

>> No.5145267

>>5145243
>So...any chance of a tanuki making it into the next game?

I hope not it would make Roku look like another 2p

>> No.5145299
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5145299

>>5145187

Variety and plenty to choose from. Every grimoire has something on summoning succubi. Even the Necronomicon, but you don't want to summon those.

Likely Patchy called forth Koakuma simply because she was best suited allround for every task and situation thought likely at the time.

>> No.5145320

>>5145299

So...Patchy wanted a succubus slave.

Yeah, she's a closet dominatrix.

>> No.5145329

>>5145299
Your Probably right but i sometimes wonder what koakuma's personality is i see her as responsible but quite sad that many people don't acknowledge her as being part of the mansion(like people not drawing her in the SDM portraits and such).

>> No.5145333
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5145333

Of course, it should be noted that it is far from clear what sort of work Koakuma does in the library (librarian? Maid? Groundskeeper? Runs a BBQ stand?), or whether it was even Patchy who summoned her.

Anyways, back to Mayohiga.
It's where I oughta be.
Layin' down them danmaku.
With ol' Nineball's company.
A sparrow on me left
An' a faerie on me right.
An' a fistful precious spellcards fer me little Armalite.

>> No.5145347

>>5145320

Knew I shouldn't have posted that particular pic with that statement...

>> No.5145361

>>5143377
I wonder why people think Roku is cute but seem to dislike Mitori?

>> No.5145370

>>5145329

Koakuma's supposed to be like Tewi, according to what canon of her exists.

Useless demon, only good for sex appeal?

>>5145333

I'm guessing she's Patchy's general servant. Gets books, puts them back, and other things involving the maintenance of the library that isn't already done by Sakuya during her cleaning rounds. Also, seeing as she's...well, a demon, she's also probably there to satisfy Patchy's other physical needs.

>> No.5145378

>>5145347

Actually, that pic makes it look like that Koakuma's the dominant one in the relationship.

>> No.5145380
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5145380

Yukari eying up her dinner

>> No.5145383

It's like trying to punch a cloud in the dick.

>> No.5145410

>>5145380

She looks almost sad there. You sure it's a dinner?

>> No.5145418

>>5145380
What the hell am I looking at? Usually tits against glass pictures are supposed to be sexy but this is just....

>> No.5145420

>>5145410
Doesn't look like she's sad to me.

But I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck she's even leaning on.

>> No.5145424

>>5145410
She looks like a kid looking at puppies in a pet shop.

Yukari wants another pet.

>> No.5145435

>>5145361
Mitori is not cute.

>> No.5145440

>>5145420
Its either a car windshield or one of those quarter circle glass displays like you see in the meat section of grocery stores.

>> No.5145455

>>5145424

Are we the pets?

>> No.5145458
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5145458

>>5145410

She's a maneater. Perhaps she is trying to spice up dinner.
Perhaps she turned some unlucky outsider into a tarantula for her to consume V-style.

>> No.5145459

>>5145424
this time she wants a dog.

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5145465

>>5145410
>>5145418
>>5145420
>>5145424
>>5145440
Looks like she's on a train.

>> No.5145471

>>5145465
It looks like you're blind.

>> No.5145489

>>5144984

You know how it's supposed that any being can become a youkai if it lives for an abnormally long time? Well, I personally think that Yukari was, like what you think, a human magician who became extremely skilled in boundary-related magic. She lived to a long enough age to become a youkai, and when she was reincarnated as a youkai, her powers improved immensely. Since this was a very long time ago, she's had centuries to hone and train her abilities, eventually becoming as powerful as she is today.

>> No.5145497

>>5143377
I wonder what meme's Roka will start.

>> No.5145519

>>5145489

I thought she's Maribel's other half or something?

>> No.5145526

>>5145519
Maybe or they could be related

>> No.5145538
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5145538

Fun fact: Ran Yakumo's original name was not Ran. Ran is just a name Yukari~n gave her.

>> No.5145565

>>5145538
They were animals first so she had to name them.

>> No.5145580
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5145580

>>5145538

Yakumo Ran is Tamamo no Mae, who is Omachi the demon king, who is Machijyoten, who is the white fox of Suwa, who is Yakumo Ran.

