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Too obvious. Skip the dumb question about writing, don't mention "Rosetta Stoned," and drop the trip if you want to be believable next time.

1.Classes
2.Hirigana is the basics. Katakana is for foreign words and onomatopoeia . Kanjii are just symbols to make it easier to read.
3.>my face when Rosetta stone teaches you te form before masu form

>>5137495

If you said that because you think i was trolling there, i wasn't.

>>5137504
>Rosetta Stone teaches -te form before -masu form.
I find this unbelievably funny.

>>5137495
No regular troll would post a picture of Mexican oh wait..now I see what you did there

>>5137504

>Kanjii are just symbols to make it easier to read.

Well i'm having the hardest time with those. As i said, i want to take classes but i can't right now since i have a pretty tight schedule.

Just be happy that I have this copypasta

Well, start by going to http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar and read through everything there and take notes. It will also tell you about the kana, which you should be able to learn within a few hours. The grammar part isn't the most exciting thing you can do, but it will be extremely helpful, and going through that guide while taking notes is probably the fastest way to get it down and stop feeling like a complete retard whenever you try reading something in Japanese.

Secondly, go to http://kanji.gotdns.com/ and download Anki. Make it your goal to get through all the kanji there, and memorize them with the help of Anki. Time-consuming, but you can do it at your own pace, and when you have mastered the important ones, the language will suddenly be easy. You won't need much more vocabulary after this, other than the stuff you'll just absorb automatically since you have kanji to associate them with, so you mainly just need to get used to the language at this point. So..

Thirdly, read. I think the ideal thing is to find an untranslated VN and use AGTH, which allows you to copy and paste anything you don't understand into a dictionary (I use JWPce as my dictionary, not really sure if it's the best one, but it works). Another option if you're not completely comfortable with the kanji are manga targeted at younger demographics, as they will usually have furigana. If you are completely comfortable with the kanji, you can just read whatever you want, you don't need suggestions from me anymore at that point.

Those steps don't have to be followed strictly, but prioritizing them in that order will probably be most effective.

>>5137586

Great! Saved, saved and thanks a lot!

>>5137586
Happy to see those copy pasta floating around.

>>5137586
Cool story bro

Didn't we have the same thread ~40 hours ago?

>>5137504
>>5137528
any reason masu form should be taught first?
I mean, just the infinitive/casual form should certainly be learned first, but why would masu be important? Although its vital for actually understanding japanese, new students won't be seeing real japanese for a while anyway, and the te and casual forms give a much better intuitive understanding of how the language works.

>>5138438
I think most classes teach it first because you're supposed to use polite form in a classroom situation. It is pretty backwards though. Even in my second year Japanese class a lot of people had to consciously go through the process of polite form->plain form->whatever form they were trying to conjugate to. While that was at least partially because they were stupid I think they probably wouldn't have had that problem if plain form was taught first.