>> No.5145583

>>5145580
Who is also Adolf Hitler.
According to some people at least.

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5145586

>>5145580
Or she's just Ran.

>> No.5145603

>>5145583

>ran is Hitler

Hey! Good thing we're talking about Mein Kampf on /lit/. I'll re-read it and see if any mention of Yukari or Chen comes up.

>> No.5145618
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5145618

>>5145459

She already has a dog. Ran's a fox. That's close enough to a dog.


Unless she wants a Momiji.

>> No.5145619

>>5143377
What do regular tanuki look like?

>> No.5145631
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>>5145619

They're raccoon dogs.

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>>5145489
Yukari is a concept oriented youkai, kinda like Rumia. People make superstitions, those beliefs create a faux reality, and so creatures are born into it. Their existence is entirely subjective, and Gensokyo was created as a final refuge for them as the world advanced with science and forgot the fears. They are just the remains of abandoned lore, and Gensokyo is a little bubble world of distorted consensus which acknowledges them.

>> No.5145643

>>5145631
She is cute as an animal too.

>> No.5145647

>>5145618
Another canine is way better than a monkey.

>> No.5145653

>>5145471
Looks like you have no imagination.

>> No.5145662

>>5145465
With the background, I could maybe see a train being possible.

>> No.5145666

>>5145640
All we know about Yukari and Rumia is that they specialize in a certain function of magic to the point that they are quite good with it (Yukari obviously moreso than Rumia).

So while that is possible, it's also possible that both were just run of the mill youkai like Meiling who decided to specialize in a specific area (instead of being totally rounded like Meiling is).

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5145671

>>5145647

Maybe she wants a bird?

>> No.5145696

>>5145653
I'm not on enough drugs to be seeing anything that resembles a train in that picture.

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5145708

>>5145696
We have someone that can fix that....

>> No.5145721
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>>5145666
Meiling is a human turned youkai who didn't end up as a magician. While that is also possible for the others, I just don't see it. Their powers, their essence, is just too abstract. I know it sounds weird, but an umbrella becoming a youkai makes a lot more sense than a human becoming one. Thus I believe that lore of things lurking in the dark spaces between things is much more likely than a human learning to control something very not human.

>> No.5145724

>>5145666
But why did youkai decide to take the forms of breathtakingly beautiful women?

>> No.5145739

>>5145721
>Meiling is a human turned youkai who didn't end up as a magician.
I don't see how that's possible. Every other ex-human youkai we've seen got there through studying magic.

>> No.5145747

>>5145708
Wouldn't you?
Wouldn't we all?

>>5145721
Humans are just animals like anything else. Part of nature. Something dark and disgusting in their own right. Just because it's "us" doesn't mean there's no potential.

But I do get what you're saying, and you're entitled to your own Gensokyo.

>> No.5145749

>>5145724
They didn't, ZUN just draws them that way.
Well, his fans at least.

>> No.5145751

>>5145724
Because ZUN followed the fine japanese tradition of making stupid cute pictures out of fucking anything.

>>5145739
I think Meiling was through chi manipulation, experience, and time.

>> No.5145754

meiling studied martial arts and can control the flow of chi.

>> No.5145773

>>5145747
I'm all for humans becoming youkai, I just need to see a good reason for it.

>> No.5145789

>>5145754
I thought meiling was a dragon yokai because her name is Hong.

>> No.5145790
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5145790

>>5145721

Meiling is a fucking Chinese rainbow dragon. How dare you call her human.

>> No.5145802

>>5145789

She's like Nue in the fact that her name is also her species...or maybe she has no real first name and is just called "Meiling," with "Hong" being a qualifier.

So, is she Hong Meiling, or is she a Hong named Meiling?

>> No.5145804
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5145804

>>5145789
Only room for 1 dragon in Gensokyo. Although the dragon statue in the Human Village does bring up some questions.

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5145805

>>5145789
"Hong" means "Scarlet" the way it is written.

>>5145790
Hahahaha, that would be cool, but no.

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5145807

>>5145721

From her appearance and abilities, Meiling is a lesser or mid-level demon of the Chinese underworld, subordinate of Oxhead and Horseface.

In her natural environment, she would be something of a combination of a bouncer and a clerk.

>> No.5145814

>>5145802
Maybe she is a Hong like human named Meiling, who chose the name out of a sense of honor?

>> No.5145821

>>5145804

Meiling was there before Tenshi...and Tenshi's an angel-thing, anyway.

>> No.5145826
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>>5145814

FUCK YOU SHE'S A DRAGON

>> No.5145830

>>5145804
Tenshi's a Celestial, not a Dragon.
Dragons are above Celestials, and Iku was their messenger.

>> No.5145836

>>5145821
Dragon of Heaven, Dragon of Earth.

Besides, who is to say that Tenshi wasn't there before Meiling? I mean Meiling is less than 200 years old isn't she? Tenshi could have just been hanging out but still in Gensokyo.

>> No.5145840

>>5145724
Easy on the eyes? More approachable? Yukari could walk up, tell me she's a youkai and that she's going to eat me and I would just stand there entranced by her beauty.

>> No.5145843

>>5145830
I thus revoke my >>5145836

>> No.5145849

>>5145804
That statue is a statue of the dragon god of Gensokyo. All in Gensokyo worship the dragon.

There is room for only on dragon in Gensokyo, and if it's Meiling then she's pretty fucking humble about it.

>> No.5145857
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5145857

Fools.
There is but one dragon in Gensokoyo.

>> No.5145868

>>5145849
I for one eagerly await the arrival of our dragon loli overlord and the end of times.

>> No.5145875

>>5145857
I don't quite get that picture. I see a Yukari and (2?) Shinki.

>> No.5145891

>>5145868

What exactly is the dragon loli supposed to look like?

>> No.5145897

>>5145875
That picture is ancient, we've discussed it time and again.

The only obvious characters are Yukari, Tewi, the first Hakurei miko and Shinki.
The others are presumably Lord Tenma, some ghost, and some beast youkai.

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5145902

Getting a tad off topic aren't we

I like Yukari the most because she has that air of grace and playfulness while at the same time commanding your respect and admiration.

>> No.5145905

>>5145891
I would guess short with stubby arms and legs, ill proportioned face, silly clothes, and ridiculous colors until someone makes better fan art from ZUN's creation.

>> No.5145913

>>5145905

DRAW IT.

>> No.5145914

>>5145891
see >>5145857.
The dragon is no loli, boy.

>> No.5145916

>>5145914
Trap then

>> No.5145917

>>5145914

That's the true form of the Dragon. It can take the form of a loli, like everything else.

>> No.5145930

>>5145917
True. But why would it?
I, for one, think the "oh shit it's the dragon" factor would be all the greater if it showed up in dragon form.

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5145939

Here is your dragon.

>> No.5145944

Putting a Dragon in the games wouldn't make much sense.
It's more a force of nature than a regular Touhou, and that's saying something.

>> No.5145952

>>5145939
Useless cunt doesn't do ANYTHING.
I hope Deathwing kills her.

>> No.5145956

>>5145789
I thought the Chinese for "dragon" was "loong".

>> No.5145957
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5145957

>>5145897

Danbooru claims the beast youkai to be Shingyoku, but I'm having trouble seeing this...

>> No.5145964

>>5145944

The Dragon is a corporeal being and hasn't been seen in years. It could just show up to challenge Reimu about the fact that she isn't doing her job with maintaining the border/resolving the youkai incidents properly/whatever...but no matter how powerful it is, it's bound by the spellcard rules and must fight her on equal terms as a loli.

>> No.5145973

>>5145957
Maybe a heavily stylized version...maybe...

>> No.5145983

>>5145964
I know it wouldn't be in the spirit of Touhou, but I'd love to see a final game in which everyone fought with lethal power.

>> No.5145995
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5145995

>>5145983

Happened in every game before EoSD and the current Reimu implemented the Spellcard rules for resolving disputes.

Oh, and here's Hong Meiling as a fucking dragon...I think. It was tagged as such, and the hair matches, but Meiling doesn't wear blue.

>> No.5146002

>>5145964
I could see ZUN doing that, but I still don't like it. That would mean the Dragon would have to lose, and even if it's just at a pretend-battle it would undermine the authority it has.

>>5145983
Wouldn't be much of a game then.

>> No.5146003

>>5145964
There's no Gensokyo-wide enchantment or whatever that makes people use the spellcard system; it's more of a mutual agreement.

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>>5145973

Granted, I can't make out if those cuffs are supposed to be wrists or ankles.

In which case, if it is an original character and not Shingyoku, she's wearing a Jomon headdress.

>>5145964

Maybe, maybe not. Think it's unlikely we'll see the dragons roaming openly in the games.
Basically Touhou dragons only appear to cause upheavals beyond biblical proportions - no more and no less. So yes, dragons are physical creatures, but they still play in an entirely different league.

However they either have a very different idea of time compared to humans, or are just plain absentminded since the last time their herald walked the earth nothing unusual happened.

>> No.5146015

>>5146002

Reimu's fighting for her honor and the Dragon is testing whether or not the spellcard rule is actually effective. The fact that Reimu's plot armor makes her the winner by default could be handwaved in that the Dragon threw the fight and just wanted to see if she was truly powerful enough to hold the border.

>> No.5146019

>>5146002
Nonsense. You could beat the dragon gameplay-wise, but it could be shown that you lose through dialouge, or you "win" after dealing X damage and the dragon releases unavoidable danmaku or something.
It could work.

>> No.5146029

>>5146003

I think it's more than just a mutual agreement. Outsiders such as the denizens of the Moriya shrine who were to have arrived very recently still abide by them. Either they're informed of the challenge ahead of time or the rule is actually an unwritten law of combat that everyone has to follow, disregarding whether or not they like it.

>> No.5146034

>>5145956
Pronounced somewhat like that, yes. And the symbol for the word is on Meiling's hat, which is clearly a different symbol from "Hong" which, again, means scarlet in Japanese and red in Chinese.

>> No.5146043

>>5146029
That, my friend, is a plot hole.
But really, regardless of it's nature, the dragon probably trancends it. We're talking about the being that created Gensokyo here.

>> No.5146076

>>5146043
Was present at the creation of the border.
Although I'm sure the dragon was instrumental in sealing off Gensokyo and making it what it is, I'm not sure what its role was exactly.

Gensokyo was contiguous with the outside world before it was sealed off.

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Roka bump

>> No.5146088

>>5146029
Moriya bitches were in Gensokyo for a bit before Reimu fought them, so its believable that they learned about danmaku from the youkai who "greeted" them before worshiping started.

I don't think its unreasonable to believe that Kanako and Suwako took a little tour of Gensokyo before moving.

>> No.5146092

>>5146043

That's why it would be seen as a test for the Hakurei shrine maiden. The dragon would fight her on equal terms to determine whether or not she is actually capable of keeping the eternal peace that was promised at the creation of the border.

Kind of raises a problem if the Dragon ends up fighting Marisa or 3rd Wheel (most likely Sanae), but even then it could be testing the integrity of each of Gensokyo's 'guardians': Reimu as the keeper of the border, Marisa as a guardian of the humans, and Sanae as an outsider with promise as a youkai exterminator.

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>>5146076

May just be kotodama. Dragon says "let there be Gensokyo", and behold, there was Gensokyo.

>> No.5146101

>>5146076
Remember that one fan made Touhou game in which Gensokyo was all a dream created by a normal human Marisa? I'd buy that Gensokyo's faux reality is reinforced by using the dreams of a dragon as an easy power source.

>> No.5146104

>>5146029
It's just a silly artifact of trying to realize shooting game mechanics in canon. Having a cool situation trumps having it make any sense at all, so like when you unseal Byakuren after 1000 years and she has 6 spellcards ready to go, you're just not supposed to think about it.

>> No.5146126

>>5146076

A shortened and colloquial version of the Dragon at the creation of the Hakurei border:

When the Border was created, the Dragon was there, and it was PISSED. It was going to destroy everything until the most ancient Youkai (the list probably included the original Hakurei, Yukari, and maybe even Tewi) promised it that there would be peace and the area would be safe from interference. Then it left, and the apocalypse of Gensokyo was averted.

Now would actually be a perfect time for the Dragon to return and challenge the promise, seeing as...well, recently, the Moriya shrine gods (well, just Kanako) threatened to destroy the border, and Okuu almost burned the fucking world with NUCLEAR HELL RAVEN POWER!

Not sure where UFO's events fit in line, but Byakuren could have inadvertently let out purely malicious youkai by mistake in her efforts to create a good coexistence. If she had been left to run around, there would be too many problems to deal with and the Dragon would come back and fuck shit up.

>> No.5146135

>>5146104

Her servants were running around and trying to free her the entire time, news must have reached them that, in the likely event that Byakuren would have to fight someone, she would need to know how to defend herself.

>> No.5146145

>>5146126
>the Moriya shrine gods (well, just Kanako) threatened to destroy the border
>When the Border was created, the Dragon was there, and it was PISSED.
What?

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5146150

Raaaaan~, I need a change~

>> No.5146152

>>5146135
It's implied she had no contact with anyone before the unsealing, and the first person she meets is the player. I don't see how they'd teach her anything let alone that fast.

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>>5146150

What? AGAIN?!

>> No.5146166

>>5146150
I do NOT approve of this image. It is an eyesore.

>> No.5146168

Maybe there's an implied hidden scene every time that happens, where Reimu/etc goes WHOA hey hold your horses there ma'am, round these parts we don't take kindly to dangerous battles. Read this contract and initial each item to indicate that you understand and agree to abide by the spellcard rules because, if you break them, a purple lady will erase you from time. Feel free to leaf through this full color brochure of other signatories' spellcards for inspiration.

>> No.5146175

>>5146145

The story behind MoF is that Kanako threatened to put the Hakurei shrine out of business. She didn't know it held the border in place, all she knew is that Reimu was (and still is) a terrible miko.

>The last time the dragon appeared in Gensokyo was when the Great Hakurei Barrier was created.

>The sky was rent with constant thunder, the land was engulfed in a flood that threatened to submerge it, and for an instant, the skies were completely dark.

Does that seem like a happy Dragon to you?

>>5146152

Magic.

>> No.5146178

>>5146126
I have no idea why, but this just makes me want to see the dragon even more.

Fuck shit up.
Yeah, that's probably it.

>> No.5146198

>>5146152
I asked ZUN about this one time. Here is how it went down.

Me: Hey ZUN, what the hell is up with Byakuren knowing the spellcard rules despite being sealed away from 1000 years?

ZUN: Who are you? How did you get in my house?

Me: Just answer the question. Does does youkai jesus know danmaku?

ZUN: *sips his beer* Its a fucking game. Stop reading into it so much.

Me: Yeah, but-

ZUN: Get out of my house.

>> No.5146220

>>5146175
>She didn't know it held the border in place
For good reason.
It doesn't.

As for the dragon...eh.

>> No.5146224

>>5146175

Yukari: "Come one, come all! Come to the magical land of Gensokyo where you can live without persecution from humans!"

Dragon: "Hey can I come too?"

Yukari: "Umm...no?"

Dragon: "Ok. I'm just going to destroy it then."

Yukari: "Fuuuuuuuuuuuck."

>> No.5146265

>>5146220

>Reimu is deeply troubled by this state of affairs, as she knows the shrine can't be allowed to close down due to the role it plays in watching over the Great Hakurei Border.

Really now?

>> No.5146275

>>5146224
So basically this thread has gone from "Trolling Yukari is like throwing water into the ocean" to "The dragon can troll Yukari all day long because she's a fucking pro".

What a tweest

>> No.5146284

>>5146265
Yes, really.
Shrine shutting down = destruction of barrier? I don't buy it.

>> No.5146296

>>5146265
Hakurei Shrine is the gateway through the Border between Gensokyo and the outside world. That's its role. She is basically a warden. Yukari still controls the Border and mends it.

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>>5146150
>>5146166
I think Chen brand diapers are adorable, especially on a refined lady such as Yukari. When you think about how powerful and seemingly independent she is, it's sweet to imagine her wanting to be pampered by Ran and treated like a child that just wants loved. Maybe Chen even changes her from time to time to build morale, who knows.

Sadly, there are no more Yukari diaper pictures, and no Yakumo diaper fanfics or doujins.

>> No.5146319

>>5146302
Adults in diapers is a sick and messy fetish and Freud would have a field day with it.

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>>5146284

The shrine has been razed, swallowed up by the ground or blown sky high several times. The sanctity of the shrine isn't exactly undisturbed.

It doesn't seem like the shrine itself physically has anything to do with maintaining the boundary. More likely the area where the shrine is located is some sort of convergence point where the boundary is affected differently from other places.

>> No.5146358

>>5146326
Or maybe if the shrine suffers a spiritual assault, the border might be dissolved?

>> No.5146391

>>5146358
Spiritual as in it loses faith or something?
I can't imagine it has much anyway. No one even knows what god lives there, much less worships it.

>> No.5146394

>>5146326

There's the shrine and the Shrine. The shrine is more or less Reimu's house. It's been destroyed multiple times. The Shrine is a more metaphysical thing. If Reimu closed down the Shrine, that would mean all the energy focused in that area would be dispersed. That would either leave a huge hole in the border, destroy it altogether, or just leave people trapped in Gensokyo no way of getting out. It's never really explained what would happen if the Shrine's energies were to go away, but I'm assuming it means that the Border's integrity gets so bad that not even Yukari would be able to fix the gaping hole left by its disappearance.

Oh, and I just realized that the continuity (there actually is one now) has pretty much created a real antagonist with Moriya Shrine. They were trying to force Reimu to close the Shrine, and they were also responsible for giving nuclear power to a stupid bird just so they could bring Gensokyo out of the Feudal age.

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>>5146319
Yes. Yes he would.

>>5146326
Also possible that some of the border's protection comes from the Hakurei bloodline itself.

Although that would be pretty stupid.

>> No.5146416

>>5146394
Everyone in Gensokyo does stuff entirely for kicks. I don't think Touhou will ever get an antagonist.

>> No.5146420

>>5146394
The hell did you hear/read all this? Citation very, very needed.
Except the Moriya bit. At least Sanae is ok.

>> No.5146457

>>5146416
But didn't Mima say she hated the hakurei's?

>> No.5146466

>>5146420

>I'm assuming

MoF implies something bad happens if the Shrine gets shut down for good, although it's never clear what that is. I just took a guess at it. You're free to think that the Shrine shutting down would result in no more tea parties and that all the Youkai would then go on a rampage because of that, but that just sounds silly.

>> No.5146488

>>5146466
Its Touhou. Its all silly.

>> No.5146492

>>5146416

An antagonist doesn't have to be evil, they just have to do shit that disagrees with the actions of the protagonist. Seeing as how the Moriya shrine has been fucking shit up for a decent amount of time, whether or not they intended to do it really doesn't matter. Even Sanae's had it, going against Suwako and her idea of creating a giant mech. While everything worked out in the end with the thing being the pinnacle of Kappa technology and an inspiration, it still managed to scare a decent amount of people.

>> No.5146742

I'm an Aries Dragon.

Does that make me special in Gensokyo?

>> No.5146790

>>5146742
I dunno. You may taste better to youkai or somethin'

>> No.5148673
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BUMP with Roku

>> No.5148809

>>5148673
Roku kinda looks like Roka from crossdays.

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People don't like it because of the source but Tohnifun's World (part of the Yukari vs Ran series) has a interesting interpretation of how Yukari came to be.

>> No.5148994
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lol Chado and all that.

>> No.5148997
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but not everything he writes is DBZ style action and FUCK YEAR MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER.

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just most of it. ;_;

>> No.5149001
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wow, I may get the full run...

>> No.5149002
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5149002

and done.

>> No.5149004

>>5149002
There's something very off about that anatomy.

>> No.5149015

>>5149004
Hips too big?

>> No.5149042

Just a different perspective screwing with anon's mind.
You're looking up from her feet at an angle.

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can mary troll yukari?

>> No.5149046

>>5149044
Can a person really troll herself?

>> No.5149055
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5149055

Can the witch of miracles troll Yukari?

>> No.5149058

>>5149044
Yukari trolls mary by making renko grow a penis

>> No.5149059

>>5149046
sure she can.
All she has to do is make a Yukari exactly like Yukari and then troll Yukari

>> No.5149069

>>5145826
in fact,dragon is not very powerful in chinese monster
some spices of them are god's food

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>>5149044
Cute people can't troll.

>> No.5149507

>>5149055
The things Bern cannot troll are next to none.

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